The Boox Go 10.3 Part 1: First Impressions

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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024

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  • @memoryhero
    @memoryhero 4 месяца назад +9

    You're a hero for all your commentary, analysis, and showcase.

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад

      I really appreciate that, thank you.

  • @Redukteur
    @Redukteur 4 месяца назад +6

    Wow, was anticipating your review very much! So excited to see how all the Boox marketing promises hold up in real life use.
    And ... subscribed! 😀

  • @benny742
    @benny742 4 месяца назад +4

    Very detailed, well presented insight. Looking forward to your upcoming review :) Thanks very much

  • @VladimirKostek
    @VladimirKostek 4 месяца назад +7

    Great Review Jeff, they are certainly coming for reMarkable and I can see them selling a lot of these. Just a tip for your top down shots I would add a another front lighting source to get rid of some of those dark shadows.

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, I'm really struggling with that. Let me play with a second light for the Visual Tour video. Good tip!

    • @VladimirKostek
      @VladimirKostek 4 месяца назад +1

      @jeffreymoss I find it's helpful to shoot near a window for those, if I shoot top down at night then I use 3 light sources. It's still not perfect and I'm trying to tweak it but def helps

  • @mzmel1
    @mzmel1 4 месяца назад +7

    This is an absolutely fantastic comparison video. I’m considering the Go and I haven’t seen another first look that was even remotely as helpful as this. One question: if you have a Scribe how would you compare the writing feel of the Go versus the Scribe. That’s the only thing that’s holding me back now

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад +3

      I do have the Scribe, so I pulled it out and compared the two. Both have similar screens, but I did feel like the pen tip was a bit more connected with the Go when I looked at my writing at an angle. Both make similar sounds when writing, but the Go has a slightly deeper, more bass sound, although it is a subtle difference.

    • @mzmel1
      @mzmel1 4 месяца назад

      @@jeffreymoss Thanks ❤️

  • @rackhamro
    @rackhamro 4 месяца назад +4

    Great, detailed and clear as usual ! Thank you

  • @julieparadise9694
    @julieparadise9694 4 месяца назад +2

    Thanks for your video; again and as always highly informative, well balanced without being shy about giving your personal opinion still. I really appreciate that!
    As for the question whether Remarkable should feel pressed: I always loved the slimness and beauty of the RM2 design, it is just so nice to write on that thing, but since I am heavily invested in the Boox universe (having a Poke5, a Nova Air 2, a Note Air 3 C, an old Max2, and a TabX), this for me is the perfect device. It is just as beautiful as the RM2, yet even slimmer (and without the anti-glide bumps on the RM2 that annoyed me, although I see what they are intended for), it also has the directness of the lines under my pen tip, but as a huge advantage it synchs my notes and reading progress with all my other devices.
    I was thinking about getting a RM3 if that was ever going to be a thing, but now the Go 10.3 makes even more sense to me, so I will probably continue for some years to use the Supernote platform for my leisure reading of fiction and private journaling, and my Boox devices for professional reading as a (copy) editor where I need to make many notes (often in split view mode) and annotations to/note on primarily PDFs.

  • @em4me-Dan
    @em4me-Dan 4 месяца назад +4

    🙋‍♂Hi Jeffrey! Always a pleasure watching your videos. Truly love the look of this device. I only have one comment in this first impression is that I find it really easy to read text even when you might have had some issues. Being a bit older and with poor eyesight myself, I found the text really easy to read while watching this video. Looking forward to your visual tour and full review! Kudos from NYC.🗽

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад +2

      Yeah I'm going to look deeper into that. The Kobo app is really strange, in that the text seems limited in terms of how big it can be. I compared the app settings between the Go and the Note Air 3 C, and I couldn't find any meaningful difference, yet the Go version seemed more limited in that regard. Strange. Also, I was playing around with the eink settings, reading the descriptions that are quite small. I realized then that one of the settings was hard to read, not because of it's size, but because there was ghosting from the prior text. So that might be another element I'll need to consider. A refresh of the screen might have helped me in one or two situations.

    • @SteamyPMcGee
      @SteamyPMcGee 4 месяца назад

      The system font can be increased in the settings > system display settings. I increased for me too.

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад +1

      @@SteamyPMcGee Actually, my issue went away without doing anything, so I think it was a bug either on Boox or Kobo. I knew something was strange because I didn't have the same issue on the NA3C.

  • @MarcelloBranca
    @MarcelloBranca 4 месяца назад +2

    nice, i didnt even know there was a device like this, recently released by boox, thx alot man

  • @Owenwister
    @Owenwister 4 месяца назад

    Excellent first look and I am looking forward to the more detailed look later. At this point the lack of the front light is not a big concern because for night time reading I use a smaller device. The one thing I do like about Boot is they try to keep things as simple as possible. I have used other devices that were so packed with features as to be unusable by ordinary users like myself. Thanks for the great reviews and I look forward to the upcoming videos.

  • @karlmunford7000
    @karlmunford7000 4 месяца назад +5

    Its a brilliant device but as for it competing with ReMarkable... I think most ReMarkable users who try it will balk at the complexity of the Boox and return to the simplicity of the ReMarkable. The ReMarkable really must be the closest thing to a physical notebook on the market today, and in many cases, thats all some want.

    • @migueltoledo1884
      @migueltoledo1884 4 месяца назад

      While I don't personally care for the Android Apps capability, I do admit that the BOOX GO 10.3 is interesting. I however, would prefer a device that is thinner or lighter wherever possible - as I already carry my phone and sometimes my laptop around. To that end, the Go 10.3' or the Supernote Nomad is a viable alternative. Also what make me strike out the Kindle Scribe completely from consideration - it's almost as heavy as my 11" iPad.

    • @karlmunford7000
      @karlmunford7000 4 месяца назад

      ​@@migueltoledo1884 I study scripture allot and find my Supernote handles my notes far better than my Boox device, but by far the biggest pro is the calm mood associated with using e-ink rather than the powerhouse computers are... its just less stressful.

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад +2

      I tend to agree. That's why I was surprised that Boox didn't put more of their icons away in the notes app to give it a simpler, cleaner look. Boox gives the option to remove labels from the buttons, and I found that when you do that it looks a lot better. So that might have been a missed opportunity on Boox's part, but I can understand why they made the decision to have the labels there in the first place for people new to the system. It's going to be very interesting to see how the market reacts.

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад +1

      I'm in the same place for my use case, in that I do think the Supernote is the better device for my notetaking. I'll be talking about that in the review video. The Go is excellent thus far, but the Supernote has just the right features for easy notebook switching, and general flow. Just a more specialized tool for how I use it. Boox does a great job adding features, but they don't have some of the conveniences that the Supernote gives me.

    • @steverolfeca
      @steverolfeca 4 месяца назад

      @@jeffreymoss check out Brandon Boswell's unboxing. He used the AI-assist, only leaving a tiny tab at the bottom corner. Ditching menu options after setup made a massive difference to the "feel". I think it's vital that Boox gets the message out about the new, simplified menus. If we're all left to muddle through with the out-of-the-box configuration, it will turn a lot of users off!

  • @Bruceneuman
    @Bruceneuman 4 месяца назад +5

    The lack of front lighting for this type of device is a deal breaker for me.

    • @dalestevens3332
      @dalestevens3332 3 месяца назад

      Not me. I bought an around the neck multi-setting night light for bedtime reading. Virtually every other use case scenario doesn't need a front light for me. Apparently, you don't need much light to read the screen due to the high contrast.

    • @BanjoPixelSnack
      @BanjoPixelSnack 2 месяца назад +1

      I know. It looks so good apart from that! I'm tempted to get it anyway.

  • @steverolfeca
    @steverolfeca 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for clarifying that the kickstand feature is so adjustable with the new case. I think you’ll find there are ample adjustments for text size once you get further into the UI. That was my experience with the NA3C.

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад +1

      That would be my guess as well. I didn't have to adjust the settings for the NA3C, but it's possible that Boox calibrated the new skin for this device so things are different here. I'll play around with the settings to see what I can do to improve the Kobo app in particular.
      Regarding the kickstand, I'm getting a bit more sliding on the device at certain angles, so I'll keep testing that and provide an update. Even with that though, I'm pretty sure the case will still allow for an angle that doesn't provide any glare.

    • @SteamyPMcGee
      @SteamyPMcGee 4 месяца назад +1

      @@jeffreymoss you can use the movable magnetic pen tab to create a ridge on the case when using it as a stand to determine what angle it should stay at. X

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад

      @@SteamyPMcGee That is genius!

  • @rantsabouttechnology
    @rantsabouttechnology 4 месяца назад

    As always, it was an excellent, and thorough initial look.

  • @SteamyPMcGee
    @SteamyPMcGee 4 месяца назад +1

    Mine arrived yesterday and I have started a notebook to write down my dreams right after waking up. I am still experimenting with cloud storage and file and bookshelf structure to decide on the best way to organise my epubs, especially for annotating

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад +1

      So far I'm really happy with it as a notetaking device. I'm still surprised by the look of the icons and writing. I know it's in 300ppi, which is as good as it gets with pixel density, but there's something else going on there that I can't put my finger on. There's almost a 'depth' to the pen strokes. I guess that could just be the contrast. Does that match your experience?

    • @svennikolajsen6624
      @svennikolajsen6624 4 месяца назад

      Could be because of no front light, makes the distance from the screen to the ink shorter. Which makes the pen strokes more clear.

    • @SteamyPMcGee
      @SteamyPMcGee 4 месяца назад

      @jeffreymoss this is my first device without front light layer so I only have kindle pw, kindle basic and nova air c to compare it to. It looks incredibly rich and real like paper, which is by design, but in comparison to my friends remarkable 2 the pen is far smoother too because boox has anti aliasing. I think it turns the strokes into vectors. It is most visible when comparing pen strokes on underlines. Brandon did a quick comparison of this in his unboxing and first testing stream, when I mentioned it .

  • @ser1ification
    @ser1ification 4 месяца назад +2

    I bought for reading good structured pdf files. Waiting for delivery

  • @steverolfeca
    @steverolfeca 4 месяца назад +1

    According the website, Boox is using etched glass to get the paper-like feel and noise on this one, rather than a plastic protector or coating.

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад

      Thanks for calling that out, I missed that!

  • @thaeih
    @thaeih 4 месяца назад +2

    Great video, thank you Jeff!

  • @sithmaster
    @sithmaster 4 месяца назад +3

    I am excited and still disappointed. I would love to have "that" E-Ink Tablet with the same specs, tech and UI - but with frontlight.

    • @dalestevens3332
      @dalestevens3332 3 месяца назад

      Keep waiting for the next 10.3" iteration from Supernote.

  • @baltgames1
    @baltgames1 4 месяца назад +1

    Great,I would like to see more about performance

  • @tonyb408
    @tonyb408 4 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the video. Are they shipping these already?

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад +1

      Yes. I bought mine, Boox didn't provide it to me. I just got it on 6/21.

    • @tonyb408
      @tonyb408 4 месяца назад

      @@jeffreymoss nice. I didn't know they were shipping early. Maybe I will get mine in time to take it with me on holiday.

  • @anirudhakemtur674
    @anirudhakemtur674 4 месяца назад +1

    Hi ! thanks a lot for all your videos !! Helped me a lot and I purchased a Note air 3c. But i felt there is a gap between the pen tip and the e ink layer ..which started to give me headaches ..is that a normal thing with e ink that it gets some time to be used to? Another point i was curious about is if color is not important to me ..if i return this product and buy Go 10.3 , as there is no front light and no color layer, do you thing it would feel more close to writing on paper ? ( in terms of distance from surface ), I would love to hear your thoughts on this .. looks like colour and front lights make it additional layers which make the gap thicker no?

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад

      I've heard other people comment on the distance to the writing surface due to the lighting and color layer, etc., but it's not something I generally notice. I just did some writing on both, looking at my pen strokes at an angle, and I think I do notice a difference. It's not a huge gap between the two, but there is something about the Go that feels just a bit more connected between the stylus tip and the writing. If you don't need the front lighting and color isn't a concern, then I think you'd be happy with the Go.

    • @anirudhakemtur674
      @anirudhakemtur674 4 месяца назад

      @@jeffreymoss Thanks !!

  • @noodlerama-md
    @noodlerama-md 4 месяца назад +1

    How long do those nibs last? (I don‘t have an e-ink device… yet.)

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад +3

      It really depends on how you use the device. In my case, I don't put much pressure on the tip when I write and I don't sketch, so I'm able to use about a nib a year. But I've heard other folks replace their nibs every two weeks or so. Quite a range! I think, for most people, you set the pen to be the type and thickness you want so you don't need to put much pressure on the stylus. So I would think that most can move toward the longer range of replacement. But your mileage may vary.

  • @angal26
    @angal26 4 месяца назад

    thanks for your video! totally love it!

  • @Cons2911
    @Cons2911 4 месяца назад

    How’s the boox when it comes to note organization? I know they have tags and whatnot but I don’t know how useful it is vs what SN can do. I’m not expecting it to beat SN, but i also want one that have access to at least some android apps (I understand that not all apps would work).

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад +1

      It's good, I'd say the Supernote is better for me, but the Boox comes in a close second.

    • @Cons2911
      @Cons2911 4 месяца назад

      @@jeffreymoss yeah I saw some comments, like some of the things it can do it's takes several steps (I think the example I saw was the ones marked by asterisk)
      I'd love to have SN.. But to be honest I need some apps like access to browser so I can Google for example and save those links for reference. Or use email (I don't know if SN has email integration).
      I might just buy a Go10 tomo2put of impulse lol

  • @trololoev
    @trololoev 3 месяца назад

    does it good for reading books or something smaller for this purpose is better?

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  3 месяца назад

      You can read books on it. The device is light enough that it works well, and you can use apps to have access to Kindle, Kobo, etc. I do recommend an eReader with front lighting, and a smaller ereader is more portable. But if you want one device to take notes and read, the Go isn't a bad option.

  • @samenera7315
    @samenera7315 3 месяца назад

    Hi , how is the glare on the screen as compared to note 3 device ? Suppose to be easy on the eyes. Thanks.

    • @samenera7315
      @samenera7315 3 месяца назад

      I meant note air 3.

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  3 месяца назад

      It's good. You do get some glare on the device, but it's easy to shift position relative to a light source in order to get none at all.

  • @Alex-n021
    @Alex-n021 4 месяца назад

    I'm wondering if I could use my SuperNote stylus with this. Would the ceramic nib scratch the glass?!

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад

      Yes, I believe the ceramic nib would damage the screen. But if you are using the Lamy with plastic nibs, you will be fine.

  • @assommnor2309
    @assommnor2309 4 месяца назад

    Welcome
    An important question: Is the lack of interior lighting a very negative and unacceptable thing?
    I am confused between it and the Note Air 3, but I like the Go10.3 more because of its light weight, thin thickness, and accuracy. However, the issue of internal lighting worries me.

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад +1

      It really depends on your lighting situation. I use the Supernote A5X as my daily driver at work, and the lighting there means that I never have a problem that the Supernote does not have front lighting. But in the home setting, my lighting isn't always ideal, and indoors there are quite a few times where I really need front lighting to read. So it depends.

    • @assommnor2309
      @assommnor2309 4 месяца назад

      @@jeffreymoss
      It is true that the device depends on the person's environment, but it is actually very attractive because of its lightness, thinness, accuracy, and the feeling of writing on it!
      But my reading will be in good lighting, and I can provide a small portable light. The truth is that I do not want to give up these features and at this price.. What do you think?

    • @timothycollinson
      @timothycollinson 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@assommnor2309 I'd happily have a frontlight on my reMarkable but only if it added no weight, no cost and no added battery drain (unreasonable I know!). Till that happens I'm very content to keep reading in bright sunlight (perfect for that) or turn on an actual light!

    • @assommnor2309
      @assommnor2309 4 месяца назад

      @@timothycollinson
      Do you encourage me to take this step?

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад +1

      @@assommnor2309 Yeah, if you have good lighting and don't need front lighting to read, then I don't see any issues.

  • @cimba8-y4z
    @cimba8-y4z 4 месяца назад

    rm2 preferred during "unboxing", whether gradually becoming a fully converted? software-functions-wise, there is no comparison between boox and rm

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад

      It's early with the device, but knowing what Boox can do with its notetaking app, this is a real threat to ReMarkable. The gap in features is notable, with Boox having more functionality. ReMarkable still has a few advantages, such as their desktop app, but I'm not sure how they can compete with the Boox device, even with future software updates. People have been calling for an updated device from ReMarkable for some time, and I think the Go makes the case that the time is now or they risk losing market share.

  • @davidr1431
    @davidr1431 4 месяца назад

    Would you say the "whiteness" of the screen is whiter than the Note Air 3? Is the contrast better?

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад +2

      I don't have the Note Air 3 myself, so unfortunately I cannot comment. The screen is about the whitest I have seen however, and the contrast is excellent.

  • @DarkroomZombie
    @DarkroomZombie 27 дней назад

    Not all these device users use Reddit. I actually I don't know one person in my life that uses reddit for anything. However know several large companies with hundreds of users using e-inking devices. That a bad way to gage marketshare based on some social platform only used by a small group of people.

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  27 дней назад

      Fair enough. It's just a data point where there isn't much to go by.

  • @samenera7315
    @samenera7315 4 месяца назад

    Can you read in the dark when the dark mode is turned on ?

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад

      No, you would need front lighting to do that.

  • @jenniferdubay3769
    @jenniferdubay3769 4 месяца назад

    40:26 are you able to in the settings adjust the default system fonts and size?

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад +1

      I'll be checking for that. Didn't have to do that with the NA3C though. But maybe this is different because how they have calibrated the device.

  • @slothsarecool
    @slothsarecool 4 месяца назад

    Bugs me that Boox's "Canvas" is clipping off the display and touching the border around 27:30 haha

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад

      Yeah, there's a lot of things I'm looking at, going back, that I didn't think filmed well. The First Impression videos are always my roughest cut as I want to get the video out timely. Oh well, at least I've progressed a lot in filming since my first videos a little over a year ago.

  • @rush48192
    @rush48192 4 месяца назад

    Ordered on Amazon, so if no good then it will go back

  • @unknown.artist.track3
    @unknown.artist.track3 4 месяца назад +1

    Hey! can you please do a huge favor for me? Can you please try to use your Air 3 C magnetic cover in Portrait mode with your Go 10.3 device. I would like to choose Air2 Plus and I'm wonder if this cover (ruclips.net/video/4OgG7-6HykM/видео.htmlsi=YMEqZRMbY6jAWfXI&t=924) can be practically used by other ONYX devices. I suspect that all (Go 10.3 and Air2 Plus and Air 3 and Air 3 C) can use this cover in portrait mode.
    Can you try that for me and reply here for everyone?

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад +1

      Sure. I tried that and I don't think it works that well. The magnets don't seem to line up, so that the connection is fairly week.

    • @unknown.artist.track3
      @unknown.artist.track3 4 месяца назад

      @@jeffreymoss awesome. thank you. looks like magnets are not lined up because of different devises dimensions. but anyway - your experiment gives us a result. thank you once again.

  • @ErikJan4
    @ErikJan4 4 месяца назад

    It looks like a great device, but for me it still loses to the RM2 because it has apps, sound, bluetooth, aso. All the distractions the RM2 doesn't have and sets it apart from all the other devices on the market.

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад +1

      I will definitely share my thoughts on that in the final review, but I think you are on to something.

  • @JorgeMen-y1i
    @JorgeMen-y1i 4 месяца назад

    Hi,
    I not agree with "a front light is essential for a e-ink device"... Not in my case...
    There are light bulbs, and if there isn't, maybe it's not the right time to read o take notes. Books does not have it and they were a pretty decent device for reading since ages ;)
    The lack of a front light permits a closer distance between the surface and the e-ink... wich is a great advantage.
    It's, in my opinion, a "nice to have" but no "essential".
    Very good video.

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, I don't disagree. My point is that it depends on your lighting situation. In my experience, lighting isn't always ideal in the places where I read, but that's not going to be true for everyone. I guess one way to think about it is that if you can read a book at a given location, then you should be able to read the Go 10.3 as well.

  • @slothsarecool
    @slothsarecool 4 месяца назад

    Ah I just realized it's a Chinese company, cancelled the order :D

    • @jeffreymoss
      @jeffreymoss  4 месяца назад

      That's a consideration, for sure, especially as it relates to cloud services.