I am getting it for PDF. Note taking and PDF annotation will be my primary usage. I have about 100 PDF of scientific papers, specs, presentations and Daily Organizer on my RM2. I am keeping the RM2 and likely use it as a travel device for note taking. The size of RM2 is still hard to beat.
I am new to E inks. I would use it for the same purpose of yours, but was thinking of getting RM2 first. My plan is to see if some major needings and limitations rise up, mainly for absence of colour and screen size, and in that case ask for the refund and get my Paper pro. So my question is are you willing to share here your experience with Paper Pro in the future? I am interested in pdf reading mostly, and, if you happen to be doing it, in knowing how doing math on the device is.
@@thomasdemilio6164 I don't have any plans for follow-up videos, but I will post something if I learn something new about the device, like with future updates, etc.
@@thomasdemilio6164 I received my rMPP and used it for about 2 weeks. Overall it is positive. The size and color definitely helps with technical papers and specs with color. Many charts and diagrams in specs or books are colored, so rMPP makes them readable. Another advantage is that any annotation in the doc can be colored as well. I adding blue notes in a PDF make it feel much better. Not only it is easier to find my annotations, but also it is easier to ignore them if I want to still focus on the original text later. A downside with color is that it uses more power when reading magazine and newspaper PDFs. Especially for magazines, they have full page graphics and I tends to flip back and forth between pages. This drains the battery fast. I am not sure if that's something I will do on the rMPP in the long run, but at least something to keep in mind. General note taking, the battery life is great, at least better than my 4 year old rM2. Or reading a lot of text since it would not need to change pages often. As for the pen, I think writing is good, but I am not sure if it is better with drawing, compared with rM2. I still like the drawing feeling on rM2.
I would have thought so also in the past. But coming from a Supernote and Boox I didn't really enjoy the Kindle app on that. So I ended converting kindle books anyways so I could read them in the native app 😅
@@jakeham4017 I am a Nook user, so a Nook app will be better. However, I have a Boox device with Nook app installed. I rarely use it, because it is too big. When I want to just read for pleasure, I found I still use my phone 90% of the time. It is always with me, and when I sit down for coffee or lunch, I don’t have to remember to bring another device. I think for eReaders, 10” or bigger device are just too bulky. Such a large device is for serious work related reading, like a spec or technical book.
I thought your comments re device size were interesting. I have 2 use cases for an e-ink device - writing in PDF planners and ePUB/PDF book annotation for my studies. I found the Boox Nova (7.8 inch) a great size to carry but a bit too small for planner use and far too small for book annotation. I bought the Boox Tab X (13.3 inch) which is great in split screen mode for book annotation but a bit too cumbersome for carrying about. Maybe the RM Paper Pro will be the best size for both uses but I wonder whether I will miss the Boox way of book annotation? With Boox, you can have a notebook for handwritten notes which is linked to the PDF/EPUB and used in split view to present both side by side. The RM has a much simpler approach, where you can add a blank page(s) to your PDF/EPUB and write your notes in there. Nothing wrong with that per say, but not as convenient as a linked notebook and it can be harder to locate which pages are your notes unless you tag them. However, the RM does have a better organisation system though as you can group EPUB/PDFs and notebooks together in the same folder. If only RM would add split mode to their software roadmap! I am looking forward to seeing what the new Supernote will bring to the table too. I will be interested to hear what you will think of it as I know you are a Supernote user. Great channel content as always!
Nutty as I am, I have iPads, the RM2, the SuperNote and the Scribe. The best all around device remains the iPad, in my opinion. In fact, I still collect all of my notes, wherever they start, in Apple Notes. My note taking for work is rather simple in nature. The Scribe is the best device I own for E-ink note taking. Next is the RM2. The SuperNote is an interesting device but one that I find too slow and clunky for my needs. I am getting the new Remarkable because I am nutty. If they put in a front light that is dim, as you and others have reported it, it may be going back. But, I am going to give it a chance. Enough out of me.
I don't understand the dim complaints. Most devices, Scribe included, have a max brightness that is too bright. It's plenty bright to use in dim areas or in the dark. Do people want to light up a room or use as a flashlight?
I agree. This has to suit a need to create or edit something. To those just looking to read, you can do that on a million other devices that are either more capable or more integrated into particular book stores, which this can't access unless you cloud transfer it to it. And definitely for all the comic book fans, it looks like they'll be stuck resorting to a color tablet until Remarkable decides to allow CBR/CBZ formats natively without having to convert every comic book you have in your collection. I know they're just RAR and ZIP file formats, which is as simple as print to PDF to get it in a readable format. But if you're an avid collector, that could be an overwhelming process, which if it was natively readable in its original format, you would be more likely in using it. Color is beautiful for e-ink. No one else right now has as good of color display. Time will show where Gallery ends up. But Remarkable is leading the pack with it, and has some really nice tricks to getting it rendered with all the limitations it has. I agree the active versus passive pen is a nuisance. Not a deal-breaker, but it limits what you can put in your bag when you want to use something else for the day.
excellent review...yes the price of the device can be skipped, but the price of the accessories like folio or nibs or even the stylus....are not logical at all !
I love your color analysis and perspective, it gave me some things to consider adding to my assessment. I especially like how you mentioned your preference for a color device that doesn't flash as much or as dramatically as the rMPP, which I took to mean you prefer the Kaliedo screens? Either way, I'd take convenience over complexity all day, even if it's slightly less impressive. Kaliedo 3 is still impressive to me so I'm a bit biased. Also, Because they went with Gallery 3, and their devices usually stay on the market awhile, do you think they anticipate being able to improve the tech with software updates, like how some developers for gaming consoles do. Usually over time, they figure out how to squeeze more performance out of the hardware. Just a thought. I have to believe they considered the long haul. Great review my friend!
Well, we've certainly seen the tech improve quite a bit from the Galy to the rMPP, so it's not a stretch to think that more improvements might be coming. But my gut tells me that the next leap will be with Gallery 4, and less so an incremental update. But what do I know?
The best review by far, thankyou for your honest and thorough analysis. I would like to wait for a potential Boox tab 13" in color to come out before buying this device, because my main use is reading PDFs and annotating, also a bit worried about not having enough light, since this feature is what I miss the most on my Rm2. But the colors do look good and very tempting.
I found the lack of contrast problematic in reading PDFs. Maybe my eyes are a bit weak but that was my primary use so I sent it back. I have also got used to the Go 10.3 and really felt the limitations of the remarkable pro. I do miss it though. The writing experience was very good and the light was perfect for me in dim and dark conditions.
Good review. My use will be reading and annotating pdf, sketching ideas and typing outside in the sun. The bigger size makes the keyboard slightly bigger as well, so I think that should work well, and I was happy to see they have the portfolio available for some national keyboard layouts (I have the RPP but ordered the typefolio later, so I don't have that yet). For note taking I will definitely continue using my Supernote A6X2 unless I for some reason need the bigger size for something. So both devices for me.
My only complaint regarding the light is that it bleeds a bit outside the screen (i.e. the bevels aren't completely opaque). I don't use light on e-ink when sitting in a bright environment, and when reading in bed with the lights turned off, the light is bright enough (I ended up using the second highest level). So it is easy to use, comfortable colour, bright enough and doesn't need much space between the glass and the screen..
@torejorgensen5344 I also have the A6X2 since last year. I now used the RMpro for 3 days. I find the writing/reading experience way better with the Remarkable. The use of layers, the almost unlimited canvas writing passing the end of the screen, also at the bottom at the screen, the colour writing, highlighting sections in colour and of course the bigger screen. While writing, the RM plus pen feels better for me on the rough screen surface. And the front light is definite handy sometimes. Last night I was brainstorming how I should use the device, to find my written notes, PDF documents the best (since you have no text search feature inside documents like the Supernote). Since you are so undistructive writing down stuff, the 2 finger tap undo function, the Plus Pen eraser. You are not limited to the display canvas with mind mapping. With the Supernote, I always distracted (like I'm at the end of the line and my wording is too long, so should I go and rewrite on the next line, or I'm at the end of the page, how should I continue? etc). For the moment, I only miss the Kindle book function.
@@torejorgensen5344 Hello, are you saying the lights are bright enough that you can read in the dark ? The frontlight is my main concern. I am worried that it is not strong enough.
@@enlightenment00 Yes, no problem at all. It is weak compared to other devices, but when reading in complete dark I found it more comfortable with the second highest than the highest setting. That might vary from person to person I guess. I doubt anybody with normal vision will have problem reading on it in complete darkness, but some might prefer stronger light.
At first, I was really sold on the Paper Pro - until I learned that you cannot attach a thumb drive via the USBC port! THAT is a deal-breaker. Both the Supernote and the Penstar allow you to offload all your files onto a thumb drive for safe-keeping. Remarkable missed the boat on this one.
Love the battery usage tables. I want to be able to annotate whenever I see fit without having to worry about devices being charged. I hope you are gonna do one also for when the supernote a5x2 is gonna come out!
@@jeffreymoss I think it's great that you don't care that the black isn't pure black, but in my opinion, if you're paying that much money for the remarkable Paper Pro, then that's the least you should demand, since the company boasts of having the best color rendition on the market.❤
@@ninoskids1232 To be clear, it's not that I don't care, it's just that I can't discern the blue. It looks black to me. Other people have noted the blueness as well, so I guess my eyes are a bit limited.
I bought the remarkable paper pro and only used it for a week Then I returned it. I didn't like two things: One is the constant flickering of the screen it gets somewhat annoying, and two the black color is not black, it is a bluish black color.
Hi everybody and thanks for the good video. I am currently using the RM2, but it stopped synchronizing and the RM support team cannot manage to bring it back to life. So I am wondering what could be my next step, and here I would welcome your advices. RM Paper Pro or move to Boox or Super note? Which model? Let me tell you how I use my RM2. I use it to take notes for my work. I have completely stopped using paper. I like the writing feel (close to paper) and the ability to synch all my documents/notebook with my phone or computer. I insist that I like the writing feel and don't want to go to a device which could be like writing on an iPad (which I frankly dislike). But I miss screen light when it becomes dark and would appreciate to be able to synch my Kobo books as well for example. Color is nice but not a must for me. Being able to search documents could be useful and I find the RM2 weak on this. I currently use a Lamy and enjoy the possibility to use the side button as eraser. Being obliged to change pen buying the RMPP bothers me. Access to internet? Not a must but could be interesting to read on tablet instead of on my computer. Based on what I described above what would be your recommendations? Do you know if there is somewhere a side by side table comparing devices? Should I wait as new devices are announced and could be great improvement?
I'm kind of thinking a Boox device might be the best fit for you. That retains cloud storage so you can see documents on your computer (I'm not sure about the phone, however). You can have access to the Kobo Android app, you can get front lighting on most models, and they have powerful search features. In particular, I wonder if the Note Air 3 might be a good fit. So that's my reaction. I'm not sure you'll get a lot of responses in this channel, so if that's the case, I'd suggest posting on the subreddit r/eink where you might get more feedback from other users. Good luck!
You can't go from the functionality of Boox to this device. As noted in the video, I use my NA3C to help with my notes while filming, which is possible due to having Microsoft Apps, full front lighting, and the origami stand. It just does too much too well.
@@jeffreymoss That is one of my considered purchases. I am waiting to see what Boox releases this year. I can’t get more than one device. So, an all-in-one would work the best. I am not a fan of the Boox interface or customer service. But, it’s hard to downsize once you are used to some of their features.
I'd think I'd recommend a Boox device or the Supernote. Both have great notetaking apps, are less expensive, and are more portable. The reMarkable 2 is a good option as well, but not as powerful as those other two companies. If you made me pick one device, I'd look into the Go 10.3. No front lighting or color, but it comes at an excellent price and has great functionality.
I am looking for a device for only making notes and sending to my office server so that the note can be placed in of my legal files. Got any recommendations? Thanks.
It's a touch involved, but if you take a device like Boox with access to the Google Play store, and then use Syncthings where you can set up automatic back up of your files that way. I think they have to be on the same wifi network, but I may be mistaken in that regard. I did a tutorial video on that at the end of last year. Otherwise, some devices allow for syncing to Google Drive or other common cloud storage services, so that's an option as well. But the Syncthings option allows you to keep the files on your network without using the cloud.
Seems like the reMarkable Pro is a great piece of hardware, on the wrong software platform... Gallery3 has great colors, but it's terribly slow on refresh. So that has implications on the kind of applications you do, and the feature set it requires. This device makes lots of sense as an e-comic reader where you want color, and wouldn't mind the page refresh as much. And the size is good for it. Sadly... it's clearly not a comic reader. You can't only use a PDF reader for that purpose. As a note-taking device, reMarkable is very much lacking in features for searching and organizing. So looking back at written notes involves lots of page turning, as if you are browsing through an actual paper notebook. I guess that's their logic for not adding better search option. Which is perfectly fine in B&W, as it does remove complexity in using the device. But now that you add color, that page turning becomes very sluggish when color is actually used. So in effect, for note taking, you'd better still restrict yourself to B&W... At which point you might just as well use a B&W device which costs half and performs better. Using it as an artist platform, again the drawing software isn't rich enough. Not to mention that not seeing what is actually happening until after a few seconds when it refreshes isn't a great painting experience either. Indeed, reviewing color PDF's seems to be the only use case where this hardware comes to shine... That seems a very narrow niche. For the current reMarkable concept, it seems B&W 300 ppi would be best. And if you would want to add color, use Kaleido, as then you can very quickly browser through your notes. And for highlighting notes the color accuracy isn't relevant. While the colors wow at first glance, I think the drawbacks of Gallery are especially noticeable on the reMarkable concept... Beautiful hardware, and makes wow reviews... But I think many people are going to be disappointed when they are actually using it for a longer time.
You are so right about the device not snappy. I am so unhappy with it that I am thinking about sending the remarkable back. I understand that we cannot expect e-ink devices to be as fast as an iPad, but come on. I have been counting and the result is shocking. With a small pdf file, for every 10 swipes to turn page, there are 2 swipes that did nothing. For every 10 swipes to open the option to turn on the backlight, 2 swipes did nothing. What the helllllllllllllllllll ! On top of this stuttering performance, the screen is so dim and reflective making it not enjoyable to read at night with my desk lamp. So sad!
Power switch on the bottom will absolutely trigger accidental power on off when in use. Just flip your RM over and give it a try. I have a tendency to rest on a corner when not writing on a surface (lap, thigh, etc)
Totally agree. I don't normally use this kind of device on a desk. I normally have it resting with the bottom edge in my lap or against my stomach, and would absolutely have accidental presses if the button was at the bottom. Right side is occupied by the pen. So then the question is just where on the top it should be. And I don't really use the button much anyway since it turns off when closing the cover.
I'm not clear about your comment, the power button is actually on the top. Are you referring to the comment I made about the 'hide menu' toggle where I suggested it be at the bottom of the screen?
@jeffreymoss hi - maybe I misheard you. But I thought I heard you suggest the power button should be on the bottom vs top, and that it was ot hard to reach. If you are referencing that little circle to control the side panel should be on the bottom - we'll yeah 💯 agree. May need to listen again. Thanks.
Gee, your reviews are really something, you could easily go for the most thorough reviewer on YT. I must confess that I am losing the overview a bit on the e-reader and e-note offerings. Maybe you would allow me this question. Suppose that I find the following things really important: - being able to read an ebook on a decent e-book app - being eable to read pdf's and easily zoom in and out, you know, the two finger things. On my Remarkable 2 this is hell: you enlarge it with your fingers, it reacts clunky and slow and when it gets there it is way too big, it's not responsive and therefore useless - being able to write on the ebooks and pdf's directly, underline, and scribble a word here and there in the margin, it doesn't have to much fancier than that althoudh the writing should be doable, not too clunky - around 10'' That's it, no other fancy notetaking of other stuff, just read books and pdf's and be able to write on it. Anything you could recommend? Once more, thanks for the massive amount of work you put into your channel!
Generally speaking, I think you would want to gravitate to a Boox device. The Go 10.3 is great, inexpensive (relatively speaking), and checks most of your boxes. Pinch and zoom on eink isn't as good as what we are accustomed to with LCD tablets or phones, but it's better than the Remarkable 2 with the Go. The downsides are a bit more ghosting, no color, and no front lighting. Need front lighting, then consider the Note Air 3. Want color, consider the Note Air 3 C. Hope that helps.
Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't notice it as much by itself, only in comparisons. But to your point, what causes that at all? Perhaps Gallery 3 inherently can't be as light as a Carta display due to the 4-color microcapsules.
Thank you for your balanced review. Most other reviews feel more like a Remarkable Ad than an actual review. Very useful!
Superb effort, can't be bettered, thank you for making the not inconsiderable care and attention.
Really fine reviews. Thoughtful and clearly presented
I am getting it for PDF. Note taking and PDF annotation will be my primary usage. I have about 100 PDF of scientific papers, specs, presentations and Daily Organizer on my RM2. I am keeping the RM2 and likely use it as a travel device for note taking. The size of RM2 is still hard to beat.
Perfect example of where the rMPP will shine. Enjoy!
I am new to E inks. I would use it for the same purpose of yours, but was thinking of getting RM2 first. My plan is to see if some major needings and limitations rise up, mainly for absence of colour and screen size, and in that case ask for the refund and get my Paper pro.
So my question is are you willing to share here your experience with Paper Pro in the future?
I am interested in pdf reading mostly, and, if you happen to be doing it, in knowing how doing math on the device is.
@@thomasdemilio6164 I don't have any plans for follow-up videos, but I will post something if I learn something new about the device, like with future updates, etc.
@@thomasdemilio6164 I am still waiting for my rMPP, but will certainly share my experience when I have it.
@@thomasdemilio6164 I received my rMPP and used it for about 2 weeks. Overall it is positive. The size and color definitely helps with technical papers and specs with color. Many charts and diagrams in specs or books are colored, so rMPP makes them readable. Another advantage is that any annotation in the doc can be colored as well. I adding blue notes in a PDF make it feel much better. Not only it is easier to find my annotations, but also it is easier to ignore them if I want to still focus on the original text later.
A downside with color is that it uses more power when reading magazine and newspaper PDFs. Especially for magazines, they have full page graphics and I tends to flip back and forth between pages. This drains the battery fast. I am not sure if that's something I will do on the rMPP in the long run, but at least something to keep in mind. General note taking, the battery life is great, at least better than my 4 year old rM2. Or reading a lot of text since it would not need to change pages often.
As for the pen, I think writing is good, but I am not sure if it is better with drawing, compared with rM2. I still like the drawing feeling on rM2.
Great review, so much info. For me the biggest miss is no Kindle app as it would have been a great reading device.
I would have thought so also in the past. But coming from a Supernote and Boox I didn't really enjoy the Kindle app on that. So I ended converting kindle books anyways so I could read them in the native app 😅
@@jakeham4017 I am a Nook user, so a Nook app will be better. However, I have a Boox device with Nook app installed. I rarely use it, because it is too big. When I want to just read for pleasure, I found I still use my phone 90% of the time. It is always with me, and when I sit down for coffee or lunch, I don’t have to remember to bring another device. I think for eReaders, 10” or bigger device are just too bulky. Such a large device is for serious work related reading, like a spec or technical book.
@@mbsgt112haha same here
I thought your comments re device size were interesting. I have 2 use cases for an e-ink device - writing in PDF planners and ePUB/PDF book annotation for my studies. I found the Boox Nova (7.8 inch) a great size to carry but a bit too small for planner use and far too small for book annotation. I bought the Boox Tab X (13.3 inch) which is great in split screen mode for book annotation but a bit too cumbersome for carrying about. Maybe the RM Paper Pro will be the best size for both uses but I wonder whether I will miss the Boox way of book annotation? With Boox, you can have a notebook for handwritten notes which is linked to the PDF/EPUB and used in split view to present both side by side. The RM has a much simpler approach, where you can add a blank page(s) to your PDF/EPUB and write your notes in there. Nothing wrong with that per say, but not as convenient as a linked notebook and it can be harder to locate which pages are your notes unless you tag them. However, the RM does have a better organisation system though as you can group EPUB/PDFs and notebooks together in the same folder. If only RM would add split mode to their software roadmap!
I am looking forward to seeing what the new Supernote will bring to the table too. I will be interested to hear what you will think of it as I know you are a Supernote user. Great channel content as always!
Nutty as I am, I have iPads, the RM2, the SuperNote and the Scribe. The best all around device remains the iPad, in my opinion. In fact, I still collect all of my notes, wherever they start, in Apple Notes. My note taking for work is rather simple in nature. The Scribe is the best device I own for E-ink note taking. Next is the RM2. The SuperNote is an interesting device but one that I find too slow and clunky for my needs. I am getting the new Remarkable because I am nutty. If they put in a front light that is dim, as you and others have reported it, it may be going back. But, I am going to give it a chance. Enough out of me.
I don't understand the dim complaints. Most devices, Scribe included, have a max brightness that is too bright.
It's plenty bright to use in dim areas or in the dark. Do people want to light up a room or use as a flashlight?
I agree. This has to suit a need to create or edit something. To those just looking to read, you can do that on a million other devices that are either more capable or more integrated into particular book stores, which this can't access unless you cloud transfer it to it. And definitely for all the comic book fans, it looks like they'll be stuck resorting to a color tablet until Remarkable decides to allow CBR/CBZ formats natively without having to convert every comic book you have in your collection. I know they're just RAR and ZIP file formats, which is as simple as print to PDF to get it in a readable format. But if you're an avid collector, that could be an overwhelming process, which if it was natively readable in its original format, you would be more likely in using it. Color is beautiful for e-ink. No one else right now has as good of color display. Time will show where Gallery ends up. But Remarkable is leading the pack with it, and has some really nice tricks to getting it rendered with all the limitations it has. I agree the active versus passive pen is a nuisance. Not a deal-breaker, but it limits what you can put in your bag when you want to use something else for the day.
Your review helped me make a decision. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Great review. It is interesting to know that you finally get used to the screen flash.
excellent review...yes the price of the device can be skipped, but the price of the accessories like folio or nibs or even the stylus....are not logical at all !
Superb and balanced review.
I love your color analysis and perspective, it gave me some things to consider adding to my assessment. I especially like how you mentioned your preference for a color device that doesn't flash as much or as dramatically as the rMPP, which I took to mean you prefer the Kaliedo screens? Either way, I'd take convenience over complexity all day, even if it's slightly less impressive. Kaliedo 3 is still impressive to me so I'm a bit biased. Also, Because they went with Gallery 3, and their devices usually stay on the market awhile, do you think they anticipate being able to improve the tech with software updates, like how some developers for gaming consoles do. Usually over time, they figure out how to squeeze more performance out of the hardware. Just a thought. I have to believe they considered the long haul.
Great review my friend!
Well, we've certainly seen the tech improve quite a bit from the Galy to the rMPP, so it's not a stretch to think that more improvements might be coming. But my gut tells me that the next leap will be with Gallery 4, and less so an incremental update. But what do I know?
@@jeffreymoss alot!
The best review by far, thankyou for your honest and thorough analysis. I would like to wait for a potential Boox tab 13" in color to come out before buying this device, because my main use is reading PDFs and annotating, also a bit worried about not having enough light, since this feature is what I miss the most on my Rm2. But the colors do look good and very tempting.
Excellent review, thanks!
What a great review! I very much enjoyed it, thank you!
I found the lack of contrast problematic in reading PDFs. Maybe my eyes are a bit weak but that was my primary use so I sent it back.
I have also got used to the Go 10.3 and really felt the limitations of the remarkable pro.
I do miss it though. The writing experience was very good and the light was perfect for me in dim and dark conditions.
Good review. My use will be reading and annotating pdf, sketching ideas and typing outside in the sun. The bigger size makes the keyboard slightly bigger as well, so I think that should work well, and I was happy to see they have the portfolio available for some national keyboard layouts (I have the RPP but ordered the typefolio later, so I don't have that yet). For note taking I will definitely continue using my Supernote A6X2 unless I for some reason need the bigger size for something. So both devices for me.
My only complaint regarding the light is that it bleeds a bit outside the screen (i.e. the bevels aren't completely opaque). I don't use light on e-ink when sitting in a bright environment, and when reading in bed with the lights turned off, the light is bright enough (I ended up using the second highest level). So it is easy to use, comfortable colour, bright enough and doesn't need much space between the glass and the screen..
@torejorgensen5344 I also have the A6X2 since last year. I now used the RMpro for 3 days. I find the writing/reading experience way better with the Remarkable. The use of layers, the almost unlimited canvas writing passing the end of the screen, also at the bottom at the screen, the colour writing, highlighting sections in colour and of course the bigger screen. While writing, the RM plus pen feels better for me on the rough screen surface. And the front light is definite handy sometimes. Last night I was brainstorming how I should use the device, to find my written notes, PDF documents the best (since you have no text search feature inside documents like the Supernote). Since you are so undistructive writing down stuff, the 2 finger tap undo function, the Plus Pen eraser. You are not limited to the display canvas with mind mapping. With the Supernote, I always distracted (like I'm at the end of the line and my wording is too long, so should I go and rewrite on the next line, or I'm at the end of the page, how should I continue? etc). For the moment, I only miss the Kindle book function.
@@torejorgensen5344 Hello, are you saying the lights are bright enough that you can read in the dark ? The frontlight is my main concern. I am worried that it is not strong enough.
@@enlightenment00 Yes, no problem at all. It is weak compared to other devices, but when reading in complete dark I found it more comfortable with the second highest than the highest setting. That might vary from person to person I guess. I doubt anybody with normal vision will have problem reading on it in complete darkness, but some might prefer stronger light.
@@torejorgensen5344 👍🏽👍🏻 Ok Thankyou !
thanks for that excellent reveiew. Since my rMPP is still to come, I dearly hope that the SW has room for improvement left to taggle the shortfalls
At first, I was really sold on the Paper Pro - until I learned that you cannot attach a thumb drive via the USBC port! THAT is a deal-breaker. Both the Supernote and the Penstar allow you to offload all your files onto a thumb drive for safe-keeping. Remarkable missed the boat on this one.
Love the battery usage tables. I want to be able to annotate whenever I see fit without having to worry about devices being charged. I hope you are gonna do one also for when the supernote a5x2 is gonna come out!
Yes, that's the plan.
Great tablet. I want one but will wait for version 3. Hopefully it will come out begin 2025
The ironie with this is the colors are good but the black is bad which used to be the other way around.
I've heard other folks comment on the blacks as well, but I didn't have a problem with it.
@@jeffreymoss I think it's great that you don't care that the black isn't pure black, but in my opinion, if you're paying that much money for the remarkable Paper Pro, then that's the least you should demand, since the company boasts of having the best color rendition on the market.❤
@@ninoskids1232 To be clear, it's not that I don't care, it's just that I can't discern the blue. It looks black to me. Other people have noted the blueness as well, so I guess my eyes are a bit limited.
@@jeffreymoss Well, I think you have serious vision problems. I'll answer you in Spanish so you can translate it. No pos wow😮
I bought the remarkable paper pro and only used it for a week Then I returned it. I didn't like two things: One is the constant flickering of the screen it gets somewhat annoying, and two the black color is not black, it is a bluish black color.
You are not alone in seeing the blacks with a bluish hue, but I have to say, I just don't see that.
@@jeffreymoss There is no worse blind person than the one who does not want to see.😂
@@ninoskids1232 I like you already.
@@jeffreymoss Don't worry, I understand you. Everyone can make mistakes and you are one of them. It's okay.
Hi everybody and thanks for the good video.
I am currently using the RM2, but it stopped synchronizing and the RM support team cannot manage to bring it back to life. So I am wondering what could be my next step, and here I would welcome your advices.
RM Paper Pro or move to Boox or Super note? Which model?
Let me tell you how I use my RM2.
I use it to take notes for my work. I have completely stopped using paper. I like the writing feel (close to paper) and the ability to synch all my documents/notebook with my phone or computer. I insist that I like the writing feel and don't want to go to a device which could be like writing on an iPad (which I frankly dislike).
But I miss screen light when it becomes dark and would appreciate to be able to synch my Kobo books as well for example.
Color is nice but not a must for me.
Being able to search documents could be useful and I find the RM2 weak on this.
I currently use a Lamy and enjoy the possibility to use the side button as eraser. Being obliged to change pen buying the RMPP bothers me.
Access to internet? Not a must but could be interesting to read on tablet instead of on my computer.
Based on what I described above what would be your recommendations?
Do you know if there is somewhere a side by side table comparing devices?
Should I wait as new devices are announced and could be great improvement?
I'm kind of thinking a Boox device might be the best fit for you. That retains cloud storage so you can see documents on your computer (I'm not sure about the phone, however). You can have access to the Kobo Android app, you can get front lighting on most models, and they have powerful search features. In particular, I wonder if the Note Air 3 might be a good fit. So that's my reaction. I'm not sure you'll get a lot of responses in this channel, so if that's the case, I'd suggest posting on the subreddit r/eink where you might get more feedback from other users. Good luck!
@@jeffreymoss Thanks for the reply!
Great review. I currently have a Boox. I love the colors of the RMPP, but would miss the apps, and shape perfections tools in Boox.
You can't go from the functionality of Boox to this device. As noted in the video, I use my NA3C to help with my notes while filming, which is possible due to having Microsoft Apps, full front lighting, and the origami stand. It just does too much too well.
@@jeffreymoss That is one of my considered purchases. I am waiting to see what Boox releases this year. I can’t get more than one device. So, an all-in-one would work the best. I am not a fan of the Boox interface or customer service. But, it’s hard to downsize once you are used to some of their features.
So you would recommend the device for University students who need to take a lot of notes and writing inside and outisde of pdfs? :)
I'd think I'd recommend a Boox device or the Supernote. Both have great notetaking apps, are less expensive, and are more portable. The reMarkable 2 is a good option as well, but not as powerful as those other two companies. If you made me pick one device, I'd look into the Go 10.3. No front lighting or color, but it comes at an excellent price and has great functionality.
I am looking for a device for only making notes and sending to my office server so that the note can be placed in of my legal files. Got any recommendations? Thanks.
It's a touch involved, but if you take a device like Boox with access to the Google Play store, and then use Syncthings where you can set up automatic back up of your files that way. I think they have to be on the same wifi network, but I may be mistaken in that regard. I did a tutorial video on that at the end of last year. Otherwise, some devices allow for syncing to Google Drive or other common cloud storage services, so that's an option as well. But the Syncthings option allows you to keep the files on your network without using the cloud.
Hey does this have talk to text feature?
Not that I'm aware of.
Seems like the reMarkable Pro is a great piece of hardware, on the wrong software platform... Gallery3 has great colors, but it's terribly slow on refresh. So that has implications on the kind of applications you do, and the feature set it requires.
This device makes lots of sense as an e-comic reader where you want color, and wouldn't mind the page refresh as much. And the size is good for it. Sadly... it's clearly not a comic reader. You can't only use a PDF reader for that purpose.
As a note-taking device, reMarkable is very much lacking in features for searching and organizing. So looking back at written notes involves lots of page turning, as if you are browsing through an actual paper notebook. I guess that's their logic for not adding better search option. Which is perfectly fine in B&W, as it does remove complexity in using the device. But now that you add color, that page turning becomes very sluggish when color is actually used. So in effect, for note taking, you'd better still restrict yourself to B&W... At which point you might just as well use a B&W device which costs half and performs better.
Using it as an artist platform, again the drawing software isn't rich enough. Not to mention that not seeing what is actually happening until after a few seconds when it refreshes isn't a great painting experience either.
Indeed, reviewing color PDF's seems to be the only use case where this hardware comes to shine... That seems a very narrow niche.
For the current reMarkable concept, it seems B&W 300 ppi would be best. And if you would want to add color, use Kaleido, as then you can very quickly browser through your notes. And for highlighting notes the color accuracy isn't relevant. While the colors wow at first glance, I think the drawbacks of Gallery are especially noticeable on the reMarkable concept...
Beautiful hardware, and makes wow reviews... But I think many people are going to be disappointed when they are actually using it for a longer time.
why isn't it listed as the pros, fastest latency on the market? In my opinion, this is one of the key features of these devices.
That attribute didn't stick out to me. These devices are generally so good that I only notice the latency when it's bad or inconsistent.
Thank you
You are so right about the device not snappy. I am so unhappy with it that I am thinking about sending the remarkable back. I understand that we cannot expect e-ink devices to be as fast as an iPad, but come on. I have been counting and the result is shocking. With a small pdf file, for every 10 swipes to turn page, there are 2 swipes that did nothing. For every 10 swipes to open the option to turn on the backlight, 2 swipes did nothing. What the helllllllllllllllllll !
On top of this stuttering performance, the screen is so dim and reflective making it not enjoyable to read at night with my desk lamp. So sad!
Power switch on the bottom will absolutely trigger accidental power on off when in use. Just flip your RM over and give it a try.
I have a tendency to rest on a corner when not writing on a surface (lap, thigh, etc)
Totally agree. I don't normally use this kind of device on a desk. I normally have it resting with the bottom edge in my lap or against my stomach, and would absolutely have accidental presses if the button was at the bottom. Right side is occupied by the pen. So then the question is just where on the top it should be. And I don't really use the button much anyway since it turns off when closing the cover.
I'm not clear about your comment, the power button is actually on the top. Are you referring to the comment I made about the 'hide menu' toggle where I suggested it be at the bottom of the screen?
@jeffreymoss hi - maybe I misheard you. But I thought I heard you suggest the power button should be on the bottom vs top, and that it was ot hard to reach. If you are referencing that little circle to control the side panel should be on the bottom - we'll yeah 💯 agree. May need to listen again. Thanks.
@@arturodeguzman Yeah, that's what I meant. I probably should have been more clear.
Gee, your reviews are really something, you could easily go for the most thorough reviewer on YT. I must confess that I am losing the overview a bit on the e-reader and e-note offerings. Maybe you would allow me this question. Suppose that I find the following things really important:
- being able to read an ebook on a decent e-book app
- being eable to read pdf's and easily zoom in and out, you know, the two finger things. On my Remarkable 2 this is hell: you enlarge it with your fingers, it reacts clunky and slow and when it gets there it is way too big, it's not responsive and therefore useless
- being able to write on the ebooks and pdf's directly, underline, and scribble a word here and there in the margin, it doesn't have to much fancier than that althoudh the writing should be doable, not too clunky
- around 10''
That's it, no other fancy notetaking of other stuff, just read books and pdf's and be able to write on it.
Anything you could recommend?
Once more, thanks for the massive amount of work you put into your channel!
Generally speaking, I think you would want to gravitate to a Boox device. The Go 10.3 is great, inexpensive (relatively speaking), and checks most of your boxes. Pinch and zoom on eink isn't as good as what we are accustomed to with LCD tablets or phones, but it's better than the Remarkable 2 with the Go. The downsides are a bit more ghosting, no color, and no front lighting. Need front lighting, then consider the Note Air 3. Want color, consider the Note Air 3 C. Hope that helps.
@@jeffreymoss Thanks for your advice, much appreciated!
But why background is dim?
Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't notice it as much by itself, only in comparisons. But to your point, what causes that at all? Perhaps Gallery 3 inherently can't be as light as a Carta display due to the 4-color microcapsules.
Man, you really are a pro in wasting people’s time
I put chapters in my videos so viewers can just focus on the content they want.