Pathfinder (2e): Attack of Opportunity
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- Discussing Attacks of Opportunity in Pathfinder 2nd edition.
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00:00 Introduction
00:25 Attack of Opportunity
01:38 Requirement #1: Melee Reach
03:01 Requirement #2a: Manipulate Actions
04:46 Requirement #2b: Ranged Attacks
05:30 Requirement #2c: Move Actions
05:57 Requirement #2d: Moving Through Squares
08:06 Strike
08:25 Disrupting Actions
10:23 Close
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I missed this format! Great video, as usual.
I appreciate how comprehensive this video is. Much appreciated!
You're very welcome!
I like this format alot!
I like the design of the slides, the details, visible animations, colors, knowledge and of course your voice!
Thank you very much Dave! You have taught me a lot more about PF2e that I would possibly learn from "reading" the rules!
Awesome -- glad to hear the videos are helping!
Agreed! Fantastic work!
So good. Thanks for all these videos
Thank you for making this! It has bugged me to know weather moving in to a threatened space provoked an AO or not. Now I know. Great video as always!
You're very welcome!
Thanks for posting! Is there RAW on when a Fighter is adjacent to a Creature, but for some reason Fighter can't see the creature when the Creature would normally trigger the AoO?
I have ruled that the Fighter may attempt it but must roll a DC 11 flat check because it's Hidden, UNLESS the Creature Sneaks away and gains the Undetected condition...
Hey! I've been enjoying your videos! I don't see anything in RAW that would treat this any differently than the usual rules for targeting. So, I'd handle it the way you suggest -- DC 11 if the enemy is hidden. It'd be pretty situational.
@@HowItsPlayed Yeah, I've erred toward that so players don't feel they miss out. And then I apply it to the monsters as well, of course
Thank YOU!
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@@HowItsPlayed would be cool to have vidéos about specific monsters tactic. Like Dragon maybe hahaha
The order of movement means that a character standing up is no longer flat footed when the AoO happens?
That is correct mechanically. Tripping opponents is still good in PF2E however AND if you critically hit with a hammer weapon on the AoO, the critical specialization can actually knock them prone again with this order.
@@luminousmage
This is even more relevant with monsters with the improved trip and AoE. Interesting. Thanks
The rules dictate timing for both manipulate actions and move actions very clearly (some it happens before, others it happens after), but nowhere is it clarified what the timing is when the trigger is a ranged attack. Does the GM then just have to choose whether the AoO goes off before or after?
don't know where i heard it or if im confusing 1e. but can anyone use an AoO but subject to gm DC checks (like using unskilled) or is 2e AoO limited to the use of this feature/feat to be doable at all?
If a ranged attack triggers an attack of opportunity which hits first? the ranged attack? or the attack of opportunity?
I feel like there's a fringe case if using the Drop Dead spell on yourself if you're being hit. The spell Drop Dead costs a reaction, and it triggers upon being hit by an enemy's attack. If that attack were melee, and you cast Drop Dead, would that trigger an Attack of Opportunity (DD has somatic component, so it has the manipulate trait)? And if that AoO were a crit, does Drop Dead get disrupted?
Does a Reload 0 trigger AoO, such that a ranged attack could be disrupted?
This may have been mentioned in the comments already, and perhaps I am confused, but the "release" action has the "manipulate" trait so whether going from two to one hand on a weapon, or visa-versa would trigger an attack of opportunity, correct?
"Unlike most manipulate actions, Release does not trigger reactions that can be triggered by actions with the manipulate trait (such as Attack of Opportunity)."
So, a future video on AoO vs Step action?
Hey Big question: Is it true, you can no longer use skills (like acrobatics) to avoid an Attack of opportunity?
Scenario: 4 characters
Fighter
Fighter
Champion
Wizard
All within reach of each other
Wizard casts spell
Fighter aoo
Champion reaction makes wizard step
2nd fighter can no longer reach wizard? Or who decides the order of reactions?
Some 5e players balk at how not everything has Attack of Opportunity in 2e, but given how much more powerful AoO is in 2e than 5e I would wager you'll see Attacks of Opportunity happen more in 2e than 5e.
Heck I've played 5e for quite a few campaigns and never seen one outside a player using Tunnel Fighter and Sentinel, which is limited to some classes and feat support. Meanwhile I've seen like 6 or 7 in just one campaign of 2e that is only half done.
My player's have a tendency to use whip for ranged trip on the enemy adjacent to the fighter with the scythe, those extra AOO's when they stand back up...
It never happened in 1e either, unless you were desperate and couldn't afford to play around them. In my 2e play, generally the only reason I see them is simply because most creatures don't have them, so there's no need to play around them (until suddenly there is).
good Ol'AOP.
*toss a log on the fires of sacrifice to the algorithm gods*
Thanks!
Using Stride and then moving into a threatened square doesn't trigger the AoO, but what if during that same Stride they continue moving from that first threatened square into another threatened square of the same creature? Does that still trigger it or only if they begin their Stride while threatened?
That would still trigger it. If you move out of a space within melee reach of an enemy, you trigger that enemy's AoO (assuming they have that ability).
So if an enemy stands up from prone adjacent to the party fighter, the fighter does not get his strike til the enemy has finished standing? And because the enemy had finished standing before being attacked, if the fighter crits, he does not interrupt the stand action?
Correct -- by RAW, the Fighter does not get to attempt their Attack of Opportunity until after the enemy completely stands up. However, I do know GMs who prefer to allow the AoO sooner (great when the enemy is the one prone, not so awesome when it's the player). And, regardless, I don't think a Crit would disrupt the action here because Stand does not have the Manipulate trait.
@@HowItsPlayed I know it's not AoO, but what if the reaction in question is the monk's Stand Still feat? Or the playtest Weapon Thaumaturge's ability to disrupt a move action?
@@TheRulesLawyerRPG That's the Million GP question. :) Stand Still wouldn't trigger until after the enemy stands up, but there are arguments both ways as to whether the target gets knocked prone again on a crit. In my game, I'd probably have it knock the enemy prone if a player was the monk in this scenario ... because that just seems more fun. And this is one of the items on the list for me to discuss with the Paizo Rules Goblins later this month, so hopefully we'll get a definitive answer!
@@HowItsPlayed Thanks. Would like to hear straight from the goblins' mouth on this one!
Great video. I am in doubt. When performing a successful trip, does the falling action trigger an attack of opportunity ? I do not think so because it is a forced movement but the video leaves doubt.
If the target is being tripped, they aren't taking an action. Falling prone is an action someone can chose to take on their turn. Being knocked prone is an effect that is forced onto the target. While they look the same, they aren't.
@@kevinbarnard355 Thank you very much. So that also means that for the quick draw feat there is an attack of opportunity triggered. You draw your weapon and attack with the same motion. * You Interact to draw a weapon *, then Strike with that weapon.
@@kolimarvelcor3104 Correct, as it's written. Quick Draw is not an independent free action (which some GMs might declare don't provoke) followed by a separate unrelated Strike action or move, or cast a spell. It's an activity which combines 2 actions into one, the drawing and the striking.
so not every creature gets attack of opportunity?
correct
So on approach of an enemy using a stride action while you have reach, it triggers?
¿but what if you move LEAVING a threatened square towards a non-threatened one?
Yup, that's an attack of opportunity. That's the point: an experienced fighter will take advantage of you retreating to take a jab at you.
Leaving any threatened square/space for any reason threatens, unless the mover uses an ability that says it doesn't provoke (like Step). It doesn't matter what direction you move, it could even be up if they jump/fly.
@@kevinbarnard355 if you get an absolute pain in the a$$ rules lawyer, one could say it says leaves the SQUARE, not the cube, therefore three dimensional movements do not provoke AOO if you go straight up 🤣
@@SebastienPatriote I'd shut that down fast. Elevating above the plane of the square is leaving it. But yeah, I know a few people like that.
@@kevinbarnard355 I was joking more then anything else. I like finding these sort of loopholes as a thought exercise, I would never allow them let alone try to use them thought.
Drawing a weapon should never trigger an AoO
Why?