Pathfinder (2e): Basics of Damage Part 2 (Precision Damage, Persistent Damage, & Alignment Damage)
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- Part 2 of the Basics of Damage in Pathfinder 2nd edition!
** This is an updated version of a previously released video. This version provides clarification in regard to Positive/Negative Damage and Persistent Damage.
In this video we cover Alignment Damage, Positive Damage, Good Damage, Precision Damage and Persistent Damage.
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00:00 Introduction
00:21 Alignment Damage
02:12 Positive and Negative Damage
03:32 Precision Damage
05:37 Persistent Damage
10:05 TL;DR (Summary)
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I re-recorded the section on Positive/Negative damage as the original version wasn't very clear.
@@HowItsPlayed so I’m guessing a creature like the Grim Reaper and the Psychopomp are considered Undead creatures do to their affiliation with the Afterlife and Death. That means that both are weak to Positive Damage, correct?
@@hoovy2319 Psychopomps are not actually undead -- they're "Monitors". So they don't suffer damage from Positive and (probably because of their association with the afterlife) they have resistance to Negative damage. And Grim Reapers are weird... they are Undead, but have a special ability that lets them decide if they want to suffer Positive Damage.
@@HowItsPlayed great, I’ll have to think of something else then
I have a character in a campaign I’m playing right now who’s was brought back and had his soul bound to Wraith (kinda like Shadow of Mordor) with the one purpose of ending the war in his homeland that killed him. Once this is done, his soul will be taken back and he’ll die again. However, the campaign we’re doing is a “there’s no main story quest so just see what you guys get yourselves into” kinda game so there’s more to do after we end the war but based on how my character is made, he’ll die whether I want him to or not. I’ve grown kind of attached to him so I’m trying to figure out a way to kill the Psychopomp, Lesser Death and then the Grim Reaper who’ll come after me if I refuse to give my soul up
Thanks for your help mate
Incredibly thorough, clear, concise and fantastic use of teaching with illustrations/examples. I have shared these videos with my players. Very well done, keep up the great work!
Awesome, thank you!
I cannot explain to you how helpful these videos have been for specific rules that are not often dealt with in my games. Many thanks.
You're very welcome!
This is one of my favorites Pathfinder series out there. I have picked up a ridiculous amount of tips / clarifications from your videos. Thank you!
You're very welcome! Thanks for watching!
The Critical hit effect on Persistent damage is fearsome ! A bit ridiculous in my opinion.
These videos are great, thank you so much! Snares would be a good topic - they don't seem to be as simple as they appear with crafting and setting, and possibly recovering them!
Snares has been a popular suggestion. I'm sure I'll get to that sooner or later!
@@HowItsPlayed Awesome! Just noticed there will be a snare crafting archetype in the advanced players guide, so that might change some things!
Thanks, this was helpful!
Glad to hear it!
Very informative, especially that crits double damage that some other system wouldn’t.
Hey! Great videos as always, but I had already watched the one from yesterday. I suggest maybe pointing out what's been changed/revised in the videos' descriptions whenever you reupload something.
I usually do, but this one slipped through the cracks. Thanks for letting me know!
amazing
Is precision damage doubled on a critical hit? Or would you add it after doubling everything else?
It gets doubled! Check out Damage Part 1 for an explanation and an example of how critical damage for a Sneak Attack is calculated: ruclips.net/video/RatgKc3s7ZU/видео.html
Can you do a video on mitigating damage? Like a fighter using a shield and shield feats.
For the case of mental damage, I assume all the normal rules apply, however I was wondering how you would describe mental damage to the players, especially if the circumstance is something like the illusory creature spell where a player believes they are being attack by a fire breath attack or an claw swiping at them. Should a GM tell them it's fire damage or slashing damage?
Do you reroll persistent damage each round, or do you only roll once when you make the strike?
You re-roll it every round.
I have 1 question
What happens if you use positive/negative damage against a mechanical being like an arbiter?
Mechanically speaking, Arbiters are living creatures. Therefore, they would be harmed by negative energy.
Does persistent damage stack ? If I inflict 2d4 persistent fire damage to someone with a spell, and again next turn. Does it goes up to 4d4? Or does only the highest persistent damage from that type applies ? (for example heightening the spell to do 3d4, replacing the 2d4)
Only the higher damage rolled is taken.
And to add to what LBK said, if you got hit with another type of persistent damage, like persistent acid damage, then both would apply.
@@HowItsPlayed Mhm, I expected that to stack. I was wondering because of the playtest of the Fire Oracle, who has an aura that inflicts persistant fire damage everytime someone takes fire damage. If it could stack it'd be too strong, though I guess the persistent fire triggers the aura and "refreshes" the damage. in which case... maybe it makes it so you cannot do the flat check as long as you are in range ? I doubt it. Thanks for the answers !
Aside from immunities, resistances, and weaknesses; does mental damage do anything other than normal damage?
So, neutral aligned characters are immune to alignment damage, right ?
Perhaps I missed it twice, but after watching both damage videos I still wonder if precision damage is doubled on a crit since it raises the base damage type. Sounds like it belongs in step 1 to me since it still deals with the base effect and not with the target's weaknesses.
Yes, precision damage is damaged on a crit. For more detail, see this video: ruclips.net/video/tfpjvQi9wUk/видео.html
@@HowItsPlayed Thanks for clearing it up :)
What about Mental Domage, how to play.
These video will be my Bible.
A question: if a creature suffer multiple time the Fire Persistent Damage (for example) by several sources (like 2 fire bombs), It will apply only the major damage or sum these Persistent Damage at every turn?
(Sorry for the eventual grammar errors).
Thanks!
Only the single largest source of the damage will apply.
wait, why roll 2d6 for the persistent damage if you crit? I thought you roll as per normal (1d6 in this case) and just double the result?
Only because the book specifically calls out this exception for persistent damage. I think it was just an editing error. You'd be fine rolling 1d6 and doubling.
@@HowItsPlayed cool. Thanks!
I'm sorry, where do we see that Persistent Damage is doubled on a crit?
It's hidden pretty well. But on page 544 in the description of the Splash trait there is an example using an acid flask that says on a hit it deals 1d6 persistent damage but on a critical hit it would deal 2d6 persistent damage.
@@HowItsPlayed Some spells, including Acid Arrow, says that persistent damage is not doubled on a critical.
@@HowItsPlayed Anytime I read that damage is doubled, I assume x2, not an extra die. That seems oddly inconsistent.
But...why is doubled? Is there a pattern or is it just arbitrary? I love 2E so far but if this is another exception, there are far too many...
Are you referring to the critical hit with persistent damage? Damage from critical hits is typically doubled.
@@HowItsPlayed Hi! Thank you for all the content btw. Correct - I’m trying to find a pattern and it feels like you just have to remember how certain rules are applied. why is the persistent damage doubled? Does it follow the rule that ALL damage that occurs on a regular hit doubles? Why doesn’t splash double then?
(EDIT: Sorry - I realized I posted on the wrong video. This was suppose to be in response to the rules reminder video about persistent damage doubling up. I realized the confusion...)
@@jonathanng7798 That's a good point... Splash damage is a bit of a special case. I think the reason why Splash damage doesn't double on a critical hit is because it's automatic damage to everyone within the splash area. As long as you do not critically fail the attack roll, then all creatures adjacent to you target suffer the splash damage. Those creatures do not get a chance to roll a saving throw and you do not need to roll multiple attack rolls. Instead, the damage is automatic. I think this was probably done to speed up the game and not require a bunch of saving throws to be rolled when the splash damage is typically very low.
The Undead tag says that they are healed by negative energies. Shouldn't that also include negative damages?
"Precision damage" sounds more like a buff rather than damage. Why isn't it called "Precision buff"?
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If you use alchemist fire and then the next round acid flask does that stack?