做好心理准备 puts more weight towards preparing for potential emotional toll 做好思想准备 puts more emphasis on being mentally prepared (being strategic about thinking)
3 месяца назад
I recommend the chinese version "Three body" produced by Tencent Video.
@@johannaweichsel3602 netflix must have something against the chinese species of carps, because they did the exact same thing in a series called "Russian Doll"! I'm glad to see i'm not the only one that noticed this absurdity!!!!
I suggest people to look up Rotren Mango’s explanation behind the scenes of how the 3 Body Problem universe even came to be (as a Hollywood/Chinese powerhouse) and you’ll see how easily and quickly such delicate and intricate and culturally rich topics can and will get diluted into a “More Worldly” story.
A lot of shit went on behind the scenes and a lot of illegal stuff but even so, the treatment of the series by the industry is blatant cash grabbing. It is a series that fully deserves its story developed into a movie series, tv show, whatever content the creator wished. It’s always a shame to see OC get crushed by financial opportunity
For me the Netflix version felt really rushed, watered down and poorly written / directed in spite of its crazy budget. I really recommend the Tencent drama that came out last year, obviously the budget was much smaller but it really had the heavy and slow vibe of the original book.
In many ways, the Netflix version is better and more authentic than the Tencent version, which changed things from the original story either through censorship (the Cultural Revolution scenes at the beginning of the story) or by adding frivolous details which changed the story's meaning (like making the people on Judgement Day baby-killing terrorist mercenaries.)
@@hoos3014 I don’t remember the book characterizing anything from the Judgement Day people. On that front the Netflix seemed much more « frivolous », bringing the whole school to the mix, it felt really clumsy and unnecessary. Also the scene has zero tension in netflix and expedited in 10 min. The Tencent has a whole episode build up around it, much better execution. As for 文化大革命 time, I’m not sure if you’re aware the original novel doesn’t mention it explicitly until much later in the book. That’s self censorship from the author alright, but that’s what he wrote, that’s the version the Chinese audience knows. They pushed that part in the English translation because Westerners don’t know that period well, for Chinese people it’s obvious you don’t need to teach them what happened then, can be a little more subtle…
@@julienvincenot7974 Both shows added context to the Judgment Day scene. Netflix added a moral dilemma by putting families on the boat while Tencent removed a moral dilemma by putting blood thirsty killers on it. Which choice supports themes of the overall story ("If I destroy you, what business is it of yours?") and the protagonist's (Wang/Auggie) development better? I think the choice is pretty clear, but people can disagree. In the novel, Liu Cixin wanted the CR scenes to open the story. They were pushed to the middle of book in the Chinese print to avoid the wandering eyes of the censors.
Have you read all 3 books and Redemption of Time? I ask because that seems to be the argument for a lot of people who prefer the Tencent version. Which I'd understand if you've only read the first book, but I actually really enjoyed the creative liberties D&D took in setting things up for the 2nd and 3rd books. Obviously any Sci-Fi book fan would always prefer much much science and meat, so I can see how people may be drawn to Tencents nearly 1:1 adaptation, but I think Netflix did what they sought out to do fairly well; which is deliver a western adaption of the entire Remembrance of Earths Past, not just the first book. It's not perfect. For example. there are some concerning plot holes around Sophon's capabilities, but it's too early to see if they adapt for it. And I agree on it feeling rushed at times, 10-12 episodes would have been perfect considering they're introducing characters, storylines, and concepts from books 2&3.
@@innxs I don’t really care for 1:1 exact adaptations and all the science details. I read the first two books and half of the third. The second is actually my favorite, and I actually enjoyed a little more the sneak peak into the Wallfacer stuff in the end of the Netflix. BUT as I said for me it felt terribly rushed (and vulgar to some extent), I missed the heaviness of the books which I found only in the Tencent. It’s really a matter of sensation, which was most of what I had still in mind since I saw the Tencent few years after reading.
Ironic how the speaker mentions that she enjoyed it because most sci-fi is Western-centric, yet the Netflix adaptation of a Chinese novel... was made to be Western-centric. From Wikipedia: "[Chinese] Viewers criticised the racebending and gender swapping of several protagonists, cultural appropriation, as well as the "dumbing-down" of concepts to appeal to non-Chinese audiences." In other words, the current state of "entertainment" in the West. As always, go back to the source material and read the actual book before it's corrupted, watered down and repackaged ideologically for mass consumption.
Check out the blog post for all the examples: blog.skritter.com/2024/05/the-3-body-problem/
做好心理准备 puts more weight towards preparing for potential emotional toll
做好思想准备 puts more emphasis on being mentally prepared (being strategic about thinking)
I recommend the chinese version "Three body" produced by Tencent Video.
In Malaysia, 管你的屁 is what we learned.
how come noone will complain abt the goldfish being raised without a proper aquarium in the very least.!!! loved the video!
Yeah, would it kill them to get a proper tank and filter??
@@johannaweichsel3602 netflix must have something against the chinese species of carps, because they did the exact same thing in a series called "Russian Doll"! I'm glad to see i'm not the only one that noticed this absurdity!!!!
I suggest people to look up Rotren Mango’s explanation behind the scenes of how the 3 Body Problem universe even came to be (as a Hollywood/Chinese powerhouse) and you’ll see how easily and quickly such delicate and intricate and culturally rich topics can and will get diluted into a “More Worldly” story.
A lot of shit went on behind the scenes and a lot of illegal stuff but even so, the treatment of the series by the industry is blatant cash grabbing.
It is a series that fully deserves its story developed into a movie series, tv show, whatever content the creator wished. It’s always a shame to see OC get crushed by financial opportunity
Some of the Chinese sentences when Ye Wenjie was messaging the San-Ti seemed a bit stilted. eg “到这里来吧。我们的文明已无法自救。我将帮助你们获得这个世界。‘
For me the Netflix version felt really rushed, watered down and poorly written / directed in spite of its crazy budget. I really recommend the Tencent drama that came out last year, obviously the budget was much smaller but it really had the heavy and slow vibe of the original book.
In many ways, the Netflix version is better and more authentic than the Tencent version, which changed things from the original story either through censorship (the Cultural Revolution scenes at the beginning of the story) or by adding frivolous details which changed the story's meaning (like making the people on Judgement Day baby-killing terrorist mercenaries.)
@@hoos3014 I don’t remember the book characterizing anything from the Judgement Day people. On that front the Netflix seemed much more « frivolous », bringing the whole school to the mix, it felt really clumsy and unnecessary. Also the scene has zero tension in netflix and expedited in 10 min. The Tencent has a whole episode build up around it, much better execution.
As for 文化大革命 time, I’m not sure if you’re aware the original novel doesn’t mention it explicitly until much later in the book. That’s self censorship from the author alright, but that’s what he wrote, that’s the version the Chinese audience knows. They pushed that part in the English translation because Westerners don’t know that period well, for Chinese people it’s obvious you don’t need to teach them what happened then, can be a little more subtle…
@@julienvincenot7974 Both shows added context to the Judgment Day scene. Netflix added a moral dilemma by putting families on the boat while Tencent removed a moral dilemma by putting blood thirsty killers on it. Which choice supports themes of the overall story ("If I destroy you, what business is it of yours?") and the protagonist's (Wang/Auggie) development better? I think the choice is pretty clear, but people can disagree.
In the novel, Liu Cixin wanted the CR scenes to open the story. They were pushed to the middle of book in the Chinese print to avoid the wandering eyes of the censors.
Have you read all 3 books and Redemption of Time? I ask because that seems to be the argument for a lot of people who prefer the Tencent version. Which I'd understand if you've only read the first book, but I actually really enjoyed the creative liberties D&D took in setting things up for the 2nd and 3rd books. Obviously any Sci-Fi book fan would always prefer much much science and meat, so I can see how people may be drawn to Tencents nearly 1:1 adaptation, but I think Netflix did what they sought out to do fairly well; which is deliver a western adaption of the entire Remembrance of Earths Past, not just the first book.
It's not perfect. For example. there are some concerning plot holes around Sophon's capabilities, but it's too early to see if they adapt for it. And I agree on it feeling rushed at times, 10-12 episodes would have been perfect considering they're introducing characters, storylines, and concepts from books 2&3.
@@innxs I don’t really care for 1:1 exact adaptations and all the science details. I read the first two books and half of the third. The second is actually my favorite, and I actually enjoyed a little more the sneak peak into the Wallfacer stuff in the end of the Netflix. BUT as I said for me it felt terribly rushed (and vulgar to some extent), I missed the heaviness of the books which I found only in the Tencent. It’s really a matter of sensation, which was most of what I had still in mind since I saw the Tencent few years after reading.
Ironic how the speaker mentions that she enjoyed it because most sci-fi is Western-centric, yet the Netflix adaptation of a Chinese novel... was made to be Western-centric. From Wikipedia: "[Chinese] Viewers criticised the racebending and gender swapping of several protagonists, cultural appropriation, as well as the "dumbing-down" of concepts to appeal to non-Chinese audiences." In other words, the current state of "entertainment" in the West. As always, go back to the source material and read the actual book before it's corrupted, watered down and repackaged ideologically for mass consumption.