Neo Matrix one simple step against those small unusable rooms would be to introduce a law that rooms have to be a minimum size in order to be sold as rooms... that would stop the cramming as much flats out of one space as possible...
@@JeremyGreysmark Ye it's a good point. I 100% agree. Some of the rooms I have seen in some places shouldn't be allowed to be called rooms. More like a storage cupboard. If you put a bed in there is no space for a wardrobe.
This is great . I’m in the trade , and I know that to build a house for one of the main house builders costs them about 50k per plot . They then flog them on at half a million . This self build option is the only way forward if you don’t want to be in dept for the rest of your life . But be warned the money men won’t like it .
It might cost them 50k to build a house but the plot could cost 350-400k. If we take out the cost of land out of equation there is absolutely no way you can build a 500k house for 50k, not even if you use "imported" labour.
If I may give you an example . A farmer sells two fields to a house builder for 2m . They then build three hundred Holmes on that land and sell each plot ( home ) for 500k . There return is huge . Have a look at the yearly profits of sat Barretts or persimmon homes .
@@garyblackwell7246 I live in Southampton area which is relatively cheap compared to the rest of the South and I've been working in the property development for a few years now. I've been involved in projects where land was brought from the farmers and houses priced between 500k and 700k were built on it. But those developments were rather small - 15 to 20 houses. This is why these houses are expensive - there are few of them and they are located in a picturesque countryside. I fail to see why anyone would splash out 500k on a house which was cramped into an English cookie cutter community.
You can do it. The system is that you need to provide adequate details and information for approval. I inspect building works on many projects, some new build aswell. Habitat for humanity ran a similar project in peckham about 10 years ago. I've since inspected a few smaller self builds.
C S It’s defiantly possible but not the the vast majority, probably why you have said a few, but I guess land is quite scarce in the UK as it is an island so there is some benefit to it. In most European countries it’s actually cheaper to build a house than the price it is to buy one in the UK. These laws mean that the house market is stable and profitable but far from affordable
in other Countries we have the same problem but in Brasil we can Build out of the Big Cities,people whom live in favelas are stupid...no logical thinking.....
having worked as an apprentice plumber I have to say materials are so cheap, after charging the client, all the taxes involved and land prices I see why no one can afford to buy a house.
@@drewdacat Exactly. Nuance is just political correctness gone mad, mate. Hong Kong ain't nothing to do with the British. Never has been. Anyway, best be off; me, baz, nige and moggsy are off to play wiff waff.
Ain t no surprise one of them buisness people owning my towns towncentre (mall) began charging more than for a shop in Glasgow I mean its Eastkilbride get a look on reality.
If you have pest issues like termites, roaches and rodents, paper insulation is a horrible choice. I grew up in a Victorian row house in Canada that was chock full of termite issues and had paper insulation. It's not the best insulater to begin with and when pests have nested it's worse. It is not much for sound insulation either.
So, back to self-building ... My grandfather and four other owners built the building in which we currently live in. Even today, it withstands the standards for domestic buildings. My grandfather was very futuristic in his time. It seems like these times are coming back ... ?
What about PREFABS? They're easier to build and more efficient you can create your own modules and have them stacked in the exact way as the plans demonstrate
Every home should include the principles of Earthship biotecture, being a self sustaining eco friendly cycle. Then mass waste and pollution is reduced or even reversed.
Build your own but this guy's talking about shared ownership and shared equity schemes... Sounds like the developer has found a way of exploiting some free labour while still owning the same share of the property they would have to begin with that when the time comes to cash in would still come close to market value that will benefit the developer. And yes, you can build cheaper if you're allowed to build things that would normally be declined planning permission. The solution is to reduce planning restrictions!
@@vincentdeguard4726 yeah. we could also fill in the grasslands next to railway lines with lots of tall blocks of flats to help ease the housing shortage.
They're not made to be sold, that's why they're not going to cost anywhere near as much for the people that live in them. Building your own and spreading the cost of land and materials with a larger group doing the same is a great model for good quality purpose built bespoke housing that'll be better value than anything anyone could buy on the market.
Hmm, where i live, housing is crazy expensive too, but you can get a tolerable deal when you buy a "modular house" that is pre build in a factory. For about 100 000$ you get a house with 2 bedrooms(50k for the house/materials, another that much for labor + land + transport etc ) Still cheaper than buying an apartment( new ones are are around 400 000$ which is insane...it would take me more than 2-3 lifetimes to save that much ) My father built a house from scratch with 30k $. And a relative of mine won 40k with lottery + added another 10-20 k and built a really large house( 2 story house with lots of open space ). If you know how to build yourself then construction gets really cheap.
@@TheReddances You can buy them online...just search for modular house or "element house"...etc. They are houses pre-built in factories with all the walls/insulation/etc in place and you assemble it like a leggo. You can change the size/shape of rooms etc. If you are willing to do the assembly yourself...+ lay the foundation then you can get the house for around 45k $
Fantastic! Sound community principles, coupled with excellent modern and effective building techniques, and most significantly a realistic architectural input resulting in delightful looking house, not the usual bland or even ugly wannabee historical lumps of brick and concrete that are usually put up.
Love this idea :D . I too believe that a home should change as the needs of the owner changes, rather than spending a lot of money buying some where else that meets that need.
Bravo! This is a fantastic opportunity for those seeking and financially prepared to create an intentional community within a city. Woohoo, I want to volunteer! I wonder if the council provides any incentives to volunteers toward the sales in the next estate location's borough council. Anyone here know, please? :) If so, are there quotas regarding sex and ethnocultural/racial heritage, as in the U.S.A., when it comes to contracts that involve government? I grew up working (forced child labour, mind you) in construction: operator engineering/heavy machine operation, excavating, labouring, concrete, paving, pond and landscaping, hauling/trucking, low-cost solar panel building, surveying/estimating, organic farming.
Not correct. Timber frame housing is markedly superior in most respects to traditional UK house building techniques. Timber frame offers much reduced running and maintenance costs. I know, I've owned and developed traditional buildings aged from 1850 to date, and a timber framed house for well over 10 years, so I know what I am talking about. Timber framed houses are engineered and therefore do what they are supposed to do, as opposed to houses built from bits of mud pulled out of the ground, even those turned into bricks.
I think it genial to help each other build family homes ..certainly not a new concept..from beginning of times people has done just that..back to basics..history repeating itself..learning from, acknowledging the efforts of, our descendants..matter of sharing our knowledge in making new, energy efficient homes to last several lifetimes ..moi, Canada 🇨🇦
“They will be high quality and energy efficient” Put together by people who don’t have a scooby. “They’ll be doing wiring” where are you going to find someone daft enough to sign that off? Guess they’re expecting to pay 200k without a mortgage? Who’d want to lend on that
Well the Walter Segal self builds between Honor Oak and Peckham come up for sale every now and then, and I've never seen any of them struggle to sell. Must work somehow, some of them are £600K+ now.
There would be no problem with old ones. Haven’t had retrospective regs in years. To put it in a better known concept, you can buy an old property full of products containing asbestos flooring, insulation, wall coatings, fire boards etc. But can’t build a property with any asbestos products. You can’t build like they did in the 80s.
People are sick of these builder companies building cheap poor quality housing and ripping people off with leasehold.
Neo Matrix one simple step against those small unusable rooms would be to introduce a law that rooms have to be a minimum size in order to be sold as rooms... that would stop the cramming as much flats out of one space as possible...
@@JeremyGreysmark Ye it's a good point. I 100% agree. Some of the rooms I have seen in some places shouldn't be allowed to be called rooms. More like a storage cupboard. If you put a bed in there is no space for a wardrobe.
@@goodcat1982 Where did I even say I bought or own a house? Just because you have issues don't come here on RUclips acting like a 5 year old..
Can I borrow... a spewn?
salad fingers
This is great . I’m in the trade , and I know that to build a house for one of the main house builders costs them about 50k per plot . They then flog them on at half a million .
This self build option is the only way forward if you don’t want to be in dept for the rest of your life . But be warned the money men won’t like it .
It might cost them 50k to build a house but the plot could cost 350-400k. If we take out the cost of land out of equation there is absolutely no way you can build a 500k house for 50k, not even if you use "imported" labour.
If I may give you an example . A farmer sells two fields to a house builder for 2m . They then build three hundred Holmes on that land and sell each plot ( home ) for 500k . There return is huge . Have a look at the yearly profits of sat Barretts or persimmon homes .
@@rayt5520 bit racist but i understand your point
@@rayt5520There are a lot of lazy brits too. If there wasn't, there would be hardly any jobs for foreigners.
@@garyblackwell7246 I live in Southampton area which is relatively cheap compared to the rest of the South and I've been working in the property development for a few years now. I've been involved in projects where land was brought from the farmers and houses priced between 500k and 700k were built on it. But those developments were rather small - 15 to 20 houses. This is why these houses are expensive - there are few of them and they are located in a picturesque countryside. I fail to see why anyone would splash out 500k on a house which was cramped into an English cookie cutter community.
It's inadvisable to leave a large quantity of timber unattended in Lewisham.
Bam then its gone
...some may say in Lewisham it inadvisable to be
Even a mediocre to 'meh' sized pile
People build their own houses all over the world, unfortunately the laws in the UK make that difficult
You can do it. The system is that you need to provide adequate details and information for approval. I inspect building works on many projects, some new build aswell. Habitat for humanity ran a similar project in peckham about 10 years ago. I've since inspected a few smaller self builds.
C S It’s defiantly possible but not the the vast majority, probably why you have said a few, but I guess land is quite scarce in the UK as it is an island so there is some benefit to it. In most European countries it’s actually cheaper to build a house than the price it is to buy one in the UK. These laws mean that the house market is stable and profitable but far from affordable
in other Countries we have the same problem but in Brasil we can Build out of the Big Cities,people whom live in favelas are stupid...no logical thinking.....
having worked as an apprentice plumber I have to say materials are so cheap, after charging the client, all the taxes involved and land prices I see why no one can afford to buy a house.
exactly. lots of factors not just greed or capitalism.
The problem is everything is centralized in London, why can't corporations set up their hubs in other cities?
exactlyyyyyyy
Because of shortages of skilled and educated workers outside London
Truly inspiring. This is exactly what the UK needs...and urgently!
probably better quality than most of the UK's homes.
Until land prices so crazy, and there is such scarcity that councils do lottery who to give the mortgage, all of this will keep creating more misery.
Maybe not even supermarkets but offshore investors own most of the land. This unregulated market is insane for me.
London, The only place in Europe were a Car Garage can cost up to £250,000 ffs
And even that's the Europeans' fault.
...right? ...Nigel?
Tom Riddle Lmao.
Hong Kong and Tokyo are the same
@@drewdacat Exactly. Nuance is just political correctness gone mad, mate. Hong Kong ain't nothing to do with the British. Never has been. Anyway, best be off; me, baz, nige and moggsy are off to play wiff waff.
Ain t no surprise one of them buisness people owning my towns towncentre (mall) began charging more than for a shop in Glasgow I mean its Eastkilbride get a look on reality.
Wood walls and paper insulation, isn’t this a crazy fire hazard?
Correct me if I’m wrong
Davido Star isnt that what led to the great fire of London 😳
Most American homes are built this way. Health and safety gone mad
If you have pest issues like termites, roaches and rodents, paper insulation is a horrible choice. I grew up in a Victorian row house in Canada that was chock full of termite issues and had paper insulation. It's not the best insulater to begin with and when pests have nested it's worse. It is not much for sound insulation either.
@@tmdavidson1478 should build a better foundation. Bit of stainless steel will help to and last a lifetime
Just look how the Swiss do it
The presenter of this is fantastic, BBC we should see more of this quality personal. Thank You.
So, back to self-building ... My grandfather and four other owners built the building in which we currently live in. Even today, it withstands the standards for domestic buildings. My grandfather was very futuristic in his time. It seems like these times are coming back ... ?
Why only Londoners I d like to do that in Scotland what are my legal and cash requirements?
What about PREFABS? They're easier to build and more efficient you can create your own modules and have them stacked in the exact way as the plans demonstrate
Every home should include the principles of Earthship biotecture, being a self sustaining eco friendly cycle. Then mass waste and pollution is reduced or even reversed.
Build your own but this guy's talking about shared ownership and shared equity schemes... Sounds like the developer has found a way of exploiting some free labour while still owning the same share of the property they would have to begin with that when the time comes to cash in would still come close to market value that will benefit the developer. And yes, you can build cheaper if you're allowed to build things that would normally be declined planning permission. The solution is to reduce planning restrictions!
@@420......... that actually happened live on TV you know. A farmer killed a council planning officer live on air.
@@420......... yeah things are quite different here in the UK
Are they planning to have the self built house insured? Would the houses pass UK standard housing certification? Seems like a waste of time.
Can this folder be found somewhere?
How selfish there are builders out there who want to be multi-millionaires,are you going to take their dream away.
Lol name me a builder who can make that kinda money. And I'm not talking about those huge construction corporations
@@intellectualhybrid2 self employed self builders.
@@ollielife1 yea with the plain white vans? I bet.
I don't trust myself building my own house
I like this. The other option is to buy some tiny, over-priced, and ugly house by Barratt “Homes”
...better still leave London
Vincent de Guard so you can buy a tiny over priced Barrett home some where else in England?
Moving to the country side is a dream for me. Less air pollution and ill be able to make my dream house at a lower cost.
@Carrie Perkins ...whilst not keen on the idea; i would prefer a tiny overpriced home somewhere else.
Vincent de Guard ah! Yeah fair enough. I’m no lover of London (other than a visit) neither 😀
so its pretty much the same as what they did on Grand Designs in 2001 in Birmingham I think it was.
yes...rehashing of an old idea. in truth need far larger radical thinking to solve the "housing crisis".
@@vincentdeguard4726 yeah. we could also fill in the grasslands next to railway lines with lots of tall blocks of flats to help ease the housing shortage.
Do you mean Brighton? Hedgehog Housing Cooperative?
...hedgehogs got a housing cooperative in Brighton? ...my-o-my Brighton really is a progressive district
Houses that nobody can buy brilliant..
They're not made to be sold, that's why they're not going to cost anywhere near as much for the people that live in them.
Building your own and spreading the cost of land and materials with a larger group doing the same is a great model for good quality purpose built bespoke housing that'll be better value than anything anyone could buy on the market.
Hmm, where i live, housing is crazy expensive too, but you can get a tolerable deal when you buy a "modular house" that is pre build in a factory.
For about 100 000$ you get a house with 2 bedrooms(50k for the house/materials, another that much for labor + land + transport etc )
Still cheaper than buying an apartment( new ones are are around 400 000$ which is insane...it would take me more than 2-3 lifetimes to save that much )
My father built a house from scratch with 30k $.
And a relative of mine won 40k with lottery + added another 10-20 k and built a really large house( 2 story house with lots of open space ).
If you know how to build yourself then construction gets really cheap.
How do you get a "modular house?" First I have heard of them.
@@TheReddances You can buy them online...just search for modular house or "element house"...etc. They are houses pre-built in factories with all the walls/insulation/etc in place and you assemble it like a leggo.
You can change the size/shape of rooms etc.
If you are willing to do the assembly yourself...+ lay the foundation then you can get the house for around 45k $
200k is still not affordable for the poor, why not earthships or another form of low cost sustainable housing?
Space, not much of it
How about a tent? It's low cost and you don't need much space for it.
@@samanthahardy9903 can't put tents on top of each other
Cool, but its just to little to late for most of us. I will be taking matters into my own hands and live in a truck :)
Fantastic! Sound community principles, coupled with excellent modern and effective building techniques, and most significantly a realistic architectural input resulting in delightful looking house, not the usual bland or even ugly wannabee historical lumps of brick and concrete that are usually put up.
I'm going to take a gander and answer the title before I watch it. More cost effective.
Brilliant idea!!! thats a solution to all these developers. I would like to take a part in something like this!!! Awesome!!! Great Idea Brits!!!
Londoners have been DIY'ing home improvement since the blitz.
Great idea!
Love this idea :D . I too believe that a home should change as the needs of the owner changes, rather than spending a lot of money buying some where else that meets that need.
Yes very much! Love it to!
As long it within regulation.
we’ve always built our own homes here so I didnt get this at first.
Little things like wiring 😲
I'm good I don't want to drop a hot iron and 1 second later my house is on fire.
🔥🔥🔥😂🤣😅🤓
I need this 😩 Whats the catch?
You had to do it yourselves and if it fall down You had to blame yourselves.
Leased land
Giving people a chance to do plumbing and electricity? What a great idea!
Bravo! This is a fantastic opportunity for those seeking and financially prepared to create an intentional community within a city. Woohoo, I want to volunteer! I wonder if the council provides any incentives to volunteers toward the sales in the next estate location's borough council. Anyone here know, please? :) If so, are there quotas regarding sex and ethnocultural/racial heritage, as in the U.S.A., when it comes to contracts that involve government?
I grew up working (forced child labour, mind you) in construction: operator engineering/heavy machine operation, excavating, labouring, concrete, paving, pond and landscaping, hauling/trucking, low-cost solar panel building, surveying/estimating, organic farming.
its like IKEA furniture
Yea ... build wood houses in London where the moisture will rot them in a couple of years ...
Not correct. Timber frame housing is markedly superior in most respects to traditional UK house building techniques. Timber frame offers much reduced running and maintenance costs. I know, I've owned and developed traditional buildings aged from 1850 to date, and a timber framed house for well over 10 years, so I know what I am talking about. Timber framed houses are engineered and therefore do what they are supposed to do, as opposed to houses built from bits of mud pulled out of the ground, even those turned into bricks.
@@miked1948 Thanx for the info :)
33 homes, a typical Mas0nic number.
@@jgt_ I just speak truth, something that scares the life out of shills like you. Move along.
@@jgt_ Christ you're dumb. It's about numerology and symbolism.
@@StopMediaFakery AHHHH! 33 HOMES!! AHHHHHH!
They should ban bookies,Tesco’s and chicken shops and convert all
Those crappy shops into affordable housing.
That is the best thing to do,Build your won houses,just like the old times........Come on Eileen....
I think it genial to help each other build family homes ..certainly not a new concept..from beginning of times people has done just that..back to basics..history repeating itself..learning from, acknowledging the efforts of, our descendants..matter of sharing our knowledge in making new, energy efficient homes to last several lifetimes ..moi, Canada 🇨🇦
Why do most British homes have the same boring aesthetics?
Not bad. Not a fan of the design.
Londoners watched to much Grand Design Tv shows, that's the reason why!
I'll just continue living with my parents.
Realising our homes areas looking like wastelands by the year
“They will be high quality and energy efficient”
Put together by people who don’t have a scooby.
“They’ll be doing wiring” where are you going to find someone daft enough to sign that off? Guess they’re expecting to pay 200k without a mortgage? Who’d want to lend on that
Well the Walter Segal self builds between Honor Oak and Peckham come up for sale every now and then, and I've never seen any of them struggle to sell. Must work somehow, some of them are £600K+ now.
What a foolish thing to say.
There would be no problem with old ones. Haven’t had retrospective regs in years. To put it in a better known concept, you can buy an old property full of products containing asbestos flooring, insulation, wall coatings, fire boards etc. But can’t build a property with any asbestos products. You can’t build like they did in the 80s.
1:42 :)!
Use old clothes and fabrics for installation, it's eco-friendly and cheap.
Need homes for all the immigrants flowing in from the middle east.
It's much easier to bury your head in the sand isn't it Hamilton? Confrontation & unpalatable realities are uncomfortable.
@@bw4500 hamilton is actually mohammed in disguised. Lol
Brexit
Soon to be India 😂😂😂
Looking at the design of house, what an eye sore!