I bet those guys are thinking if only. Mike Ritlands podcast has Clint Emerson talking about getting taped naked 69 in the cold. THEN getting their ass electro shocked to smother their faces with junk. oh the horror! lol
Remember hazing an Airborne Lt. fresh out of West Point. He made the mistake of zipping his bag all the way up, a big nono. We duct taped him to his cot and had his weapon, just a bunch of dumb mechanics and machinists, good times at Reforger :)
Yep, as the old saying goes. "We have one mouth, but two ears, so you should listen twice as much as you should speak" I don't know who said it first, but they were correct. Another saying I'm fond of: "Better to be silent and thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt" Abe Lincoln....I think. But I agree. Sit back and take it all in. You don't have to adopt the same way of thinking or doing as others, but rather be open to it. Take what you find valuable and use it, and disregard the stuff you don't.
Opening quote from C J Chiver’s book “ The Fighters, Americans in combat” ....” America is not at war. The Marine Corp is at war. America is at the mall”
I'm just a Swat cop. From the Marines.....these dudes are special. When I got that mp5 in my hands? I had no idea. 2 am on the Swat truck, really taught me what they are saying. I had no idea. None..... First time I had the shotgun to somebody's face....I was scared as shit..but then you "get in" and really start moving, and the missions come. SEALS, Berets, Rangers .....you guys are a special breed. Thank you.
LOL on the ‘not knowing anything.’ I felt the same way on graduating with my Ph.D. I realized I knew just a little bit about one specific thing and that a huge world of research journals existed that I had never read.
Modern day heroes just chit chatting away. How awesome is this? I would give anything if this tech was available to listen to my grandfather talk with his naval buddies back in the day.
Andy's statement about the time it takes to start to know what's going on when in the service is true across the board. This isn't about mastery of any subject matters involved in one's military schools, but an overall sense of the works. In the past, I have also mentioned to people that it took me 7-8 years before I even started to feel like I knew what was going on. I recall one old Vet remarking "I know all about the military and how it works!" because he served a year in the Army in Vietnam. I replied along the lines that this was remarkable, because I've been in the Navy over 8 years and I still don't know 'all about' the Navy and how it works. There's so much just in one's immediate area of concerns to learn, let alone 'all about' how other sectors operate; supply corps, Submarine corps, Seabee's, medical corps, sealift command, Marine Corps, amphibious commands, aviation squadrons-the list goes on and on.
Love how they all have the same realistic and honest views about their own history and how they went through the exact same thing and in hindsight they love it and it shows here by how much fun they have remembering their time in the Seals.
Only few people stay focused and recall their training along with situation awareness Really glad that SEALS and special forces across the globe 🌎 are committed....
Good stuff Jocko. There seems to be a certain wisdom that comes from serving and being in combat. My dad was a Korean War Medic and I tell you he has a certain wisdom and view of things in life that someone without his experience just could not have.
When I was at BUD/S (class 223) in 98-99 I think there was one guy who had seen combat at the command and that was the old crusty salt Master Chief Dennis Chalker. But even he retired right before we classed up. I'm sure now every SEAL at the command has like at least 4 or 5 combat tours under their belts. My instructors were great at running and swimming. The instructors now are great at WARFARE.
@@harrisonb9911 Nope. There are two things that I NEVER hear anyone talk about BUD/S and they are two big things. One, is the disparity between winter classes and summer classes. Winter classes have about 10 guys left after Hell Week, summer classes it is not unheard of to have over 100 left. The disparity is massive and I was in the coldest winter class ever. The other are injuries. Once BUD/S starts and the masses of jokers who should have never came to BUD/S quit in INDOC then after that the majority of guys leaving (slightly over 50%) is actually due to INJURY and not outright quitting. I was semi-injured, I could have got a class roll since it wasn't that bad, but I just said fuck it I'm outta here since it wasn't like I thought it would be (i joined at 17). So nah I didn't graduate. But tell you what, if you want to know about BUD/S talk to a guy who was just there (whether he made it or not). They will know about about it better than any SEAL since little things change constantly.
The experience level in the teams has to be off the chart these days, with constant war for the last 18 years or so, but I remember back around 1990, some of our guys (in a federal agency) had some SEALs come give us some raid and entry training, and some of it didn't really jive with what we were seeing when doing search warrants on drug dealers and stuff. One particular technique had everyone shaking their heads, and the SEAL teaching it was asked how many times he had done that in a real life scenario, and he shocked everyone, by saying, "Never."
You also have to remember that the view and perspective of a SEAL is different than that of a cop. SEALs aren't cops and they don't do the same job. Obviously what you're talking about has a more limited scope of application and was specific to the task you were going to do. But I'm also sure that calling in an air strike really isn't an option for you. so....yeah.
TideFan Yankee , the point was, these SEALs conducting that training had never done any real operations, but they had run a thousand training missions, but the operational tempo was much slower in that era. It was just entry and clearing training, nothing fancy. And, I know that is not true today at all. They seem to be getting operated to exhaustion the last two decades.
@@ralphholiman7401 "these SEALs conducting that training had never done any real operations".......that you know of, or that they could talk about might be more accurate. There were operations back in the 90's, but they didn't get a lot of press because the guys back then were much more tight lipped about it.
@@cclayne995 it went really well until the government’s reaction to corona happened ... Thanks to the furlough scheme and a 90% drop in sales they closed the business for a few months. During this time I was applying for everything I thought I had a chance at and after 3 months I got a new job. Working much longer hours, bigger commute to/from work, but really grateful to be working again. How are things going for you?
If I look back on what we did in Afghanistan, we made soo many tactical mistakes. At the time I thought I was a well trained Marine. Now I know I was a boy with a gun and a radio... Luckily I read a few books and got some experience and training, and now I am a bit less oblivious.
@@calreeves6755 Apart from a full fysiology/nutrition degree. Gavin Becker - The Gift of Fear Grossman - On Killing / On Combat Rory Steward - The Places in Between *Forgot* - Ordinary Men Carlos Santiago Nino - Radical Evil on Trial. And travelling in South America, working with US SF...
Ayaan Hirsi Ali - Infidel / Nomad Rodolpho Walsh - Operation Massacre Jordan B. Peterson - 12 Rules for Life George Orwell - Animal Farm / 1984 / Road to Wiggan Pier Alexander Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago And I learned Spanish
@@nukkohuits17 Good selection of books there. But I was wondering what on earth did you learn from Ayaan Hirsi Ali's book and how the hell would it help you as a Marine?
@@mustafajimale5569 It helped me understand how wonderfully well managed The Netherlands is, as well as the mindset of most immigrants. And in hindsight it helped me understand what I have seen in Somalia. She is a bit cynical on Islam, but not wrong.
All my neighbor talks about when we have a grill out is, he went through buds, and he’s a seal. He got pissed when I said what Jocko said so you got wet cold, and did some pull-ups 🤣
This was the same for me after going through Subschool in Groton, CT. I thought I knew everything and then I got to my boat and realized I didn't know SHIT!
imo mentally or physically it does not mather what you learn or when you have learned it, in school or on the range, The guys that have been doing it for the longest time, will always be able to teach the new guys more about how it will actually go down in the field or during operations, this also relates to normal working proffessions, but it takes a master to teach them and the person willing to accept it.
Goggins never really faced real combat. He's a SEAL on paper but he lacks the experience of a SEAL. That's probably why Jocko doesn't bring him on the podcast. They wouldn't have much to talk about because they are so different.
One isn’t better than the other. You don’t deploy to combat, you deploy, a million steps in between, then maybe you’ll see combat. It’s two different experiences. Some guys see combat, some don’t in fact most don’t . You don’t always see action when you’re overseas. Goggins understands his mind and has that to offer, so does Jocko. That’s it
I wish I could’ve been in the military; but my mom used drugs the first month or two of pregnancy so I was born handicapped, I hope I can find a way to serve our country in a way that even I can. I wouldn’t mind going out on the field but I would definitely die in service and no I won’t go and lie to them, my limp finger will be obvious the second they see my arms
1975 class 86, again in class 93, alot of the stuff we did was not around in 2008 when my son went through. Mud flats, IBS stroking to and from, O course obstacles removed, I know, who cares...
Man there was a day when I wanted to be these guys (although now I doubt I could have), Life took a different path and then later you realize what it actually means to be part of a war machine. Then someday you realize you don’t want to kill as the opposite, that most war is Geo-political and just begets more war. That you want the world for your own kids to be a better place. I appreciate the sacrifices made by these guys and my family members like them , because other countries are out for their self interest too, and defending yourself and ideals is necessary sometimes. But now I’m glad I’ve never killed another human. like the other veterans of my family who lived it would say; only the sadistic are eager for a fight.
That's very immaculate. You're not sadistic to want to go and fight. Some are sure but if someone comes to your door threatening your way of life it is not sadistic to kill in defense. Do not put the evil doers and the knew defending on the same plate. You have the right to defend yourself when appropriate
@@justinitsthatguyme010 not at putting them on the same plane at all. I just realized that quite often a solider is the guy at someones door (and not defending their own) over geo political nonsense that isn’t defense. Case and point look at Russia. Are the Russian soldiers bad guys (individually), not many of them. But in someone else’s back yard are right now killing civilian bystanders in Ukraine, just follow orders and if you don’t think the same think happens to us solider “defending the motherland” from time to time while feed a line, then sorry but you’ve been brainwashed.
How to know if you also mentaly fit? I want to becom one of the dutch "korps commando troepen" kct, but i want to be prepared. How to know you mentaly fit and strong?
Wow, this is right on the money. Joined the Marines in 76 and went to jump and scuba school before I was twenty. I felt like I knew nothing. The Nam vets who were Gunny's were gods to me and knew so much. I always trying to learn from them. I was a platoon Sgt at twenty one and was worried that if we deployed to a combat theater I was completely ill equipped, tactically. The service was very fucked up in those years after the war ended and was always dealing with some internal fuck-fuck game that real training suffered. Although I had my scuba badge and wings and looked squared away to those who didn't have them, I always felt I was way behind the learning curve and had so much more to learn.
id bet the reason training has improved is due to the fact that overtime wisedom builds and is passed on to the next generation, but most importantly the wisedom is retained and in some ways is a relic/psuedo religious artifact
As someone who’s British I’ve always found it fascinating how you can go straight to SEALs from civvy street. Even the SFSG like 1 Para require two years in 2 or 3 Para and then you still need even more combat experience before you can join the SAS. But I’m assuming the SEALs are like 21 and 23 SAS and SEAL team 6 is like 22 SAS? As I’m sure you need combat experience to be in in SEAL team 6? Is that correct? Also what are criteria for Delta Force? I’m just curious and trying to get a better understanding.
So the "Teams" are divided by Coast, Even East Odd West Coast. Everyone is trained in the west coast, after BUD/s and Qualifications and everything you then graduate and receive your trident. Think of getting into "DEVGRU" aka "ST6" like Delta and SAS, you're only getting into it if you're qualified for it honestly. Delta picks pretty much whoever from whatever branch and etc. In SOCOM (Special Operations Command) You have PJ, ATC, Green Beret, Rangers, SOAR, Delta, SEALs, SWCC, Recon for Marines and something else. Within SOCOM everyone is in a tier system, your 1st Rate Operators being your 1st SFOD (Delta) and "DEVGRU" for SEALs. For Delta they got inspired of the whole SAS Qualifications but they wanted a more refined search so they have selections. The only way into "DEVGRU" and Delta is by standing out from everyone else which is already a hard task to do with the type of people you're pit against. Safest bet for Delta is entering Ranger School or becoming a Green Beret doesn't mean you'll get into Delta but it's a starting point. For the SEALs, not downplaying anything with Delta, GB, or Rangers but you're openly thrown into a group of where they're weeding out the people who doesn't want to be there. They want people to pass but they're not making it easy for you. Back to Delta, if you're be selected for their selections you're probably in a good position in order to pass. Not likely you will pass but you're a step ahead of others.
No, sir, you have a misperception there and you have the wrong idea. SAS is equivalent to a TIER ONE unit in the US Join Special Operations Command. Not a Tier 2 Special Operations Force like a regular SEAL Team. DEVGRU, the Tier One SEAL Team, requires at least 2 combat deployments and is an additional 11 MONTHS of training. In fact the US equivalent of SAS is Army Delta Force. There are missions of DA, foreign internal defense, capture, training indigenous forces, that certainly do NOT always require even more elite DEVGRU or SEAL Team 6 because the targets are not always THAT sensitive nor are always that complicated to engage, which would require a more elite force like Delta or DEVGRU. But someone still has to do the DA and captures and take ships that is far more straightforward and MUCH less sensitive but obviously still requires specific training and is considered special operations.
Ah, so I wasn't the only guy to get "taped up"? Good to know, heh (I was a Pave Low guy, deployed to the Horn of Africa in 2002, along with a platoon from ST3. One night, after some drunken BJJ training - I had a little bit of an advantage from my tournament experience with Greg Jackson in NM - I got taped up and ridiculed by those guys. The pics they sent me later were nice, just me in my shorts, wrapped up and rolling around on some patio in Djibouti. The only sad part (later on) was that Matt Mason was there. Losing him sucked, he was a great dude...)
I've been thinking about joining the navy then becoming a seal. Im about 2 turn 20 years young anyways the only reason i haven't yet is I've had my dog since well all my life. I dont want him 2 die will im not here.
Would you consider to get Tu Lam from ronin tactics! He’s a character I’d love to hear about him on your podcast. His story is far out. Tom Spooner is out there too! #Tom Spooner #Tu Lam
Being the fng on a ship BACK IN THE DAY wasn't easy. Old school Navy was a blast! Even if you were the new guy. Pubic hairs shaved off and then Elmer's glued on your forehead etc. It was tradition. Now.. .. probably not so much.
No, can't say that your story would have been a blast, even for the new guy. And no, pube glueing was NOT a tradition. Sounds like an excuse to be an asshole.
Skills without knowledge and practical experience. Walked into the Engineroom of the first boat I was on in 1986. There was a dude hanging taped up. A couple of the Qualified guys (had their Dolphins) looked at me and said, “you got something to say?” Me: “Nope, gotta go”…and I did.
@@oxide2319 oh no i never did join😂 but i am thinking about joining to become CCT in the air force or SARC in recon to become medic for the force recon marines:) but thank u wondering
What does it mean to get “taped up?” Btw I had an analogous experience when I graduated med school. One day I was a med student. The next day I was a doctor, and I quickly realized that I didn’t know jack shit about actually taking care of sick people. I had a brain crammed full of facts but didn’t feel qualified to prescribe a cough drop.
If there are any real seals in this messaging blog. I’m looking for someone to train me please help I would like to go and try out for Bud’s and live out my dream and at least if I don’t make it I know I at least try it at the end of the day someone help please
Nobody is going to seek you out to spoon-feed you. The introductory-level information is already out there and there are plenty of legit veteran-run businesses that have mil-prep or SPF-prep fitness programs.
"The hazing was pretty good back on the teams then." I'm just imagining Jocko sparking car battery cables.
A bucket of water...some salt....zip ties....and a ball gag. Good times.....good times....
I bet those guys are thinking if only. Mike Ritlands podcast has Clint Emerson talking about getting taped naked 69 in the cold. THEN getting their ass electro shocked to smother their faces with junk. oh the horror! lol
Hi there Sam. I dont wish to sound disrespectful, but more intrigued; are you a real S.E.A.L.?
Remember hazing an Airborne Lt. fresh out of West Point. He made the mistake of zipping his bag all the way up, a big nono.
We duct taped him to his cot and had his weapon, just a bunch of dumb mechanics and machinists, good times at Reforger :)
@@tidefanyankee2428 the good old days.
One of the best pieces of advice to anyone in general, not just new guys -- know when to shut up and open your ears. It will get you far.
Yep, as the old saying goes. "We have one mouth, but two ears, so you should listen twice as much as you should speak" I don't know who said it first, but they were correct. Another saying I'm fond of: "Better to be silent and thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt" Abe Lincoln....I think.
But I agree. Sit back and take it all in. You don't have to adopt the same way of thinking or doing as others, but rather be open to it. Take what you find valuable and use it, and disregard the stuff you don't.
@@tidefanyankee2428 doesn't explain why we have 32 teeth
@@tonydalton939 Exactly.....
@@tidefanyankee2428 teeth is part of mouth.....
@@tonydalton939 You don't say.....
The only time I see Jocko laugh is when he’s with other Seals
Theo von got him a couple times
Joe Rogan makes him laugh too
Theo von podcast they crack up the whole time its pretty awesome
@@MrPittfan95 1
Talking about pain.
The most entertaining part of this is imagining Jocko saying “Welcome to Wendy’s, may I take your order?”.
You don't know anything until you start cleaning your room.
Jordan Peterson taught me how to make my bed everyday
Been to Jordan and bonacci truth school learning, a little mix O tulsi into the conversation "Adendum" so far...
Always have a spare lobster!
Lmao
@@alex-cj9mb No, that was Admiral William H. McRaven. Jordan Peterson teaches you to pet cats and dragons...
Opening quote from C J Chiver’s book “ The Fighters, Americans in combat” ....” America is not at war. The Marine Corp is at war. America is at the mall”
A few Marine General's = Savior Of Mankind
@@scotchsoda3165 Yeah, those that are left over or who survived after the Obama purges of our better military leaders.
@@tidefanyankee2428 Obama was fucking awful. Absolutely awful. Good thing half the country thinks he was an amazing president just for being black 😂
@@ibrahimm.6803 Not as far as the military goes. The DoD was neglected a great deal.
@@ibrahimm.6803 lol what? Have you been living under a rock? Hell the rock itself would know Obama was the worst president in US history
Jocko worked at Wendy's?
Jocko could go there now, and ask for a Big Mac. And they''d give it to him.
clubredken hahaha underrated comment
Customers finish telling him what there order is.... Jocko: check
Dont forget the dramatic pause for effect before “Like I did”
I'm just a Swat cop. From the Marines.....these dudes are special. When I got that mp5 in my hands? I had no idea.
2 am on the Swat truck, really taught me what they are saying. I had no idea. None.....
First time I had the shotgun to somebody's face....I was scared as shit..but then you "get in" and really start moving, and the missions come.
SEALS, Berets, Rangers .....you guys are a special breed. Thank you.
"and you look great with shorts on at the beach.." lolol
LOL on the ‘not knowing anything.’ I felt the same way on graduating with my Ph.D. I realized I knew just a little bit about one specific thing and that a huge world of research journals existed that I had never read.
That realization doesn't come from everyone. There are a lot of "professionals" out there who's arrogance and ego get their asses in trouble.
Modern day heroes just chit chatting away. How awesome is this? I would give anything if this tech was available to listen to my grandfather talk with his naval buddies back in the day.
Imagine this guy taking your order at Wendys... lmao
Would you like some D I S C I P L I N E with that frosty sir?
He probably owns one or a few
"you can run and do pull ups and you look great with shorts on at the beach" - Im in stitches
Andy's statement about the time it takes to start to know what's going on when in the service is true across the board. This isn't about mastery of any subject matters involved in one's military schools, but an overall sense of the works.
In the past, I have also mentioned to people that it took me 7-8 years before I even started to feel like I knew what was going on. I recall one old Vet remarking "I know all about the military and how it works!" because he served a year in the Army in Vietnam.
I replied along the lines that this was remarkable, because I've been in the Navy over 8 years and I still don't know 'all about' the Navy and how it works.
There's so much just in one's immediate area of concerns to learn, let alone 'all about' how other sectors operate; supply corps, Submarine corps, Seabee's, medical corps, sealift command, Marine Corps, amphibious commands, aviation squadrons-the list goes on and on.
Love how they all have the same realistic and honest views about their own history and how they went through the exact same thing and in hindsight they love it and it shows here by how much fun they have remembering their time in the Seals.
Only few people stay focused and recall their training along with situation awareness Really glad that SEALS and special forces across the globe 🌎 are committed....
I love andy . His podcast needs more attention.
The hazing was pretty good in the Teams back then...
Reinforcement, reinforcement....
Legit Gold!!!!
Good stuff Jocko. There seems to be a certain wisdom that comes from serving and being in combat. My dad was a Korean War Medic and I tell you he has a certain wisdom and view of things in life that someone without his experience just could not have.
When I was at BUD/S (class 223) in 98-99 I think there was one guy who had seen combat at the command and that was the old crusty salt Master Chief Dennis Chalker. But even he retired right before we classed up. I'm sure now every SEAL at the command has like at least 4 or 5 combat tours under their belts. My instructors were great at running and swimming. The instructors now are great at WARFARE.
Kevin L did you graduate?
@@harrisonb9911 Nope. There are two things that I NEVER hear anyone talk about BUD/S and they are two big things. One, is the disparity between winter classes and summer classes. Winter classes have about 10 guys left after Hell Week, summer classes it is not unheard of to have over 100 left. The disparity is massive and I was in the coldest winter class ever. The other are injuries. Once BUD/S starts and the masses of jokers who should have never came to BUD/S quit in INDOC then after that the majority of guys leaving (slightly over 50%) is actually due to INJURY and not outright quitting. I was semi-injured, I could have got a class roll since it wasn't that bad, but I just said fuck it I'm outta here since it wasn't like I thought it would be (i joined at 17). So nah I didn't graduate. But tell you what, if you want to know about BUD/S talk to a guy who was just there (whether he made it or not). They will know about about it better than any SEAL since little things change constantly.
The experience level in the teams has to be off the chart these days, with constant war for the last 18 years or so, but I remember back around 1990, some of our guys (in a federal agency) had some SEALs come give us some raid and entry training, and some of it didn't really jive with what we were seeing when doing search warrants on drug dealers and stuff. One particular technique had everyone shaking their heads, and the SEAL teaching it was asked how many times he had done that in a real life scenario, and he shocked everyone, by saying, "Never."
Can't blame the seal
You also have to remember that the view and perspective of a SEAL is different than that of a cop. SEALs aren't cops and they don't do the same job. Obviously what you're talking about has a more limited scope of application and was specific to the task you were going to do. But I'm also sure that calling in an air strike really isn't an option for you. so....yeah.
80s-90s SEALs we’re bored
TideFan Yankee , the point was, these SEALs conducting that training had never done any real operations, but they had run a thousand training missions, but the operational tempo was much slower in that era. It was just entry and clearing training, nothing fancy. And, I know that is not true today at all. They seem to be getting operated to exhaustion the last two decades.
@@ralphholiman7401 "these SEALs conducting that training had never done any real operations".......that you know of, or that they could talk about might be more accurate. There were operations back in the 90's, but they didn't get a lot of press because the guys back then were much more tight lipped about it.
Jocko working at Wendy’s is something that I can’t picture but I love it.
Imagine complaining to him
Stu_Lopher sir they forgot my tomatoes... “GOOD that’s an opportunity to adapt and over come!”
I'm going to be the new guy soon. Starting a new job on Monday.
Good luck! Turn it into a learning experience.
@@maverickmo8976 a brief but friendly youtube exchange is a thing of beauty
@@lurkster1974 🙃i agree friend.
How's the new job going?
@@cclayne995 it went really well until the government’s reaction to corona happened ...
Thanks to the furlough scheme and a 90% drop in sales they closed the business for a few months.
During this time I was applying for everything I thought I had a chance at and after 3 months I got a new job.
Working much longer hours, bigger commute to/from work, but really grateful to be working again.
How are things going for you?
If I look back on what we did in Afghanistan, we made soo many tactical mistakes. At the time I thought I was a well trained Marine. Now I know I was a boy with a gun and a radio... Luckily I read a few books and got some experience and training, and now I am a bit less oblivious.
Do you mind sharing which books you read in particular?
@@calreeves6755 Apart from a full fysiology/nutrition degree.
Gavin Becker - The Gift of Fear
Grossman - On Killing / On Combat
Rory Steward - The Places in Between
*Forgot* - Ordinary Men
Carlos Santiago Nino - Radical Evil on Trial.
And travelling in South America, working with US SF...
Ayaan Hirsi Ali - Infidel / Nomad
Rodolpho Walsh - Operation Massacre
Jordan B. Peterson - 12 Rules for Life
George Orwell - Animal Farm / 1984 / Road to Wiggan Pier
Alexander Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago
And I learned Spanish
@@nukkohuits17 Good selection of books there. But I was wondering what on earth did you learn from Ayaan Hirsi Ali's book and how the hell would it help you as a Marine?
@@mustafajimale5569 It helped me understand how wonderfully well managed The Netherlands is, as well as the mindset of most immigrants. And in hindsight it helped me understand what I have seen in Somalia. She is a bit cynical on Islam, but not wrong.
Can't speak about the "Teams". In the regular Fleet there is no hazing - just a nice trip down to the Bosun's Locker to learn Navy "traditions."
Rum, sodomy, and the lash.
At least it was when I served*
*=I probably didn't serve in the RN.
Awesome to see the story of young Americans become courageous American patriots
Andy is my favorite personality in this "genre".
All my neighbor talks about when we have a grill out is, he went through buds, and he’s a seal. He got pissed when I said what Jocko said so you got wet cold, and did some pull-ups 🤣
Where do you submit questions? If you follow them on social media do you just dm them or is there an email you send it to that I am missing?
I remember seeing guys who finished buds were in my Airborne class. Our black hat was a marine
WHAT ABOUT BEING THE NEW GUY...
WITH SKINNY KNEES????
First read that as “skinny jeans.”
Probably not something you want to be known for among tough guys.. or anyone for that matter.
Dead horse
i just finished watching that yesterday and this comment cracked me up good lmao
I'm wheezing like Jocko in that vid
Andy Stumpf is the man.
Remember that saying " you don't get what you expected you get what you inspected''?
This was the same for me after going through Subschool in Groton, CT. I thought I knew everything and then I got to my boat and realized I didn't know SHIT!
Jocko please make more clips from your podcast
*Echo haha
imo mentally or physically it does not mather what you learn or when you have learned it, in school or on the range, The guys that have been doing it for the longest time, will always be able to teach the new guys more about how it will actually go down in the field or during operations, this also relates to normal working proffessions, but it takes a master to teach them and the person willing to accept it.
Jocko is a true icon
Watching these guys talk about this is fascinating to me.
What happened to your knee Jocko? (it was your knee right?) What are you doing to rest or rehab it?
From MOH: Warfighter? Awesome
the video was so legit that i didn't realized it was in black and white
Respect!!!!
Why wasn’t this longer?
Please have Andy on again
good for you
Jocko laugh has bass effect.
Is Andy from the Snoquialmie Valley? I saw the Dirt Fish Rally hat,and thought I would ask.
Jocko, why you haven't invited David Goggins yet?
Watch the video carefully and you will get your answer.
Goggins never really faced real combat. He's a SEAL on paper but he lacks the experience of a SEAL. That's probably why Jocko doesn't bring him on the podcast. They wouldn't have much to talk about because they are so different.
@@felixf4378 precisely, if they are different they have much to talk, because they can learn too much each other
One isn’t better than the other. You don’t deploy to combat, you deploy, a million steps in between, then maybe you’ll see combat. It’s two different experiences. Some guys see combat, some don’t in fact most don’t . You don’t always see action when you’re overseas. Goggins understands his mind and has that to offer, so does Jocko. That’s it
@The Last Operator what problems?
Jocko could probably thumb wrestle this dude into more torture than any hazing could ever do
I wish I could’ve been in the military; but my mom used drugs the first month or two of pregnancy so I was born handicapped, I hope I can find a way to serve our country in a way that even I can. I wouldn’t mind going out on the field but I would definitely die in service and no I won’t go and lie to them, my limp finger will be obvious the second they see my arms
Firefighter?
1975 class 86, again in class 93, alot of the stuff we did was not around in 2008 when my son went through. Mud flats, IBS stroking to and from, O course obstacles removed, I know, who cares...
Thanks ET for capping the beggers off
Man there was a day when I wanted to be these guys (although now I doubt I could have), Life took a different path and then later you realize what it actually means to be part of a war machine. Then someday you realize you don’t want to kill as the opposite, that most war is Geo-political and just begets more war. That you want the world for your own kids to be a better place. I appreciate the sacrifices made by these guys and my family members like them , because other countries are out for their self interest too, and defending yourself and ideals is necessary sometimes. But now I’m glad I’ve never killed another human. like the other veterans of my family who lived it would say; only the sadistic are eager for a fight.
That's very immaculate. You're not sadistic to want to go and fight. Some are sure but if someone comes to your door threatening your way of life it is not sadistic to kill in defense. Do not put the evil doers and the knew defending on the same plate. You have the right to defend yourself when appropriate
@@justinitsthatguyme010 not at putting them on the same plane at all. I just realized that quite often a solider is the guy at someones door (and not defending their own) over geo political nonsense that isn’t defense. Case and point look at Russia. Are the Russian soldiers bad guys (individually), not many of them. But in someone else’s back yard are right now killing civilian bystanders in Ukraine, just follow orders and if you don’t think the same think happens to us solider “defending the motherland” from time to time while feed a line, then sorry but you’ve been brainwashed.
Praise God
How to know if you also mentaly fit? I want to becom one of the dutch "korps commando troepen" kct, but i want to be prepared. How to know you mentaly fit and strong?
Try to push yourself everyday, for example, when doing exercise if you feel you just can't, just try to push yourself harder and harder.
Good luck man
Wooh, Echo looking jacked?!
Andy talks about that they did there own " trident boards " .anybody knows what hé means ????
Wow, this is right on the money. Joined the Marines in 76 and went to jump and scuba school before I was twenty. I felt like I knew nothing. The Nam vets who were Gunny's were gods to me and knew so much. I always trying to learn from them. I was a platoon Sgt at twenty one and was worried that if we deployed to a combat theater I was completely ill equipped, tactically. The service was very fucked up in those years after the war ended and was always dealing with some internal fuck-fuck game that real training suffered. Although I had my scuba badge and wings and looked squared away to those who didn't have them, I always felt I was way behind the learning curve and had so much more to learn.
I hope your doing better now man
SubCspartan recon?
SubCspartan that’s a better mentality to have rather than the “I know everything” mentality.
@@therock809 STA
SubCspartan ok nice trying to get in the same unit at SOI right now
holyshit he mentioned tape several times. that was something we did on the wrestling team to the younger guys.
Man I miss wrestling haha.
Woah Jim Halpert is looking badass
Jocko @ Wendy's: "Want fries with that, meat?"
lol
I wonder if SEAL hazing has changed after they killed that Green Beret.
id bet the reason training has improved is due to the fact that overtime wisedom builds and is passed on to the next generation, but most importantly the wisedom is retained and in some ways is a relic/psuedo religious artifact
I think it’s so crazy all these videos are in black and white😹😹
3:25 $4.25hr - Who else remembers those days? Checkin!
Psst..want to setup and play beside seals?
As someone who’s British I’ve always found it fascinating how you can go straight to SEALs from civvy street. Even the SFSG like 1 Para require two years in 2 or 3 Para and then you still need even more combat experience before you can join the SAS. But I’m assuming the SEALs are like 21 and 23 SAS and SEAL team 6 is like 22 SAS? As I’m sure you need combat experience to be in in SEAL team 6? Is that correct? Also what are criteria for Delta Force? I’m just curious and trying to get a better understanding.
So the "Teams" are divided by Coast, Even East Odd West Coast. Everyone is trained in the west coast, after BUD/s and Qualifications and everything you then graduate and receive your trident. Think of getting into "DEVGRU" aka "ST6" like Delta and SAS, you're only getting into it if you're qualified for it honestly. Delta picks pretty much whoever from whatever branch and etc. In SOCOM (Special Operations Command) You have PJ, ATC, Green Beret, Rangers, SOAR, Delta, SEALs, SWCC, Recon for Marines and something else. Within SOCOM everyone is in a tier system, your 1st Rate Operators being your 1st SFOD (Delta) and "DEVGRU" for SEALs. For Delta they got inspired of the whole SAS Qualifications but they wanted a more refined search so they have selections. The only way into "DEVGRU" and Delta is by standing out from everyone else which is already a hard task to do with the type of people you're pit against. Safest bet for Delta is entering Ranger School or becoming a Green Beret doesn't mean you'll get into Delta but it's a starting point. For the SEALs, not downplaying anything with Delta, GB, or Rangers but you're openly thrown into a group of where they're weeding out the people who doesn't want to be there. They want people to pass but they're not making it easy for you. Back to Delta, if you're be selected for their selections you're probably in a good position in order to pass. Not likely you will pass but you're a step ahead of others.
No, sir, you have a misperception there and you have the wrong idea. SAS is equivalent to a TIER ONE unit in the US Join Special Operations Command. Not a Tier 2 Special Operations Force like a regular SEAL Team. DEVGRU, the Tier One SEAL Team, requires at least 2 combat deployments and is an additional 11 MONTHS of training. In fact the US equivalent of SAS is Army Delta Force. There are missions of DA, foreign internal defense, capture, training indigenous forces, that certainly do NOT always require even more elite DEVGRU or SEAL Team 6 because the targets are not always THAT sensitive nor are always that complicated to engage, which would require a more elite force like Delta or DEVGRU. But someone still has to do the DA and captures and take ships that is far more straightforward and MUCH less sensitive but obviously still requires specific training and is considered special operations.
"Highly polished souldger" gimeeee a brick lmfaoo
Chris Kyle look him up lol
It must be hard talking bout so much n remember that sme stuff is restricted
And there will always be great instructors now... because humanity is in never ending wars.
Anybody here currently serving in a special operations unit? I'm curious if the hazing has changed at all in recent years.
Matthew Jelinek if they were, they wouldn’t respond
The Last Operator why are you called the last operator when you’re talking and are on RUclips?
i Am SeRvInG iN a SpEcIaL oPeRaTiOnS uNiT
@@ciaranharper2796 that guy's annoying as fuck
The Last Operator that’s literally my point dude
Me and jocko worked at wendys
Jocko,
Can you get Wes Watson on your show, please?
Yes!
Ah, so I wasn't the only guy to get "taped up"? Good to know, heh (I was a Pave Low guy, deployed to the Horn of Africa in 2002, along with a platoon from ST3. One night, after some drunken BJJ training - I had a little bit of an advantage from my tournament experience with Greg Jackson in NM - I got taped up and ridiculed by those guys. The pics they sent me later were nice, just me in my shorts, wrapped up and rolling around on some patio in Djibouti. The only sad part (later on) was that Matt Mason was there. Losing him sucked, he was a great dude...)
Oh very cool! Thanks !!
4:25 an hour at Wendy's. Holly shit, times have changed.
Inflation stuff costs more than it did back then.
Can you get Wes Watson on your podcast ?
I've been thinking about joining the navy then becoming a seal. Im about 2 turn 20 years young anyways the only reason i haven't yet is I've had my dog since well all my life. I dont want him 2 die will im not here.
Would you consider to get Tu Lam from ronin tactics! He’s a character I’d love to hear about him on your podcast. His story is far out. Tom Spooner is out there too!
#Tom Spooner
#Tu Lam
Tu lam would be awesome
David Bury pat McNamara has been on his podcast
nick gagnon yup , that one was Inspirational !!!
4:04 love it
Such a cool nick-name! Jock-strap!!!!! LMFAO!!!!
Andy is so advanced
Being the fng on a ship BACK IN THE DAY wasn't easy. Old school Navy was a blast! Even if you were the new guy. Pubic hairs shaved off and then Elmer's glued on your forehead etc. It was tradition. Now.. .. probably not so much.
No, can't say that your story would have been a blast, even for the new guy. And no, pube glueing was NOT a tradition. Sounds like an excuse to be an asshole.
@@OutdoorShellback Its an excuse to touch the new guy's junk. Car tryst those NAVY guys
I guess the SeALs go through quite a few rolls of tape when a new guy shows up; i think Mr Stumpf mentioned that 3 times in those 5mins...😂
in about any skillful activity it takes about 10 years to reach top of the game.
Skills without knowledge and practical experience.
Walked into the Engineroom of the first boat I was on in 1986. There was a dude hanging taped up. A couple of the Qualified guys (had their Dolphins) looked at me and said, “you got something to say?” Me: “Nope, gotta go”…and I did.
I hope to be on seal team 5
any update? already graduated from buds?
@@oxide2319 oh no i never did join😂 but i am thinking about joining to become CCT in the air force or SARC in recon to become medic for the force recon marines:) but thank u wondering
You get choked out.
Jocko touched on hazing in his Jonny Kim podcast, when you don’t get your balls broke your not liked! So true
It must be basic because some SEALS come in off the street. Therefore you have to run them through this is a bergen, this is a basha and so on.
What does it mean to get “taped up?”
Btw I had an analogous experience when I graduated med school. One day I was a med student. The next day I was a doctor, and I quickly realized that I didn’t know jack shit about actually taking care of sick people. I had a brain crammed full of facts but didn’t feel qualified to prescribe a cough drop.
Dirtfish hat!! Nice
Why does this make me excited to join the military and go through BUDs?
because it doesn't talk about your buddy's head getting a new sun roof installed.
All Special Forces members are my hero’s!
Your new here. Listen to at least four stories before trying to tell one of your own !
Hazing done by Hanna, no doudt, she's...
Doudt
Was Andy in the BUDS doco?
he is in a video where he is smoking the Olympic swim Teamby putting them through a little taste of buds at the actual training facility
@@xObscureMars thank you
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Stump...."soldier"....
What the actual f#ck did he say??!
If there are any real seals in this messaging blog. I’m looking for someone to train me please help I would like to go and try out for Bud’s and live out my dream and at least if I don’t make it I know I at least try it at the end of the day someone help please
Nobody is going to seek you out to spoon-feed you. The introductory-level information is already out there and there are plenty of legit veteran-run businesses that have mil-prep or SPF-prep fitness programs.
FNG - Fucking New Guy 😂
@JockoPodcast 2 regrets 1st not going for the teams.