Joe Louis vs Max Schmeling, II
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- Joe Louis vs Max Schmeling (2nd meeting). Jun. 22, 1938. Yankee Stadium, Bronx, New York, United States.
Джо Луис против Макса Шмелинга (вторая встреча), 22 июня 1938 г., победа Луиса в первом раунде (KO)
Mr. Louis is a totally different fighter the second time around. Really admire Mr. Schmeling also. "Class Acts" 🙏
Actually he did only one thing different. In the first fight Lewis held his left low at his waist. In this fight he held his left at chest level. That took away Schmelling's main weapon, the right cross. In the first fight Schmelling started landing rights in the first round which made Lewis tentative. In this fight Lewis easily blocked the right and countered with his own punches. Schmelling knew right away he was in trouble and began backing up. It was all over at that point.
Joe beat Max like he had stole something. What a turn around from the first fight, Max was laying some gloves on Joe in the first fight.
@@nyobunknown6983YEP!!! That poor defence with the lowly and closely held left hand cos t him the 1st fight....and poor head movement . The left also neutralised Schmeling the rematch.
Louis kept his left hand up this fight and avoided those right hands this fight
A huge fight. Right at the beginning of World War 2. No sporting event will ever duplicate the magnitude of this. With the backdrop of a world war.
well the olympics...
I had a reply that Max threw the fight, to which I say, not a chance in hell. Who would willingly take an onslaught like that?
I'd say Jesse Owens bolting to the gold in the 100, right in front of the face of that smug racist Adolph, in Hitler's Germany, in the Nazi stadium...was probably very close, if not greater, to this in magnitude.
@@DrPacman Max fought this second fight or rematch like a schlubb.
@@aarondigby5054Joe Louis earned that fight and win in all technical manner and right. He knockdown Max til Max was not able to defend himself nomore, although the referree did not count to ten, because the corner of Max Schmeling threw the towel as sign of surrender. Joe was now superior to Max Schmeling abilities, and although Joe corrected his mistake, with his left jab, Max could hit Joe once again with his hard mighty right to the chin, but Joe was better champion, that is obvious.
Our Box hero Max was a real sportsman and not active in politics, nor in nationalsocialism, but always focused in his boxsport and in his hard work to make a living with his wife Anny Ondra. We see it in this and other manner that Schmeling just after enterering the ring, Max went to Louis to greet him friendly and wishing him good luck. Who in the wide box era did that kind of great caracter? Nobody, not even Muhammad Ali, nor Joe nor Sugar Ray. So Max knew certaintly that the country he represented "The Greatgerman Third Reich", back then, was a fascist country, an brutal terrorsystem, with concentration camps (invented by the british) and a threat to the world. Max felt that right on arriving in USA again and by entering the stadion. But now he had to endure the psychological pressure by the people, who hated Hitler Germany, so they hated Max, as a german.
Although Max were never a active Nationalsocialist or active in politics! Right the contrary is the truth, he kept contact to his jewish art friends in USA, to his manager Joe Jacobs, who had to stay away from Germany, and Max defended some jewish friend his two sons, the Levi Brothers. Max was a great personality, his whole life through. We German people loved our only heavyweight boxchampion and his kind manner of behaviour, his braveness and hard living he earned by hard work. And certaintly our grandfathers and family were sitting in front of the "Volksempfänger" Radio, to listen to the Reporters voice, and the sensation that Max beat the undefeated Joe Louis "The Brown Bomberas as he was called, or some said The Negro, but a lot called him just Joe, with respectfulness, knockdown in the fourth round and than knockout in best technical clean fight in round twelve, no fouls of any kind, an example for a clean fight!
Max felt unsatisfied to fight in these politic times again against his later friend Joe Louis, I suppose. And I think he gave the second fight as lost since beginning. I read his own written Biography "Rememberings" The circumstances were really bad for that second fight.
Surely Joe also corrected his technic, his big mistake to let fall his left down, so Max saw the weakpoint and shattered his fast mighty powerful right, as he was a brilliant fighter and a technicall well skilled and educated Boxchampion.
Bad ´that they did not gave Max the fight against james Braddock, Max had earned that but he was not welcome anymore as a german boxchampion of the world again! Not in this situation near World War II.
What a joy to see that Max and Joe became real friends later who visited each other often. Joe Louis was always welcome in Germany!
I would be glad to get to know how the other side of the US Citizen and box friends saw Max Schmeling as a foreign boxer. Please share your views about Max Schmeling.
Lovely greetings to oversea, from Germany!
Man, that was a pretty rough stoppage by today’s standard. When Max was leaning on the ropes, he was done. He only took additional punishment from that point on
By today's standard, the referee would get arrested and possibly be sentenced to life in prison for allowing involuntary manslaughter. Boxers were more hardened and ruthless back then, I don't know if any heavyweight from today's era is capable of climbing to the top 10 ranks back then from 1920's to 1990's.
Very obvious dive, just goes to show how overrated Joe Louis was.
watch foreman and louis on my page and you tell me which era used more angles/fluidity/timing/defense and if you see the same obsolete flaws from the Louis era in 70s-90s
Every person joe fought and himself looks like novices compared
There's a very good movie called Max and Joe which covers their lives and how their fights changed those lives. You should read how beat up Max was. Doctors said it was like he was in a car accident. He had two cracked vertebra! Only thing that kept him on his feet was his determination but it couldn't overcome Joe's power shots.
Max should have spun to his right and stayed on his horse the rest of round one and tied up Joe as much as he could after that, since it was already clear he wasn't going to win.
Perhaps the most important boxing match in American history although “The Fight of the Century” on March the 8th, 1971 was and still is the greatest one day sporting event ever in my opinion. I don’t feel it is necessary to point out whom the combatants were in that historic event.
Damn Joe just stalked him, chopping right hands were just devestating, no way Louis was losing this second fight.
Schmeling came out of his corner leaning back. Look at his right shoulder. No way to get power on his right hand.
Gotta love how they just replay the whole fight in slowmo
Yes it got a little boring.
La historia de max schmeling es increíble! Dos grandes entres los grandes!
Joe Louis hit him in the kidney punch and that hurt schmeling
Totally legal.
Max turned his back. That makes it fair game.
kidney shot
before he grabbed the rope and then two more
Schmiling went all he could and more. So many hard hits to the head. Luky, boxers have no brains, and if there were some with a brain it would quickly be beaten out. People pay to see that. Funny them people.
Not sure why some viewers are trying to diminish Joe Lewis' skills. He dominated Scmeling from the bell and just an unstoppable assault on him. Clean shots everyone! The ref did noting wrong by standards then and standards today. Lewis haters must get over it--Lewis was one of the greatest ever!!
Louis
HERE HERE THE BEST IN HIS DAY
Louis, unlike Jack Johnson was a gentleman ambassador of the sport and a class act. Why would anyone today have hated him?
The one dislike was Hitler's clone in Brazil.
Max was a tough cookie
Fightclup ten gelenler :))
who is speaking at 1:08
Knowing they were friends makes it great
Yes, I agree. Lovely greetings from Germany, from Hamburg, Buxtehude, 15km next to Hollenstedt the village were Max Schmeling used to live after the war with his lovely wife, Anny Ondra.
Tyler Kinsey if you did not see that you must be blind ?
In second fight thing that made difference ...
Joe Louis was fighting to take revenge....
While for Schmeling it was just another match...
Fighting the champion of the world but it was just another match? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Joe badly needed revenge as heavyweight champion. Max had beaten him before and was a former champion. It would be fair to say that Louis fighting on home soil again with all the coverage attached to the rematch was more motivated and in a better fighting frame of mind than Max.
This was the first great boxfight that was bradcasted life on german television
🤣🤣 can you show me a pic of a 1938 tv
@Bruce Banner German's had tvs in the late thirties? Maybe radio.
Wtf does joe have twice the corner men. Fishy.
Max had been deserted by many by this,
That referee was a travesty...giving Schmeling a break wherever he could, then going into some real "look at me" interventions throughout the chaos, holding back Schmeling's people from helping him up. What an ego trip. Must have been disappointed to have had his day cut so short.
i was told he got beat almost to death by joe louis i didnt see that
See the fear in Schmelling's face at 5:10. Louis moves like a viper almost too fast for the camera until 5:30 or so where he starts digging in like a coal miner :-)
lol
+QWERTZ mad respect.... max was a beast ... but JOE????
Louis hit Schmeling in the throat and broke him one vertebrae in the neck, he had to be brought to the hospital in emergency, I believe!
The video doesn't do the fight justice. Joe broke the man's ribs and put him in the hospital for 2 weeks.
Max suffered internal injuries more commonly seen in traffic accidents.
I realy despidw the alphabet groups, WBA, ABO, IBF, WBC, etc.
Clearly a fixed fight. Germany was at war and a win by the German would have boost Nazi morale. So Schmmeling took a dive. Notice how he stood in the corner holding on to the ropes and letting Louis pummel him without a defence.
Did you notice what Lewis was hitting him with, thats why Schmelling was holding the ropes.
He left the ring with fractured vertebrate in his back you think someone takes that much damage for a dive ?? Nonsense 🤣
Schmeling was too honorable of a man
Joe is going to win
I have heard a rumor that Schmeiling took a dive in his second fight with Louis. The fight was sold as an American black vs. a Nazi Aryan superman with Louis being the American favorite.
I dont believe he took a dive. But I can imagine that he was devastated due to the bad press, propaganda and all the death threats. His fighting spirit must have been terribly damaged
Ronald my boy...
That makes no sense.
You make no sense.
Cut the crap.
Nah you heard your own rumor. Nobody throws a fight and still ends up in the hospital.
Total BS.
Ya....and got his neck broke twice while he's throwing it
No 2 fighters hav ever been under anywhere near th same amount of pressure fr their own skin in th game 2 th hopes of th whole world
There's a famous saying wen it comes 2 Louis-"never fight th great man twice"
Louis avoided the right hand this fight by keeping his left hand up
Louis was so focused he didn't even notice Schmelling come up to him with pleasantries before the fight. Huge fight of course. Would have done a lot to dispel the myth of the Aryan Superman in the common American mind, which had massive consequences in WWII, when you come to think of it. Louis is popularly thought of as the first American to strike a blow against Hitler. Schmelling had knocked an indomitable - looking Louis out two years before, when Max himself was already considered past his best and was supposed to be served up to the Bomber as fist fodder like former champions Sharkey, Carnera, Baer. Imagine if he'd done it again! American soldiers would have gone to Europe with an added anxiety in their minds, Are these guys really superior? Look what that past - it guy did to Joe Louis...
Tyson Fury should beware. Louis had to wait two years for revenge, and you saw how he took it. Schmelling won the first fair and square. Fury cheated in his 'victory.' It's on his carcass that Wilder's resentment and revenge will be taken out. You have been warned: it will be savage.
We have been warned?
FukOuttaHere!
GivesAShit?
People don't understand that Max was on US soil and had to throw this fight to potentially calm the on set of WW2.
Thats nonsense, if he was throwing the fight he could of stopped when he was against the ropes, he had extensive damage then.
Instead he continued on for 3 knockdowns and still tried to continue.
Obviously Max wanted to win.
He went home to a hero's welcome in the 1st fight.
😂 wierdo
@@devilface97 is that really you alistair? lose some weight for _ _ _ _ s sake ...you look like you ate the octagon.
Think the first fight was thrown. All of a sudden Joe figured him out that quick. Joe dropped the first fight in my opinion. Idk why. Money or whatever.
comparing two of them, it looks like there is no intention from Max to fight back. maybe. maybe a fix . Scsmeling looked so booring in this first round. who knows...
I don't think Max would want to fix a fight that involves letting Joe hit him flush in the face. He's not that stupid
@@princemjbp695 flush in the face repeatedly, no I don't think Max would either
Al aleman jamàs se le viò intencion de ganar la pelea.
Schmeling. Was 9 years older than Lewis , if they were equal age Lewis could never beat Schmeling !
Klaus Zungler nope because it didnt happen. A prime Louis is different from being a young upcomer facing a vet
Louis would've kicked his ass if they were the same age. Louis was hungry and had something to prove. He took nothing for granted unlike in their first fight.
I just watched both fights back to back...... really ...hes that much better in the 2nd fight...REALLY????.... more plausible explanation is he threw the first fight......ijs
+clip11 and also: Joe learned from His mistake in The First fight: keep your hands Update! Schmelling noticed with the help of former heavyweight champion jack Johnson a mistake in his defense. When Joe threw a Right jetzt left his legt Hand wide Open. And schmelling went for that..
I just think he had a bad fight. The way he Draz back his jab was one of the few weaknesses that he had. He cleaned that up and was the invincible champ we all knew and love in the 2nd bout.
Joe Louis is the greatest of all time in my opinion. Everyone in the heavyweight division falls in their place behind Joe. The world may never see another champ that shines as bright. Makes me proud to be an American.
Scmeling was older and his career was trending down while Louis was in his prime. Almost two years in between fights, thats a long time for an aging boxer.
No 8 count for Schmeling that wore him down and lost the fight ---- Lewis was drug up with speed -
lol
Klaus Zungler there was no such thing as mandatory eight count in 1938. The rules were what they were.
Like hitler and all his nazi who loved meth am i right "klauss" 😂 max got waxed loser get over it
could not box shoes the pair of them
I believe that Joe Louis should have lost this fight by disqualification. He did no go to the neutral corner most of the times, instead stayed next to the man ready to punch him as soon as he left his knees from the floor. The referee did not give Schmelig the regulatory eight counts, did not clean his gloves, did not stand in front of him to see his condition, did not stop the fight when Schmeling turned his back to Louis and stopped fighting while letting Louis hit him in his back. The whole two rounds were a disgrace to professional boxing.
Realistically, the fight was over after first knockdown as Schmeling turned his back to Joe Louis.The Ref was just not willing to stop it that quick as this was a mega-worldwide fight (at the time) with huge implications as far as Fascism/democracy/race superiority were concern. I remember early 2000s, they were talking about this fight on ESPN sportscentury and they said Schmeling's left upper side(shoulder and hand) were temporarily disabled..unresponsive... after the first solid right at 5:28 - 5:30 and only thing that kept him up was right leg and holding on the ropes with his right hand while simultaneously letting out a blood cuddling scream that silenced the ringside seats with fear...... that's why u see the other official came running in after the 3rd knockdown to stop the fight(something not so common back in the day...unless of course it were the police)
u cant apply the strictness and order of today's rules to yesteryear.. thats the way it was.. dont blame Louis.. blame the ref for not enforcing watever rules there were to enforce back then.
Daisy Garcia Back in those days some guys would literally stand over the opponent while the ref counted.
Daisy,, Not sure you're watching the same fight I am. Joe's shots were clean and legal. Stop slandering a true, excellent boxer.
u obviously don't know boxing, it was allowed. standing 8 counts in a neutral corner on a knockdown weren't required
How the Fck did he keep getting up.