Kenney is a great drummer in his own right why compare him to Moonie they are both great drummers in fact The Who have been very blessed with their drummers there will never be another band as legendary as them.
I think he injected new life into the band to be honest with you because if you watch the video from 1978 It seems like they’re firing on all cylinders but you can tell Keith trying to pick up the pace at some point and he just can’t do it anymore. Great way for Keith to go out though but yet again I think Kenny kind of kick the band in the ass and said all right let’s show him what we can do
Folks STILL arguing about Kenny. Let it go, folks. The band was in a very, very tough situation and found a way to move forward. I saw them in '80 - was never able to see them with Moon. That '80 show was very easily the best concert I've ever been to. EASILY. My advice? Just enjoy every era of the Who for what it is/was. Music will never seen an era like what happened from the mid '60s to the mid '70s, but that doesn't there isn't great, great music to be found outside of that era. Just enjoy. This version of Punk and the Godfather is fantastic.
These London clips are great! John Entwistle's bass tone is represented well in the mix. Full depth and detail! The mix in this particular song is outstanding!
If you have to "replace" Keith, Kenny Jones was the right choice, they benefit from his fire and his tightness. I love The Live Shows with Kenny. No disrespect to the Moon. This really Rocks.
I think he plays BETTER than Keith on this one. THIS is the version Pete wanted, I'm sure of it. I don't know what the decision was to include Kenny in The Who, but Kenny was a known, was a great drummer from one of the most underrated British bands. Kenny would be the first to admit he didn't want to be in The Who, mainly because he wanted his friend back. But to say he sucks is not accurate. Remember Keith was on drugs and booze when he did his best work. The Who was going into their late 30's. Keith himself was not ready to slow down, as evidence as how he died. I'm not a Keith basher, but to bash Kenny is just not right.
Kenny is a fine drummer....I love his work with Small Faces/Faces.....and I've seen him with the Who many times from late 1970s until '82...I've seen them with Moon is the early-mid 1970s and Kenny is just different...in guitar player's lingo, he doesn't have the same tone a Keith....totally different vibe....my favorite band.
Incredible performance (my favorite song on Quad and by The Who in general)...if only the director/whoever was switching the cameras decided to give Entwistle some love, playing his mind out - all of em were.
Wow....Kenny shifts it into overdrive. This was a great return for the Who with the new drummer. Plus you have to realize by the who’s last tour I think everybody was tired
so who sings harmony with pete on that 2nd half of the bridge, starting "and on the dancefloor..."? great job whoever did. just wish they showed it on camera but i guess the focus needed to be on pete's expressive face for this part. no woodstock-style split screens for this raw footage, as great as it is and as grateful as i am for what we got...
My parents bought me the album when I was a kid, and I've listened to this a few times over the years. So why is it that I've only just picked up Pete Townsend's lyric change? Then again, lout does rhyme with out don't it.
Probably because of the fact that Townshend sings the other introspective, smaller pieces. But looking at the song and the roles the band members have on the album it is right that the lines are sung by Daltrey. In fact the song is a reference to the band itself, and it is the main character of the album seeing his favourite band (the who), but not recognizing them as the band he thinks they are. Towshend then is another part of the four personas of the main character taking over for a while.
The entire show has never officially been released on CD nor DVD. Pete has the show in his archives. There has been no hint from Trinifold though that the gig will be released.
Ox porte la même vest qu'a shepperbush en 1978 ? Pour le film kids are allright Ox is wearing the same clothes that in shepperbush in 1978 at shepperbush for the recording of kids are allright ?
@Sludge9509 Let's not forget The Ox's wall of Sunn amps! As far as Townshend being wrecked, yeah he sure was! He was deeply upset about the Cincinatti tragedy which happened a little more than two weeks prior to this gig. Have you seen the rest of the footage? "Won't Get Fooled Again", and "Baba O'Reilley" were full of drunken mistakes! As bad of as Pete was, this was still one of the Who's best performances, in my poinion!
Kenney was more of a snare heavy player whereas Keith seemed to play more on the toms and double kick. Also Kenney is more of a straight ahead drummer and a single kick drummer. Kenney is a great drummer and had been playing for decades, but it's hard to make a transition from your own style to another drummer's style. Especially one as unique as Moon. And he didn't want to try to copy Moon. I thought that he was a good fit (me and some of my Who fan friends have argued about that), but I can't think of anyone who could've done better or fit with the group better. Considering that Kenney had played half of the drums on the Tommy soundtrack, it seemed like a good idea. And he came from the same Mod scene that The Who had. This performance here and a sort of "Sparks" jam are the most tom fills I recall him ever playing during his tenure with them. And the solo in "Won't Get Fooled Again" (but still alot of snare in there too). So he did try to play what was supposed to be there. And I agree, the tempo here is quite a bit faster than it should be.
There's a video of them doing "Punk And The Godfather" as a soundcheck for Rockpalast which is still has slightly fast tempo (too fast for John to do his thing), but Kenney did a lot better on the fills for it. Pete sets the tempo with his opening chords. I don't know why he thought it should be faster, unless he still had Quadrophobia from the Quad tour.
Kenny did a great job on the fills much tighter and cleaner than Moon. Moon was and unique drummer but Jones gave new character to Who music. Incredible drummer.
@shantypiker41367 haha yes, a great concert, never heard one bad who concert, but pete was also most likely upset by keith's death, he spends some of wont get fooled again dancing around the stage haha and they all completely muck up the ending, intresting to watch haha
It’s Big John. The album has a cool affect where Pete’s voice is in one channel and John’s is in the other. It’s a great song and I love this part of it.
@@straightpipec6099 In the album version it’s both Pete singing the main part and high part, just panned left and right. In this video it’s Entwistle and Pete
I don't care how talented if I we're Pete I won't have never let John shit all over the main riffs with his stupid clunkly bass solos. he s not complimenting the song he's playing over it
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I love how people rate Drummer Kenny Jones like the critique is fresh...on a video from 4 decades back.😉Kenny jones is a great drummer.
Too true
He’s a monster here!
I agree 💯
Kenny Jones is underrated!
Kenny Jones is a superb drummer! Possibly my favourite drummer, in fact.
He is great but Moon played lead drums. Kenny plays traditional drums.
Best rock band ever......
Truly!
Absolutely ✌️
Kenney is a great drummer in his own right why compare him to Moonie they are both great drummers in fact The Who have been very blessed with their drummers there will never be another band as legendary as them.
I think he injected new life into the band to be honest with you because if you watch the video from 1978 It seems like they’re firing on all cylinders but you can tell Keith trying to pick up the pace at some point and he just can’t do it anymore. Great way for Keith to go out though but yet again I think Kenny kind of kick the band in the ass and said all right let’s show him what we can do
Folks STILL arguing about Kenny. Let it go, folks. The band was in a very, very tough situation and found a way to move forward. I saw them in '80 - was never able to see them with Moon. That '80 show was very easily the best concert I've ever been to. EASILY. My advice? Just enjoy every era of the Who for what it is/was. Music will never seen an era like what happened from the mid '60s to the mid '70s, but that doesn't there isn't great, great music to be found outside of that era. Just enjoy. This version of Punk and the Godfather is fantastic.
Man, nobody writes quality lyrics like this anymore.
This song is better than all modern metal crap combined.
I love the faster tempo. Rog kicks it in the ass! All of them did.
I saw the show on this tour - it was fantastic. One of the best I have ever seen.
These London clips are great! John Entwistle's bass tone is represented well in the mix. Full depth and detail! The mix in this particular song is outstanding!
An admirable effort by Kenny.
Best track from Quadrophenia.
I saw them Chicago 79 the drummer was awesome
If you have to "replace" Keith, Kenny Jones was the right choice, they benefit from his fire and his tightness. I love The Live Shows with Kenny. No disrespect to the Moon. This really Rocks.
I think Pete Townsend's said his pitch to him was something along the lines of , ' Well we're Mods, you're a Mod.'
The bass is going mental!
THE OX!
Who said Kenney Jones could not nail it ? He plays like Moon in this one. Obvious, this song, demands it.
I think he plays BETTER than Keith on this one. THIS is the version Pete wanted, I'm sure of it. I don't know what the decision was to include Kenny in The Who, but Kenny was a known, was a great drummer from one of the most underrated British bands. Kenny would be the first to admit he didn't want to be in The Who, mainly because he wanted his friend back. But to say he sucks is not accurate. Remember Keith was on drugs and booze when he did his best work. The Who was going into their late 30's. Keith himself was not ready to slow down, as evidence as how he died. I'm not a Keith basher, but to bash Kenny is just not right.
Kenny is a fine drummer....I love his work with Small Faces/Faces.....and I've seen him with the Who many times from late 1970s until '82...I've seen them with Moon is the early-mid 1970s and Kenny is just different...in guitar player's lingo, he doesn't have the same tone a Keith....totally different vibe....my favorite band.
The snare sound is phenomenal.
Awsome vid! Caught them in 82 brilliant concert.. Still hard NOT to see pete with a gibson!!
Go Kenny!
Que banda,por Dios !!
kenny jones was no slouch here.
The bloody Who!...the greatest of all time, fuck the Stones
One of the best - most energetic versions I've seen! Brilliant!!!
Now that’s the way!
Incredible performance (my favorite song on Quad and by The Who in general)...if only the director/whoever was switching the cameras decided to give Entwistle some love, playing his mind out - all of em were.
Wow....Kenny shifts it into overdrive. This was a great return for the Who with the new drummer.
Plus you have to realize by the who’s last tour I think everybody was tired
Lol at Pete at the end.
Just did the same thing.He was such a maniac back then.
Kenny is such a pretty good drummer
Christ, look at 3:12! The crowd is going wild, as they should be - that's probably one of my favorite moments of the album.
"OKAY!"
Album?
"We are the slaves of a phony leader. Breathe the air we have blown you" still relevant.
Kenney is rockin.
Daltrey takes the high line on the harmony in the bridge. I don’t think they ever did that on anything else.
Suena a la versión de estudio,es brillante.
Beautiful
SO Yess! Thanks! Was actually first time when Tinja sees this! :D Tinja and Markku
fuck yeah
so who sings harmony with pete on that 2nd half of the bridge, starting "and on the dancefloor..."?
great job whoever did. just wish they showed it on camera but i guess the focus needed to be on pete's expressive face for this part. no woodstock-style split screens for this raw footage, as great as it is and as grateful as i am for what we got...
answering my own question here. found another live clip of this song from this tour in chicago. it's the ox.
tough song to sing
My parents bought me the album when I was a kid, and I've listened to this a few times over the years. So why is it that I've only just picked up Pete Townsend's lyric change?
Then again, lout does rhyme with out don't it.
Tempo is a BIT rushed.... don't get the full majesty of Ox's basslines and the chord progression... but otherwise.,.. BADASS
He's dragging
This is badass
@shantypiker41367 Damn right, that tone John gets from those Alembic basses are the BEST! Pete was a bit wrecked at this show though
This is a great song.
I love the album version.
This live version is ok if a bit fast.
Probably because of the fact that Townshend sings the other introspective, smaller pieces. But looking at the song and the roles the band members have on the album it is right that the lines are sung by Daltrey. In fact the song is a reference to the band itself, and it is the main character of the album seeing his favourite band (the who), but not recognizing them as the band he thinks they are. Towshend then is another part of the four personas of the main character taking over for a while.
Townsend is the best 🎸
Does anyone know if this concert (and this version) was released on CD/DVD? this was one of their best performances, and the the best of this song!!
The entire show has never officially been released on CD nor DVD. Pete has the show in his archives. There has been no hint from Trinifold though that the gig will be released.
There are bootlegs of this show on dvd, its very good
Kenny ! FUCK ME .... Briliant
Punky! First appearance of the Scheter Telecaster?
Sounds like an angry mosquito.
Ox porte la même vest qu'a shepperbush en 1978 ? Pour le film kids are allright
Ox is wearing the same clothes that in shepperbush in 1978 at shepperbush for the recording of kids are allright ?
@Sludge9509 Let's not forget The Ox's wall of Sunn amps! As far as Townshend being wrecked, yeah he sure was! He was deeply upset about the Cincinatti tragedy which happened a little more than two weeks prior to this gig. Have you seen the rest of the footage? "Won't Get Fooled Again", and "Baba O'Reilley" were full of drunken mistakes! As bad of as Pete was, this was still one of the Who's best performances, in my poinion!
Kenny trying really hard w all those busy fills to fill Moon's shoes. An impossible job
Kenney was more of a snare heavy player whereas Keith seemed to play more on the toms and double kick. Also Kenney is more of a straight ahead drummer and a single kick drummer. Kenney is a great drummer and had been playing for decades, but it's hard to make a transition from your own style to another drummer's style. Especially one as unique as Moon. And he didn't want to try to copy Moon.
I thought that he was a good fit (me and some of my Who fan friends have argued about that), but I can't think of anyone who could've done better or fit with the group better. Considering that Kenney had played half of the drums on the Tommy soundtrack, it seemed like a good idea. And he came from the same Mod scene that The Who had.
This performance here and a sort of "Sparks" jam are the most tom fills I recall him ever playing during his tenure with them. And the solo in "Won't Get Fooled Again" (but still alot of snare in there too). So he did try to play what was supposed to be there.
And I agree, the tempo here is quite a bit faster than it should be.
There's a video of them doing "Punk And The Godfather" as a soundcheck for Rockpalast which is still has slightly fast tempo (too fast for John to do his thing), but Kenney did a lot better on the fills for it.
Pete sets the tempo with his opening chords. I don't know why he thought it should be faster, unless he still had Quadrophobia from the Quad tour.
Kenny did a great job on the fills much tighter and cleaner than Moon. Moon was and unique drummer but Jones gave new character to Who music. Incredible drummer.
@shantypiker41367 haha yes, a great concert, never heard one bad who concert, but pete was also most likely upset by keith's death, he spends some of wont get fooled again dancing around the stage haha and they all completely muck up the ending, intresting to watch haha
Kenny Jones is a beast
The mix sounds pretty off here. Pete is quiet and John has to fight to be heard. The Mic and Kenney need to be turned down or John and Pete turned up!
Townshend is the greatest
You say Punk, I say THE GODFATHER!
thumbs up
He drummed better in 1979 and 1980 or sounded fresher.
Too bad Jones couldn't sustain this level of playing for more than a year or so :(
who is harmonizing with Pete at 2:53?
I think it's John Entwistle. I listened twice, and don't think it's Roger.
@@chrisevans9553 definitely Entwistle
It’s Big John. The album has a cool affect where Pete’s voice is in one channel and John’s is in the other. It’s a great song and I love this part of it.
@@straightpipec6099 In the album version it’s both Pete singing the main part and high part, just panned left and right. In this video it’s Entwistle and Pete
2 people should stay in bed...
I don't care how talented if I we're Pete I won't have never let John shit all over the main riffs with his stupid clunkly bass solos. he s not complimenting the song he's playing over it
Dude the thing is it’s usually Entwistle playing the melodic riffs, and Pete is just clanging out chords.
@@calvin8935 who wrote the songs?
@@holysmoke8439Pete knows what he’s doing. He knows enough to know John’s basslines work for his song. Why would you know better than Pete?