🔴 STOP using filters on your LEICA camera? + Leica Q3 43

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
    @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад

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    • @JS-shim
      @JS-shim Месяц назад

      The only thing that is protected is the front element.

  • @studio20concepts
    @studio20concepts Месяц назад +3

    I use protective clear filters on all my lenses, always high quality ones from Leica, B+W, Heliopan. There has not been any visible IQ loss in images that I have taken. The cost for replacing a front element due to a freak accident is more than buying a dozen good filters, not to mention the down time and hassle. One more thing is that it is much easier to clean a flat glass on the filter than curved front elements of many lenses.

  • @throtol
    @throtol Месяц назад +3

    I live in the desert not too far from where you filmed this segment. Due to the grit and sand, I almost always use a UV filter for protection. In addition, I have a habit of having camera straps break on me. Why, I don't know, but it is something usually comes undone unexpectedly. In any case, I would rather lose a filter than impact an expensive lens. Hoods also are a viable substitute that protects the lenses. In addition, I like to use red, green, yellow and orange filters at times for my black and white photos. If I am filming water a CPL filter sometimes comes in handy and does wonders for the quality of the shot. Lastly, I do not skip on quality.

  • @paulboskerphotography
    @paulboskerphotography Месяц назад +1

    Thanks for the review. My 43 is shipping tomorrow! I don't use UV filters unless I will be in an environment where I might get sand or water hitting the coated lens, then its best to protect it from that abuse and you then wipe/clean the UV and not the camera lens. So I won't care to much about the hood/filter issue as only time I will use filters with Macro mode is for CPL or ND and then I have a 77mm KASE Revelation Magnetic set I use for my other lenses. I then use a 49mm to 77mm magnetic adaptor for the Q3 and it won't fit behind the standard hood anyway.

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks Paul, yes makes good sense. I’d protect the lens too in those situations. Enjoy your 43!

  • @erikgrossman
    @erikgrossman Месяц назад +4

    I scratched the front element of a Leica 50mm lens. The cost of the repair was $429.25 in 2022 (excluding the cost to ship the lens to NJ). Since then I have always used high quality UV filters on all of my lenses.

  • @peterneumann6806
    @peterneumann6806 20 дней назад +1

    I was in a Lacey store here in Germany near the headquarters, and an engineer of the Q system told me that they are already working on a replacement lens hood to address this issue. They will offer free exchange (at least in Germany, as they could tell me). 🙂

  • @victorcarmelo8606
    @victorcarmelo8606 Месяц назад +1

    Been a hobby photographer since the sixties and my excuse is I like using filters, simple plus the five pro reasons you mentioned. Regarding the hood, I got vignettes on my Q2 especially if the rim was deep rather than slim type. I got a generic hood like yours but with same thread as the Q2’s original hood so now I don’t snag my fingers replacing or twisting CPL’s & variable ND filters. Thanks for sharing.

  • @jeffstephens5266
    @jeffstephens5266 Месяц назад +1

    I always have a Leica filter on my Q2 because I never use the lens cap as it falls off so easily. As I photograph on the street I’m happier with not worrying if the cap will fall off while still protecting my lens. Strangely enough I never use a filter and rarely use a hood on my Sigma lenses fitted to my CL

  • @zoltankaparthy9095
    @zoltankaparthy9095 Месяц назад +2

    The hardest working man in the camera business. You get the award every year. Great thoughts on filters. I am a guy who uses them always, and a hood, as I just want to be sure the lens is protected. A belt and suspenders (braces) guy. One case where filters are a must: Leica M8/8.2 and M9 for IR cut. You know these cameras were IR sensitive but it does not affect you in mono, in fact it may help. But for color it screws up greens and blues. I have been advised it helps on the M240, also and use them there. I am so relieved that you missed this as it shows that you are , indeed, a mortal. And I had been having my doubts.
    OK, some praise. You just recently posted a single model shot on Flickr. I knew it immediately as yours before I saw the credit. You have a signature style and it is great. You have a long road of successes in front of you because you have worked for it. And have that streak of talent. Cheers from the stands.
    And thanks for the bit on the Q3 43. I do not see it as what you would normally use but it does seem to have a good lens and sensor, both Japanese from what I have read. Lens a Panasonic patent. German hardware and software, the Axis is back. LOL

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад

      Thanks Sandy! Yes my old M8 needed the IR cut filter to get correct colours. Not needed for the M9 or M240 but maybe it helps for a certain look. (I've never needed for my M240 sensor cameras and the M9 gave true colours just very saturated. M8 green was not green without the filter and synthetic black suit jackets looked purple without.

  • @PaulTimlett
    @PaulTimlett Месяц назад +1

    I got thumped on the value of a modern Nikon lens by MPB. I hadn’t used a protective filter and they claimed there were tiny scratches on the lens. I always used a lens hood on it and always fitted a lens cap when not using it. I am really careful with my gear. I now use B+W clear filters (not UV filters) on my lenses.

  • @vampolascott36
    @vampolascott36 Месяц назад +12

    In recent times RUclipsrs tell people not to use a protective uv filter, but when I got into photography in the ‘80s, photography instructors told me to always protect my lens with a filter. I don’t see any downside to using protective filters, so I’ll continue to do so.

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад +3

      Thanks. In the film days filters were more of a must as used for colour correction too. Now they are more optional.

    • @vampolascott36
      @vampolascott36 Месяц назад

      @@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Back then I couldn’t afford a uv filter 😂

    • @Hektormydog
      @Hektormydog Месяц назад

      @@vampolascott36Me too, in the old days didn’t use a Uv filter unless it was raining or dusty conditions. Two more surfaces that had to deal with transmission of light and reflection that could degrade the image quality. But, filters were different back then. Now with the high quality MC and a special surface that makes wiping them easy and clean, a UV just works well for protection of the front glass without problems. Of course for B&W photography filters serve a different purpose.

    • @fendushi
      @fendushi Месяц назад +1

      100% agree with this. I will continue to use a UV filter.

  • @Jerry10939
    @Jerry10939 Месяц назад +1

    I use filters on my lenses. To protect the lens and I also use it for creative effect, I was a photojournalist and the filters saved two of my lenses from damage but the filters had to be replaced.

  • @garysong8163
    @garysong8163 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you Matt for informative video. Since my first 35 mm Nikon F I got in the early 60’s I’ve always got a UV filter for all my lenses, including my Leica and Hasselblad lenses for one primary reason and that was to lessen the number of times I had to clean the front element. The other reasons were secondary. The more you have to clean the front element the more you risk scratching, wearing or smudging the front element and its coating. If you trade in your lenses each time a new one comes out….not an issue, but if you like to keep them, especially vintage lenses then yea use a filter.
    As with the Leica Q3 43 if I has one, I’d use the filter and pay extra for the lens hood Leica offers for filter users. Looking at some of your close ups, case in point lenses get dusty. If you can afford to buy a new Q then do what ever. I just think lens filters are cheap insurance to protect your front element

  • @daviddb4858
    @daviddb4858 Месяц назад +3

    If you photograph by the ocean a lot, as I do in the US Pacific Northwest, a filter is a must to protect the front lens element from salt spray. Yes, you can clean the front element of the lens, but over time, will the salt take its toll on the front element? I wouldn't want to risk that.

  • @blende5.693
    @blende5.693 Месяц назад +3

    I never use filters to protect my Leica lenses. For sure I use a yellow or orange filter for bw photography, or sometimes a pol-filter, that’s it. I take care of my cameras and carry them always in my bag.

  • @gletschertroll
    @gletschertroll Месяц назад +2

    I own both Q3 28 and Q3 43 and I would like to add that it is NOT a solution to use the square "28 hood" on the 43. Why? You would not have an issue by using a filter in macro mode, but the hood would NOT screw on properly. The "stop" would not be where the hood ist properly - horizontally - lined up but somehow crooked. The round "ventilated" hood on the other hand (either from Leica or third party) solves the problem though. I use round ventilated hoods on both my Qs (28 and 43) because I like them better anyway. But this, of course, is a matter of personal taste.

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for sharing. Yes someone else mentioned the Q3 hood isn’t a good fit on the 43.

    • @gletschertroll
      @gletschertroll Месяц назад

      @@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom It screws on, but when tightened it is at an approximately 20 degree angle. Looks more than ugly, looks embarrassing

  • @ianforber
    @ianforber Месяц назад +1

    Using filters like colour filters, ND filters etc is a specific use for particular types of photography and surely most people accept that - if you shoot b&w film, denying yourself the look of yellow or red filters sounds odd to me. The debate usually centres around UV filters. The argument about picture quality degradation has never been persuasive for me. I didn’t use filters on my M lenses but took a picture through a very grimy train window once and you couldn’t tell - even posting on the Leica forum I didn’t get any comments. I do use a UV filter on my Q2 and the only time I’ve had a problem is when shooting at night (London Christmas lights) when I found I was getting reflections from the rear of the filter. I took the filter off and now know that’s the only situation I won’t use a UV filter. Although not one of the big names, I’ve found Urth filters to be very good.

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад

      Thanks for sharing, yes someone else commented that cheap filters work too. Thanks!

  • @4WHEELBIKER
    @4WHEELBIKER Месяц назад +1

    I agree, depends on environment in which you’ll be shooting. Use high quality German filter and no issue.

  • @ericjang3618
    @ericjang3618 Месяц назад +1

    if you get Eins filters (sold from MAPcamera (Japan)), it will have no problem with the hood for Q3 43mm.

  • @XboxTheBeatboxer
    @XboxTheBeatboxer Месяц назад +1

    I've been using Breakthrough filters for about a year now with success.

  • @dude157
    @dude157 Месяц назад +1

    I've tested 4:1 macro with a microscope objective, on a camera with 36 Megapixels of resolution through a £25 UV filter widely available on Amazon. There was no loss in sharpness or detail and I couldn't perceive any difference in colour saturation, or microcontrast. I suspect unless you are shooting with a £20k 600mm wildlife super telephoto prime you're probably not going to see any difference. if there's any loss in quality you would expect to see, it would be microcontrast loss but im not seeing it.
    So i put them on all my lenses that I shoot outside with. Other filter brands or filter types may be different and your milage may vary.
    however, filters may not be as robust against abrasion as lenses, may get marked more easily and then need replacing.

  • @averywagg1839
    @averywagg1839 Месяц назад +1

    If I think my lens hood will protect the lens, I don't bother with a filter. On my 50mm v5 Cron, I have a filter (on the M4 & M11). The only problem the new Q3-43 has, is that Leica didn't send me an evaluation unit such that I could use it for the next 12 years..

  • @husshardan3511
    @husshardan3511 Месяц назад +1

    Put any brand filter on your lens at night and shoot a scene with light points in it. Enjoy the reflections of those light points in your image! Test this for yourself. That’s why at night I take filters off.

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад +1

      Great tip yes, or I add a mist filter if I want more glowing highlights with a modern lens.

  • @StephenPodrasky
    @StephenPodrasky Месяц назад +1

    I recognize that person in the video. I only have filters for the moncton cameras. Yellow, orange. I do not use UV filters, just my preference.

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад +1

      Ha thanks Stephen, I hope you approve and I tried to keep it mostly faceless. Yes colour filters help a lot on the Monochrom cameras. Great seeing you in NYC!

  • @thomasclark631
    @thomasclark631 Месяц назад +1

    UV light is the enemy of fungus. When storing lenses my advice is to remove the UV filters and allow the lens to enjoy as much natural light as possible.

  • @Odins.Valhall
    @Odins.Valhall Месяц назад

    Hi Matt✌✌
    So you're back and healthy, that's important👌 I've also been using filters a lot earlier, but in the beginning they weren't really interesting for me, of course for contrast and colours, at least I tried in my early days with Canon, which was almost 15 years ago. Polarising filters or graduated filters in landscape photography😉 or smoke in general. I generally used a filter normally just to protect the lens, so the gel was actually perfect. Now I already have filters on the Summarit 1.5/5 and the Summaron, yellow filter and red I find very interesting because I've already tried it with the R System 6.2 and I really liked it👌 And so next week I'll have a look around at our photo exchange. This week there will be another Summitar and Elmrar maybe today and last week one from 1939 which is now at the iif. I still have to come up with something here. maybe a lid.
    As alwaysr top video and thanks for the tips.👍
    Lg Anderl

  • @JanivarNorbeck
    @JanivarNorbeck Месяц назад

    Hi Matt super video on filters.I totally agree.When shoting dia positive film a 81b is often my filter for Fuji Provia to give varmer tones.Many thanks😊❤❤

  • @kenn6592
    @kenn6592 Месяц назад +1

    Despite always respecting my gear I scratched an expensive telephoto lens despite its massive lens hood. No idea how. So I always use best quality protection filters. At least it was an interchangeable lens. Imagine with a Q3, scratching the lens! 😢

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад

      Sorry to hear and yes true, makes sense with fixed lens camera even more so.

  • @GrowYou-l5z
    @GrowYou-l5z Месяц назад +1

    In doing cooking videos…such an issue trying to get enough blue light.

  • @VincenzoNoletto
    @VincenzoNoletto Месяц назад +1

    What’s the name of the handgrip on the Q3 43? Thank you

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад

      I think it’s just the standard hand grip. I’ll try to find out before sharing the full video.

    • @VincenzoNoletto
      @VincenzoNoletto Месяц назад

      @@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I think it's the SmallRig,

  • @madefromfilm
    @madefromfilm Месяц назад +3

    The Q3 hood does not work on the Q3 43, as it does not line up correctly, so sits at a crooked angle!

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад +1

      Oh no, thanks for confirming. I saw some people were using this method.

    • @andrewsnape1705
      @andrewsnape1705 Месяц назад

      It can be aligned correctly with small sections of duct tape on the thread, so the original Q3 hood properly aligns and tightens in an 'earlier' spot on the Q3 43. Far from an ideal solution, but it is a work around for anyone lucky enough to own both.

    • @madefromfilm
      @madefromfilm Месяц назад +1

      @@andrewsnape1705 Hi, sure I did see you can put sticky tape on the lens thread; but straight out the box as Leica supplied it, the lens hood does not fit correctly! If I put two pairs of socks on, size 13 shoes fit, but I don’t want to wear two pairs of socks - nor do I want to put sticky tape on my new Leica!! This isn’t a cheap camera, and to have to put tape on the hood, is far from ideal… I did try, as own both the 28mm and 43mm, however with tape on it, you can’t screw the hood tight; if you knock the hood, it comes loose easily! C.

    • @andrewsnape1705
      @andrewsnape1705 Месяц назад +1

      @@madefromfilm 😂 absolutely agree with you. All the best 👍

  • @Millicente
    @Millicente Месяц назад +1

    I've got a step up ring (because a 48mm filter was far more expensive), filter (ir for my M8), and hood (because intense flaring) on my canon 1.4 ltm and my god it looks like it just has a barrel at the end of the lens.
    As an aside, I haven't shot much with film so was wondering why you shoot with black and white film instead of color film and converting in post. You've said you prefer to do that with your digital cameras because it gives you all the color channels to manipulate. Wouldn't it give you the same benefits on film? Or does b&w film have a specific benefit to image quality or low light performance like the monochrom sensors on leicas do?

    • @yonmusak
      @yonmusak Месяц назад +1

      I'm sure the dude will provide a more eloquent response, but with regards to B&W film photography, the subtle variation and range of tones is simply better with dedicated B&W film. In addition, developing the film at home is WAY more convenient with B&W.

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад

      Nice. Yes fair point. Strangely for film I prefer proper B&W and getting it "in cameras" and easier to dev at home.

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks, yes +1 to proper B&W and dev at home

  • @chrisfetto9400
    @chrisfetto9400 Месяц назад +1

    Has anyone dropped a camera and had the attached filter glass break inward and damage the lens? Seems like a real possibility.

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад

      I think if they did the lens would be damaged with or without the filter.

  • @Jerry10939
    @Jerry10939 Месяц назад +1

    You have never been in an environment where things get kicked up like small rocks or sand that can damage the lens.

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад

      Thanks, yes for those occasions I’d automatically reach for a filter, 100%

  • @typeology8266
    @typeology8266 Месяц назад +1

    Tell me how to not using filter on M8

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад +1

      M8 you need the IR cut filter to get correct colours. I used to own that camera so used step rings so my filter fitted all my lenses.

  • @cameraprepper7938
    @cameraprepper7938 Месяц назад +1

    I have not used filters for the last 40 years, neither for analogue nor for digital Cameras and Lenses, it is waste of money.

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад

      Thanks. It’s definitely a money maker for shops as margins are slim on cameras/ lenses (as I understand)

  • @frankygamaliano7058
    @frankygamaliano7058 Месяц назад +1

    I’m a filter guy, what can I say? 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @Bollywoodhollywood2023
    @Bollywoodhollywood2023 Месяц назад +1

    Yessss 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @RS-Amsterdam
    @RS-Amsterdam Месяц назад +1

    It's not a Leica error. It's just the way they are build.
    And the problem is only in macro mode and let's be honest how many times do you shoot macro with your Q.
    For normal shooting there is no problem.
    IMO macro is a nice to have feature but never the major reason to shoot a Q3. If you are really into macro shooting another camera would be a much better choice.
    Can we please stop whining about this. 😊

    • @bodythetan
      @bodythetan Месяц назад

      Cope

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks Rob, I think people just want it to work for the price point. (I quite like macro as it's a benefit over M bodies etc)

  • @jatpg
    @jatpg Месяц назад +1

    It is simple. Use a filter for a specific purpose when the positive effect caused by the filter is greater than the loss.
    I do not use filters for lens protection. Never had a problem in 45 years...and that inludes street and riot work.
    One aside...a Nikon F body saved me from injury once. A Nikon F3 body helped me defend myself once ;-)

  • @gregpantelides1355
    @gregpantelides1355 Месяц назад +1

    I think they messed up by not releasing a Q3 75 with that 75 APO :-P

  • @jasongold6751
    @jasongold6751 Месяц назад +1

    I can't believe what you done! Old Leitz lenses are made of soft glass! I keep a UVa or other filter ALWAYS on My 50mm Collapsible Summicron! Have you actually looked at lenses, no filter..MMM! I was shown by a maniac how stong Nikkor /Nikon Glass is! Why we all voted with our money to Nikon and Canon and Pentax! I lke my Leica! But loose this idea!

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад

      Thanks Jason, I do explain in the video UV filters are good on vintage lenses because use of the soft glass and show one of my old lenses with the original Leitz filter. Maybe you missed that section.

  • @FreedomNYC
    @FreedomNYC Месяц назад +1

    Stop telling me wtf to do

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад

      Thanks David, I’m not sure how much you watched but I just shared what works for me.

  • @MrGuto
    @MrGuto Месяц назад +1

    your reasons to use a filter all make sense, the reasons not to are really silly. sadly, just a clickbait video.

    • @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
      @MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom  Месяц назад

      I took ideas from the forum comments so the answers are real even if they seem silly to you. I guess we’re all different. (Many photographers don’t use any filters).