As name suggests, this is actually evolution of things BMW have been doing since last century (like their 1st production European turbo was preview of things to come).
I understand the excited kids. My son and his friends love the different drive modes in my IX - not only the ambient lighting changes but the iconic sounds too😊
When I first saw the iX photos online, I thought what the hell have BMW done with the styling!! But having since seen quite a few of them on the roads, bizarrely I've got to really like the looks!! Can't explains it!
Just realized they replaced the classic BMW Roundel center caps that have been a staple since... I dunno, forever with ridiculous black... coffee can lids(?) that say B M W on them. Wow. So groundbreaking. Nothing says heritage like throwing it away in every way possible.
Nice one Joe, what a beast 👏 . Did you get to enjoy the Reefton Spur, just near where you drove up and down Lake Mountain ? It’s one of our best Rural Racetracks here in Victoria 😂
100%. And the market agrees - this has been an instant sales flop. Not a good look when dealers have to advertise $20K off an all new halo car in the first month of launch.
Insane is paying Porsche premium for shared VW corporate MLB Evo platform, if you don't like this wait for BMW's highest output engine hybrid V8 in neu M5.
I chose Porsche Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid two months ago over that. The downside is the electric range, which is fine I guess. 7.2 kW charging is very inferior for a 25.7 kWh battery. Cayenne TSE has a lot of base equipment, including carbon ceramics, and you can find a well specced one with literally all of the options. I wouldn't pay BMW a Porsche price for basically getting an X5M hybrid. Probably, the suspension is also configured harsh, too, though I haven't tested.
Great video as always Joe. I think this car was a great idea, but flawed execution. The ride would be a deal breaker for me. Also the interior is lovely, but without a pan roof, it looks rather oppressive to me, especially in the back. Also I know there is the Red version with nuts power, but I think spending the sort of money this costs and for it not to be as fast as an X5M is also a big miss unfortunately.
They sell their Bespoke Rolls for million$, when Karmann coachbuilt E9 was new to North America, it listed for more than Corvette, SL or E-Type, with less horsepower, 4 cyl. 2002 priced opposite V8 pony cars. Nothing has changed.
X5MC has steel suspension, which led me to buy a Cayenne instead. Does XM have an air suspension? With this much weight, the steel suspension would be either wobbly or too sturdy.
Just looks so dark in the back without a panoramic glass roof but it doesn’t matter, they will sell anyways since i’ve already seen 3 of them in my country.
Love it! It’s a very interesting and polarising car for a special kind of customer and I think this concept works. Can you get your hands on the RWD G42 M240i? I’d love to watch your take on it!
There is nothing to figure it out u don’t already know. It’s ugly, it’s heavy, it’s pointes, it’s pinnacle of today’s BMW board who ruins the great brand step by step.
@@vuyaniman9440 u would be very surprise because no one is buying this ugliness. European market stock in every country is full for XM with huge discounts and still stock is full.
BMW should pay Joe some money for getting his feedback before they present a car. He probably knows better what the market wants compared to the CEO and product managers at BMW. He is living it whereas those fellas @BMW are there often cause of another reason.... Money or as we say in Germany.... Moneten
Board is into 2nd generation of families that saved BMW from being plowed under in favour of Daimler truck factory, they have been expanding the co. longer than Joe has been alive & doubled volume this century on Spartanburg X crossovers in segments they didn't compete in last 1. Co. that trolls love to hate just announced record #s. Again.
From a corporate standpoint you cannot argue with this XM or what you describe. BMW's changing automotive portfolio seems to leave many purported BMW lovers wanting. For whatever reason. But doubling volume over the first quarter of a century guarantees nothing for the next 25 years. Personally, I think BMW is threading the needle beautifully with the solid EV offerings built on shared platforms. The XM is a niche vehicle derived from a show car and in that context, not really intended as mainstream, pulls it off quite well.
Happy New Year Joe. I only watched some of this video because it was on your channel and I like your thoughts on these vehicles. My thoughts. It’s one of the ugliest design BMW have come up with. And that’s saying something. The hybrid part is a waste and sounds like not necessary. Added cost and weight for very little gain. The looks alone mean I’d never buy one. The electric motor means a definite no. No wonder many car review channels have this as the worse vehicle of 2023.
Happy new year mate!! Great review as always.. and I know everyone moans about this... But how gross are these modern BMWs. It's just such a mess. the one you did a few days ago..(iX2?) also hideous.
BMW’s worst product. Willfully ugly (maybe it’ll become a classic like the Alfa SV?). I had one as a loaner (which was bizarre) and hated it. I have a X7 M60 for reference. Terrible ride, and a drivetrain that seemed permanently confused. I thought they messed up the V8 sound too. It was loud but felt a little too much like a fast and furious car. And no moonroof. I had it for 3 days and was delighted to give it back and get my X7 back. I missed nothing about it apart from maybe the seats and the electric mode. The XM just feels unresolved and messy. And truly ugly. Mine was Urban Green which is possibly the worst colour ever. No wonder sales (in the US at least) are terrible and getting worse
It’s amazing how stuck in old ways the masses are. This car needs you think outside the box which most cannot do. Who wants to drive an X5,6 or 7 and add to the number of soccer moms on the road! This is a car for visionaries and trendsetters. I don’t know why so many people are hung up about the stacked exhaust. It’s not new and has been seen in the Bugatti Chiron, Lexus IS F, Ferrari California. This car isn’t perfect and the air suspension is the biggest miss. The Label is far more refined especially how the petrol/electric engines interact with each other. As the owner of the Label in the USA, I get multiple positive comments every week and outside of reviewers and online reviews, the reaction is extremely positive. To all the die hard M fans out there, get used to M cars with more weight as this platform is headed to the new M5 and I bet other M cars in the future.
This car is an off day for BMW. M3 Touring and M2 are excellent. New 5 series is also pretty good as well (if a little too large) But this is a total miss from BMW. Ugly, expensive and just compromised.
@@unowen-nh9ov they are useful. But let's not ignore those who love the thrill of driving and great styling which unfortunately is the case. Another coupe line would be perfect, or at least bring back a 1 series coupe.
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Kudos to BMW for trying something different 👍🏻
As name suggests, this is actually evolution of things BMW have been doing since last century (like their 1st production European turbo was preview of things to come).
I understand the excited kids.
My son and his friends love the different drive modes in my IX - not only the ambient lighting changes but the iconic sounds too😊
When I first saw the iX photos online, I thought what the hell have BMW done with the styling!! But having since seen quite a few of them on the roads, bizarrely I've got to really like the looks!! Can't explains it!
Good video Joe. As a pom living in Australia I'm liking the UK/Aus dual review. I'd go for a X5 M60i over this, just as quick and save a wad of dosh.
I sat in one the other day, it is enormous much bigger than my X5M. Just as big as my Transit 350😂
The front face of these looks interesting still trying to figure out how I feel about them
Let’s just hope it’s a sales success in its target marketplace: China. Happy New Year Joe, your content is always on point 👌
Another honest review - nice to see some familiar scenery 😊
That is my dream car right now , in blue of course 💙
What a great review. 👍Very well done, as usual on this channel, but this time with an extra flavor, maybe the Australian touch😁
Can you say Which one has the better suspension between the XM and the X5M, comfort wise ?
To the point content!! Amazing Joe..
Just realized they replaced the classic BMW Roundel center caps that have been a staple since... I dunno, forever with ridiculous black... coffee can lids(?) that say B M W on them. Wow. So groundbreaking. Nothing says heritage like throwing it away in every way possible.
Nice one Joe, what a beast 👏 . Did you get to enjoy the Reefton Spur, just near where you drove up and down Lake Mountain ? It’s one of our best Rural Racetracks here in Victoria 😂
I’ve waited so long for this
Great review thanks
Nice review Joe. I can’t help but think we should not be producing cars that weigh 3 tonnes! It’s ridiculous. Even two tonnes is way too heavy.
As you said Joe, you’d be better off with a X5 Competition.
You would have to be insane to choose this over the Cayenne Turbo e-hybrid
100%. And the market agrees - this has been an instant sales flop.
Not a good look when dealers have to advertise $20K off an all new halo car in the first month of launch.
Agreed. As a BMW fan and owner this is a sad product to see launch and shows where M is heading in my opinion...
No, M heading to 1,000+ bhp. BEV.
Insane is paying Porsche premium for shared VW corporate MLB Evo platform, if you don't like this wait for BMW's highest output engine hybrid V8 in neu M5.
I chose Porsche Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid two months ago over that. The downside is the electric range, which is fine I guess. 7.2 kW charging is very inferior for a 25.7 kWh battery. Cayenne TSE has a lot of base equipment, including carbon ceramics, and you can find a well specced one with literally all of the options. I wouldn't pay BMW a Porsche price for basically getting an X5M hybrid. Probably, the suspension is also configured harsh, too, though I haven't tested.
Great video as always Joe. I think this car was a great idea, but flawed execution. The ride would be a deal breaker for me. Also the interior is lovely, but without a pan roof, it looks rather oppressive to me, especially in the back. Also I know there is the Red version with nuts power, but I think spending the sort of money this costs and for it not to be as fast as an X5M is also a big miss unfortunately.
Looks like a warthog
Great video ❤
Challenging looks…..would make a good LEGO kit …..
You really understand your cars
£150k for a BMW. World has gone mad.
They sell their Bespoke Rolls for million$, when Karmann coachbuilt E9 was new to North America, it listed for more than Corvette, SL or E-Type, with less horsepower, 4 cyl. 2002 priced opposite V8 pony cars. Nothing has changed.
X5MC has steel suspension, which led me to buy a Cayenne instead. Does XM have an air suspension? With this much weight, the steel suspension would be either wobbly or too sturdy.
Just looks so dark in the back without a panoramic glass roof but it doesn’t matter, they will sell anyways since i’ve already seen 3 of them in my country.
i like your car phone mount i keep seeing it in all your reviews/ its very minimal and simple yet impressive / can you kindly recommend ?
Love it! It’s a very interesting and polarising car for a special kind of customer and I think this concept works. Can you get your hands on the RWD G42 M240i? I’d love to watch your take on it!
Love the look. Everything else looks boring.
Always wonder how it's compared to Xb7.
Hi, how is it when compare it with Cayenne turbo? Or s e hybrid?
You mean VW, 1 of a dozen models they sell on same platform.
There is nothing to figure it out u don’t already know. It’s ugly, it’s heavy, it’s pointes, it’s pinnacle of today’s BMW board who ruins the great brand step by step.
Because of all this they will sell thousands for sure 👏💪
People are buying it. And the board is probably getting good bonuses while at it.
Hard to argue with that.
It's a truly awful car.
@@vuyaniman9440 u would be very surprise because no one is buying this ugliness. European market stock in every country is full for XM with huge discounts and still stock is full.
@@pevvex4452 , America , China and the like of Saudi Arabia buy these big body cars.
BMW should pay Joe some money for getting his feedback before they present a car. He probably knows better what the market wants compared to the CEO and product managers at BMW. He is living it whereas those fellas @BMW are there often cause of another reason.... Money or as we say in Germany.... Moneten
BMW management are into 2nd generation of family that saved the co. & they have been expanding it longer than Joe has been alive.
Board is into 2nd generation of families that saved BMW from being plowed under in favour of Daimler truck factory, they have been expanding the co. longer than Joe has been alive & doubled volume this century on Spartanburg X crossovers in segments they didn't compete in last 1. Co. that trolls love to hate just announced record #s. Again.
From a corporate standpoint you cannot argue with this XM or what you describe. BMW's changing automotive portfolio seems to leave many purported BMW lovers wanting. For whatever reason. But doubling volume over the first quarter of a century guarantees nothing for the next 25 years. Personally, I think BMW is threading the needle beautifully with the solid EV offerings built on shared platforms. The XM is a niche vehicle derived from a show car and in that context, not really intended as mainstream, pulls it off quite well.
How much can it tow?
In hindsight, this could have been Alpina’s first car, rather than an M car.
Happy New Year Joe.
I only watched some of this video because it was on your channel and I like your thoughts on these vehicles.
My thoughts. It’s one of the ugliest design BMW have come up with. And that’s saying something. The hybrid part is a waste and sounds like not necessary. Added cost and weight for very little gain. The looks alone mean I’d never buy one. The electric motor means a definite no. No wonder many car review channels have this as the worse vehicle of 2023.
i think BMW tried to achieve "Cybertruck" effect with the design but couldn't pull it off. sorry BMW design team, "pls fix!"
Should have been an alpina xb8
I would rather have a fully loaded X7
Alpina.
Tell us it looks better in the metal
Styling is Subjective, not objective.
Only one word can describe this car and it is…..UGLY 😂
Great effort again Joe 👌 Happy New Year 🥳
Happy new year mate!! Great review as always.. and I know everyone moans about this... But how gross are these modern BMWs. It's just such a mess. the one you did a few days ago..(iX2?) also hideous.
& record selling, some troll comments for free while drivers write cheque$, both record #s.
God that looks horrible Joe. Come on mate
i like it, still x5m is better
1:45 -1:48 m2 touring? don't you mean m3 touring.
I said M3 Touring
@@JoeAchilles1 I think maybe it was just the video because it sounded like m2 touring.
Even the charging kit bag is ugly…….
It's fast but way too heavy 😬
A century ago luxury vehicles were measured by weight, everything old is new again.
Can't for go the looks imo. I'll take a Range Rover all day long over this!
It was BMW who salvaged Range Rover 20 years ago (along with MINI & Rolls), now they power Indian Tata SUV with BMW V8.
Without doubt, the ugliest BMW ever designed 🤮
It's no Isetta!
A visual abomination. But at least it's not an EV!
What do you think a hybrid is? 1st M EV is kinda the point.
@@unowen-nh9ov oh ... so, full visual abomination. Half actual abomination then 🙂
Good lord that vehicle is hideous 😳
maybe not the most beautuful car in the world however it is stil one of the most beautiful car in the world
Hi Joe 👋....very striking design but the tech and the luxury you cant argue with 🫶👍😉🌶️
BMW’s worst product. Willfully ugly (maybe it’ll become a classic like the Alfa SV?). I had one as a loaner (which was bizarre) and hated it. I have a X7 M60 for reference. Terrible ride, and a drivetrain that seemed permanently confused. I thought they messed up the V8 sound too. It was loud but felt a little too much like a fast and furious car. And no moonroof. I had it for 3 days and was delighted to give it back and get my X7 back. I missed nothing about it apart from maybe the seats and the electric mode. The XM just feels unresolved and messy. And truly ugly. Mine was Urban Green which is possibly the worst colour ever. No wonder sales (in the US at least) are terrible and getting worse
It’s amazing how stuck in old ways the masses are. This car needs you think outside the box which most cannot do. Who wants to drive an X5,6 or 7 and add to the number of soccer moms on the road! This is a car for visionaries and trendsetters.
I don’t know why so many people are hung up about the stacked exhaust. It’s not new and has been seen in the Bugatti Chiron, Lexus IS F, Ferrari California.
This car isn’t perfect and the air suspension is the biggest miss. The Label is far more refined especially how the petrol/electric engines interact with each other. As the owner of the Label in the USA, I get multiple positive comments every week and outside of reviewers and online reviews, the reaction is extremely positive.
To all the die hard M fans out there, get used to M cars with more weight as this platform is headed to the new M5 and I bet other M cars in the future.
Good for you 😀
BMW get grief over fwd. & automatics, most of the industry are the former & Ferrari & F1 have used the latter exclusively for years.
That thumbnail almost made me vomit. Cool.
Another polarising BMW. I don’t hate this but I would never buy one, what happened to the BMW’s that used to be desirable?
Better than the look of the new 7 but still not a nice looking car. Shame
That is one seriously ugly car.
This car is an off day for BMW.
M3 Touring and M2 are excellent.
New 5 series is also pretty good as well (if a little too large)
But this is a total miss from BMW.
Ugly, expensive and just compromised.
Who is going to buy this monstrosity?
The rich, who are different from you & I, Michael Jordan's V12 850i is listed on BaT.
Another SAV sigh, another boring design. Non inspiring. For crying out loud BMW build more high performance coupes.
SAV have doubled their volume this century.
@@unowen-nh9ov they are useful. But let's not ignore those who love the thrill of driving and great styling which unfortunately is the case. Another coupe line would be perfect, or at least bring back a 1 series coupe.
@@marlborom2c8292er, 4er, 8er, while Nissan, Honda, Mercedes have all CUT coupes, 1er coupe is a hatchback.
Heavy, inefficient and ugly. A £50k car with an asking price of £150k. BMW is literally a joke at this point!
OMG🤣🤣🤣this is a ONE buggy ugly car WTF ???
When you talk you use your hands too much. Its tacky.
I hope you find happiness ❤️
@@JoeAchilles1 Thanx but I’m happy.
@@XrubiIt's. You're tacky and illiterate.
Well, you’ve clearly never been to Italy 😉. I suspect a country - and cradle of the renaissance - far less cultured than your own….🤔
……then stop watching?
looks like a chinese knock-off of a bmw.