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Marianne: the VERY Important Story Fire Emblem Told
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- Fire Emblem: Three Houses is home to a diverse cast of great characterization, and Marianne von Edmund is certainly one of many well-written characters. Today, I'll be discussing just how important of a character she is. Not necessarily for the plot of Three Houses, but for how important her themes tie to real life circumstances.
Below are the video chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
0:21 - Who is Marianne?
1:08 - Marianne's Positive Change Arc
1:54 - Marianne's "Lie"
4:59 - Marianne's Truth
8:41 - The story that needed to be told... for us.
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Background music list (in order):
-Knuckles Chaotix OST - Combination
-Shining Force 2 - Dying Wishes
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I didn't like Marianne at first because she was such a Debbie Downer, then I did her Paralogue. The implication that her parents were kidnapped and murdered by people like that "scholar" kind of explains why she is so standoffish. Her A-support with Lorenz, Dimitri, and Byleth are simultaneously the saddest and most heartwarming, to me.
I adore her and Lorentz's support chain so much. They're my favorite ship in the game.
An interesting tidbit I saw somewhere: if you head into Marianne’s room at the monastery, she actually has an extra chair in the centre. This appears to be placed under one of the rafters, indicating the possibility that she may have been planning to hang herself (in short, rope tied over the rafter, stand on chair, kick away chair).
Yeah, this game is dark as hell sometimes, but it is a story that, for want of a better description, just gets it, and Marianne is arguably the best example of this.
It is strongly implied she kills herself if you play any other route that isn't Golden Deer and you don't recruit her before the timeskip, as she never shows up as an enemy after the five years have passed. The chair in the middle only shows up after the timeskip as well if I am not mistaken.
@@ajch22jeeezus!
Marianne truly the best character in 3Houses/Hopes, and have best support with Dimitri
The sad part is though, Marianne's entire story hinges on Byleth's involvement. Even if Byleth isn't A-supporting her, if Byleth doesn't bring her into his/her class; Marianne does not return for the War Phase five years later. It's implied that whatever happens in those five years... Marianne didn't have the will to keep fighting. It's implied because of her A-Support with Byleth; Marianne.. succeeded in her prayer's plea. The small things matter to people, and all it took was Byleth giving Marianne a chance in his/her class. And it's quite tragic because of this.. Small things like kindness and giving people a chance, or instilling just a little bit of confidence can do wonders for those struggling.
I think that's why of all the characters of Three Houses, Marianne is the most stand-out character. Even to the likes of Dorothea, Ferdinand, Dimitri, and Ashe. Her pain is real, her story resonates well to anyone who has felt lost or overcome with grief and stress.
I hadn't really thought about it like that, but laid out like this... yeah, that's a rather grim possibility that's likely true. I do think it's still possible that Marianne may also be laying low during the war, considering all she wanted was a quiet life away from everyone. Though that's probably just me being in denial for her sake... lol. I still do hope that's the case, but still can't rule out the darkest outcome given everything you outlined.
I think this summarizes 3 houses writing as a whole, you have nuanced situations where if the player doesn't interact with them, they fucking kill themselves like it's dark souls, but at the same time byleth is so super duper cool and awesome (and is god) that ONLY byleth can save marrianne from cringe offscreen death
So what you’re saying is that is Marianne is the sort of canon love interest to Byleth?
@@bragsaint7824 I mean, to be fair, in dark souls games the player character helping out another character is just as likely, if not more likely, to be the catalyst for that character ending up dead than it has any chance of saving them from an otherwise ill fate. In Elden Ring basically nearly every NPC is better off if you don't interact with them than if you do, every quest line increasing the death toll rather you're killing them yourself or not, so maybe not the best comparison.
Marianne is probably my favorite character in videogames. There's something about her that is just so deeply resonating to me and my own life. She and her support partners also helped me to help me through my own depression and insecurities, that of having a purpose, that of imagining a future, that of being a burden. Isolating yourself because you feel like you'd only bother people...that is what happened for a big part of my life, and to see a character that perfectly represents how I felt back then truly affected me. It also helped that underneath all that was such a kind and empathetic person, the fact that she never lost her heart even through all that also was inspiring.
I'd also like to point out how sweet her support and paralogue with Hilda in Three Hopes is. While Hilda can't help her unpack all that she has, she's *there*, and she takes the bullet for Marianne and actively makes her more confident and happier by just showing her affection no matter what. And sometimes we just want that, someone who's on our side no matter what.
@@mihaimercenarul7467 you again? Shut up, if you're such a critic go write your own OC and see how that turns out
It's small but i always found a small comment she makes post timeskip, which she calls her younger self "arrogant" for taking life so lightly. It's an interesting change, her self loathing from a "lack of worth" changing to a general disdain for that entire thought process.
It's honestly kinda nice to see some positive videos about 3H's writing since hating on everything about the game is the new cool thing to do, apparently.
Marianne also has a very nice support with Bernie in Hopes
It sucks sinxe 3hs writing is far and beyond above FE games that arent PoR
Yea this includes Kaga emblem
ESPECIALLY Kaga emblems
Sadly, most of FE community is deprived of positivity. It's part of the reason why I'm trying to spread positive vibes throughout my videos. Way too much opposition over conflicting opinions to find a common ground.
3H just gets hit especially hard these days because of 1) Engage being the new game now, so trashing on the previous game in favor of the new one has always been a nonsensical thing with certain groups of this community. And 2) its actual flaws are overexaggerated by its haters. Now that the game's 4 years old and recency bias is no longer present, it keeps getting unfairly compared to previous titles for not following the same formula. Which makes no sense to me, considering it's a staple for each FE game to get more innovative to differentiate itself from the other installments.
I'm sure with another year or two (or when the next FE game comes out), most of the 3H hate will fizzle out.
@@CainMagnusThe FE community loves to be arbitration and contradictory.
"No child units ever!" but hold up Genealogy as 'true FE'
'Engage needs a real story!' but fe3h is 'just a social sim with too much story'
Etc.
Im pretty sure all of us at least has or was a Marianne. When we just feel like giving up (not necessarily on life - job, school, ...etc) and go to peace (not necessarily death - gaming, drinking,...etc). But we all have pushed through (with or without help).
Something really dark about her is apparently from what I've heard, if you don't have her on your team before the timeskip(either being recruiting or joining Golden Deer), she won't appear at all during the time skip. So if we take into account her A support with Byleth, it could be implied that if she isn't on your team, she ends her own life.
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I went Golden Deer first and _immediately_ wanted to protect Marianne at all costs, vowing to recruit her on every subsequent run with the other houses. That desire only increased when I did her paralogue... and was accompanied by an urge to reach through the screen and strangle that piece of shit Crest scholar. (Also her A support with Byleth made me want to give her the biggest hug. GAH I LOVE HER SO MUCH)
I also like Marianne’s supports with Hilda because she just spends time with her as she is even though they have different world views and they learn from/lean on each other. 💕
I really love how the player is rewarded with a well written character if they take the time to get to know Marianne and watch her supports/do her dialogue.
Thank you for the video. It's wonderful seeing others appreciate a character I love so much.
Also, F*CK crest scholar!
Yep. That's why I love support conversations so much. 3H really outdid itself on that front.
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When she gets better and finds her purpose, if you want to s rank her she's the one who proposed to you!
As someone who strongly related to Mariannes character when I played the game for the first time back in 2019 (and still do relate to her to an extent), this was a wonderful video that summed up why Mariannes story is important to me and so many other people
A great video of an amazing character, she is my favorite since i played for the first time and seeing the growth of her mental state just makes my day 3000 times better, also seeing her fate during the other routes is devastating
ALWAYS RECRUIT MARIANNE AT ALL COSTS.
This is a great analysis, and I am glad you are exploring this subject. Also, I make a point of recruiting Marianne in whatever house I am teaching.
I love the romance between Byelth and Marianne the same way I ship Byleth with Dorothea, Shamir, Sylvain, Dimitri and Jeritza. Some might say that Marianne’s romance with Dimitri is good, but Byleth helped her open up a lot and break out of her negative Nancy shell. She spent her whole life being harassed by Crest Scholars and being treated as a monster because of her crest which has a history of turning into a dangerous beast that kills anyone on sight. And what’s really depressing, if you don’t recruit Marianne before Edelgard starts the Five Year War, it’s implied that she committed suicide, probably out of depression. Marianne’s proposal picture is romantic given the way Byleth holds her cheek as a sign of accepting her as a person, not a monster. In a sense, Marianne is basically the Edward Scissorhands of the romance and Byleth is the Kim Bogg of the relationship, or a simple beauty and the beast with Marianne being the Beast or Prince Adam and Byleth being the Belle. A lot of people, especially those on Twitter feel that this romance is problematic due to the fact that Byleth is 21 and Marianne is 17 and the fact that it’s a student and teacher relationship, but a 4 year age gap isn’t that problematic or huge.
Oh wow, how did I not find this sooner?! Your Marianne essay is amazing!
Thank you!
Great video and very relatable!
Thank you!
Is interesting her story overall, and with the video itself, oh by, that sad Shining Force 2 song fits way too well, but yeah, Marianne's ending with Byleth was one of the most shocking things I never expected... in a good way.
Thank you for this Marianne video breakdown it's great to see people appreciate the same characters you like. Marianne is one of my favorite characters in 3H besides Claude and as much i do like her as waifu it was her character development I gravitated towards first looking through her supports especially her support with Ferdinand and Dimitri, but yeah great video 👍🏾
I just wanted to mention that the layout and objects of everyones room is a little bit different. In Marrianne's room a chair sits under her chandelier.
7:37 YESSSS DR K IS SO GOOOOOD
I'm not into Fire Emblem, but this video is still very interesting to watch.
I am playing my first playthrough choosing Golden deer. I love this character and the fact that shes so powerful and gains inner confidence makes her a highlight of this game. Is there any class, where I could make her an elemental specialist? I want to make her as close as an avatar I can.
Marianne looks very similar to Mercedes!😄 THEY MUST BE PROTECTED! 😄
If Deirdre was a good character
Eh, I won't really say that. Yes, their backstories and personalities are somewhat similar, but their roles in the story aren't. Deirdre is more similar to someone like Azura or Veyle in terms of her narrative purpose, while Marianne is just one of your many students rather than being someone super important. As such I dont think it's exactly fair to compare the two.