John Lennon talks about the Pistols. 1980
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- John Lennon talks about the Sex Pistols, Sid Vicious and how The Beatles stage behaviour was similar to the Pistols in their Cavern days
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Sorry to hear you lost the channel but glad youre back and feeling better.... this is a really cool interview.
Here's a personal Beatle story for you (well my Dad's):
In the late 50'searly 60's my Dad ran a dance band in Burnley, not far from Liverpool. To increase the "young person" attendance the manager of the dance hall would bring in local rock 'n roll bands with "the new sound" for a few sets on Saturday nights. My Dad's band (the house band) wasn't allowed to drink in the hall so they would dash to the pub across the road during their 30 minute breaks. One of those Saturday nights (he thinks it was maybe 1958 or '59) it was the Beatles or whatever their name was at the time (Quarrymen ? Silver Beetles ?). Anyway, my Dad and his bandmates weren't there - they were across the road at the pub because these bands all sounded the same to them. A few years later of course, he heard the name again and vaguely remembered the unusual name. So now I can tell the celebrity story to top them all : The Night The Beatles Opened For My Dad's Danceband.
That's fantastic!
Great story.
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Such a lovely story, thank you for sharing!
That’s so cool!
John wasn't just coming back with his own music he was embracing the contemporary music scene. His entire attitude about life had changed and he was becoming such a joyous middle aged man. All the more why his murder was so devastating
He left his son Jullian with nothing and completely disowned him. Lennon was a fake.
@@captainblimp4133 lol he never disowned him not even close. John was in Julian's life just not full time
I think you are correct. As is said, He'd seen it all, he'd done it all, he'd had everyone. Time to settle down with The Wife.....he decided he'd come to the end.
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@@captainblimp4133 troll
Is like to have seen what John would have made of Nirvana, I think he'd have loved Kurt's sense of melody and how hard they rocked.
Kurt was a huge Beatles fan when he was a kid. I think he got his sense of melody from them and combined it with the punk rock he got into later. Perfect combination IMO.
Lennon and Kurt are very similar in their "verismo" style of songwriting and performing! Both held raw honesty as the highest criterium in art
I suspect he would've felt the same sense of 'I've heard all this before INCLUDING the angst' as many did when Nirvana shot to fame.
@@stevecarey2030 yeah I remember reading he didn't want to double track his vocals when recording Nevermind but Butch Vig told him Lennon did it so he was fine with after that 😄
Nirvana is god awful whiner music
When I was young, I liked two bands: the Beatles and the Sex Pistols. I was told that it was strange, no one had the same hobby. And now, 35 years later, John Lennon is the first person to agree with this.
Nothing strange about that. Makes perfect sense!
ironic, love it.
I love this bands too
You guys would’ve been buds
That’s not true, Lennon hated the Beatles!
Lennon talking about that new fangled ¨cable TV thing they have here¨. LOL!
I love that John digged the Sex Pistols...Many punks will say they hate hippies but they have more in common than they think.
John and Yoko owned a $32 million dollar mansion in West Palm Beach in the '70s. He's not quite the hippie folks think he was.
@@HC-cb4yp John was a long haired, free loving preacher of peace, he just so happened to be in the biggest band ever which resulted in him becoming filthy rich. He worked with and gave to charities, tried to end the war and just so happened to spend some of his money, I think most hippies would've done the same.
Hippies use the side door.
Agreed. I was heavily into the punk scene in the 90s and a lot of the punkers hated the Beatles and 60s music in general. But in my mind I always saw punk as an offshoot of 60s music. A lot of it sounded punk at least in attitude. Certainly the Ramones were heavily influenced by 60s music and they were the band that inspired the rest of the punk scene.
@@hellooutsiders6865 “Suddenly, you are twice the man you used to be
Excessive fame in quick death.
Would it be different
If Paul gone instead
Would you be so hot if you weren't dead?
Famously, you spoke of love philosophy
You're a hypocrite, your
Cruel lack of empathy is long forgot
Would you be so hot if you weren't dead?”
And a mutual inspiration for both the Beatles and the Sex Pistols was Eddie Cochran. Paul played Twenty Flight Rock to audition for John, and Sid Vicious covered Something Else.
Well, Hell. Anybody who is serious was influenced somehow by Cochran.
Covered it with vomit.
I could listen to Lennon for days, man. Love his Scouse humour and his points of views. As well as his stories.
He loved Reggae too. I knew some members of The Beatles had met Bob Marley. I've seen pictures of Paul with Bob and George as well.
Maybe a Lennon and Marley Collab could've been in the pipeline??
It's ironic how John dies in 1980 (the same year of this interview), Bob dies the following year.
Reggae a genre of music that has its roots in American Rnb.Check out Fats Domino, and the original version of My Boy Lollipop you will hear what the Jamaicans copied and called Ska .
@@Raider577 yeh and yankee responded by taking toasting into rap.
Reggae is not rnb.Reggae is a riddum that come from Africa as did your yankee rnb.
Ska is the only music inspired by yankee.
Anyway we in the Caribbean love we soca.
One day yankee might steal that too!
Well, well, here's the word "Madness" coming out of the mouth of John Lennon. That was...somewhat unexpected.
I've never heard this before but to name check all those bands - surely a bit of a thrill for them?
Including Lenny Loverich.
The Pretenders too... wild
Why is Madness unexpected?
@@tonybates7870 because people in the states only know from the song Our House. Most don’t realize that they were basically a ska band.
@@apathyintheuk265 Lene Lovich. "Lucky Number" was her big hit.
If I were Blondie or the B52s being name dropped by Lennon, I'd have felt like I really made it. I bet they were ecstatic.
B-52s (just for searchability). Very much agree.
”I saw Blondie when she was unknown”.
Facepalm.
@@poloistanina to be fair almost everybody thinks Blondie is a solo act unless they actually get into their music. But yeah, it's pretty funny coming from John.
Oddly enough, Debbie Harry was going to be at the Hit Factory on the day after Lennon was murdered. They were about to meet (not recording together but to say “hi”.
I bet they didn’t care about what an old pop singer thought of them and they were into their own scene
Sounds like the beginning of a great story. Shame it got cut off. It's well known that after John heard Rock Lobster, he became a big supporter of The B-52s. Also, anybody who has heard the
Hamburg tapes, and knows about how they acted on stage, know that The Beatles basically started punk rock. You wouldn't believe how many arguments I've gotten into, and how many friendships have ended when I bring this up.
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You are absolutely right. Just listening to the Beatles performing a concert in Hamburg is enough proof
I had the same feeling when I was listening to their Hamburg recordings. Punk before punk.
Sorry to hear you lose friends just because they have a different opinion on music, perhaps better off without them if they are so shallow ...
I'd wager if you are losing actual friendships over this point it might be worth considering your approach to dialogue.
This only confirms all the collaborations we missed out on. Brings tears to my eyes.
Absolutely
"Someone once asked me what was the difference between us and The Beatles" "Soap and Water"
Steve Jones - Sex Pistols Guitarist.
That quote always makes me laugh.
No no my friend. The difference between them is how many Number One Hits they made. Separately. I understand jokes, I know that Sex Pistols were a joke but come on son, they can't hold a candle to them.
@@peterdunai4073
The Sex Pistols sound like noise to me, angry, always screaming. The Beatles made music.
I believe both bands are legendary.
@@peterdunai4073 This was a flippant, very "tongue in cheek" remark made by Steve Jones. Actually it was a line from the movie "The Great Rock n Roll Swindle". It was part of a movie script.
You're taking it far too seriously LOL
@@peterdunai4073 Both bands played an important part in rock and roll history. The Beatles ignited the British Invasion and evolved over the 60s, while The Sex Pistols were ignited the punk/new wave era, which, thankfully, brought about the end of the Disco Era.
John Lennon also said he liked The Cars, or at least he gave them a listen, and as massive Cars fan that means so much to me that John even acknowledged them. I know most of The Cars loved the Beatles, especially keyboardist Greg Hawkes. Two of my favorite musical acts, the Beatles and The Cars
Yep, all of them loved the Beatles, Elliot commented on his facebook he was really happy John liked them. The Cars also liked The Velvet Underground. Id say The Cars, The Beatles and VU are my top 3 bands. Ironically Lou Reed claimed to not like the Beatles, but did compliment them early on, and also loved 2 of John Lennon's solo career songs (Mother, Jealous Guy).
The mid 70s was such a fantastic time for new music. I was 11 in 1976 and just absorbed it all.
Same here, same age as yourself. My first memory of music is The Beatles “Something”. My 2nd memory is CCR “Down on the Corner”. After that it’s all a blur.
Lucky you!
I was 17. It was a long hot Summer and it's songs were Don't Go Breaking My Heart, Fernando and Young Hearts, Run Free.
To me, all of the really cool stuff was between 1977 and 1986. That was just my style, and MTV videos really helped. Like John said, he first saw the Pistols video on cable TV. Early 70s was too folky with the rise of dreaded singer-songwriters of the period. That's just me.
& I was 12! Brilliant times for kids to get into music. Punk, ska, reggae, rockabilly, prog-rock, skinhead, 2-tone, mod revival, Bowie, Saturday Night Fever, disco, even eurovision was at its height, then new wave, post-punk, and the birth of electronic music... yayyyy!
John Lennon was digging Madness? That just made my day 😁🤩
I would've loved to have heard a conversation between John Lennon and Johnny Rotten.
Yeah me too. It'd have been interesting, two wildly different personalities 💯
It's crazy to hear him talking about the B-52s they just seem worlds apart. I knew they were older but Love Shack happened in 1989 so it makes them seem much more modern.
He famously told Yoko "They're ready for you!" when he heard Rock Lobster
When John is talking about B-52s, he's obviously talking about the early stuff......Love Shack is more pedestrian top 40.
Early B-52s had a much more post punk feel. By the time Love Shack came out, they were much more polished and more conventional (same with U2, REM, and New Order) and their songs were more pop and commercial sounding. Early B-52s was clearly influenced by Yoko Ono and the Plastic Ono Band’s more avant-garde style. Even Stereolab ripped off Plastic Ono Band pretty blatantly (and amazingly).
Well 1989 isn’t exactly that modern anymore
@@jojopuppyfish / Oh really. You mean he's not talking about the later stuff! WOW!
Great to see John give Madness some props. Such a great band, seeing them again this coming June. One step beyond!
Edit 1/18/2022: Unfortunately, the word is sent out today that after two postponements in two years, the NYC show for June is canceled, as well as some other US shows. May have to do a road trip :)
Lovestruck, Never Knew Your Name, So Close, Mr Apples, On The Town, Sugar and Spice - they never stopped making bangers even after their hay day 😁😁 one of my top bands ever
love madness and mongoloids!!!
I love Madness. My son got myself and the missus tickets for a Madness gig about 4 years ago. I hadn't seen them live since the early 80s and I went to the gig with trepidation, because I don't like seeing bands I loved in the past look and move around like old men. It was one of the best gigs I have ever attended! Absolutely amazing! I laughed and danced all through it. Guess who were supporting them? The Lightning Seeds. They could have filled out a venue just by themselves. What an evening. Have a great time in June, Steven.
MADNESS AND THE SPECIALS BIG HITS WERE JUST COVERS OF PRINCE BUSTER 1964.
ONE STEP BEYOND, MADNESS, GANGSTERS (AL CAPONE song), MESSAGE TO YOU RUDY (DANNY LIVINGSTON 1967). etc....
so what?
In an alternate universe, John is still alive and there are plenty more interviews with him weighing in on New Wave, MTV, grunge, rap, rock, hip hop, techno, CDs, autotune, and all the cheesy processed Top40 from the last twenty years.
@Barbara Guest I'm pretty sure in NYC at the time, they had closed-circuit TV that featured local shows, crackpot talk show hosts looking for fame, all that. Lots of low-budget crap. CBGB and other small clubs might have been featured there, and Lennon, who was sitting around, probably tuned in and saw Blondie - before anyone knew the band - on their rise to fame. Then, when they became famous, John was able to note he had seen them at an earlier phase of their career.
@Barbara Guest Lovemaking, for me, involves large shoes, a bottle of seltzer water, and a bowtie that spins in circles when I get excited. Still, I would not consider that... clownish sex.
@Barbara Guest Are you having a Stroke?
@Barbara Guest judging by your ability to write, you are either a very angry 6 year old and or a terribly ill 70 something. Either way I worry of your access to the internet.
The DJ John Peel said Lennon loved talking especially about music and liked to think if he'd survived he be ' talking bollocks in a pub'. Which is when he was happiest !
Reading about the Beatles back in their early days it always sounded like John was a proto punk. So I love he confirming that basically.
Well any kind of proto rock is a blues driven guy screaming with a loud guitar a dude bashing the drums and a bass player all the other shit is layer cake.
@@randalstilskin5266 I'm talking about how John used to pull his pants down and moon the audience, throw beer bottles, get in fights with the audience and shout out cuss words. Not the music.
@@thepangwin902 John used to yell at the audiences in the Reaperbahn "You fucking Nazis." And they loved it.
John: we used to bite the heads off bats, drink each other's bodily fluids and throw feces at the audience... until Brian asked us to Tone it down for Ed Sullivan.
IKR? According to Lennon, the Beatles were shit unless he was in the mood to give them credit for something. Like the Donovan song that goes ¨first there is no mountain then there is no mountain then there is¨. LOL! Lennon bangs on that ¨first the Beatles are shit then I say they're not then I say they are¨.
Lennon, at times could be reminiscent of Richard Penniman AKA Little Richard, when Penniman would bang on as to how he single-handedly invented Rock and Roll and everyone was just copying him. Penniman and Lennon: legends in their own minds. LOL!
@@jaelge John is our national treasure even though in many ways he could be seen to be the architect of his own destruction but then he was born during the blitz in Liverpool which was far times worse than London was. So go work it out.
@@factorylad5071:
What you say may be true, but it doesn't contradict anything I said either.
@@jaelge In his own mind, and the mind of everyone else too.
@@ots1634:
Many, yes. Everyone, hardly.
Really interesting. Good to hear Lennon talking about the New Wave. Plus ça change: I remember reading an interview with a Liverpool girl who knew Brian Epstein in the early days of the Beatles. She and Brian helped behind the bar at someone's party in Knotty Ash, Liverpool. The Beatles were there amongst the party goers. This is her quote: '...They were just a scruffy bunch of boys. And who'd look at them?'.
Well, they certainly tidied up! .
Lennon was one of a kind for sure. Wish I was around to see him alive
Prefer the doors
Amen 🙏
@@Boilingfrogg There's the door. They were beginners.
@@carmenandthedevil2804 The beatles kiss arse.!! 💋
@@Boilingfrogg Do they? Whose arse did they kiss?
Post-punk and art rockers were doing Beatles covers around this period on both sides of the pond. Funny how it was 'no Elvis, Beatles or The Rolling Stones' but the Pistols covered The Who! But then The Who were an early punk band of sorts. Smashing guitars and Anarchy in the Keith Moon anyone? That bright Pistols and Damned spark gave way to the likes of Wire, The Fall and Crass who kept that creative purity and spirit alive and made it a thing of their own for years and sometimes decades to come. A truly remarkable period in popular music it was from around 1963 to 1982...'83......
For whatever reason...the pistols disliked the stones and i'm seriously baffled on that one because early on (and latter on in some cases) the stones used to kick a$$ and be even more punky and all than the beatles and some others, iggy pop pointed them as a huge influence and the best of the scene. Even the stones in so many cases had more far out controversial lyrics than the who...and pete was greatly influenced by them too. They where mouthy, trashy, crazy and dynamic... .so that was weird coming from rotten.
I’d say those bands (including Pink Floyd) and especially the Beatles loomed over the head of any newer rock musicians, that they’d become the end all be all of music and a sign of the establishment. Despite being raised on these bands, I’m sure a lot of young bands at the time had to tear down the Titans to take their place in the spotlight. I’m sure later they grew a new appreciation tho.
Great bit of summing up.
@@cinematicpassages8884 the pistols liked The Rolling Stones. The whole idea of them not liking big bands of the time was a pose invented by Malcolm which he sold to the press, like the original bass player getting fired for liking the beatles
@@cinematicpassages8884 John goes back and forth on his reasonings about other artists. He says bad things about The Clash, but was on BAD’s video Medicine Show. That video had Rotten, Strummer, Paul Simonon, Jones.
Don't even explain to the Kurt haters,, I think John would give any band a listen,,,in I'm sure if they were on there own they would get on fine,,, probably laughing at some of the negitive comments
Talk about a badge of honor. Having a band, and getting praise from John Lennon. It must be satisfying on some level to those artists mentioned.
Who's John Lemon?
i got to agree with Lennon, I liked madness and the B52s
And I still like The Pretenders
It’s nice to hear John be so positive about the Pistols. I think it’s just such a shame that John Lydon is so dismissive of the Beatles and their work. I wonder if he’s ever heard this interview.
Lydons not exactly the class act he likes to present himself as, if you ask me
Lydon’s position on anything is usually simply anti establishment.
Since the Beatles were well established and accepted it isn’t surprising that Lydon would say nasty things about them.
It is all an act. Who knows what Lydon’s real opinion of anything is.
@@michaelterry1000 He new about Jimmy Saville and reported to the bbc, they never took any notice of him. The sex pistols loved children and would play music and entertain them, Lennon didn't have an ounce of time for his eldest son, if anything he was anti establishment campaigning for a rapist and murderer Hanratty because his family asked and a man he knew nothing about to be pardoned. DNA proved him wrong but he was dead by that time so he couldn't see what a fool he'd been. I didnt buy this peace and love with Lennon he was aggressive and anti social.
Wow! 😳😳.. Christine Usher brought this thread to a screeching halt!.. I wanted to comment about what an asshole Johhny Rotten is/was, and then I read your rambling, gossipy response. My goodness, what tf does any of that have to do with John Lennon's take on the Sex Pistols??
@@arawn10 You wanted to say what an asshole Johnny Rotton was and I said what a silly prat John Lennon was, I avoided the A word you used as Lennon was not quite bad as the A's that I have come across. As both names are around on these posts I thought I would add a bit of gossip. Now go off and have your booster, dont do a John Lennon and not have one.
Personally, I thought Fred Seamen had given him a pretty useless list. Madness were a comedy act, crap. Lena Lovich a one trick pony and very short lived at that. The Pretenders were an average pop group and really not very exciting at all and Sid Vicious was a bad joke, an embarrassment.
Had Seamen really had his ear to the ground, he'd have supplied stuff like Magazine, The Clash, The Stranglers, Joy Division, Ian Dury & The Blockheads, Wreckless Eric, Buzzcocks, The Fall, The Jam, Siouxsie & The Banshees, Vivabeat, Suicide, Pere Ubu and not forgetting Throbbing Gristle.
Love that he mentions Lene Lovich lol, she’s mostly forgotten these days, but she was very Interesting back in the day…
Another great commentary by Lennon on “punk” after Sid Vicious OD’d, he said:
“Why did Sid Vicious die?!? So that we may “rock”?!?!?
So there was a lot of common sense going on in Lennon’s mind along with all the brilliance.
John Lennon and his 70s records and even Yoko's Plastic Ono LP were more Punk than anything Mccartney and his corporate rock Wings ever did
Frederick Schneider said he nearly fainted when he heard this lol
Fred Schneider is a super nice guy. I met him and his mom in Red Bank NJ once shopping in a thrift store. Fredwas born and grew up a few towns over. As he was signing an autograph for me his mom actually looked at me and said like a proud mom... "That's my boy!"
What a great moment for both
John was lucky to see all the performers of the 1960's and 1970's. I wonder what he would think about the 80's and today's Beatle tribute bands?
JFK, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King...and JOHN LENNON.
ASSASSINATED by 2 yes TWO gunmen. JOSE PERDOMO (the doorman) was CIA
Wow John Lennon talking about all these great bands. And he loved them.
Cool dude John Lennon
Fascinating to hear this. I knew about the B52s affection. He saw them as proof Yoko could make it as a pop star-because they were so weird.
Lol. And very true
Very interesting to hear his thoughts on these late 70s bands.
new wave was pretty good. punk sucks. blondie, the b-52s, the pretenders, the violent femmes, these bands were cool. had some great songs. the violent femmes first album is one of the best rock albums ever. (actually, there's quite a few "best rock albums ever.")
but sid vicious, johhny rotten, the sex pistols, the dead milkmen, the dead kennedy's and all those other "punk" bands were ANT-hippie! they were anti-human rights. they were strictly hard core, fascist reactionaries who tried to destroy the progressive, hippie peace movement of the 60s. and they all sucked! sorry johnny. like rap, punk sucks BIG TIME! but new wave was MUCH BETTER!
when the Beatles were in Germany the nightclub manager would feed them beers all night and demand that they "make show" meaning go nuts on stage....that's what the audience expected from rock n roll groups
That's what seedy Hamburg club owners expected from their imported talent.
Too bad he never got to listen to Joy Division …unless that was on the tape
Wow, must be cool for a guy to get him tapes to listen to
If "Cold Turkey" isn't a protopunk song, I don't know what is.
Heavier and more raw !!!
Being from New York , I’m so happy John Lennon decided to move here .. this is a place we’re no matter how famous you are people don’t care they might wave but it’s such a fast paced life people don’t bother you. .. he must of loved it here .
Nice too think Lennon liked the sex pistols and early punk! I wonder what he would of thought about Ozzy Osbourne!! Or even oasis!! Probably wudda sued oasis for plagiarism 🤣🤣🤣
Madness gets his seal of approval. Right on!!
I bet he would have loved Soundgarden
A great bit of JL I hadn't heard. Makes me furious to think of what else he would've given us...
This just confirms what I believed all along. Very early Hamburg era Beatles were very punk.
This made my day! Thanks for sharing this historical sound bite.
My pleasure :)
The thought of John Lennon listening to Lene Lovich makes me grin. I'll bet Yoko was like, "Oh, I like her."
THEY SUCKED ...................... BIG TIME
What an interview. He's a fan of Madness
Andy Peebles was the interviewer.
So john was proto-proto punk
Funny thing is if you look at some old pictures of the Beatles in Hamburg in 1960 or 61 they looked a lot like a punk band like the Sex Pistols with the leather jackets and dour looks not the smiling lads were all know and love now.
I can just hear John in 1983 ... "Pawl's been playin' stuff with that Jackson 5 kid when he should be chatting with that Prince fellow."
Reminds me of a 1972 interview with John where he actually referred to "Little Stevie Wonder".
Imagine what he’d say today... “So, uh, John Lennon, what do you think of Cardi B?”
John was the most punk of the Beatles, his songs had that rawness
Yeah he probably liked punk. Being a rebellious guy himself, he would have loved it haha
New wave John would’ve been cool
That's really it, The Beatles were the original Punks long before a lot of people. Just listen to that Germany bootleg and you will instantly notice that it was a whole different thing before money came in. It always amazes me how far Epstein gone with the polishing of these children of England workers into the melodic powerhouse the Beatles ended up being. Funny to notice that the absolute opposite thing happened to the Stones as Lood Oldham made midle class kids became the most bad ass tough guys of the sixties. Gotta love them both, of course, but history can be very funny and somewhat unfair when carefully seem.
You are exaggerating. Firstly, only two of the Stones were middle class and never were they anything of the kind of tough guys. What Oldham did do is create the false illusion that they were potentially dangerous if around anyone's daughter, with his press release "would you let your daughter marry a Rolling Stone" and their garage forecourt bust for having a pee against a wall - except for Charlie Watts. After three years and Oldham's departure, by 1967 all five of them were very much middle class with their fancy cars and new homes tucked away out in the wealthy suburbs.
@@apollomemories7399 My point it's simpler than that. To me it's just funny that the Beatles ended up being the cute guys when they really were banned from some small city during the US tour for orgies and stuff like that. It took Epstein a lot of effort to make these guys go through time as "lovely boys".
@@Leonard00000000 As a matter of fact, Epstein had to make very little effort. In the UK, the press and BBC Radio loved them. In the US, Ed Sullivan loved them too, and it looked very much like most of the nation agreed with him. So, absolutely no worries at all for Epstein on that front.
It probably wouldn't have been too difficult to get banned from some small city in the US, given the profoundly unreasonsable levels of religious doctrine as practiced back then in almost all areas mid-west, southern, and north-east. About the only safe zones were both coasts and Philly and Chicago. I think you'd find their early visits to Europe, particularly Scandinavia, to be far more "interesting" in that respect.
Wow. I can't believe I am just hearing this. Long live John Lennon, a true Artist.
Huge shout out to John's co-worker Fred... Who has the most unfortunate last name in history.
Billy Joel said he regrets not getting with John in the late 70's. He thought he would eventually get around to it someday.
eww gross. that is one name that does not fit with the others mentioned here
Well, he already knew only the good die young............
Madness B-52s Pretenders etc all now household names.
Crazy to think of all the music he hasn't heard.
He didnt need to....He invented it
And that the last he heard was also a pistol's song
@@finianlacy8827 wheesht
Truth of the matter is punk and the Beatles weren’t worlds apart. But what would John think of rappers?😂
Billy Idol covered "Gimme Some Truth"
so what
The Beatles song 'Taxman' had plenty of punk spirit
Man its just strange to me I was a little boy in 1980 and loved John Lennon and a few years later John Belushi died and they are such pop culture icons we were in shock even the kids that they had died.
John Lennon's greatest hit? Mark chapman's bullet
I wonder what John would think of these new mumble rap trap idiots. He'd do his self in.
Lennon came of age in the 60s, but continued to look forward. He had a fondness for the 60s, but could appreciate new music. Many of his contemporaries were not so liberated. A few years ago I watched a UTUBE interview being given by Devo's Mark Mothersbaugh on the one time(I think) he ''met '' John Lennon after a Devo show. I think the band were piling their gear into a van when a face suddenly appeared and stuck itself to the passenger side of the van. Turned out it was Lennon,royally pissed and babbling some of the 'da-da-da-da' from Devo's ''Uncontrollable Urge,'' the first track on their first lp(I have a copy). He was a fan and Mothersbaugh admitted the riff was tweaked from ''I Wanna Hold Your Hand.'' I think this chance meeting happened in LA. Go figure.
He actually _came of age_ in the 50s. They're the years beginning in puberty and ending when you become an adult.
That's actually not a stretch, if you listen to the opening chord structure of both songs. Very similar, I can see that.
John always had a bit of a grudge after the fact that he “adapted” himself to get the record contract by changing how they dressed, behaved and most importantly - sounded. He didn’t mind while it was happening and they had the success they did, but once bands like the Stones go successful and we’re able to spin their story as bad boys and back it up in their much rawer playing, it pissed John off inside. By 65 and definately in 66, he in particular started to embrace his true self and project it externally as well through his songs (help) and his opinions (bigger then Christ). And when folks rebelled because good Beatles lads were not supposed to misbehave, it posed him off even more. Good on him. Deep down, he was really just pissed with himself for not being himself all the way through. Regardless, a legend in my book
Very sad to say that John Lennon would die two days after this interview.
I am a Liverpudlian age 72 now & 2 dates are locked into my head, the day JFK was assainated & Johns.
@@hookywookywithmalarkyman704 the Two Johnnies. ( I’m second generation Canadian Montreal grew up with British everything including the telly) somehow I think John L would have seen the humor. I’m 60 and it hit me when he died. I grew up from 3 years old with them being played constantly by my older sister. Even saw them land at Doval (Montreal) airport with my family in 64 when I was 3. They were the musical backdrop of my formative years.
@@johngore7744 I live Thailand now last 17 years & folks love my scouse accent, take care bro !
They tried all of that out in their cavern days. It jus weren't selling records.
I know just what he means, taping over stuff. I did it too on all my TDK tapes when all I wanted to hear was rock steady and reggae. Just like John!
I never heard in any John Lennon interviews that he ever mention on his opinion of the band The Police.
John was every bit a real down to earth kind of guy,that enjoyed living life and wanted to break into the music scene all over again.He was beginning to be a whole new John Lennon ,promoting others not just himself. God knows what his future plans held,but one thing is for sure ....... He was in full control and really for more to come.Missing you so John!💜
Sounds like he BSing to me. He’s got no clue what or who he’s talking about.
Great to hear Lennon speak of Madness. One of the UK's most underrated bands
Wow! Listening to John talk about the B52's and madass is wild.
He always sounds like he's defending himself, to me. Always sounds like he thinks he's being attacked.
Might have had something to do with J. Edgar Hoover having been out to get him in the early to mid 1970's. Hoover was still FBI director when he died in 1976.
@@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry That and I think he had aome serious abandonment issues with his dad leaving and his mom dying ypung and all. He had alot of emotional/ mental health issues from these things not to mention all the drugs. All that can definitely make someone alot more caustic. Kurt Cobain is also a good example of that sorta thing.
I would like to see his reaction with artists like Sting , Snoop Dog , or Justin Beiber.
“I dig it.”
Like a rolling stone
@@Danjoker. Matt Busby.
Lene Lovich, hugely underrated check out The Bird Song
Mark Mothersbaugh's story about meeting John Lennon briefly after a Devo concert is worth seeking out. If I'm not mistaken he talks about it on the WTF podcast.
They were all men. Doo doo doo doo.
John's hatred toward Trump would have been a force of nature.
I believe that John had a very high IQ.
That's what's fun about listening to him.
It just flows out. JohnYoko4Ever
He was highly intelligent, you can just tell
@@Beatlestories Thx
Lennon sounds like someone who was already out of touch by the mid 70s
The name of the Ramones and the cover of their first album (the first true punk album) are direct homages to that Beatles Hamburg era. How are they not gonna like it?
This is mind-blowing, john mentioning the B-52s! I really forgot that they got started way ealy on. Crazy.
He was still tuned in for sure
Yoko said she thinks John would of loved Rap. I hope it’s not true.
Me neither.
Yoko would say he would have loved Justin Bieber if she could sniff a sell in there. As loving a widow as she is, she's a shameless huckster
you've become the old man who hated that "rock n roll" you liked
I am from Liverpool and he beat women. FACT. I am fed up with people either ignoring this fact or refusing to accept it. Now as we say in Liverpool... DO ONE.
Only an idiot beats his own woman. It's like keying your own car.
John still missed
This was recorded litrally 2 days before he was murdered..
excellent stuff
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Funny the way he says he was closed minded about the new music, I was born in Liverpool in the mid 60's, so by the time I was old enough to go to gigs, like 12-13, when I'd go and see all the punk and new wave bands at places like Eric's when they had the matinee on a Saturday afternoon, as someone who was the next generation after the Beatles and all the Merseybeat stuff, I wasn't interested in it. I was completely closed minded about the Beatles music and didn't start to listen to it until I was in my mid 30's.
“We all want to change the world. But when you talk about destruction, don’t you know that you you can count me out…in”
~ John Lennon • Revolution
It's true the Beatles WERE the bad boys of R&R before Brian got ahold of them & cleaned them up. So what the sex pistols were doing wasn't anything new. Been done before.