I believe Paul too. I think John had come full circle by 1980. In fact, on December 8, 1980, it was reported that John told a journalist this about Paul: “He’s like a brother. I love him. Families, we certainly have our ups and downs and quarrels. But at the end of the day, when it’s all said and done, I would do anything for him. I think he would do anything for me.”
If this were true, Paul would’ve brought this up 20+ years ago. You don’t sit on something like this for this long just to “matter of factly” bring it up.
Why do you believe Paul? He is inclined towards flattery, vanity, and delusion. He is the one that never wanted the Beatles broken up and wanted a reunion. He is probably projecting his own feelings onto John. He willingly deludes himself about let it be sessions. He can’t be trusted. He even defines lying as something not whitewashing,
I'm reminded of: "We Can Work it Out." My favorite Christmas was when, as an 8 year old I received 'Beatles '65,' and I played it on our old Fisher Hifi. One of many indelible memories of The Beatles' love songs. They taught me to love girls, even before I knew about holding hands. So glad that Paul & Ringo are still with us. The innovation they brought to music will never be matched. I'm old and poor, but I'm happy with my memories.
John did some interviews sometime around 1975 where he talked about the Beatles getting back together. He said if someone else arranged it, he would do it. He said they had almost gotten together a few other times, but each time someone else was busy or didn’t want to do it right then, but that all four of them had wanted to do it at different times. They just had to find a time when all four wanted to do it at the same time. You can find the interview on RUclips, usually cut up into bits, but John is wearing a striped scarf. I was surprised to also find some video of George saying he hoped the Beatles would record together again sometimes. I think this was more early 70s.
Yes, I've seen that. I don't have a link handy, but I can confirm that what you describe here is quite accurate. It isn't unthinkable that in this mood he said "C'mon, let's do it" to Paul.
I think SNL was the best opportunity around that time. IIRC, John and Paul were at John's place in NY, and George was the musical guest that week. Lorne Michaels had been making a joke about offering the Beatles $3000 to reunite on the show, and John and Paul on a whim thought they should show up. But then one of them got tired, and decided against it. But the point is, there was no personal animosity that stopped them from ever playing together again. It would have happened eventually, but for John's assassination.
My takeaway from Peter Jackson's GET BACK is that Paul was the guy who worked hard to keep the band together, but that John and George were done. John, because Yoko was the new center of his world, and George so he could get his music heard. Paul was no villain and the rest were no saints. They were just 4 nice brillant young guys who needed to grow up, and Beatles had become a middle school fraternity arresting their development. They graduated and moved on to what was most important to each of them.
Not everyone is saying Paul was a villain and the others were saints. You seem to gloss over the fact that Paul was directing everything and the others were not keen on that. Paul didn't seem to want to accept much compromise. No one can claim that what Paul wanted in Get Back made any sense. Here is what Paul wanted and it's pretty crazy: They all show up at start of Jan '69 to perform what they believe to be a live concert of White Album songs for a tv show. When they show up, Paul tells them that instead they are creating a brand new album of 14 songs that need to be written and rehearsed for a live concert at the end of the month. Paul also wants to travel to another country for the concert and possibly do it on a ship at sea. The fact that Ringo is currently filming a movie with Peter Sellers doesn't deter Paul. Of course, Paul has already shown up with some material that he'd been working on because he knew what he wanted to do. Right away, Lennon tells Paul that he should have told him so he could have been working on some songs. The other 3 probably should have told Paul off right there and said that they will only do the White Album songs as planned. And that would have been an amazing concert to see. I think we were robbed. Why the others even tried to go along with Paul's crazy plan, I have no idea. No way an Epstein or Martin would have come up with something like this. It seems the biggest issue they had is the other 3 even trying to do what Paul asked. For the entire Get Back, the other 3 are constantly waiting to see whether Paul was happy or not with every single idea. I can see why the other 3 got so frustrated, but it was their fault for even trying to go along with it to satisfy Paul in the first place. Lennon even said to Paul in that private conversation that he had become somewhat scared of Paul. This is ultimately why everything fell apart. They did get back together and do Abbey Road properly which shows what they could still do as long as it was managed in the right way. The Let It Be sessions were doomed from the start.
sounds about right. George needed space and was becoming Hindu. John balls were in Yoko's purse and veered into political activism. Ringo just wanted a job. Paul took over after Epstein died because no one else was doing it, creating a power imbalance.
@@BaronVonMunch that may have been the motive for John to have Yoko in the studio then. as a silent counterweight to Paul's dominance. other artists have reported Paul's pushiness in the studio.
@@BaronVonMunchPaul didn’t want to go on a boat or to another country. Micheal Lindsey Hogg tried to get them to do it but Paul is heard very clearly telling him no because they don’t want to. Also they were only on a tight schedule because of Ringo’s movie. If any one of them truly didnt want to do it, all they had to do was tell Paul no. They didn’t though so it’s not Paul’s fault. Also Paul wasn’t secretly preparing material for the project that he knew he wanted to do. He was always writing so those were just songs he had around. It’s a crazy idea to do it that fast but they all went along with it. Paul can work fast so it wasn’t crazy to him and they should have said something if they didnt want to do it Also it was Paul who was unsatisfied with the way the Get Back project turned out. Paul went to George Martin to have him come back and properly record an album like they used to, which is how we got Abbey Road
The best thing the Beatles did was NOT getting back together. A reunion couldn't possibly have satisfied people's expectations. Leave the legend alone.
You don’t know that. They could have made their best song ever. Your ego is outta hand to state that as a fact. You can’t predict imaginary history outcomes
Always leave your audience wanting more. It ended the best way it could have, and people will continue wanting more until there's no one left who remembers why they wanted more. All things begin and end.
@@fastesteddiealiveand you don’t know that either. It was magic what happened in 60s the bands that still ‘survive’ (if you call it that) are all only trying to chase that high again 😂
@@thewalrus6833 except there are plenty of taped interviews. John in particular gave long interviews. Listen and learn. He said in at least one he didn’t object to getting back together. He said one of the others would have to arrange it. Paul I’m guessing since he’s the one that got things done after Brian died.
@@Rkw772 I've been following The Beatles since I was 13 yrs old, I'm 73 now, I think I've seen and heard most of the interviews of all four of them. They all said different things at different times, John in particular. My point is it doesn't matter now, it's all in the past and two of them are no longer with us, so just enjoy the music.
their contributions to music, culture, and humanity can not be overstated. even their early songs still sound good today and in the old videos you can see how much fun they were having. Heaven sent.
Maybe, but at that time, John was seeing a lot of Paul in person, so they wouldn't have needed to talk on the phone. It could be that it was a totally impulsive thing by John, so he called Paul rather than talking to him in person because he didn't happen to be with Paul when the impulse hit him.
@@stephentaylor5500 Paul and John had spoken on the phone in 1980. Can I prove that? No. But it is known. Google "when was the last time John Lennon And Paul mccartney spoke on the phone" it will say early 1980. although the only person who would know that answer is Paul.
Yeah there really isn't any news here. It is well known that they hung out quite a few times when he was away from Yoko. They were planning on meeting up again, but after John went back with Yoko everything changed. And another time when Paul showed up at John and Yoko's place in NY, Lennon angrily sent him away saying he couldn't just show up. Basically, as long as John was with Yoko there was very little chance he and Paul would do anything together even if John had considered it. Yoko also continually says that Paul likes to believe what he wants to believe about what John felt near the end. Without Yoko they certainly could have done more together, with her around there was pretty much no chance.
@@lennon1252 he told him he really liked his song Coming Up. John said he liked the funky version but Paul said the record company wanted the rock version.
Supposedly, and I've not been able to confirm this outside the video that presented this allegation, Jack Douglas, John's producer for Double Fantasy said that Paul and John wanted to write together again and had tried to book an LA studio for a session in December 1980 but that the studio was booked that month and they rescheduled for January 1981. If it weren't for John's assassination, it was going to happen. That's not a Beatles reunion, George and Ringo weren't involved, but to have two of the greatest songwriters trying to work together again on some songs would've been a real treat.
If George would make a lot of money he would be all for it. By the late 70s his music was on the decline. People didn't want any of his Hare Krishna shit.
I think George by the middle 70s had enough of the solo stuff and the Beatles enjoyed being the best band in the world, their egos could handle the fame, and they probably had no doubts of their talents and ability.
@@philwillett9102 Like I said, his music was on the decline. You could have gone with his single in 1981 "All Those Years Ago" that made it to number 2 in the US, but that was on the wave of love for John Lennon after his death. Or with "Got My Mind Set On You" which made it to number 1 in 1987, but he didn't write that song. I liked a few of his songs after the early 70s, but he was on the decline. They were less frequent and mostly less impressive. He may have even had one or two good songs with the Travelling Wilburys. So I still say since his music was on the decline he would have been more open to cashing in with The Beatles again.
@@TheSteveGainesRockBand All Those Years Ago was good, it didn't do well because of Lennon's death. If George wanted to write a Beatles' like song, he could. He didn't want to do it much during his solo career. Paul's music was far worse after 1980 so I'm not sure what good it would do unless John and George could convince him to write better songs.
Paul and John had spoken on the phone in 1980 about getting together and writing some songs together, and for Ringo but the studios were closed for the holidays so they planned to do it after New Year's. But unfortunately John died 😢
If you watch the May Peng documentary, John was never against the idea of the Beatles reuniting. Especially mid 70s when John and Paul forgave eachother and was willing to perform together post breakup. John just wanted his space. Wanting more personal freedoms and luxuries that being showcased as a Beatle wouldn't satisfy. Even though the members signed liquidation for the Beatles in Disney land, John was the last member to sign because he had reservations about doing so. George would have been much harder to reconciliate. I believe in the early 70s George would only consider a Beatles reunion possible if solo careers would presume simultaneously. Being a Beatle is a young man's game and the Beatles shouldn't reunite and tarnish their great legacy.
@@Mozart1220 That's probably the only thing I do know - besides that he lost his guitar chops because he wouldn't practice - and he was stabbed by a burglar.
John mentioned in a People Mag cover story from 1976-Will the Beatles reunite for 50 million? He said he was all for it. That breaking up was a mistake in many ways.
He said he'd never do it for the money, but if there was new MUSIC to be made and they were ALL exited about doing it, no problem. Too many just wanted a "live show', which Lennon had no interest in. He and Paul nearly dropped in on Saturday Night live" the night George was on, but decided they were "too tired". Yeah, weed will do that. LOL
Didn`t the Beatles officially exist in 1976, at least as a `business`? Paul was suing the others and his money was tied up so badly he could hardly pay his Wings people anything. The idea of undoing all that for a reunion? Somebody owned the Beatles name, and it probably wasn`t them. They could play together but i don`t think they`d`ve been `The Beatles.` That was a dissolved business...done. The rest was hype.
@@barryledgister4496 Apple Corps still exists, owned by The Beatles or their estates. Apple Corps on average distributes about $50 million a year, sometimes less, sometimes more, depending on any current releases or re-releases of music, films, etc.
@@barryledgister4496 Indeed so - there was a lot of unfinished business. The original court case (centring on Allen Klein's management) was filed and won by Paul in 1970-1; the dissolution of the partnership was separate and the terms not agreed by all four until 1976 (- even then John was not present at the date agreed citing some garbage about the stars not being right - the sure hand of Yoko, I fear) but eventually signed later). In such a context Paul was highly unlikely to open this pandora's box again and I don't blame him.
@@28johann1 Get past Yoko. It's been over 50 years. Give it a rest. You DO realize that Yoko was a shrewd businesswoman who made a FORTUNE for John with investments, right? She should have managed the Beatles.
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I believe Paul. There was one Lennon documented interview walking on the shore where John was saying he's open to the idea, he could call the guys and say let's get together and do something but he didn't want to do it just to do it. If it happens, it happens.
May Pang has said that in 1974 John was talking about wanting to write with Paul again. Also, there’s supposedly a sworn affidavit that John signed (1980-ish) saying he had plans to reunite the Beatles… he wrote it as part of a legal action against the tribute band Beatlemania.
Absolutely true. Lennon’s comments were a piece of evidence the in the Apple Computer vs Apple Corp. lawsuit. I was working at Apple Computer during that lawsuit. Lennon’s affidavit was also part of the evidence of the Beatles plans to do the Anthology series even though it wasn’t called that yet in 1979. The Beatles were saying their Apple trademark was still valid and would be used again in the future. The Beatles won that lawsuit.
@@MichaelWhelan-p9u A great way to get back together, a Ringo album, no pressure of a "new Beatles album". Lennon was actually in awe of McCartney, said so up to his death.
When Paul negotiated his contract with Columbia Records he put in a stipulation that he could record with the Beatles or as the Beatles if it were warranted. Indicating that it was in the back of his mind that it could happen. Even in late 1980 John talked about everyone contributing songs to a Ringo album and it was speculated that it was a cover for a potential Beatles reunion
Yes, Apple Computer had at one point claimed the Apple Corp ‘Apple’ trademark was no longer valid because Apple records had ceased to function. Remember, this is years before CD’s and re-releases. So Apple Corp entered into evidence Lennon’s statement, made just before he died, that the Beatles intended to record again for a Beatles retrospective project.
Not if Yoko was around. She would always manage to prevent it from happening, it's pretty clear she did not want Lennon spending much time around Paul. Some even think she set up Paul in the drug charge in Japan. I wouldn't doubt it.
Not with yoko big mouth advice in it, she brain washed john into breaking up the band and Paul even said that in a interview with Howard stern, he said john wanted it to be done and it was her fault for screwing with John’s head 😡
I can only imagine this happening between 1972-1974 specially in the Mind Games era, when John was with May Pang and giving interviews saying "maybe" and starting getting annoyed with Alan klein. after Band On the Run came out Paul could see himself building a solid career after the Beatles and probably was still getting over it as we know he went to a dark place after the band break up until at least 1971. Maybe he wasn't afraid of getting back together but going through another break up
The "Toot and a Snore" jam tape, available here on RUclips, has John saying to pass around the nose candy and barely discernible interchanges after John called across the room to Paul, who was on drums. John couldn't get everyone out of the complimentary blow. He said, "Let's do SOMETHING, who's got any ideas?" Something to that effect. But the tape of John singing the demo "Now and Then", had in John's handwriting, "For Paul" on the tape. The fact that The Beatles were going to get back together, and tour (after an album, I'd wager) was a Fait accompli. This makes the assassination of John all the more heartbreaking, if one can imagine (no pun intended) that.
@@michaelg1060 Problem is Yoko didn't want this. The only time Lennon spent more time with Paul was when he was away from Yoko. May Pang loved the idea of the Beatles getting back together. As soon as John went back with Yoko, he canceled a meeting he had planned with Paul. And later when Paul showed up at their NY place, Lennon angrily told Paul he couldn't just show up there whenever he wanted. Yoko would always be a problem and there wasn't much evidence that Lennon would ever leave her. Yoko still says crap about Paul and the other Beatles until this day. Now she's complaining that Paul, George and Ringo never said good things about her back then because they were bigots that hated her because she was a woman. She was and is insane.
@@BaronVonMunch I don't know why no one has really ever seriously looked at Yoko being behind John's murder. She already had a new boyfriend and moved him in right quick after 12-8-80. HE wore John's clothes, and Yoko, of course, got EVERYTHING. I have always suspected she had a lot more to do with it than people are comfortable with saying, for some reason.
@@BaronVonMunch Insane and I would add evil. What she did to Julian, who'd done nothing to Yoko. Julian had to fight for YEARS to get part of what he deserved from his father's estate.
Yes, it broke the hearts, especially, of those who grew up with John's (and The Beatles) music. Mass media, and the nature of celebrity, gives the illusion that you know someone. And, when the someone is killed, it can have a powerful emotional effect. John belonged to the public, and one publicity seeking, selfish little b*stard, took him away from all of us.
Every musical era has had its heartache and tragic losses. Glenn Miller, Benny Goodman, Patsy Cline,Richie Vallens, Buddy Holly, The Big Bopper, Sam Cooke, Hendrix, Joplin, Morrison, Cobain, Geez.. The list is long and sad. But… For those of us who grew up with and loved The Beatles,and especially John Lennon in this case, the pain of his tragic murder never goes away. Thank goodness the music endures.
I think Paul and John as well as George too liked the freedom from the cage and pressure of always having to write Beatles songs. John Paul George and Beatles fans knew what a Beatles song was. You would listen to the solo work of John Paul and George and immediately identify oh these 2 or 3 songs were Beatles songs and the rest did not measure up. They all knew which of their songs were Beatles songs and which were not. Finally they were able to breath and write what pleased them and show the full spectrum of their songwriting gifts.
According to May Pang, John wanted to at the very least work with Paul again, however when he got back together with Yoko, Yoko thought that it was a bad idea. There is a video of John and Yoko a few years later in central park where a guy asks when The Beatles are getting back together and John responds enthusiastically "tomorrow!". He was joking but I think that it was something that was on his mind. Had he not gotten back together with Yoko, it might have happened but who knows.
Well, all you need to do is ask Paul! He's still alive, so damn it, put an interview together & let's her him give the full story. Date , place, and the nature of the conversation...
Yes, I think it was to "accept" Lorne Michael's offer of three thousand dollars for the Beatles to reunite on SNL. George, playing along, said the offer was "chintzy" to Michaels on the show.
As John said. It never got to a moment where all 4 wanted it at once. Which means there was also moments where one of them wanted to. So, totally believable.
RE: Getting The Beatles back together... John's idea. We'll never know for sure. I'm guessing Paul is telling the truth about this. John seemed pretty impulsive and would often say whatever was on his mind... in the moment. So, it's easy to see John riding that idea, as it popped up, and calling Paul. Paul always seemed a little more cautious and reflective. Clearly, the band's breakup was painful for him, kind of like ending a marriage.
It was probably during John’s “lost weekend” with Harry Nilsson, when Yoko had set him loose with her assistant in tow. Supposedly he’d bounced the idea of her first, she loved it, but when he returned to Yoko, she shot it down. It could very well have been in the form of “Paul is right, don’t do it.”
There was a John interview where he said, "oh, why not? But then someone else would be against it". Again, the man died way too young. So, we will never really know.
Lets be honest. The Beatles would have done all kinds of projects together over the years if they all survived. I'm not surprised that John suggested it, and I'm not suprised Paul wasn't ready. But I think around the time Free as a Bird came out they might have put out something, then again around the time Now and Then came out.
Paul, and I love him, but he is a revisionist history guy. All the stuff John got credit for such as being the artsy one in the mid-60s, Paul made a point to make sure everyone knew John was on the hill being married and Paul was the one walking around in bare feet and doing backwards tape loops and stuff. Haha. Right. And now to suggest that John called him, it smacks of a revision that paints John as desperate, in need of getting the band back together, while Paul blows him off.
In 1979 I read an amusing article in a music magazine. Apparently, Paul McCartney contacted John Lennon and asked if he wanted to write a new song together. Lennon apparently replied 'no I already have enough money'. I think The Beatles would have reunited for the occasional concert such as Live Aid in 1985. I doubt very much that they would have gone on a full international tour. I believe the world tours between 1964 and 1966 were a big challenge to them mentally and emotionally. The very last Beatles concert was in San Francisco in 1966. They recorded new music in the last four years they were together up to 1970 but they never toured again.
Well, my drummer in the 80s was working at the studio where Paul was recording 'Venus And Mars'. Paul had called John to get him to come down....and he almost did. Not a Beatles reunion, but we know what John and Paul can produce together without anyone else. (See 'The Ballad Of John And Yoko') Yoko took the blame for John not going, of course, though it could have been any number of other things, IMO.
I don't believe this story for a second. I've been following The Beatles since 1980 and over 44 years, I have NEVER heard about this. Lennon wanted a solo career, he wanted to raise his son and he wanted to grow closer to Yoko. He was done with the band.
Ringo was the only one who would have had a chance to make them get back together because he was the glue that kept them together even when he left during the white album they all got together to ask him to return they needed him to hold those big egos together
You're right. The only way I could have pictured them reuniting (had they lived long enough) was at one of Ringo's All Star Band shows. Maybe run out and do an encore together. Getting together under the "B" name brought too much baggage. But as the latest iteration of the ASB, it could have worked. Mainly, I think, because John and George would found it funny. And Paul wouldn't want to be left out.
There are other things Lennon said when Beatlemania started regarding copyright issues as there was talk of them getting together. Also them being in his apartment talking about going on the set of SNL during a show. It would have happened had John lived.
From people that were around John stated he did go back-and-forth I've heard it several times over the years. That being said for legal reasons they couldn't get together. Paul couldn't come into the states John couldn't leave. Also it's been confirmed that they were planning on getting together following Christmas the year he died. I don't think as a band though. I think they were apprehensive as even Beatle fans were that they would be scrutinized terribly if they came back as the Beatles. I also believe in that last interview that he and Yoko did the day he died or the day before he died he stated he was going to be working with Paul. In an interview one of his assistance had said that he followed everything that Paul did. John had done an interview in 1980 where he said oh he doesn't pay attention to wings or any of that. But that it just wasn't true he followed him closely. I think it's so sad that he did not show Paul the support to see him at Madison Square, Gardens for wings over America. Evidently one of their psychic said that Paul had invited him just to rub it in. I think Paul was proud and did want his dear friend there to support him. John did say how great he thought wings was but he said it was not wings it was McCartney. He said so many complementary things about Paul throughout that 10 years. It's just said it never got as much Press as when he'd be in one of his moodsand say something mean. It's just really too bad for him for them and all of us
The only times I heard John say anything about any form of reunion. Was the interview walking on the beach with Elliot Mintz when asked point blank. John replied...Well, ya never know. Then, the other was in another interview. He said he'd be open to doing a project like recording some material. But no to any kind of touring.. Quote.. Touring is a drag!!!
It reminds me of the scene from The Blues Brothers, The scene where Jake and Elwood are in the lounge and they're pitching getting the band back together to the rest of the band. What always strikes me about that scene is that every musician, I don't care how big or how small you are, every musician has been on both sides of that conversation. And why would the Beatles be any different?
I think it's true, I've seen other videos that John literally days before his death spoke with Paul about a reunion of sorts, and apparently, from this source, Yoko confirmed it, but my response to this is, first I believe both stories, but the wildcard in the room was George, I think no way no how, he would have done it...
John was definitely up for a reunion. In the Elliot Mintz interview with John on the beach in Malibu, John flat out says he'd be in as long as he didn't have to organize it. Paul was at one of his post-Beatles creative peaks during that time period and was not as nostalgic as John for a reunion in the mid 70s.
There was never any bullshit from the Beatles, an honest early career, an honest breakup and honest individual careers. Never a thought to get back together just to make more money. They have integrity and authenticity as well as an uncommon brilliance.
Not sure if anyone else mentioned it, but there was the night that John called Paul after SNL offered a bunch of money for a Beatles appearance (or something like that). The two guys hung out, played some music and, for a little while, actually contemplated going to the SNL studio and just popping in to play something. They quickly dismissed the idea, but for a few moments, John was really into it.
That was in April 1976 & was the last time they met. Paul & Linda spent an evening at the Dakota with John & Yoko. The last time J & P talked was a telephone conversation in January 1980. It was Macca who made the call. Paul continues to over-play their post- Beatles relationship to this day.
Good job. I didn't know about this. I extensively researched the Beatles from the day Paul and John met, until their performance on Ed Sullivan. I really know their background, but I didn't know about the phone call.
Personally I would have enjoyed seeing the Beatles reunite, but sadly George Harrison said that he would never be in a band again with Paul McCartney. George faced restrictions within the band that was imposed on him by McCartney and Lennon.
John's comment about fans wanting a Beatles reunion is sadly, tragically clueless...well, for my part anyway. For me, it wasn't at all about "reliving the past", or any such bullcrap. The truth is that those four guys made magic together. Every album was a giant leap forward. Wanting a reunion was a vote of confidence in their *_creativity_* - their ability to create something new and fresh and different. It had nothing to do with nostalgia or reliving the past. John did seem to have chilled out by 1980, so yeah...I can believe that maybe he thought it might be a gas to get the group back together - not necessarily as any kind of ongoing commitment, and certainly not for touring....well, almost certainly. The truth is that The Beatles' audience had matured by then, and the technology for doing live shows made it possible for bands to play giant venues with awesome sound for the audience and a great audio environment on stage. They would have been able to hear themselves. Hell...by 1980, I was one of the premier stage monitor mixers in the industry. I'd have volunteered to mix their stage monitors for free! 😎
Would the possibility of Paul,Ringo, Julian and Sean Lennon and Dhani Harrison getting together for a few shows? That would be AWESOME 👍 especially if The Evil One Yoko isn't involved in any part of such an endeavor!!
She has more artistic talent in her little finger than your whole body. She's 90 and sick and saw her husband murdered. Give your sophomoric, unoriginal rantings a rest, pal.
We know from audio interviews with Lennon he was very open to a reunion with McCartney at least. He said “we were the Beatles.” He might have said the opposite two days later. He often hanged his mind. My guess is that McCartney and Lennon would have written together again in the 1980’s. Paul might’ve been more receptive to a reunion in late 1980 or 1981 after he de facto ended Wings and released his solo album. I think they would’ve liked to have a go at the New Wave craze-they were 15+ years ahead of the curve.
I believe Paul. The work that Peter Jackson did to uncover the truth around the time of the Let It Be sessions gave both Ringo and Paul a blast of clarity and confirmation that they were in fact, even during the toughest bits, still insanely creative together. Friendly. Full of energy. And that those things co-existed right alongside frustrations, growing pains, and a desire for independence. To develop their own personas and lives outside of The Beatles. After the breakup, I believe that Paul and John were in their heads a lot about it all. If they had just gotten together even a few times, it very well could have been enough to clear the air. We already know that the phone calls were having that effect. And that in the end, they all still loved each other immensely. Like a family. There's something really beautiful about that amidst all the tragedy that would happen later.
I remember John and Paul use to joke about all the money being offered for a reunion.... They talked often on the phone and John would say "I won't get back together unless we each get 100 million dollars." And then Paul would say, "I'll get back together when we get paid one billion dollars" and back and forth it would go to see who was willing to pay the most.
That is not what I've always read. John was finished with the Beatles. And I believe he was. What really matters is that they got together in the first place. And made all that wonderful music.
Sure I believe McCartney, anyone can change their mind. Lennon knew he created some of the best music of his life with those guys, it's not hard to imagine he'd want to do that again. Remember it's said that TIME HEALS ALL WOUNDS.
John and Paul, and most likely Ringo could have come to an agreement, but I think for George, leaving The Beatles was liberating and a reunion was the last thing on his mind. He felt stifled with The Beatles and had many songs written over the years that were rejected by the rest of the band, which he was finally able to finish and release on his own. I think he would have been the hardest to convince, and one could hardly blame him.
Paul had invited John down to New Orleans where Paul had moved the family to record Venus and Mars as well as take in the Mardi Gras. John wrote a postcard to Apple press agent Derek Taylor that he was thinking about it. If he had gone down to NO with May, there;s no doubt there would have been some writing and musical contributions going on, just as John did with Harry Nilson and David Bowie. But John got back with Yoko and that killed any thoughts of joining Paul.
I'm pretty sure I remember John mention a few times in interviews, that at one time or another each member had tried to get it back together but there's was always be a different guy say, "no" I think John was into it, right around 1974 he had a #1 album and song and probably felt like he would be in a power position again. I remember reading in May Pangs book that John was going to met uo with McCartney in New Orleans (he was recording Venus and Mars) she had even booked a flight for the two of them and the next day John changed his mind. Maybe, he suggested it to McCartney then and once he rejected the idea he called off the trip. I guess we'll never know what really happened.
I don't believe for a minute that a reunion would have happened. John saying: "Why would I got back to collage?" is exactly it. They would stay friends but maybe get together for Live Aid but that's it. John had just gotten his muse back in Double Fantasy, Paul was happy with his own work. They grew content as solo artists and really didn't need to reunite.
Sorry, there's video of John Lennon discussing a Beatles reunion only if all four Beatles were in the same place at the same time and he said we would really want to all four of us want to do it. Paul McCartney's been slipping on his information here the last few years and I do not believe for one minute that John asked for a Beatles reunion and Paul said no. I do not believe that at all.
It could be that they just loosely talked about getting together again. That John Lennon just vented the idea - but actually didn't put so much seriousness into it.
@@tomrogerlilleby2890 If Yoko was around at the time, she would have derailed it at some point. It would have ended up with Lennon telling Paul to get the f out.
Even though I would never refer to Macca as a liar, I still don't put any stock in what is said here. Feel free to refer to this as a free association, but what I'm going on is the way Peter Cetera exited Chicago in 1985 and has refused since then to look back a lot of fans have clamored for Peter to perform live with Chicago again, even just for a song or two, and he won't do it. He did not even participate in their induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2016. By the same token, I have no confidence whatsoever that John would have wanted the Beatles to reunite in the time after we lost him. His posture was that they split up, and they all moved on. He might have occasionally titillated people with the idea of a reunion up until he stopped playing music all together when Sean was born, but I'm of a mind that there was not going to be a Beatles reunion for the same reason that Peter isn't going to reunite with Chicago. Simply put, The Beatles ended in 1970.
I suspect what Paul is alluding to is the Ringo Starr sessions that were booked for January 1981..... Paul was (unofficially) producing Ringo's "Can't Fight Lightening" (what would become "Stop and smell the roses").... Paul and Ringo had worked together on 5-6 songs in July 1980, and apparently Paul was going to be at the 1981 sessions in New York to record the stuff John was there. Its probably something around that he is meaning
The Beatles may have reunited for something like Live Aid. And, of course, they may have done something together for the Anthology. But I don't think they would have reunited as the Beatles just to put out an album. I do think we would probably have seen smaller collaborations where 1 or more would appear on the others' records. (This actually did happen, but never between John and Paul.)
More McCartney baloney. Not buying it. Why isn't George Harrison considered in Paul's ramblings? In 1974 he said he would never play with Paul again because of musical differences. I don't believe for one second his claim that John asked him for a Beatles reunion. If, (in some parallel reality) he did, the Beatles still could not have reunited without Harrison's consent.
I dont believe it either. Paul has a tendency to embellish stories and change them as the decades go on. I do remember John, the day he was killed, in an interview that was audio recorded how he had just gotten his haircut like in the old days like the Beatles wore it. He was asked about a reunion and he said yes to the interviewer but I dont believe John asked Paul to do it.
Nor can I imagine Paul saying no if John did ask. I think Paul would have liked nothing more than to reunite, at least with John, to create music as Lennon/McCartney. I don't think George was interested at all.
Paul was trying HARD to get into the Double Fantasy sessions. John planned to write with him in January. There's a clip on YT somewhere with Art Garfunkel talking about giving John advice on it, based on him playing with Paul Simon again.
Linda said that Paul "desperately" wanted to write with John again sometime close to John's death. So...maybe not get the band together again but he sure wanted to write with John.
John and Paul played together in L.A. in 1974. Paul even wrote a song about it. John was AWAY from Yoko at that time....THAT would have been the time. Paul doesn't give a DATE for when this phone call happened so....who knows.
True, but the heart of the band was always John and Paul, and a reunion of just those 2 or maybe them and Ringo would have been enough for me. George was a dour sourpuss who threw a wet blanket on all band projects. It wouldn’t have been exactly the same without him, but it wouldn’t have been all that different with a different lead guitarist.
@@Henry-z1y1c As a Beatle fan myself I'll have to agree with you about George and it's even hard for me to say this but here goes. George is where fun goes to die.
@@jayclarke5466 George clearly made contributions with some (but not all that many) songs he wrote. He also harmonized well with the others. His guitar playing was average at best. George was pissed off, with justification, that he wasn’t respected by John and Paul and that they treated him as their kid brother. His response was to try and prevent the group from doing anything, and he got them to stop touring. Overall, hard to say if he was a net positive or negative to the group. If it was up to me, I would have tried to keep him in the group, and as a part of any reunion. But if he was unwilling or created issues, I would have had no problem finding someone else. It would have been easy to find a better guitarist.
I dunno... Paul is rather weird in interviews; I mean come on - driving that boat and speaking through the cabin window in Anthology was downright bizarre. It lacked consideration for the viewer and his concentration was flippant. So yeah, he could have said it, because he says too much at times without forethought. Macca on John Lennons assassination, 'yeah, it's a drag.' Ugh. John, however, and I am biased as he my fab fav - wanted very much to rerecord some of his Beatle's favorites. I believe in the Playboy interview he talked about touring for Double Fantasy and then rerecording Help and Strawberry Fields with Ringo. Would he have enlisted the other two to get it to his vision? Who knows. But we lost more than John the person on 12/8/80, we also lost his promised production - that he would be giving the fans more and that he wanted back on the merry-go-round on his terms. On the reverse side, he famously said he never truly profited the way Paul had post Beatle years. He never did a Plastic Ono Band over America tour, nor did any POB TV specials. He was not wired that way. Paul to this day most certainly loves the fame train. John's appearances were at peace benefits and bet payoffs - with EJ at MSG being his last live performance. Who knows, it would have been great to experience the re-emergence of an 80's Lennon.
@@piscesman54 And what part is biased? I am listing facts from John's Playboy interview. John said he wanted to rerecord Help and Strawberry Fields and Ringo agreed to be on the session. Try reading it. Also, I am stating that John was my fav fab. That is not biased. That is honest. Perhaps Paul is your fav. That is awesome. No bias or malice on my part. My most biased thought was that Paul is not considerate of his fans and has gone on record saying a lot of bizarre things over the past 61 years. Here is another bias thought, Paul has poor recollection when speaking off the cuff. Can you recall a conversation when you were 24 verbatim? No, I don't think so. Humans, no matter how famous are not wired that way. I am sorry if I offended your sensibilities, but I do not apologize for any perceived bias. Peace and Love.
a. I love Paul, and I believe him, but... b. I don't find this "revelation" all that earth shattering. c. Normally when I hear Paul speak today about the Beatles days, he routinely looks and sounds like he's making up things as he goes along. d. This video makes it obvious that most of the "John hated the Beatles and would never have gotten back together" narrative was fueled and created by the press. Listen to that one interviewer trying to put words into John's mouth.
I've heard Paul talking about this before and he said that he was riding high with Wings at the time this was suggested and he felt some sort of revenge in vetoing the reunion. I don't blame him given the behaviour of the other three against him. They'd all aligned with Alan Klein and almost lost everything they'd worked for.
I'm no post 80s Paul fan (Paul of the Beatles and the 70s absolutely definitely - but not what he has become now..) but I think you are absolutely right - the other three (and John Lennon is , musically at least, one of the few heroes that I still have (I've tended to shed them as I've got older....) treated him ABYSMALLY during that Klein debacle from what I have read over the years - I for one don't really blame Paul if that is why he vetoed the idea... IF he did of course... Like almost all Beatle stuff (The Klein debacle included) its all down to what you have read and what you actually believe.... and that is probably exactly how it should be 😀
I don't think anyone asked George or Ringo about any of this. John and Paul had discussed several things in the 70s. There were at least 2 times where they were going to meet up but Lennon changed his mind most likely at the urging of Yoko. I believe Lennon would have been willing if Yoko wasn't around. She seemed to be able to control him and I don't think she wanted Lennon to have anything to do with Paul.
I read an article not long ago I found interesting. Yoko had said that the boys were thinking of getting together in late 1980 to record again. She said John talked to her about it, said it was time & he was now in a better state of mind. It was to happen in England, (the get-together) & he was looking forward to it. The article brought me some hope, as I didn't think this would happen. But we will never know, & that really bugs me now! 🤨
I doubt that. John was always sceptical about reunion. George and Ringo partially left the group, but it was John's decision that ended The Fab Four. I think he was OK without The Beatles.
I think they were right on not reuniting, if they did that they would've become just one more in the crowd. The whole mytic is that live only in our memories when they were still young in their best years. They were smart they knew what time to get in, to amaze us and what the best time to leave. Scarcity is worth gold.
Paul did an interview with rolling stone magazine and after he left the room his wife Linda. Said that Paul desperately wanted to work with John again. That they were playing mind games(no pun intended) with each other.
Had John lived, I predict the Beatles would have reunited for a project in 1993 for their 30th anniversary. It would have been similar to Anthology with them recording 3 new songs. Then I predict they would have done 1 acoustic Unplugged concert on VH1 with considerable proceeds to charity, and then called it quits.
I think what also seems to have gone under the radar is that John technically did not break up the Beatles, Paul did. Yes John said what he said during the meeting in September 1969, and he likely meant it. But then he didn't fully act on it, no public statements that he was leaving, no beginning of legal arrangements. The standard narrative is that he was advised to hold off while new contracts were being signed, Let it Be getting released, etc. and I'm sure he was told that and that was one of the reasons why he didn't act. But personally I suspect that at the same time he was also conflicted, definitely wanting a new independent life and career with Yoko, but also not totally sure that he wanted to completely walk away from what had become a big part of his life. I can imagine his feelings on the decision going back and forth during those months between September and April. Not that anyone likely would have been able to tell as he possibly put on an outward appearance of being resolved to his plan. Note that his decision to leave was somewhat spontaneous on the plane ride back from Toronto in early September. Sure he had been thinking about it, but he suddenly decided right after the success at the concert. By April he was possibly still unsure what he felt about it all, and then like a bombshell Paul announces (essentially) that he is leaving the group. John was reportedly angered by this, the standard narrative is that he was mad that Paul stole his thunder. I wonder though if it's because John had not fully decided that he wanted to completely break from the group and never record with them again. Paul's announcement created a finality that John had been avoiding, dreading, and may not even been sure that it's what he wanted. I don't blame Paul though, he had his problems with Alan Klein, and he thought John had already made up his mind, and probably John's actions at the time seemed to make that clear. But was it? I don't think it's totally impossible to believe that if Paul hadn't announced that he was leaving the group, that sometime in 1970 there might have been at least one more Beatles album recorded.
They did hang out some in the 70s and discussed doing some things. They almost showed up together on SNL one night in '75. The key was that Lennon wasn't with Yoko for a couple years. After they got back together, there wasn't much chance for Paul and John to get together. She had no interest in allowing a Beatle reunion and she always was able to control Lennon in that respect.
@@Peter-f1z You're only right, and let's face it there is no way on god's green earth Paul would EVER say 'no' to a Beatle reunion. Never, never, EVER.
I believe Paul too. I think John had come full circle by 1980. In fact, on December 8, 1980, it was reported that John told a journalist this about Paul: “He’s like a brother. I love him. Families, we certainly have our ups and downs and quarrels. But at the end of the day, when it’s all said and done, I would do anything for him. I think he would do anything for me.”
I believe Paul.
@junplanas1403 so do I
Can't believe Paul in this one
If this were true, Paul would’ve brought this up 20+ years ago. You don’t sit on something like this for this long just to “matter of factly” bring it up.
Why do you believe Paul? He is inclined towards flattery, vanity, and delusion. He is the one that never wanted the Beatles broken up and wanted a reunion. He is probably projecting his own feelings onto John.
He willingly deludes himself about let it be sessions. He can’t be trusted. He even defines lying as something not whitewashing,
I'm reminded of: "We Can Work it Out." My favorite Christmas was when, as an 8 year old I received 'Beatles '65,' and I played it on our old Fisher Hifi. One of many indelible memories of The Beatles' love songs. They taught me to love girls, even before I knew about holding hands. So glad that Paul & Ringo are still with us. The innovation they brought to music will never be matched. I'm old and poor, but I'm happy with my memories.
I think you are rich in ways more important than $.
❤
John did some interviews sometime around 1975 where he talked about the Beatles getting back together. He said if someone else arranged it, he would do it. He said they had almost gotten together a few other times, but each time someone else was busy or didn’t want to do it right then, but that all four of them had wanted to do it at different times. They just had to find a time when all four wanted to do it at the same time. You can find the interview on RUclips, usually cut up into bits, but John is wearing a striped scarf. I was surprised to also find some video of George saying he hoped the Beatles would record together again sometimes. I think this was more early 70s.
So Paul's phonecall story is very plausible!
Yes, I've seen that. I don't have a link handy, but I can confirm that what you describe here is quite accurate. It isn't unthinkable that in this mood he said "C'mon, let's do it" to Paul.
@@strathman7501 old grey whistle test
I think SNL was the best opportunity around that time. IIRC, John and Paul were at John's place in NY, and George was the musical guest that week. Lorne Michaels had been making a joke about offering the Beatles $3000 to reunite on the show, and John and Paul on a whim thought they should show up. But then one of them got tired, and decided against it.
But the point is, there was no personal animosity that stopped them from ever playing together again. It would have happened eventually, but for John's assassination.
I think it was a Rolling Stone Interview in 1976 or 7 named "The Walrus Speaks" or something similar
My takeaway from Peter Jackson's GET BACK is that Paul was the guy who worked hard to keep the band together, but that John and George were done. John, because Yoko was the new center of his world, and George so he could get his music heard. Paul was no villain and the rest were no saints. They were just 4 nice brillant young guys who needed to grow up, and Beatles had become a middle school fraternity arresting their development. They graduated and moved on to what was most important to each of them.
Not everyone is saying Paul was a villain and the others were saints. You seem to gloss over the fact that Paul was directing everything and the others were not keen on that. Paul didn't seem to want to accept much compromise. No one can claim that what Paul wanted in Get Back made any sense. Here is what Paul wanted and it's pretty crazy:
They all show up at start of Jan '69 to perform what they believe to be a live concert of White Album songs for a tv show. When they show up, Paul tells them that instead they are creating a brand new album of 14 songs that need to be written and rehearsed for a live concert at the end of the month. Paul also wants to travel to another country for the concert and possibly do it on a ship at sea. The fact that Ringo is currently filming a movie with Peter Sellers doesn't deter Paul. Of course, Paul has already shown up with some material that he'd been working on because he knew what he wanted to do. Right away, Lennon tells Paul that he should have told him so he could have been working on some songs.
The other 3 probably should have told Paul off right there and said that they will only do the White Album songs as planned. And that would have been an amazing concert to see. I think we were robbed. Why the others even tried to go along with Paul's crazy plan, I have no idea. No way an Epstein or Martin would have come up with something like this. It seems the biggest issue they had is the other 3 even trying to do what Paul asked. For the entire Get Back, the other 3 are constantly waiting to see whether Paul was happy or not with every single idea. I can see why the other 3 got so frustrated, but it was their fault for even trying to go along with it to satisfy Paul in the first place. Lennon even said to Paul in that private conversation that he had become somewhat scared of Paul. This is ultimately why everything fell apart. They did get back together and do Abbey Road properly which shows what they could still do as long as it was managed in the right way. The Let It Be sessions were doomed from the start.
sounds about right. George needed space and was becoming Hindu.
John balls were in Yoko's purse and veered into political activism. Ringo
just wanted a job. Paul took over after Epstein died because no one else
was doing it, creating a power imbalance.
@@BaronVonMunch that may have been the motive for John to have
Yoko in the studio then. as a silent counterweight to Paul's
dominance. other artists have reported Paul's pushiness in the
studio.
JL didn't really end up making YO the center of his world though. That phase didn't last long.
@@BaronVonMunchPaul didn’t want to go on a boat or to another country. Micheal Lindsey Hogg tried to get them to do it but Paul is heard very clearly telling him no because they don’t want to. Also they were only on a tight schedule because of Ringo’s movie. If any one of them truly didnt want to do it, all they had to do was tell Paul no. They didn’t though so it’s not Paul’s fault. Also Paul wasn’t secretly preparing material for the project that he knew he wanted to do. He was always writing so those were just songs he had around. It’s a crazy idea to do it that fast but they all went along with it. Paul can work fast so it wasn’t crazy to him and they should have said something if they didnt want to do it
Also it was Paul who was unsatisfied with the way the Get Back project turned out. Paul went to George Martin to have him come back and properly record an album like they used to, which is how we got Abbey Road
The best thing the Beatles did was NOT getting back together. A reunion couldn't possibly have satisfied people's expectations. Leave the legend alone.
You don’t know that. They could have made their best song ever. Your ego is outta hand to state that as a fact. You can’t predict imaginary history outcomes
Same with Zeppelin.
Agreed 100%
Always leave your audience wanting more. It ended the best way it could have, and people will continue wanting more until there's no one left who remembers why they wanted more. All things begin and end.
@@fastesteddiealiveand you don’t know that either. It was magic what happened in 60s the bands that still ‘survive’ (if you call it that) are all only trying to chase that high again 😂
No point speculating about who said what, we'll never know because we weren't there. Just enjoy the wonderful music they gave us.
R U kidding? That beatle tittie will never dry up for some folks.
There's no point in doing anything. We do things because we enjoy doing them more than not doing anything at all and then we eventually die.
6:54 Agreed, the music is what matters,not their private lives during or afterwards
@@thewalrus6833 except there are plenty of taped interviews. John in particular gave long interviews. Listen and learn. He said in at least one he didn’t object to getting back together. He said one of the others would have to arrange it. Paul I’m guessing since he’s the one that got things done after Brian died.
@@Rkw772 I've been following The Beatles since I was 13 yrs old, I'm 73 now, I think I've seen and heard most of the interviews of all four of them. They all said different things at different times, John in particular. My point is it doesn't matter now, it's all in the past and two of them are no longer with us, so just enjoy the music.
their contributions to music, culture, and humanity can not be overstated. even their early songs still sound good today and in the old videos you can see how much fun they were having. Heaven sent.
If this phonecall happened, then my bet would have been when John was living away from Yoko in LA.
Totally agree
Maybe, but at that time, John was seeing a lot of Paul in person, so they wouldn't have needed to talk on the phone. It could be that it was a totally impulsive thing by John, so he called Paul rather than talking to him in person because he didn't happen to be with Paul when the impulse hit him.
@@stephentaylor5500 Paul and John had spoken on the phone in 1980. Can I prove that? No. But it is known. Google "when was the last time John Lennon And Paul mccartney spoke on the phone" it will say early 1980. although the only person who would know that answer is Paul.
Yeah there really isn't any news here. It is well known that they hung out quite a few times when he was away from Yoko. They were planning on meeting up again, but after John went back with Yoko everything changed. And another time when Paul showed up at John and Yoko's place in NY, Lennon angrily sent him away saying he couldn't just show up. Basically, as long as John was with Yoko there was very little chance he and Paul would do anything together even if John had considered it. Yoko also continually says that Paul likes to believe what he wants to believe about what John felt near the end. Without Yoko they certainly could have done more together, with her around there was pretty much no chance.
@@lennon1252 he told him he really liked his song Coming Up. John said he liked the funky version but Paul said the record company wanted the rock version.
Supposedly, and I've not been able to confirm this outside the video that presented this allegation, Jack Douglas, John's producer for Double Fantasy said that Paul and John wanted to write together again and had tried to book an LA studio for a session in December 1980 but that the studio was booked that month and they rescheduled for January 1981. If it weren't for John's assassination, it was going to happen. That's not a Beatles reunion, George and Ringo weren't involved, but to have two of the greatest songwriters trying to work together again on some songs would've been a real treat.
I think it would have been much harder getting George to agree in the 70's.
If George would make a lot of money he would be all for it. By the late 70s his music was on the decline. People didn't want any of his Hare Krishna shit.
I think George by the middle 70s had enough of the solo stuff and the Beatles enjoyed being the best band in the world, their egos could handle the fame, and they probably had no doubts of their talents and ability.
@@TheSteveGainesRockBand His song "Blow Away" in 1979 made to 16 on the charts in the US and #7 in Canada.
@@philwillett9102 Like I said, his music was on the decline. You could have gone with his single in 1981 "All Those Years Ago" that made it to number 2 in the US, but that was on the wave of love for John Lennon after his death. Or with "Got My Mind Set On You" which made it to number 1 in 1987, but he didn't write that song. I liked a few of his songs after the early 70s, but he was on the decline. They were less frequent and mostly less impressive. He may have even had one or two good songs with the Travelling Wilburys. So I still say since his music was on the decline he would have been more open to cashing in with The Beatles again.
@@TheSteveGainesRockBand All Those Years Ago was good, it didn't do well because of Lennon's death. If George wanted to write a Beatles' like song, he could. He didn't want to do it much during his solo career. Paul's music was far worse after 1980 so I'm not sure what good it would do unless John and George could convince him to write better songs.
Paul and John had spoken on the phone in 1980 about getting together and writing some songs together, and for Ringo but the studios were closed for the holidays so they planned to do it after New Year's. But unfortunately John died 😢
True indeed
he didn't die, he was murdered
@@mikeystheoneWhen your murdered, you die...
@@joethompson2910 *you're
That’s what I heard , they had studio booked and were ready to do it , then a maniac yank called chapman destroyed it
John is the definition of "When one of your friends gets a girlfriend and proceeds to forget about you"
In your case it would be justified.
If you watch the May Peng documentary, John was never against the idea of the Beatles reuniting. Especially mid 70s when John and Paul forgave eachother and was willing to perform together post breakup. John just wanted his space. Wanting more personal freedoms and luxuries that being showcased as a Beatle wouldn't satisfy. Even though the members signed liquidation for the Beatles in Disney land, John was the last member to sign because he had reservations about doing so.
George would have been much harder to reconciliate. I believe in the early 70s George would only consider a Beatles reunion possible if solo careers would presume simultaneously. Being a Beatle is a young man's game and the Beatles shouldn't reunite and tarnish their great legacy.
My impression is that George would do whatever John told him to.
@@SelectCircle Then you don;t know anything about George.
@@Mozart1220 That's probably the only thing I do know - besides that he lost his guitar chops because he wouldn't practice - and he was stabbed by a burglar.
John was the only one to sign those papers at disneyland, the others signed earlier in New York.
@@SelectCircle George didn't lose his chops, listen to his final album that Dhani finished, George was still great.
John mentioned in a People Mag cover story from 1976-Will the Beatles reunite for 50 million?
He said he was all for it. That breaking up was a mistake in many ways.
He said he'd never do it for the money, but if there was new MUSIC to be made and they were ALL exited about doing it, no problem. Too many just wanted a "live show', which Lennon had no interest in. He and Paul nearly dropped in on Saturday Night live" the night George was on, but decided they were "too tired". Yeah, weed will do that. LOL
Didn`t the Beatles officially exist in 1976, at least as a `business`? Paul was suing the others and his money was tied up so badly he could hardly pay his Wings people anything. The idea of undoing all that for a reunion? Somebody owned the Beatles name, and it probably wasn`t them. They could play together but i don`t think they`d`ve been `The Beatles.` That was a dissolved business...done. The rest was hype.
@@barryledgister4496 Apple Corps still exists, owned by The Beatles or their estates. Apple Corps on average distributes about $50 million a year, sometimes less, sometimes more, depending on any current releases or re-releases of music, films, etc.
@@barryledgister4496 Indeed so - there was a lot of unfinished business. The original court case (centring on Allen Klein's management) was filed and won by Paul in 1970-1; the dissolution of the partnership was separate and the terms not agreed by all four until 1976 (- even then John was not present at the date agreed citing some garbage about the stars not being right - the sure hand of Yoko, I fear) but eventually signed later). In such a context Paul was highly unlikely to open this pandora's box again and I don't blame him.
@@28johann1 Get past Yoko. It's been over 50 years. Give it a rest. You DO realize that Yoko was a shrewd businesswoman who made a FORTUNE for John with investments, right?
She should have managed the Beatles.
Dear John Lennon everyone misses you. We gather at Strawberry Fields in Central Park, NYC and at The Imagine Peace Tower in Iceland and at smaller monuments for you around the world ☮️🌏☮️
Yo y mucha gente lo extrañamos no puedo entender como alguien pudo haber acabado con una alma transparente
I believe Paul. There was one Lennon documented interview walking on the shore where John was saying he's open to the idea, he could call the guys and say let's get together and do something but he didn't want to do it just to do it. If it happens, it happens.
@@hisgreatness2 that’s the one I heard him say it.
I heard that interview. In Malibu.
I’m sure John changed his mind 5 minutes after that phone call
Absolutely. That was John. And Paul knew it. George, the same. Ringo.....need I say more?😉
Yes John changed his mind like the wind changed
for sure - that was John and seriously doubt a reunion would have ever happened
I would say after 4 minutes.
If Yoko Ono even allowed him to make the call. The whole story is unbelievable.
They def would have gotten back together to some degree. God Bless the Beatles
May Pang has said that in 1974 John was talking about wanting to write with Paul again. Also, there’s supposedly a sworn affidavit that John signed (1980-ish) saying he had plans to reunite the Beatles… he wrote it as part of a legal action against the tribute band Beatlemania.
Absolutely true. Lennon’s comments were a piece of evidence the in the Apple Computer vs Apple Corp. lawsuit. I was working at Apple Computer during that lawsuit. Lennon’s affidavit was also part of the evidence of the Beatles plans to do the Anthology series even though it wasn’t called that yet in 1979. The Beatles were saying their Apple trademark was still valid and would be used again in the future. The Beatles won that lawsuit.
@@MichaelWhelan-p9u Interesting. They had to prove ownership of `The Beatles` name...? Was there doubt they could use that name in business?
Lennon's producer Jack Douglas said he and Paul were both going to work together on Ringo's new album that January in Los Angeles.
@@robertlivingstone3364 I’ve heard that story. How cool would that have been?
@@MichaelWhelan-p9u A great way to get back together, a Ringo album, no pressure of a "new Beatles album". Lennon was actually in awe of McCartney, said so up to his death.
When Paul negotiated his contract with Columbia Records he put in a stipulation that he could record with the Beatles or as the Beatles if it were warranted. Indicating that it was in the back of his mind that it could happen. Even in late 1980 John talked about everyone contributing songs to a Ringo album and it was speculated that it was a cover for a potential Beatles reunion
Yes, Apple Computer had at one point claimed the Apple Corp ‘Apple’ trademark was no longer valid because Apple records had ceased to function. Remember, this is years before CD’s and re-releases. So Apple Corp entered into evidence Lennon’s statement, made just before he died, that the Beatles intended to record again for a Beatles retrospective project.
If John hadn't left us, NO DOUBT they would have.
Damn.
Not if Yoko was around. She would always manage to prevent it from happening, it's pretty clear she did not want Lennon spending much time around Paul. Some even think she set up Paul in the drug charge in Japan. I wouldn't doubt it.
John didn't leave us. He was forcibly taken from us by a deranged psychopath. 😢
Not with yoko big mouth advice in it, she brain washed john into breaking up the band and Paul even said that in a interview with Howard stern, he said john wanted it to be done and it was her fault for screwing with John’s head 😡
If Paul hadn't tried to rewrite history in the past, I'd believe it.
Spot on.
I can only imagine this happening between 1972-1974 specially in the Mind Games era, when John was with May Pang and giving interviews saying "maybe" and starting getting annoyed with Alan klein. after Band On the Run came out Paul could see himself building a solid career after the Beatles and probably was still getting over it as we know he went to a dark place after the band break up until at least 1971. Maybe he wasn't afraid of getting back together but going through another break up
The "Toot and a Snore" jam tape, available here on RUclips, has John saying to pass around the nose candy and barely discernible interchanges after John called across the room to Paul, who was on drums. John couldn't get everyone out of the complimentary blow. He said, "Let's do SOMETHING, who's got any ideas?" Something to that effect. But the tape of John singing the demo "Now and Then", had in John's handwriting, "For Paul" on the tape. The fact that The Beatles were going to get back together, and tour (after an album, I'd wager) was a Fait accompli. This makes the assassination of John
all the more heartbreaking, if one can imagine (no pun intended) that.
@@michaelg1060It's a shame they were so fucked up. lol There are a few choice moments with John, Paul and Stevie Wonder that I wish lasted longer.
@@michaelg1060 Problem is Yoko didn't want this. The only time Lennon spent more time with Paul was when he was away from Yoko. May Pang loved the idea of the Beatles getting back together. As soon as John went back with Yoko, he canceled a meeting he had planned with Paul. And later when Paul showed up at their NY place, Lennon angrily told Paul he couldn't just show up there whenever he wanted. Yoko would always be a problem and there wasn't much evidence that Lennon would ever leave her. Yoko still says crap about Paul and the other Beatles until this day. Now she's complaining that Paul, George and Ringo never said good things about her back then because they were bigots that hated her because she was a woman. She was and is insane.
@@BaronVonMunch I don't know why no one has really ever seriously looked at Yoko being behind John's murder. She already had a new boyfriend and moved him in right quick after 12-8-80. HE wore John's clothes, and Yoko, of course, got EVERYTHING. I have always suspected she had a lot more to do with it than people are comfortable with saying, for some reason.
@@BaronVonMunch Insane and I would add evil. What she did to Julian, who'd done nothing to Yoko. Julian had to fight for YEARS to get part of what he deserved from his father's estate.
John's passing is truly the most tragic event in all music history 😢
John Lennon's murderer will never see the light of day. Whenever he goes before the parole board Yoko Ono is right there in solidarity.
Yes, it is.
Yes, it broke the hearts, especially, of those who grew up with John's (and The Beatles) music. Mass media, and the nature of celebrity, gives the illusion that you know someone. And, when the someone is killed, it can have a powerful emotional effect. John belonged to the public, and one publicity seeking, selfish little b*stard, took him away from all of us.
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Every musical era has had its heartache and tragic losses.
Glenn Miller, Benny Goodman, Patsy Cline,Richie Vallens, Buddy Holly, The Big Bopper, Sam Cooke, Hendrix, Joplin, Morrison, Cobain, Geez..
The list is long and sad.
But…
For those of us who grew up with and loved The Beatles,and especially John Lennon in this case, the pain of his tragic murder never goes away.
Thank goodness the music endures.
I think Paul and John as well as George too liked the freedom from the cage and pressure of always having to write Beatles songs. John Paul George and Beatles fans knew what a Beatles song was. You would listen to the solo work of John Paul and George and immediately identify oh these 2 or 3 songs were Beatles songs and the rest did not measure up. They all knew which of their songs were Beatles songs and which were not. Finally they were able to breath and write what pleased them and show the full spectrum of their songwriting gifts.
According to May Pang, John wanted to at the very least work with Paul again, however when he got back together with Yoko, Yoko thought that it was a bad idea. There is a video of John and Yoko a few years later in central park where a guy asks when The Beatles are getting back together and John responds enthusiastically "tomorrow!". He was joking but I think that it was something that was on his mind. Had he not gotten back together with Yoko, it might have happened but who knows.
Well, all you need to do is ask Paul! He's still alive, so damn it, put an interview together & let's her him give the full story. Date , place, and the nature of the conversation...
I swear, somethings I think that John and Paul act like husband and wife and George and Ringo act like their kids.
Ha! True!
I heard Paul say the two, John and Paul, almost went down to Saturday Night Live when George was on.
Yes, I think it was to "accept" Lorne Michael's offer of three thousand dollars for the Beatles to reunite on SNL. George, playing along, said the offer was "chintzy" to Michaels on the show.
@@WinslowLeach1974 No Michaels told George-he';s only ONE Beatle so he only gets $750.00 to which George thought that was "chintzy" lol
As John said. It never got to a moment where all 4 wanted it at once. Which means there was also moments where one of them wanted to. So, totally believable.
RE: Getting The Beatles back together... John's idea. We'll never know for sure. I'm guessing Paul is telling the truth about this. John seemed pretty impulsive and would often say whatever was on his mind... in the moment. So, it's easy to see John riding that idea, as it popped up, and calling Paul. Paul always seemed a little more cautious and reflective. Clearly, the band's breakup was painful for him, kind of like ending a marriage.
It was probably during John’s “lost weekend” with Harry Nilsson, when Yoko had set him loose with her assistant in tow. Supposedly he’d bounced the idea of her first, she loved it, but when he returned to Yoko, she shot it down. It could very well have been in the form of “Paul is right, don’t do it.”
There was a John interview where he said, "oh, why not? But then someone else would be against it". Again, the man died way too young. So, we will never really know.
In a lifetime of being a mega fan I had never heard that :}
Lets be honest. The Beatles would have done all kinds of projects together over the years if they all survived. I'm not surprised that John suggested it, and I'm not suprised Paul wasn't ready. But I think around the time Free as a Bird came out they might have put out something, then again around the time Now and Then came out.
" someone knocking at the door ".
Do me a favour, at this moment, i'm not in the mood.
What if it was Auntie Gin? You'd better get that, Paul.
Paul, and I love him, but he is a revisionist history guy. All the stuff John got credit for such as being the artsy one in the mid-60s, Paul made a point to make sure everyone knew John was on the hill being married and Paul was the one walking around in bare feet and doing backwards tape loops and stuff. Haha. Right. And now to suggest that John called him, it smacks of a revision that paints John as desperate, in need of getting the band back together, while Paul blows him off.
In 1979 I read an amusing article in a music magazine. Apparently, Paul McCartney contacted John Lennon and asked if he wanted to write a new song together. Lennon apparently replied 'no I already have enough money'.
I think The Beatles would have reunited for the occasional concert such as Live Aid in 1985. I doubt very much that they would have gone on a full international tour. I believe the world tours between 1964 and 1966 were a big challenge to them mentally and emotionally. The very last Beatles concert was in San Francisco in 1966. They recorded new music in the last four years they were together up to 1970 but they never toured again.
Well, my drummer in the 80s was working at the studio where Paul was recording 'Venus And Mars'. Paul had called John to get him to come down....and he almost did. Not a Beatles reunion, but we know what John and Paul can produce together without anyone else. (See 'The Ballad Of John And Yoko') Yoko took the blame for John not going, of course, though it could have been any number of other things, IMO.
I don't believe this story for a second. I've been following The Beatles since 1980 and over 44 years, I have NEVER heard about this. Lennon wanted a solo career, he wanted to raise his son and he wanted to grow closer to Yoko. He was done with the band.
It's absolutely true. It was around the time they jammed in 1974 with Stevie Wonder. They also planned to try again in January of 1981.
Just because YOU don’t believe it doesn’t mean that it isn’t true!
Agreed, Macca is not believeable here and in other history rewriting attempts. It would have been mentioned decades ago.
Ringo was the only one who would have had a chance to make them get back together because he was the glue that kept them together even when he left during the white album they all got together to ask him to return they needed him to hold those big egos together
You're right. The only way I could have pictured them reuniting (had they lived long enough) was at one of Ringo's All Star Band shows. Maybe run out and do an encore together. Getting together under the "B" name brought too much baggage. But as the latest iteration of the ASB, it could have worked. Mainly, I think, because John and George would found it funny. And Paul wouldn't want to be left out.
There are other things Lennon said when Beatlemania started regarding copyright issues as there was talk of them getting together. Also them being in his apartment talking about going on the set of SNL during a show. It would have happened had John lived.
From people that were around John stated he did go back-and-forth I've heard it several times over the years. That being said for legal reasons they couldn't get together. Paul couldn't come into the states John couldn't leave. Also it's been confirmed that they were planning on getting together following Christmas the year he died. I don't think as a band though. I think they were apprehensive as even Beatle fans were that they would be scrutinized terribly if they came back as the Beatles. I also believe in that last interview that he and Yoko did the day he died or the day before he died he stated he was going to be working with Paul. In an interview one of his assistance had said that he followed everything that Paul did. John had done an interview in 1980 where he said oh he doesn't pay attention to wings or any of that. But that it just wasn't true he followed him closely. I think it's so sad that he did not show Paul the support to see him at Madison Square, Gardens for wings over America. Evidently one of their psychic said that Paul had invited him just to rub it in. I think Paul was proud and did want his dear friend there to support him. John did say how great he thought wings was but he said it was not wings it was McCartney. He said so many complementary things about Paul throughout that 10 years. It's just said it never got as much Press as when he'd be in one of his moodsand say something mean. It's just really too bad for him for them and all of us
John was remembering the good times of the Beatles when being interviewed on the beach with his confident.
John said in one his last interview that if they got back together again it would be in the studio , not touring.
The only times I heard John say anything about any form of reunion. Was the interview walking on the beach with Elliot Mintz when asked point blank. John replied...Well, ya never know. Then, the other was in another interview. He said he'd be open to doing a project like recording some material. But no to any kind of touring.. Quote..
Touring is a drag!!!
It reminds me of the scene from The Blues Brothers, The scene where Jake and Elwood are in the lounge and they're pitching getting the band back together to the rest of the band. What always strikes me about that scene is that every musician, I don't care how big or how small you are, every musician has been on both sides of that conversation. And why would the Beatles be any different?
For some reason I can't imagine Paul saying no to a possible Beatles reunion. ever...
Unless John wanted Yoko in the band. 🤨
I think it's true, I've seen other videos that John literally days before his death spoke with Paul about a reunion of sorts, and apparently, from this source, Yoko confirmed it, but my response to this is, first I believe both stories, but the wildcard in the room was George, I think no way no how, he would have done it...
John was definitely up for a reunion. In the Elliot Mintz interview with John on the beach in Malibu, John flat out says he'd be in as long as he didn't have to organize it. Paul was at one of his post-Beatles creative peaks during that time period and was not as nostalgic as John for a reunion in the mid 70s.
There was never any bullshit from the Beatles, an honest early career, an honest breakup and honest individual careers. Never a thought to get back together just to make more money. They have integrity and authenticity as well as an uncommon brilliance.
Not sure if anyone else mentioned it, but there was the night that John called Paul after SNL offered a bunch of money for a Beatles appearance (or something like that).
The two guys hung out, played some music and, for a little while, actually contemplated going to the SNL studio and just popping in to play something.
They quickly dismissed the idea, but for a few moments, John was really into it.
That was in April 1976 & was the last time they met. Paul & Linda spent an evening at the Dakota with John & Yoko. The last time J & P talked was a telephone conversation in January 1980. It was Macca who made the call. Paul continues to over-play their post- Beatles relationship to this day.
Good job. I didn't know about this.
I extensively researched the Beatles from the day Paul and John met, until their performance on Ed Sullivan.
I really know their background, but I didn't know about the phone call.
Personally I would have enjoyed seeing the Beatles reunite, but sadly George Harrison said that he would never be in a band again with Paul McCartney. George faced restrictions within the band that was imposed on him by McCartney and Lennon.
John's comment about fans wanting a Beatles reunion is sadly, tragically clueless...well, for my part anyway. For me, it wasn't at all about "reliving the past", or any such bullcrap. The truth is that those four guys made magic together. Every album was a giant leap forward. Wanting a reunion was a vote of confidence in their *_creativity_* - their ability to create something new and fresh and different. It had nothing to do with nostalgia or reliving the past.
John did seem to have chilled out by 1980, so yeah...I can believe that maybe he thought it might be a gas to get the group back together - not necessarily as any kind of ongoing commitment, and certainly not for touring....well, almost certainly. The truth is that The Beatles' audience had matured by then, and the technology for doing live shows made it possible for bands to play giant venues with awesome sound for the audience and a great audio environment on stage. They would have been able to hear themselves.
Hell...by 1980, I was one of the premier stage monitor mixers in the industry. I'd have volunteered to mix their stage monitors for free! 😎
It was MAGICK indeed....
My guess is that if John hadn't been shot, there would have been a Lennon McCartney colloaberation
The likely set list for the Beatles at Live Aid:
Here Comes The Sun / With A Little Help From My Friends / Come Together / Hey Jude
Blue Jay Way If You've got troubles Wild Honey Pie What's the New Maryjane
Would the possibility of Paul,Ringo, Julian and Sean Lennon and Dhani Harrison getting together for a few shows? That would be AWESOME 👍 especially if The Evil One Yoko isn't involved in any part of such an endeavor!!
She has more artistic talent in her little finger than your whole body. She's 90 and sick and saw her husband murdered. Give your sophomoric, unoriginal rantings a rest, pal.
We know from audio interviews with Lennon he was very open to a reunion with McCartney at least. He said “we were the Beatles.” He might have said the opposite two days later. He often hanged his mind. My guess is that McCartney and Lennon would have written together again in the 1980’s. Paul might’ve been more receptive to a reunion in late 1980 or 1981 after he de facto ended Wings and released his solo album. I think they would’ve liked to have a go at the New Wave craze-they were 15+ years ahead of the curve.
I don't take everything Paul says as 100% accurate. And less so over time. Ahem...
I believe Paul. The work that Peter Jackson did to uncover the truth around the time of the Let It Be sessions gave both Ringo and Paul a blast of clarity and confirmation that they were in fact, even during the toughest bits, still insanely creative together. Friendly. Full of energy. And that those things co-existed right alongside frustrations, growing pains, and a desire for independence. To develop their own personas and lives outside of The Beatles. After the breakup, I believe that Paul and John were in their heads a lot about it all. If they had just gotten together even a few times, it very well could have been enough to clear the air. We already know that the phone calls were having that effect. And that in the end, they all still loved each other immensely. Like a family. There's something really beautiful about that amidst all the tragedy that would happen later.
I remember John and Paul use to joke about all the money being offered for a reunion.... They talked often on the phone and John would say "I won't get back together unless we each get 100 million dollars." And then Paul would say, "I'll get back together when we get paid one billion dollars" and back and forth it would go to see who was willing to pay the most.
That is not what I've always read. John was finished with the Beatles. And I believe he was. What really matters is that they got together in the first place. And made all that wonderful music.
Well put.
Sure I believe McCartney, anyone can change their mind. Lennon knew he created some of the best music of his life with those guys, it's not hard to imagine he'd want to do that again. Remember it's said that TIME HEALS ALL WOUNDS.
What a great video have a wonderful weekend ❤😊
John Lennon did the song Now and Then singing about how he kissed his old bandmates,which points to the possibility that it's true
John and Paul, and most likely Ringo could have come to an agreement, but I think for George, leaving The Beatles was liberating and a reunion was the last thing on his mind. He felt stifled with The Beatles and had many songs written over the years that were rejected by the rest of the band, which he was finally able to finish and release on his own. I think he would have been the hardest to convince, and one could hardly blame him.
I agree.
I think you are absolutely correct.
Right on. He was the strongest personality of all of them.
When John was with May Pang, she said there was talk about them getting together to do something.
She encouraged John to reconnect with Paul. Which they did during his "lost weekend".
Paul had invited John down to New Orleans where Paul had moved the family to record Venus and Mars as well as take in the Mardi Gras. John wrote a postcard to Apple press agent Derek Taylor that he was thinking about it. If he had gone down to NO with May, there;s no doubt there would have been some writing and musical contributions going on, just as John did with Harry Nilson and David Bowie. But John got back with Yoko and that killed any thoughts of joining Paul.
I'm pretty sure I remember John mention a few times in interviews, that at one time or another each member had tried to get it back together but there's was always be a different guy say, "no" I think John was into it, right around 1974 he had a #1 album and song and probably felt like he would be in a power position again. I remember reading in May Pangs book that John was going to met uo with McCartney in New Orleans (he was recording Venus and Mars) she had even booked a flight for the two of them and the next day John changed his mind. Maybe, he suggested it to McCartney then and once he rejected the idea he called off the trip. I guess we'll never know what really happened.
I still wish that they had taken Lorne Michaels offer to re-unite on SNL for the enormous payday of $300.00(or something like that)
$3,000. Don't lowball it.
Sorry. It's been over 40 years since I've seen that bit.
"Split it however you want. If you want to give Ringo less, that's fine.
I don't believe for a minute that a reunion would have happened. John saying: "Why would I got back to collage?" is exactly it. They would stay friends but maybe get together for Live Aid but that's it. John had just gotten his muse back in Double Fantasy, Paul was happy with his own work. They grew content as solo artists and really didn't need to reunite.
Sorry, there's video of John Lennon discussing a Beatles reunion only if all four Beatles were in the same place at the same time and he said we would really want to all four of us want to do it. Paul McCartney's been slipping on his information here the last few years and I do not believe for one minute that John asked for a Beatles reunion and Paul said no. I do not believe that at all.
Yes, and "Revision" is a three syllable word!
You girls really don’t like Paul
It could be that they just loosely talked about getting together again.
That John Lennon just vented the idea - but actually didn't put so much seriousness into it.
@@PatRiley-gv6pu Is calling someone a girl supposed to be an insult?
@@tomrogerlilleby2890 If Yoko was around at the time, she would have derailed it at some point. It would have ended up with Lennon telling Paul to get the f out.
Even though I would never refer to Macca as a liar, I still don't put any stock in what is said here. Feel free to refer to this as a free association, but what I'm going on is the way Peter Cetera exited Chicago in 1985 and has refused since then to look back a lot of fans have clamored for Peter to perform live with Chicago again, even just for a song or two, and he won't do it. He did not even participate in their induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2016. By the same token, I have no confidence whatsoever that John would have wanted the Beatles to reunite in the time after we lost him. His posture was that they split up, and they all moved on. He might have occasionally titillated people with the idea of a reunion up until he stopped playing music all together when Sean was born, but I'm of a mind that there was not going to be a Beatles reunion for the same reason that Peter isn't going to reunite with Chicago. Simply put, The Beatles ended in 1970.
John's diary, published in full in the 2000s, said a reunion was scheduled for 1981.
I suspect what Paul is alluding to is the Ringo Starr sessions that were booked for January 1981..... Paul was (unofficially) producing Ringo's "Can't Fight Lightening" (what would become "Stop and smell the roses").... Paul and Ringo had worked together on 5-6 songs in July 1980, and apparently Paul was going to be at the 1981 sessions in New York to record the stuff John was there. Its probably something around that he is meaning
History is written by the survivors.
Conjecture is worthless but fun.
I could see John & Paul writing together though.
Great story, but, besides all that, great narration from the new guy. This is great!
Hello, I love these vids, tbh I like the original voice and the new one
Thank you very much! ❤️
@BeatlesBible1 also ur my fav beatles channel, so it made my day that u took the time to respond
The Beatles may have reunited for something like Live Aid. And, of course, they may have done something together for the Anthology. But I don't think they would have reunited as the Beatles just to put out an album. I do think we would probably have seen smaller collaborations where 1 or more would appear on the others' records. (This actually did happen, but never between John and Paul.)
More McCartney baloney. Not buying it. Why isn't George Harrison considered in Paul's ramblings? In 1974 he said he would never play with Paul again because of musical differences. I don't believe for one second his claim that John asked him for a Beatles reunion. If, (in some parallel reality) he did, the Beatles still could not have reunited without Harrison's consent.
I dont believe it either. Paul has a tendency to embellish stories and change them as the decades go on. I do remember John, the day he was killed, in an interview that was audio recorded how he had just gotten his haircut like in the old days like the Beatles wore it. He was asked about a reunion and he said yes to the interviewer but I dont believe John asked Paul to do it.
Nor can I imagine Paul saying no if John did ask. I think Paul would have liked nothing more than to reunite, at least with John, to create music as Lennon/McCartney. I don't think George was interested at all.
Paul was trying HARD to get into the Double Fantasy sessions. John planned to write with him in January. There's a clip on YT somewhere with Art Garfunkel talking about giving John advice on it, based on him playing with Paul Simon again.
Linda said that Paul "desperately" wanted to write with John again sometime close to John's death. So...maybe not get the band together again but he sure wanted to write with John.
They could have resurrected The Nurk Twins (Nerk Twins?) name as a duo! If george & Ringo weren't going to be involved. That could have been fun.
John and Paul played together in L.A. in 1974. Paul even wrote a song about it. John was AWAY from Yoko at that time....THAT would have been the time. Paul doesn't give a DATE for when this phone call happened so....who knows.
George wouldn't have gone for it.
True, but the heart of the band was always John and Paul, and a reunion of just those 2 or maybe them and Ringo would have been enough for me. George was a dour sourpuss who threw a wet blanket on all band projects. It wouldn’t have been exactly the same without him, but it wouldn’t have been all that different with a different lead guitarist.
@@Henry-z1y1c As a Beatle fan myself I'll have to agree with you about George and it's even hard for me to say this but here goes.
George is where fun goes to die.
@@Henry-z1y1c John when George went missing in 1968 " Well just get Eric in " ( Ref Anthology )
@@paulweston285no .here comes the Sun, Something, no While My guitar….
@@jayclarke5466 George clearly made contributions with some (but not all that many) songs he wrote. He also harmonized well with the others. His guitar playing was average at best. George was pissed off, with justification, that he wasn’t respected by John and Paul and that they treated him as their kid brother. His response was to try and prevent the group from doing anything, and he got them to stop touring. Overall, hard to say if he was a net positive or negative to the group. If it was up to me, I would have tried to keep him in the group, and as a part of any reunion. But if he was unwilling or created issues, I would have had no problem finding someone else. It would have been easy to find a better guitarist.
I dunno... Paul is rather weird in interviews; I mean come on - driving that boat and speaking through the cabin window in Anthology was downright bizarre. It lacked consideration for the viewer and his concentration was flippant. So yeah, he could have said it, because he says too much at times without forethought. Macca on John Lennons assassination, 'yeah, it's a drag.' Ugh. John, however, and I am biased as he my fab fav - wanted very much to rerecord some of his Beatle's favorites. I believe in the Playboy interview he talked about touring for Double Fantasy and then rerecording Help and Strawberry Fields with Ringo. Would he have enlisted the other two to get it to his vision? Who knows. But we lost more than John the person on 12/8/80, we also lost his promised production - that he would be giving the fans more and that he wanted back on the merry-go-round on his terms. On the reverse side, he famously said he never truly profited the way Paul had post Beatle years. He never did a Plastic Ono Band over America tour, nor did any POB TV specials. He was not wired that way. Paul to this day most certainly loves the fame train. John's appearances were at peace benefits and bet payoffs - with EJ at MSG being his last live performance. Who knows, it would have been great to experience the re-emergence of an 80's Lennon.
This is all speculation, and a biased one at that.
@@piscesman54 And what part is biased? I am listing facts from John's Playboy interview. John said he wanted to rerecord Help and Strawberry Fields and Ringo agreed to be on the session. Try reading it. Also, I am stating that John was my fav fab. That is not biased. That is honest. Perhaps Paul is your fav. That is awesome. No bias or malice on my part. My most biased thought was that Paul is not considerate of his fans and has gone on record saying a lot of bizarre things over the past 61 years. Here is another bias thought, Paul has poor recollection when speaking off the cuff. Can you recall a conversation when you were 24 verbatim? No, I don't think so. Humans, no matter how famous are not wired that way. I am sorry if I offended your sensibilities, but I do not apologize for any perceived bias. Peace and Love.
a. I love Paul, and I believe him, but...
b. I don't find this "revelation" all that earth shattering.
c. Normally when I hear Paul speak today about the Beatles days, he routinely looks and sounds like he's making up things as he goes along.
d. This video makes it obvious that most of the "John hated the Beatles and would never have gotten back together" narrative was fueled and created by the press. Listen to that one interviewer trying to put words into John's mouth.
John and Paul's gigantic egos colour their memories and cancel each other out. I believe Ringo or George as to what "really" happened.
John did say he would do it as long as they had something to say and all agreed to it. Two big ifs
I've heard Paul talking about this before and he said that he was riding high with Wings at the time this was suggested and he felt some sort of revenge in vetoing the reunion. I don't blame him given the behaviour of the other three against him. They'd all aligned with Alan Klein and almost lost everything they'd worked for.
I'm no post 80s Paul fan (Paul of the Beatles and the 70s absolutely definitely - but not what he has become now..) but I think you are absolutely right - the other three (and John Lennon is , musically at least, one of the few heroes that I still have (I've tended to shed them as I've got older....) treated him ABYSMALLY during that Klein debacle from what I have read over the years - I for one don't really blame Paul if that is why he vetoed the idea... IF he did of course...
Like almost all Beatle stuff (The Klein debacle included) its all down to what you have read and what you actually believe.... and that is probably exactly how it should be 😀
I don't think anyone asked George or Ringo about any of this. John and Paul had discussed several things in the 70s. There were at least 2 times where they were going to meet up but Lennon changed his mind most likely at the urging of Yoko. I believe Lennon would have been willing if Yoko wasn't around. She seemed to be able to control him and I don't think she wanted Lennon to have anything to do with Paul.
@@BaronVonMunch Yoko was already plotting a Lennon demise so she would have what she now has.
I read an article not long ago I found interesting. Yoko had said that the boys were thinking of getting together in late 1980 to record again. She said John talked to her about it, said it was time & he was now in a better state of mind. It was to happen in England, (the get-together) & he was looking forward to it. The article brought me some hope, as I didn't think this would happen. But we will never know, & that really bugs me now! 🤨
Hey Paul - let's do a DISCO album! 8 P
You have no Idea how close you are to the truth.
@@kennymilne6817 We can wear fro wigs and roller skates on the cover!
@@SelectCircle we could. Not my thing, and it wasn't George's either, hence no reunion album!!
After John stopped talking to George everything was over. He did say at one point in the mid 70s that it was a possible thing
I doubt that. John was always sceptical about reunion. George and Ringo partially left the group, but it was John's decision that ended The Fab Four. I think he was OK without The Beatles.
McCartney re rights history
Because they were all doing fine without the Beatles, became the reason why John would have considered it.
@@halweiss8671 John maybe considered it, but do you really believe Paul would have said no? I doubt it.
I think they were right on not reuniting, if they did that they would've become just one more in the crowd. The whole mytic is that live only in our memories when they were still young in their best years. They were smart they knew what time to get in, to amaze us and what the best time to leave. Scarcity is worth gold.
Oasis reunion has world wide attention so Paul came up with this story because he felt left out 😂
just stop it
Don't quite believe this.
Paul did an interview with rolling stone magazine and after he left the room his wife Linda. Said that Paul desperately wanted to work with John again. That they were playing mind games(no pun intended) with each other.
Had John lived, I predict the Beatles would have reunited for a project in 1993 for their 30th anniversary. It would have been similar to Anthology with them recording 3 new songs. Then I predict they would have done 1 acoustic Unplugged concert on VH1 with considerable proceeds to charity, and then called it quits.
I think what also seems to have gone under the radar is that John technically did not break up the Beatles, Paul did. Yes John said what he said during the meeting in September 1969, and he likely meant it. But then he didn't fully act on it, no public statements that he was leaving, no beginning of legal arrangements. The standard narrative is that he was advised to hold off while new contracts were being signed, Let it Be getting released, etc. and I'm sure he was told that and that was one of the reasons why he didn't act. But personally I suspect that at the same time he was also conflicted, definitely wanting a new independent life and career with Yoko, but also not totally sure that he wanted to completely walk away from what had become a big part of his life. I can imagine his feelings on the decision going back and forth during those months between September and April. Not that anyone likely would have been able to tell as he possibly put on an outward appearance of being resolved to his plan. Note that his decision to leave was somewhat spontaneous on the plane ride back from Toronto in early September. Sure he had been thinking about it, but he suddenly decided right after the success at the concert. By April he was possibly still unsure what he felt about it all, and then like a bombshell Paul announces (essentially) that he is leaving the group. John was reportedly angered by this, the standard narrative is that he was mad that Paul stole his thunder. I wonder though if it's because John had not fully decided that he wanted to completely break from the group and never record with them again. Paul's announcement created a finality that John had been avoiding, dreading, and may not even been sure that it's what he wanted. I don't blame Paul though, he had his problems with Alan Klein, and he thought John had already made up his mind, and probably John's actions at the time seemed to make that clear. But was it? I don't think it's totally impossible to believe that if Paul hadn't announced that he was leaving the group, that sometime in 1970 there might have been at least one more Beatles album recorded.
Another Paul story after John died. No one to refute it.
Paul rewriting history again. He wrote most of In my Life and Lucy in the Sky …..blah blah blah… he has no shame.
absolutely. One wonders what George's comment would have been
They did hang out some in the 70s and discussed doing some things. They almost showed up together on SNL one night in '75. The key was that Lennon wasn't with Yoko for a couple years. After they got back together, there wasn't much chance for Paul and John to get together. She had no interest in allowing a Beatle reunion and she always was able to control Lennon in that respect.
@@Peter-f1z You're only right, and let's face it there is no way on god's green earth Paul would EVER say 'no' to a Beatle reunion. Never, never, EVER.
I think I've found my bretheren here - was tired of PM rewriting history 20 years ago.