@@ju-lq9jp lol, I thought I was savior organizer before watching this video because I like to organize my stuff for fun and I didn’t know much about it.
Turns out I am an INTJ because I only research what supports my belief that I am an INTJ, and keep watching and listening to the same videos from your channel, that prove I am an INTJ. Nailed it! This gets even worse when I am stressed. ; )
This is me with MBTI. When I find something that I'm interested in I lock into it and think about it all the time. Keep gathering info with Se all the time on this Ni theory and patterns I want to go deep into. Lol. I constantly keep researching definitions, videos, read stuff to learn more about functions, almost compusively, but I don't understand if it's gathering or organizing, cause I feel the need to analyze things really in depth and go over them many times, but I also want to gather the more informations and opinions that I can. I always have Fi Ni as the highest functions infact.
You literally described me lol, although I don't think I analyze things that much, I believe that my opinion may be biased so I rely solely on external sources.
Oh my days! I do this! The gather from same source thing. This is why I have spent nearly 5 years learning about typology, even though I exhausted it in the first two years! I can't stop going back to it. I mean I could but I don't want to. I'm still building the internal model
Obsessively looking at basically the same information, presented in a new way, and you can trick yourself into believing it is totally unique. Also-disregarding any information that conflicts the original fascination-Because you are so deep and open minded 😂
Love that you don't get bogged down with trying to explain each function and each personality type. This video was actually really useful for understanding introverted vs extroverted perception functions
“This person is going to want to know more more more more more about the same thing” And here I am gathering more information about the same thing 🤦🏻♀️
@@leumas8688 @Samuel Barbosa Santos uhm did you watch the video? Take a look at 1:00 again. It is clear what he means. He WAS talking about the source. The gatherer will look for food everyday, will it make them organizer? Don't bring pointless arguments and waste my time
Why I hate shopping with my parents... My ISFP mom reads EVERY SINGLE review of EVERY AVAILABLE product and then checks EVERY LAST website for the best deal and then maybe, just maybe, if there's a deadline or imminent need, she makes a purchase. It's exhausting. Meanwhile, 2 hours ago, my ENTJ dad has asked several of his coworkers what they used, ended up discovering some new and improved alternative (that he doesn't really need) and purchased it in bulk after finding some kind of rare deal and talking the salesperson down even further.
I'm an ENTJ, and I'm pretty darn sure, especially now, that Ni is a savior for me. Today I took apart my sink's pipes, and when I put them back together it started leaking. I was extremely flustered and annoyed at this point. I then turned to how to videos on RUclips, and for every single one I would skip to the section in the video that looked like the guy was addressing the part of the sink where mine was leaking. I repeated this like five times, until I finally figured out what the problem was. The fifth guy happened to mention it. I went deep enough with one method, and I got my result I needed. If I'm understanding right, this video would predict that an INTP, for example, would try to scan around a lot of different methods -- he might look at how sinks are built, a few how to videos, a few articles on different kinds of pipes, etc. Ne and Se circle around problems gathering data, whereas Ni and Si drive straight at them, collecting data in one area very thoroughly.
Jordan Apodaca I can't speak for INTPs, but as an ENFP I can comment on Ne: For troubleshooting, I tend to do all of the following: look at how to videos, wiki how picture guides, and search how to forums. If I know someone with knowledge in the area I'll also ask them, but I won't put 100% stock in any of these, even the trusted expert's opinion. The answer lies in the sum of all of my research. Even when I'm trying to solve a problem on my own, I'll come up with two or three different hypotheticals and follow them to their logical conclusions to see if they are possible and which is most likely given the circumstances. I call this canvasing or shopping an idea (to see how much I buy it). I do this for everything, not just problem solving. For me, every projection exists as a function of weighted hypotheticals.
these videos have great replayability -- it reminds me of a friend who would mass consume information but never have any application for it whereas he would absolutely make fun of me for staring at the same thing for hours and hours before making any decisions. he never understood that i was contemplating scenarios and what ifs before finding what was the option i was most comfortable with. it looked insanely dumb to him but in reverse i also felt that mass consumption of information that never seems to get applied anywhere also seems silly. thanks to this video, the context of each way of thinking is well explained
Therefore, I gather facts and then organize patterns. Then narrow the idea down. Then out of ideas because I looked in the same idea over and over again so I found the ultimate way to go.
Ok now I am confused. I have been researching mbti for several years now. I cannot stop researching it. I have typed myself as an Infp9. But this video has me wondering...Because its npt that I dont look at other stuff but I cannot seem to move on from this I just want to to keep going deeper....
I feel the same way, I’m infp 9 as well. Hearing this made me wonder if I was an organizer because I love researching abt mbti over and over and over again learning more abt this specific subject. Maybe it’s our Si that’s savior? I’m not sure. Because other than that I’m pretty positive I’m an infp
You guys find a passion (Fi), and searching it from lots of sources (Ne), which is then transferred to Si and will be used for example typing somebody (Te) I just made this up but it sounds fun idk
The Ni description is a bit terrifying lol. I looked at my iPhone notes, and noticed I have about 20 notes over 6 years on the same thing, spun again. XD
So.. I've been really fucking dense. I've been in this rut for so long and realized mid-stream. I keep coming back to this video and other OPS videos for new insights. :/
I just want to correctly type myself (esp. before claiming to *really* "know" the types of others). But, I don't see how to do that given my dominant function is subconscious (& the people around me could give a hippos load about my crazy mbti fixation lol). I mean, I pretty much know what I want. I tend to buy 1st, research 2nd (cuz I'll most likely forget or run out of $). If I "gather" info on it, it's usually to make sure there are no contraindications. I might consult the tribe.. But, only if I have doubt *&* attachment. If the tribe has something useful to say for me to apply it to one or both of those, I might use it.
So, If I am watching all the possible youtube video's there are to be found about MBTI, days after days, doing all the stupid free tests there are (pseudoscience I know), is that gathering more of the 'same' thing? In one particular day I can read in on astronomy, biology, birdflight, fantasy writing and psychology, and then I think things through so I see a connection between all of them in the essential things, and while studying them, I have this overwhelming sense of wonder...is that gathering Ne or gathering Ni? Same as, as a psychologist I try to link things together from as many different fields in my inner system, where everything is connected, that seems Ni, not? so confusing, but I really really want to figure all these things out, these human needs, functions, decider, observer stuff. So cool. I sometimes come out as INFP or INTP, but I have not sustainable stable relations enough to triangulate. I like the idea of friends but not really like to hang out with them. I would love to create some maginary friends though.
As he first explained gathering I thought what no *gasp* don’t tell me I’ve always been Ne since I gather so much, and then he talks about how Ni thinks they gather a lot...
What if I look all over the place to gather information about the same thing? Is that the gathering one or the organizing one? Because you said the gatherer looks all over at everything and the organizer looks at the same place over and over for one thing
Okay. I recently got a new car. Before I bought the car I went on google and went to a car forum and wanted to see what everyone thought of the car and I saw nothing but good things said about the car and tons of happy owners of that car so I bought that car. I think I watched a review on the car too. But, Searching for facts about my car and watching documentaries and reviews on my car somewhat bore me and isn’t interesting. I just want to see what other people say and if they’re happy with their car. What the hell do I use? And sometimes I do find myself going back to that car forum just to find out a little more about the car.
resurgamJoker Im a Ni dom. If i need to make a choice I quickly sift through all the available information and options, and I trust my intuition to tell me which info I need to hone in on, and which options to discard. And its usually right most if the time. I definitely think outside of the box. But i simply dont care if something is outside or inside the box, i just care about what works best, and i trust my intuition for that. Sometimes the traditional approach is the way to go, sometimes theres a better untraditional way. So in that way im extremely open minded For example, if i was obsessed with getting rich i would even listen to a bum if he gave me financial advice, because that bum might have some crazy genious wisdom. While most other people would probably immediately discard anything the bum says regarding finances. Ni does not care where the information comes from.
Kinda confusing bc i often look for used dr martens in many different places from time to time like marketplace at etc. But I go through several hundred listings, apply filters and add details like the model to find hidden gems at the same time ;-;-;
Can anyone help me? What does this sound like? Se or Ni? So, last winter I decided I needed a high insulating down jacket for our cold winters. I started researching on REI. From there I narrowed it down to 3 brands that I felt had the best products, and then went to RUclips to research these further. I had about 4 jackets from each of these brands in mind. I watched so many videos. I found 1 RUclipsr that I really liked, so watched and focused mainly on his videos. I narrowed my list down to 2 jackets. I compared both of them at length, looking for deals online, etc. I actually started annoying myself because I was having so much trouble deciding between 2. This is the pattern I do with all of my purchases. I'll literally become an expert on a few products, but ignore others completely.
Great vid, this should have come out earlier, before specific Ni/Ne Si/Se videos, not knowing the right definition really confused my typing other people
I gather books and never read. I need help, I am an ENFP and I think I'm destined to fail in the academic field due to my lack of scheduling and being in touch with reality. What can I do to improve my s?
Cool... So my fixated research problem is not Se or Ne.... My obsession specifically looks for specific information in circles... And finds new ways to arrange it over and over obsessively till end goal is planned out properly... All of this just occurred to me when Dave said "FOR THE SAME THING" 😅
Well I’ve watched all the objective personality videos a while ago (every single video lol)… now I’m watching them all over again…. Anyway I’m a INTJ :) lol, I do Ni hard on stuff…when I like it
yay I still have no clue whether Im saviour organise or saviour gather... because im not sure what I like more or what I do 'subconsciously' nor do I know what I prefer doing consciously... this is a pain Like all I know is that Im double decider Fi and Te I think Im N dom but for all I know I could be an ESFP dude... or and ISTJ... Edit: would diving deep into ideas for the sake of knowing, and preffering depth for the sake of knowing more out of a realisation that it just makes life easier, because Im not sure as I fit with: preffering depth over bredth for the Oi but also bouncing from one thing to another and not being scared of chaos and just allowing life to kinda push me along while I relax idk im confused... help
Yeah then you have someone like me who is demon double activated Se-F who overgathers a lot and all over the place (kind of like Ne) but it’s all to serve my savior Ni. And it’s so funny too because my savior Ni is like a given. Doesn’t feel all that special, because OF COURSE it’s there. It’s been there the whole time. It’s almost like something I don’t really see or pay attention to yet all the other functions serve that and Te for me (my two saviors)
Read his comment again. He said that Ni and Te are his two saviors. He says that Se is a demon, but it is double activated, referring to his animals/energies.
I look for information on 1 topic in various places, but stick to that 1 topic & info that solely gives me insight on just that 1 topic. All other information is irrelevant to me. I'm confused whether I'm organise or gather, because I go to various sources, but stick to only topic based info, & all other information I ignore.
I'm kinda thinking it like doing a research project. Your teacher provided you with 10 websites. Someone (like me) is only going on 1 website to answer all my questions. Maybe onto a second one if the hours I spent on the first didn't answer the last questions. Someone else is going to through all the websites blast through the first half really fast. But struggle with the second half that require someone to go more in-depth into a website. Ni and si is going to stick to 1 or 2 websites because why the fuck should I go somewhere else to answer my questions if I can very well answer it all in one place. While se and ne are looking everywhere and anywhere to best answer their questions. Because why the fuck should I stick to one place if it could very well be the wrong answer to my questions.
So, if I for example like a movie, and I watch it over and over and over again (more than 30 times). And I do it in three different languages, but still the same movie. Does this make me Ni? Or if I for example like a certain story trope. And I look for that same trope in different TV series, movies, books, etc. Does this make me Ne or Ni? Or even more - Se or Si? Cuz I tend to do it a lot, I get stuck on a figure skater and forgetting everything watch videos of his programs over and over again. Or once I got hung up on Neil Degrasse Tyson and for days all I did was watch different videos with him, interviews, lectures. And now this... Seriously, I just want to know my type(and also other types and functions, so I can write authentic characters)
Hey I have question. I have always thought of myself as an Ne dom. But recently, I had to do some research for my universities. I was a bit anxious since I have never done something like that before, and I did not really look for much universities. I picked a few that really caught my eye, but did not care about any others. However, I did do a shit ton of research about each university that I picked from like 50 websites/forums. What puts me off is the fact that I refused to research about more universities, as I was afraid to have too much on my plate. Could this have been my demon Si making that decision? Or am I not an Ne dom?
It seems like your main introverted observer function is higher than your main extroverted observer function. You zoned in on a select few universities first (Oi), and then did research on them (Oe). Not only that, but you mentioned being afraid of being overwhelmed about research on too many universities, which seems like Oe inferior. Fear of thoughts (intuition), not fear of the research (sensory), which you already did a lot of. So it seems like you're a single observer with M-Si dom and F-Ne inf.
I gather infos about the same shit , i am gathering infos about mbti like 7 months ago and i cant stop .. i think maybe there is more things that i have to know about it and still dont .. and you know what ? Its true i found new infos from your channel, i stay searching from the same place but there is a time that i feel its done i should see other places ... example : i repeat this video 3 times to fully understand the infos, and cz i think: maybe there is infos i skipped and its important or i didnt hear ..
I look for new information in new sources after having excavated previous sources. As an ENTP I should be Ne, but it looks like you are suggesting I am Si o.O Could somebody please explain?
ProfessorBorax Im also supposedly ENTP but I’m wondering if I am an organizer who thinks he does research. My entire day is spent watching videos on different subjects but the more I think about it the more I realize that a lot of the videos have the same information in them. Confusing...
Everyone has a bit of organizing and a bit of gathering. If one have Ne it is followed by Si. And similarly, if one has Ni it is followed by Se somewhere in the stack. It's just that one tends to be more dominant depending on it's place on the function stack
you know I see a problem what you are saying here an sunder stress savor gather person under stress will probably go to organize function when their savor ne or se is not helping them any longer and if this happens a lot according to op they will mistype .
So what about when you keep going back to Pinterest and saving new information to same 15-ish boards? I mean, I'm gathering new, new, new always expanding. But it has common themes/purposes.
I think this is gathering more than organizing. I'm ENTP and I do the same thing. We have a few areas of interest and we collect everything we can about it.
I'm heavy on gather, i'm realy trying to practice my Organize, i used to want to just learn about loads of different things on the surface level, studying software this has lead to me knowing loads of different programming languages, but being unable to write programs in them past beginner level. I've started actualy sitting down and reading a book on Java and i'm going to read it to the end and then try and do something with it indepth before i go on to another one.
This is great channel but this guy talks not just fast but sometimes you can't even hear letter or whole word that he wanted to pronance. It annoy me so much! Because I can really learn from him, he isn't like rest of the shallow mbti channels, but how exactly can I do that if when I don't hear what he is saying!????!!
Eeer, hes not saying "Organize" is the same as inductive reasoning. Hes already been over this in his "Ti vs Te" video. Further, inductive reasoning is impossible anyway.
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"They gather information FOR. THE. SAME. THING." This is literally me. For whatever floats my boat at any given time.
vierblith yea I’m currently on a very “useful” Star Trek kick.
and I always thought I was a saviour Se, until watching this video
@@ju-lq9jp lol, I thought I was savior organizer before watching this video because I like to organize my stuff for fun and I didn’t know much about it.
so me but wat was this for im lost in his explanations
Turns out I am an INTJ because I only research what supports my belief that I am an INTJ, and keep watching and listening to the same videos from your channel, that prove I am an INTJ.
Nailed it!
This gets even worse when I am stressed. ; )
Thats fi signs maybe ur too attached with ur identity ?
This is me with MBTI. When I find something that I'm interested in I lock into it and think about it all the time. Keep gathering info with Se all the time on this Ni theory and patterns I want to go deep into. Lol. I constantly keep researching definitions, videos, read stuff to learn more about functions, almost compusively, but I don't understand if it's gathering or organizing, cause I feel the need to analyze things really in depth and go over them many times, but I also want to gather the more informations and opinions that I can.
I always have Fi Ni as the highest functions infact.
You literally described me lol, although I don't think I analyze things that much, I believe that my opinion may be biased so I rely solely on external sources.
Same as me ... + i think i may lose this infos one a day so i go deep as much as possible and right it on notes.
Oh my days! I do this! The gather from same source thing. This is why I have spent nearly 5 years learning about typology, even though I exhausted it in the first two years! I can't stop going back to it. I mean I could but I don't want to. I'm still building the internal model
Same for me here :D Whats your type?
@@markusreichelt3811 sounds like Se savior
I keep looking in my fridge... But it's ALWAYS EMPTY. But I keep going back every five minutes although I know it's foodless. 😂 GREAT VIDEOS AS ALWAYS
Bro yes
LOL YES
Kidding I do the same stuff
😂 what function is that?
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Ne is the reason why I landed on this channel. Thanks Ne.
Obsessively looking at basically the same information, presented in a new way, and you can trick yourself into believing it is totally unique. Also-disregarding any information that conflicts the original fascination-Because you are so deep and open minded 😂
A nice case is with Myers-Briggs information...
And this channel
And my inability to understand my type.
Gather information for the same thing vs organise information for different things.
Love that you don't get bogged down with trying to explain each function and each personality type.
This video was actually really useful for understanding introverted vs extroverted perception functions
“This person is going to want to know more more more more more about the same thing”
And here I am gathering more information about the same thing 🤦🏻♀️
Everyone is looking for the same thing, the difference is the source, he was talking about the source.
@@efeucar48 Actually he clearly said "you're gathering information about the same thing"
@@leumas8688 @Samuel Barbosa Santos uhm did you watch the video? Take a look at 1:00 again. It is clear what he means. He WAS talking about the source. The gatherer will look for food everyday, will it make them organizer? Don't bring pointless arguments and waste my time
@@efeucar48 You're right I see
@@leumas8688 sorry for being agressive and thanks for your understanding
Damn it the Ni in me constantly gathers more and more info on the same thing!
Why I hate shopping with my parents... My ISFP mom reads EVERY SINGLE review of EVERY AVAILABLE product and then checks EVERY LAST website for the best deal and then maybe, just maybe, if there's a deadline or imminent need, she makes a purchase. It's exhausting. Meanwhile, 2 hours ago, my ENTJ dad has asked several of his coworkers what they used, ended up discovering some new and improved alternative (that he doesn't really need) and purchased it in bulk after finding some kind of rare deal and talking the salesperson down even further.
I'm an ENTJ, and I'm pretty darn sure, especially now, that Ni is a savior for me.
Today I took apart my sink's pipes, and when I put them back together it started leaking. I was extremely flustered and annoyed at this point. I then turned to how to videos on RUclips, and for every single one I would skip to the section in the video that looked like the guy was addressing the part of the sink where mine was leaking. I repeated this like five times, until I finally figured out what the problem was. The fifth guy happened to mention it. I went deep enough with one method, and I got my result I needed.
If I'm understanding right, this video would predict that an INTP, for example, would try to scan around a lot of different methods -- he might look at how sinks are built, a few how to videos, a few articles on different kinds of pipes, etc. Ne and Se circle around problems gathering data, whereas Ni and Si drive straight at them, collecting data in one area very thoroughly.
Jordan Apodaca You are describing more of a Te vs Ti thing. Te pragmatic thinking vs Ti theoretical thinking.
Jordan Apodaca I can't speak for INTPs, but as an ENFP I can comment on Ne:
For troubleshooting, I tend to do all of the following: look at how to videos, wiki how picture guides, and search how to forums. If I know someone with knowledge in the area I'll also ask them, but I won't put 100% stock in any of these, even the trusted expert's opinion. The answer lies in the sum of all of my research.
Even when I'm trying to solve a problem on my own, I'll come up with two or three different hypotheticals and follow them to their logical conclusions to see if they are possible and which is most likely given the circumstances. I call this canvasing or shopping an idea (to see how much I buy it).
I do this for everything, not just problem solving. For me, every projection exists as a function of weighted hypotheticals.
No bc this is the story of my life
I score as both Ni and high Ne and low Si and low Se I’m not sure if I organize or gather more but I definitely am more intuitive
Interesting. I always read the same thing from 3-4 different sources. I always read or watch the same thing again and again
Yeah I run around, gathering, comparing and still dont get it.
Could you please do a video on shadow functions? It's the least talked about topic considering mbti
these videos have great replayability -- it reminds me of a friend who would mass consume information but never have any application for it whereas he would absolutely make fun of me for staring at the same thing for hours and hours before making any decisions. he never understood that i was contemplating scenarios and what ifs before finding what was the option i was most comfortable with. it looked insanely dumb to him but in reverse i also felt that mass consumption of information that never seems to get applied anywhere also seems silly. thanks to this video, the context of each way of thinking is well explained
So Ni is digging for gold and Se is looking for pearls
So don't choose the value you want, choose the field
Got it
I gather the same thing over and over lol so yeah I guess my Tertiary Ni is a saviour?
Therefore, I gather facts and then organize patterns. Then narrow the idea down. Then out of ideas because I looked in the same idea over and over again so I found the ultimate way to go.
Dave the Authority
Ok now I am confused. I have been researching mbti for several years now. I cannot stop researching it. I have typed myself as an Infp9. But this video has me wondering...Because its npt that I dont look at other stuff but I cannot seem to move on from this I just want to to keep going deeper....
I feel the same way, I’m infp 9 as well. Hearing this made me wonder if I was an organizer because I love researching abt mbti over and over and over again learning more abt this specific subject. Maybe it’s our Si that’s savior? I’m not sure. Because other than that I’m pretty positive I’m an infp
You guys find a passion (Fi), and searching it from lots of sources (Ne), which is then transferred to Si and will be used for example typing somebody (Te)
I just made this up but it sounds fun idk
What if you're compulsively gathering all the time but hate doing it and feel more relaxed resting with your known information?
The Ni description is a bit terrifying lol.
I looked at my iPhone notes, and noticed I have about 20 notes over 6 years on the same thing, spun again. XD
What if you do both to the same degree lol
I love this channel
So.. I've been really fucking dense. I've been in this rut for so long and realized mid-stream. I keep coming back to this video and other OPS videos for new insights. :/
Still not sure which I am.
I just want to correctly type myself (esp. before claiming to *really* "know" the types of others). But, I don't see how to do that given my dominant function is subconscious (& the people around me could give a hippos load about my crazy mbti fixation lol). I mean, I pretty much know what I want. I tend to buy 1st, research 2nd (cuz I'll most likely forget or run out of $). If I "gather" info on it, it's usually to make sure there are no contraindications. I might consult the tribe.. But, only if I have doubt *&* attachment. If the tribe has something useful to say for me to apply it to one or both of those, I might use it.
Craigslist baby one more time!
what if i find myself do both almost equal amount thooo
So, If I am watching all the possible youtube video's there are to be found about MBTI, days after days, doing all the stupid free tests there are (pseudoscience I know), is that gathering more of the 'same' thing? In one particular day I can read in on astronomy, biology, birdflight, fantasy writing and psychology, and then I think things through so I see a connection between all of them in the essential things, and while studying them, I have this overwhelming sense of wonder...is that gathering Ne or gathering Ni? Same as, as a psychologist I try to link things together from as many different fields in my inner system, where everything is connected, that seems Ni, not? so confusing, but I really really want to figure all these things out, these human needs, functions, decider, observer stuff. So cool. I sometimes come out as INFP or INTP, but I have not sustainable stable relations enough to triangulate. I like the idea of friends but not really like to hang out with them. I would love to create some maginary friends though.
As he first explained gathering I thought what no *gasp* don’t tell me I’ve always been Ne since I gather so much, and then he talks about how Ni thinks they gather a lot...
What if I look all over the place to gather information about the same thing? Is that the gathering one or the organizing one? Because you said the gatherer looks all over at everything and the organizer looks at the same place over and over for one thing
I have the same question, lol.
@@Barksenji And I asked it 3 years ago to no avail, so I guess we may never know :/
what if i like one thing and try to have it grow in random directions so it can be applied on many things?
Okay. I recently got a new car. Before I bought the car I went on google and went to a car forum and wanted to see what everyone thought of the car and I saw nothing but good things said about the car and tons of happy owners of that car so I bought that car. I think I watched a review on the car too.
But, Searching for facts about my car and watching documentaries and reviews on my car somewhat bore me and isn’t interesting. I just want to see what other people say and if they’re happy with their car.
What the hell do I use?
And sometimes I do find myself going back to that car forum just to find out a little more about the car.
You're using organize and tribe functions
Jacob Sloan so Ni or Si and Fe or Te I presume? Interesting. I wish someone could interview me because I’d like to see myself in third person.
If you go watch the Self vs Tribe video safe released just before this he basically describes you
Dave*
Such a hilarious explanation of Ni... Track the neuroticism not the story!
So what I'm seeing is that Ni is more prone to attacking something with a concentrated brute force as opposed to seeking answers outside of the box?
resurgamJoker Im a Ni dom. If i need to make a choice I quickly sift through all the available information and options, and I trust my intuition to tell me which info I need to hone in on, and which options to discard. And its usually right most if the time.
I definitely think outside of the box. But i simply dont care if something is outside or inside the box, i just care about what works best, and i trust my intuition for that. Sometimes the traditional approach is the way to go, sometimes theres a better untraditional way.
So in that way im extremely open minded
For example, if i was obsessed with getting rich i would even listen to a bum if he gave me financial advice, because that bum might have some crazy genious wisdom. While most other people would probably immediately discard anything the bum says regarding finances. Ni does not care where the information comes from.
im extremely high Se and Ne can someone help me as to what this means
Kinda confusing bc i often look for used dr martens in many different places from time to time like marketplace at etc.
But I go through several hundred listings, apply filters and add details like the model to find hidden gems at the same time ;-;-;
Can anyone help me? What does this sound like? Se or Ni? So, last winter I decided I needed a high insulating down jacket for our cold winters. I started researching on REI. From there I narrowed it down to 3 brands that I felt had the best products, and then went to RUclips to research these further. I had about 4 jackets from each of these brands in mind. I watched so many videos. I found 1 RUclipsr that I really liked, so watched and focused mainly on his videos. I narrowed my list down to 2 jackets. I compared both of them at length, looking for deals online, etc. I actually started annoying myself because I was having so much trouble deciding between 2.
This is the pattern I do with all of my purchases. I'll literally become an expert on a few products, but ignore others completely.
Ni. Cause Ni want the best possible outcome.
Se will make you buy different for different purposes. It won't be fixated as much.
Great vid, this should have come out earlier, before specific Ni/Ne Si/Se videos, not knowing the right definition really confused my typing other people
this is probably the third time watching this video I guess I'm on the organizer side
The more I learn OP the more I dumb I think I am
Im an organise. So fucking obvious.
Edit: Also I think "obsession" also works as another (maybe more relatable) word for Oi
Not gonna lie, I’m having trouble understanding the graphics in this one 😣
+Milkshakes That's because they are using Quantum Mechanics to explain the dynamics of cognitive functions... :)
Dominant observers get on my nerves - both gatherer and organizing. Dominant deciders FTW
This is from two years ago... but I dont care
-OxFiTeOx (because idk what I am lol)
@@pierogipower3075 enfp guess
I gather books and never read. I need help, I am an ENFP and I think I'm destined to fail in the academic field due to my lack of scheduling and being in touch with reality. What can I do to improve my s?
Cool... So my fixated research problem is not Se or Ne.... My obsession specifically looks for specific information in circles... And finds new ways to arrange it over and over obsessively till end goal is planned out properly... All of this just occurred to me when Dave said "FOR THE SAME THING" 😅
Well I’ve watched all the objective personality videos a while ago (every single video lol)… now I’m watching them all over again…. Anyway I’m a INTJ :) lol, I do Ni hard on stuff…when I like it
yay I still have no clue whether Im saviour organise or saviour gather...
because im not sure what I like more or what I do 'subconsciously' nor do I know what I prefer doing consciously... this is a pain Like all I know is that Im double decider Fi and Te
I think Im N dom but for all I know I could be an ESFP dude... or and ISTJ...
Edit: would diving deep into ideas for the sake of knowing, and preffering depth for the sake of knowing more out of a realisation that it just makes life easier, because Im not sure as I fit with: preffering depth over bredth for the Oi but also bouncing from one thing to another and not being scared of chaos and just allowing life to kinda push me along while I relax
idk im confused... help
Yeah then you have someone like me who is demon double activated Se-F who overgathers a lot and all over the place (kind of like Ne) but it’s all to serve my savior Ni.
And it’s so funny too because my savior Ni is like a given. Doesn’t feel all that special, because OF COURSE it’s there. It’s been there the whole time. It’s almost like something I don’t really see or pay attention to yet all the other functions serve that and Te for me (my two saviors)
He specifically said that your fourth function is not a savior. Go back and try again.
Read his comment again. He said that Ni and Te are his two saviors. He says that Se is a demon, but it is double activated, referring to his animals/energies.
Yes, exactly :)
I look for information on 1 topic in various places, but stick to that 1 topic & info that solely gives me insight on just that 1 topic. All other information is irrelevant to me.
I'm confused whether I'm organise or gather, because I go to various sources, but stick to only topic based info, & all other information I ignore.
I'm kinda thinking it like doing a research project.
Your teacher provided you with 10 websites. Someone (like me) is only going on 1 website to answer all my questions. Maybe onto a second one if the hours I spent on the first didn't answer the last questions. Someone else is going to through all the websites blast through the first half really fast. But struggle with the second half that require someone to go more in-depth into a website.
Ni and si is going to stick to 1 or 2 websites because why the fuck should I go somewhere else to answer my questions if I can very well answer it all in one place. While se and ne are looking everywhere and anywhere to best answer their questions. Because why the fuck should I stick to one place if it could very well be the wrong answer to my questions.
So, if I for example like a movie, and I watch it over and over and over again (more than 30 times). And I do it in three different languages, but still the same movie. Does this make me Ni? Or if I for example like a certain story trope. And I look for that same trope in different TV series, movies, books, etc. Does this make me Ne or Ni? Or even more - Se or Si?
Cuz I tend to do it a lot, I get stuck on a figure skater and forgetting everything watch videos of his programs over and over again. Or once I got hung up on Neil Degrasse Tyson and for days all I did was watch different videos with him, interviews, lectures. And now this... Seriously, I just want to know my type(and also other types and functions, so I can write authentic characters)
Hey I have question. I have always thought of myself as an Ne dom. But recently, I had to do some research for my universities. I was a bit anxious since I have never done something like that before, and I did not really look for much universities. I picked a few that really caught my eye, but did not care about any others. However, I did do a shit ton of research about each university that I picked from like 50 websites/forums. What puts me off is the fact that I refused to research about more universities, as I was afraid to have too much on my plate. Could this have been my demon Si making that decision? Or am I not an Ne dom?
It seems like your main introverted observer function is higher than your main extroverted observer function. You zoned in on a select few universities first (Oi), and then did research on them (Oe). Not only that, but you mentioned being afraid of being overwhelmed about research on too many universities, which seems like Oe inferior. Fear of thoughts (intuition), not fear of the research (sensory), which you already did a lot of. So it seems like you're a single observer with M-Si dom and F-Ne inf.
I gather infos about the same shit , i am gathering infos about mbti like 7 months ago and i cant stop .. i think maybe there is more things that i have to know about it and still dont .. and you know what ? Its true i found new infos from your channel, i stay searching from the same place but there is a time that i feel its done i should see other places ... example : i repeat this video 3 times to fully understand the infos, and cz i think: maybe there is infos i skipped and its important or i didnt hear ..
Me watching this 4 minutes of video for last 10 minutes just to know whether I'm an INTP or not.
Ok, i'm an Ni user. Don't know if an INxJ or ENxJ. The problem is: any of them might have problems i don't want to deal with..
I might do this but ive always been extraverted so am i a an ni or ne
I look for new information in new sources after having excavated previous sources. As an ENTP I should be Ne, but it looks like you are suggesting I am Si o.O
Could somebody please explain?
ProfessorBorax Im also supposedly ENTP but I’m wondering if I am an organizer who thinks he does research. My entire day is spent watching videos on different subjects but the more I think about it the more I realize that a lot of the videos have the same information in them. Confusing...
Everyone has a bit of organizing and a bit of gathering. If one have Ne it is followed by Si. And similarly, if one has Ni it is followed by Se somewhere in the stack. It's just that one tends to be more dominant depending on it's place on the function stack
you know I see a problem what you are saying here an sunder stress savor gather person under stress will probably go to organize function when their savor ne or se is not helping them any longer and if this happens a lot according to op they will mistype .
So what about when you keep going back to Pinterest and saving new information to same 15-ish boards? I mean, I'm gathering new, new, new always expanding. But it has common themes/purposes.
I think this is gathering more than organizing. I'm ENTP and I do the same thing. We have a few areas of interest and we collect everything we can about it.
I agree with Diego, probably organize. That’s too little information to go off of though.
I think he is a gatherer, Jerry xD
fucking hell im autistic this makes it 10x more confusing because special interests
You did not talk about Ne Si
Hes not talking about Se and Ni either. Don't get confused by the pictures. In reality, hes talking about Oe vs Oi.
got it! Thanks..
I'm heavy on gather, i'm realy trying to practice my Organize, i used to want to just learn about loads of different things on the surface level, studying software this has lead to me knowing loads of different programming languages, but being unable to write programs in them past beginner level. I've started actualy sitting down and reading a book on Java and i'm going to read it to the end and then try and do something with it indepth before i go on to another one.
Relatable but is it just a bias?
This is great channel but this guy talks not just fast but sometimes you can't even hear letter or whole word that he wanted to pronance. It annoy me so much! Because I can really learn from him, he isn't like rest of the shallow mbti channels, but how exactly can I do that if when I don't hear what he is saying!????!!
It's depth vs breadth
No Dave, perception functions do not organize. Inductive reasoning (heuristics) is judging.
Eeer, hes not saying "Organize" is the same as inductive reasoning. Hes already been over this in his "Ti vs Te" video. Further, inductive reasoning is impossible anyway.