I bought a different Seiko with the same movement. The second hand was totally misaligned. My watchmaker calibrate the second hand perfectly for 15 Euro 🤗
for real. my casio Oceanus was only slightly more and every second hits the marker just like a $2k GS. i dont get it. intentionally keeping that one detail out of reach of normal Seikos to maintain the value prop of GS??
I'm glad someone finally reviewed this piece. I've been waiting months for this, great video. I really like the looks of it, this is sort of a reissue of the vintage Seiko Type II quartz models. So it's true Seiko design. I'm really sad to read the bad reputation of this watch, only because the seconds hand, people forgetting that even most Tissot doesn't have perfectly alligned second hand, all of the quartz watches I own, one of them swiss, have misaligned second hand. Except for the second hand Seiko finally made something great for it's price. Thinking about getting one, but in different color.
Nice review, great photography as always. Nice looking case, dial and bracelet 👍, I also like the hidden 20mm lugs, so versatile, but the second hand missing most of the markers would drive me nuts!
Stunning, and the hands missing the markers is an easy fix...may be pocking one of these up in the near future..PRX has nothingnto worry about but the watch shoild certainly be a consideration.😊 pop this on the flat link seiko bracelet and you have an absolute winner. great video and great watch...
Lovely watch. They really hit the mark with the simple dial and good looking bracelet. Also a good choice to go with Sapphire in a 'budget' watch for a change instead of the usual hardlex. If this was a solar quartz I probably would have bought this one right away.
Have you seen the new colors coming to that Edifice line? it's getting a green, blue and tiffany dial option. BTW, the Edifice can be fitted with a 35mm PRX bracelet and then it becomes a PRX killer by itself.
@@BraveBeaters the Tiffany looks amazing but will probably age tok quickly. My eyes are set on the metallic blue. I already have the black one on a modified bracelet and was planning on getting the white one before I saw the new colors. As much as I like mechanical watches, I keep going back to Edifice for ultimate bang per buck
I bought a blue dial one for 167 USD a few weeks ago because I liked the looks of it. I've been enjoying it as a vintage watch (quartz, smaller scale, design) with modern materials (sapphire crystal, solid bracelet links). I suppose the lower the cost to acquire, the better it feels. This Seiko splits the difference between the two PRX sizes nicely. Seems like a good baseline watch. Not too splashy but reliable with nice enough looks. Also been lucky as the movement within has better seconds hand alignment than the example filmed here and seems to have only lost 1 second over 2 to 3 weeks.
There are no issues with the second hand alignment. There is a bit of reflection on the crystal indicating the the table/surface that it was filmed on was slightly tilted. If you watch the video carefully there are shots where the prx does not even hit the markers. Execellent video and nice shots by the way!
Finally saw this watch in person today. Love the white dial variant. But didn’t end up getting it because next to a PRX, this just looks plain and a little boring. It is well finished, and surprisingly slime and comfortable. But I wish the bracelet has a noticeable taper like on the PRX.
1:37 I always ask myself: why is the seconds hand always off by few degrees and never hits exactly the middle of the time indicator? To me this is super annoying that it is never in line with the indicators 😅 also happens with other watches. Is it by purpose? Is it due to budget constraints? Is it better in the luxury watches segment?
Looks better then the prx imo. Thinner and the dial is (coming) more alive. Only wished there was no gold in the bracelet on the dual tone one. Too much gold for me now so i will go for the silver/white one
Owning the Edifice and been excited to see some new color ways getting released I feel like Seiko is missing out with this release and jumps on the 'hype train' of integrated sports watches a good bit too late. Especially given that it actually misses every single minute mark and looks even more catastrophic when it comes to the main indices (no matter how nicely those are done) I'd prefer the Casio every time. More appealing design, better price for the given quality.
I don't know if it's just me, but I can't stand the seconds hand not aligning with any markers! Specially the 12 o'clock marker. At @1:35 it absolutely skips the marker!
What do you think about Festina F20034/2? It seems a similar concept to Tissot PRX at half the price, for the quartz version. I've only seen videos of it, but I've been very impressed by the look of it, especialy the quality of the bracelet.
2:20 Casio S108D is best watch in history for price under 300$, price is 120$, yes we all pay more 150-170$ for better bracelet but, wow it have 7.8 mm thickness and look so good like its from space
Yes the price in europe is indeed pretty spicy. All I can find is 330eu. Maybe some Amazon options of 300eu but that's it. I doubt you find this for 200 dollar anywhere?
As I look at this review, the more you show the Casio Edifice, the more I tend on wanting THAT one instead of the Seiko 🤷🏼♂ Andrei, can you clarify the product number for the Casio Edifice? I really love this simple design but can't seem to find the reference you mentioned in your video - Thanks my friend.
What about Citizen Tsuyosa, I would put it side by side with PRX regarding the price and quality and if we include the automatic mechanism of Citizen I would say It is killer of them all. Just my thoughts :) What's yours?
Hmm, an intriguing watch but I’m left feeling a little underwhelmed - the PRX has perfect proportions from a design perspective and is nigh impossible to beat - it’s the PRX for me all day long - there’s a reason why it’s so popular
This Seiko has three things going on for it: Great looking dial, amazing finishing and price point. Too many things against it though: integrated bracelet looks bad and doesn't fit the style of this watch. Regular lugs would have been so much better. Second hand alignment: second hand not hitting the minute marks (offset and should be a tad longer). I don't get Seikos. They always tend to have some great elements but ALWAYS fall short when it comes to wrapping up the package.
It's looks like a very nicely finished watch, but I prefer the overall look of the PRX. How do the F06.115 and the 6N52 compare? The ETA is a 3 jewel movement and the 6N52 is a no jewel movement that overall looks much less nicely made. Does it matter in any way? They have similar battery life, and they are both essentially replaceable modules thather than servisable movements. It would be nice to hear more about the pros and cons of the movements when comparing watches.
If they used a VH-series movement instead, which i think would fit this level of quanrtz watch, then the apparent second hand alignment issue wouldnt be a thing either.
Mine is hitting all of the markers. Also my old seiko arctura. My prx is hitting the half of it. I've seen a lot of pictures/video's of casio quartz watches missing the markers
i just melted in sadness when i saw the clasp... why not a butterfly one? is it really really that hard for a seiko piece around $200 to check all the boxes?
OK, now tell me why my very first adult 100 USD Timex Weekender Chronograph watch has spot on second hands aligned with the indices and this SEIKO does not have that... WTF If it was automatic I'd get it immediately, finally a good sizing.
Damnit Seiko sure know how to steal the show, it's hard to move on from this brand collection. Should I buy this?? PRX powermatic is on my wrist btw but the quarzt is tempting and now this piece is around the corner.
BM7490-52E by Citizen is vey similar to this Seiko. Also with sapphire, available under 200. That citizen corso has more interesting hands than this Seiko. Both are nice. The citizen is eco drive, charged by light. The seiko is slightly smaller, which is better. Citizen is 41mm. Would have been nice to include the Citizen for a comparison, beyond the Casio.
For 200$ the specs certainly punch above their weight but something just feels off about it. Maybe its the horizontal lines on the dial. Or the odd bracelet. Quartz hands not hitting the markers always make me cringe. I want to like it but it just seems to fall a bit flat for me. Also can we all just get on board with AR coating for all watches? 2023 and i can’t imagine it costs more than a few cents to add. As a complete aside, might I suggest a review of the marathon steel navigator.
Nice to see Seiko keeping their tradition of the second hand missing every marker in the worst possile way.
Hahahah! True, they are completely offset!
LOL! And if if had a bezel, would have been totally misaligned. So you can rest assured is genuine ;)
I bought a different Seiko with the same movement. The second hand was totally misaligned. My watchmaker calibrate the second hand perfectly for 15 Euro 🤗
Not sure you can observe that from those camera angles. 5:44 looks spot on
...So much for the Made in Japan written on the dial 🙄🔫
The difference from Casio is that Casio's second hand will hit the indices.
really interesting piece, almost like Seiko remembered why people loved them in the first place
From time to time, they throw us a bone :))) without making us breaking the bank for a cool seiko.
If Seiko can line up the second hand with the minute marks, this would have been great.
for real. my casio Oceanus was only slightly more and every second hits the marker just like a $2k GS. i dont get it. intentionally keeping that one detail out of reach of normal Seikos to maintain the value prop of GS??
@@mundie33 That'd be funny. The value prop for GS is that we ... actually care to line up our second hands with our minute markers!
?? The effect seen in this video is due to camera angle.
@@kentohamaoka4063 Definitely not camera angle. Rewatch the B-roll from 4:17
@@kentohamaoka4063 yeah lol
Just bought it and it’s beautiful. Light weight perfect for a daily .
I’m not a fan of the lines on the dial, but beyond that, I think this is a real find for $200
True :)
bro whatsup with the dial, whts wrong
why you guys hating on the dial@@BraveBeaters
IMO the dial texture makes the watch something special. I like it!
I'm glad someone finally reviewed this piece. I've been waiting months for this, great video. I really like the looks of it, this is sort of a reissue of the vintage Seiko Type II quartz models. So it's true Seiko design. I'm really sad to read the bad reputation of this watch, only because the seconds hand, people forgetting that even most Tissot doesn't have perfectly alligned second hand, all of the quartz watches I own, one of them swiss, have misaligned second hand. Except for the second hand Seiko finally made something great for it's price. Thinking about getting one, but in different color.
Thanks for making the video, would've never known this beauty existed!
I bought the SUR555 (blue) a yr ago ... Love it, the dimension fit perfectly with my 6.5inch wrist
buying one this week. a Christmas gift for myself. thank you for the review
Thank you for always telling us about new models
Thank you. Always enjoy your informative videos.
Nice review, great photography as always. Nice looking case, dial and bracelet 👍, I also like the hidden 20mm lugs, so versatile, but the second hand missing most of the markers would drive me nuts!
Stunning, and the hands missing the markers is an easy fix...may be pocking one of these up in the near future..PRX has nothingnto worry about but the watch shoild certainly be a consideration.😊 pop this on the flat link seiko bracelet and you have an absolute winner. great video and great watch...
What is the easy fix for the hands missing the markers? It seems to miss by varying degrees at different points in its sweep..
@@fuzzytalzwatchmaker.
@@ragnarlothbrok936 Thanks
I have bought one and I just love it! So nice from every angle.
bought this watch a week ago and to me they look great
no issues with the second hand btw
Lovely watch. They really hit the mark with the simple dial and good looking bracelet. Also a good choice to go with Sapphire in a 'budget' watch for a change instead of the usual hardlex. If this was a solar quartz I probably would have bought this one right away.
Seiko uses sapphire in their quartz lines.
Great video as always. I personally like to see you review the new Certina DS-7 which is another new integrated bracelet watch.
Have you seen the new colors coming to that Edifice line? it's getting a green, blue and tiffany dial option. BTW, the Edifice can be fitted with a 35mm PRX bracelet and then it becomes a PRX killer by itself.
DAMN! the Tiffany one is a must have! :D They are really milking the cow with these colors.
@@BraveBeaters the Tiffany looks amazing but will probably age tok quickly. My eyes are set on the metallic blue. I already have the black one on a modified bracelet and was planning on getting the white one before I saw the new colors.
As much as I like mechanical watches, I keep going back to Edifice for ultimate bang per buck
I bought a blue dial one for 167 USD a few weeks ago because I liked the looks of it. I've been enjoying it as a vintage watch (quartz, smaller scale, design) with modern materials (sapphire crystal, solid bracelet links). I suppose the lower the cost to acquire, the better it feels.
This Seiko splits the difference between the two PRX sizes nicely. Seems like a good baseline watch. Not too splashy but reliable with nice enough looks.
Also been lucky as the movement within has better seconds hand alignment than the example filmed here and seems to have only lost 1 second over 2 to 3 weeks.
Where did you buy it for this cheap?
yeah exactly, i can only find it for 330 euro
Sure the bracelet links are solid?
I absolutely LOVE the dimension on that Seiko, holy hell - I think I might get one😂
There are no issues with the second hand alignment. There is a bit of reflection on the crystal indicating the the table/surface that it was filmed on was slightly tilted. If you watch the video carefully there are shots where the prx does not even hit the markers.
Execellent video and nice shots by the way!
Beautiful watch let down by the movement. I don’t have a problem with quartz, it just needs to be well done quartz.
I totally agree!
Finally saw this watch in person today. Love the white dial variant. But didn’t end up getting it because next to a PRX, this just looks plain and a little boring. It is well finished, and surprisingly slime and comfortable. But I wish the bracelet has a noticeable taper like on the PRX.
I'll keep my casio edifice, the design is great for the price, it has a solar movement and it doesn't have the alignment problem with the second hand
Solid piece, that solar Edifice :)
1:37 I always ask myself: why is the seconds hand always off by few degrees and never hits exactly the middle of the time indicator?
To me this is super annoying that it is never in line with the indicators 😅 also happens with other watches.
Is it by purpose? Is it due to budget constraints? Is it better in the luxury watches segment?
😍Thats a beautiful watch
It is! :)
@@BraveBeaterslooks like the Eco Drive Citizen Corso BM7490-52E which can be found under $200
May I ask where you found a listing of $200 ? I don´t see anything below 300
Looks better then the prx imo. Thinner and the dial is (coming) more alive. Only wished there was no gold in the bracelet on the dual tone one. Too much gold for me now so i will go for the silver/white one
I think it could like very sharp/dressy with a beads of rice bracelet, I really like this watch. Thank you for the video!
Cheers! :)
Owning the Edifice and been excited to see some new color ways getting released I feel like Seiko is missing out with this release and jumps on the 'hype train' of integrated sports watches a good bit too late. Especially given that it actually misses every single minute mark and looks even more catastrophic when it comes to the main indices (no matter how nicely those are done) I'd prefer the Casio every time. More appealing design, better price for the given quality.
which edifice?
@@mundie33 The EFR-S108D-1AV, same one that's shown in the video as well
Would love to see this design with an automatic movement at around 300-400€. Then I'd definitely buy it.
It’s a nice compliment to the Tissot in one’s collection
Is it just the angle or is this thing just not hitting the seconds?
They are actually in between the markers :)
It's the angle
I would agree - the PRX has a certain flair the Seiko lacks - I think you sorta said that 🤔
You summarized it better :D
Before the PRX hype, Seiko has made several Seiko 5s in the past with integrates bracelet. This newest model looks the best I think.
For once Seiko actually released a sub 40 mm watch. I like the dimensions of this one
I can only find it for 300 euros here in Spain. Where do you watch nerds always find watches so much cheaper?
You have a new subscriber. Affordable watches❤. Nice Seiko 👍I'm a seiko 🐢 fan. A BIG JAPANESE WATCH ENTUSIASTH .
Welcome aboard, Tommy! :)
Kinda disappointed that seiko didn't include an automatic movement. But one can hope that an auto version will come later...
Nice camera work
Cheers!
I love it.Colour variation's ?
Would be awesome if you mod it to Grand Seiko hands.
I don't know if it's just me, but I can't stand the seconds hand not aligning with any markers! Specially the 12 o'clock marker. At @1:35 it absolutely skips the marker!
I got the green edifice for around 90$ on black friday sale ❤️
That second hand missing the markers.... Man I got goosebump.
What do you think about Festina F20034/2? It seems a similar concept to Tissot PRX at half the price, for the quartz version. I've only seen videos of it, but I've been very impressed by the look of it, especialy the quality of the bracelet.
2:20 Casio S108D is best watch in history for price under 300$, price is 120$, yes we all pay more 150-170$ for better bracelet but, wow it have 7.8 mm thickness and look so good like its from space
This or citizen tsuyosa or PRX quartz ? I'm confused btw these options. Loving your videos
oh boy, here we go, I was keeping this watch on the hush hush, its out now, very very nice looking watch.
Nice shots with your Shunbun Andrei 😀
The rest doesn't matter so much...
haha! Thanks!
Yes the price in europe is indeed pretty spicy. All I can find is 330eu. Maybe some Amazon options of 300eu but that's it. I doubt you find this for 200 dollar anywhere?
Jomashop/ebay
That seconds hand is falling everywhere else but the second markers. It says a lot about that low quality movement inside.
Nice watch.
Nice but I have yet to see one where the seconds hand lines up with the markers :{
Looks like a beautiful piece, unfortunately I have a small wrist so I really do need a 35mm watch
Salut, intre Tissot PRX si Gentelman care crezi ca este un ceas mai bun ? Multumesc !
Daca ne dai si noua un pont de unde putem cumpara ceasul asta la 200$ ar fi valoros si pentru noi. Mersi fain.
Ebay, salut.
As I look at this review, the more you show the Casio Edifice, the more I tend on wanting THAT one instead of the Seiko 🤷🏼♂
Andrei, can you clarify the product number for the Casio Edifice? I really love this simple design but can't seem to find the reference you mentioned in your video - Thanks my friend.
it looks good but i dont like that the secondhand again dont hit the numbers/strokes correctly..
What about Citizen Tsuyosa, I would put it side by side with PRX regarding the price and quality and if we include the automatic mechanism of Citizen I would say It is killer of them all. Just my thoughts :) What's yours?
That European prices are spicy is an understatement! Literally 400 bucks in Sweden 😂
the production on your channel is insane
I like it but hate that the second hand doesn't line up properly.
I bought the blue face SUR555 super awesome
Hmm, an intriguing watch but I’m left feeling a little underwhelmed - the PRX has perfect proportions from a design perspective and is nigh impossible to beat - it’s the PRX for me all day long - there’s a reason why it’s so popular
Prx is better! Hands down! :)
This Seiko has three things going on for it: Great looking dial, amazing finishing and price point. Too many things against it though: integrated bracelet looks bad and doesn't fit the style of this watch. Regular lugs would have been so much better. Second hand alignment: second hand not hitting the minute marks (offset and should be a tad longer). I don't get Seikos. They always tend to have some great elements but ALWAYS fall short when it comes to wrapping up the package.
the prx is too big and ugly. THe shape is very werid compared to this
It's looks like a very nicely finished watch, but I prefer the overall look of the PRX.
How do the F06.115 and the 6N52 compare? The ETA is a 3 jewel movement and the 6N52 is a no jewel movement that overall looks much less nicely made.
Does it matter in any way? They have similar battery life, and they are both essentially replaceable modules thather than servisable movements.
It would be nice to hear more about the pros and cons of the movements when comparing watches.
Nothing can beat the prx. No joke
Is the seconds hand moving stiffly? It doesn't seem too wobbly as in common quartz movements
Not sure if it’s just me, but why does the seconds hand never aligns with any markers
If they used a VH-series movement instead, which i think would fit this level of quanrtz watch, then the apparent second hand alignment issue wouldnt be a thing either.
If this didn't have the date window I'd buy ten.
I prefer the Citizen Tsuyosa to all of these... Similar price but the automatic movement gives it the edge.
PRX is also missing the markers. IIRC only Casio cares about it in Quartz
Mine is hitting all of the markers. Also my old seiko arctura. My prx is hitting the half of it. I've seen a lot of pictures/video's of casio quartz watches missing the markers
Is this movement good, or better go with some ETA / Tissot arround 200$ ?
i just melted in sadness when i saw the clasp... why not a butterfly one? is it really really that hard for a seiko piece around $200 to check all the boxes?
I love the misalignment 😂
The second hand alignment looks catastrophic… :/
Seiko knows their swipes :D
Aren't those shrouded lugs instead of an integrated bracelet?
Is there a automatic version for this seiko?? And what the model for this seiko?
Stick an NH35 in it and charge an extra 25 quid. It looks like it actively trying to miss the marks with its second hand.
I own this exact model and i've never noticed the finishing on the indexes😂
OK, now tell me why my very first adult 100 USD Timex Weekender Chronograph watch has spot on second hands aligned with the indices and this SEIKO does not have that... WTF
If it was automatic I'd get it immediately, finally a good sizing.
Damnit Seiko sure know how to steal the show, it's hard to move on from this brand collection. Should I buy this?? PRX powermatic is on my wrist btw but the quarzt is tempting and now this piece is around the corner.
QRTZ - SERIOUSLY?
IF YOU WANT QRTZ - JUST GET A DIGITAL ONE
honestly, I feel Tissot PRX is more elegant although Seiko is cheaper. Would you care the price difference?
Read one comment about a misaligned second hand and now I can't see anything but the misaligned second hand! LOL
micro adjust on clasp ?
nope. :(
@@BraveBeaters i mean not "on flight" )) just extra holes . I found in another video that they are in .
I see on the site the second hand lines up with the markers but every video I've seen of this watch has it misaligned
Do they offer an automatic version?
As far as I know, no
Is there an automatic version?
Nice watch, but its more like 300e in Europe (France). And the second hand misalignement is quite a turn off.
Is there a difference between the SUR557 and the SUR557p1?
Ive been trying to figure this out also. The only difference I noticed is that the SUR557 is 40mm while SUR557P1 is 39mm.
Is it still hardlex 😅?? And is there a size of 35-37mm if no it won't work!
Tissot just made a watch that doesn't push the concept of oversized watch
What are you saying at the end? I could never understand it. "Be brave ?"
calm down guys, seiko is just showing us the moments between moments
Is there an automatic one?
Great looking watch, although a shame they don’t make the same exact watch with automatic movement…
BM7490-52E by Citizen is vey similar to this Seiko. Also with sapphire, available under 200. That citizen corso has more interesting hands than this Seiko. Both are nice. The citizen is eco drive, charged by light. The seiko is slightly smaller, which is better. Citizen is 41mm. Would have been nice to include the Citizen for a comparison, beyond the Casio.
For 200$ the specs certainly punch above their weight but something just feels off about it. Maybe its the horizontal lines on the dial. Or the odd bracelet. Quartz hands not hitting the markers always make me cringe. I want to like it but it just seems to fall a bit flat for me.
Also can we all just get on board with AR coating for all watches? 2023 and i can’t imagine it costs more than a few cents to add.
As a complete aside, might I suggest a review of the marathon steel navigator.