@@TheAurelianProject Sweet summer child, the author uses real events, characterizations, etc for his inspirations. It’s actually pathetic that you don’t see how spot on this Drumph reference truly is.
@@shannond7437 uh huh, how are you liking the new wars, failing economy, skyrocketing inflation, prices, national debt, rapidly increasing government oversight, and outright treachery by our own politicians?
Joffery would've been worse than Aerys II, feels like the only reason he's placed lower is only because he happened to die before he got worse but he always had potential to be crueler than Aerys II. At least one of them wasn't born crazy since Aerys II slowly descended into madness while Joffery showed signs of a psychopath from the start.
He could've been a mix of Aerys II and Maegor "The Cruel" if he grew up and ruled Westeros without Tywin as a babysitter. He might've ended up like the real life King Edward II of England or Richard II of England or Charles I of England and Scotland. At that point, the entire continent would've risen up against Joffrey and The Lannister-Tyrell Alliance.
@Geoffrey Wakeley no it isn't, genetically two heterozygote twins are identical to normal sibling, it would be different if they were homozygous (identical twins), but then they would be the same sex, so they could never have children together.. so genetically there is no difference if they are twins or normal siblings
@Geoffrey Wakeley really? I never heard of something like that.. I don't understand how that could happen, as monozygotic twins share 100% of the DNA, which include the xy xx chromosome pair which determines sex at birth.. i could be wrong tho i am not a biologist.. so yea if you had to monozygotic twins with different sexes then yea it would be worst if they had a kid, but for any normal twin, it wold be identical to a normal sibling (on average)..
From seeing him in the show, Robert Baratheon just came across as tragic and stuck in the past. His dialogue always had mention of times gone, the good ol' days. Past battles, growing up in the Eyrie with Ned and Jon Arryn, his many sexual conquests, and Lyana Stark. He never focused on what was happening around him, and the only current event he paid any attention to was Daenerys's status due to his hatred for the Targaryens after Rhaegar's deeds. Additionally, Robert was a great warrior, but what's the warrior to do when there's no more battles to be fought? A great warrior, a good friend, in different circumstances, perhaps a better husband and father, but he could never let go of the past.
Robert was like that guy who peaks in high school as the popular quarterback that wins the state championship, but never amounts to more than that. So he's stuck in the past wanting to relive his greatest hits instead of moving forward.
The best would be king jaeharys imo other than aegon the conquer. But aegon didn't really do anything but unite the seven kingdoms which does create peace after killing all the trouble makers but damn what a steep price when you think about it. But jaeharys and aegon before aerys were my top 2 best Kings of westeros.
@@bakthihapuarachchi3447 oh crap my bad! Lol Well that's way harder and complicated but I'm sure one day that Martin will give a detailed list of everyone with rumors. Lol
I actually think Viserys I was the one most at blame for the dance with dragons He himself was “elected” king by a decision that completely invalidated feminine lines in succession. He knew having Rhaenyra as heir would cause a war and yet did nothing to prevent it
@@TheGoodLuc Oh, so Rhaneyra shouldn't be queen because her half-brother tried to kill her eldest son, but her youngest son prevented it by taking his eye out?
@@jpruedag Rhaenyra's... difficult. On the one hand I see no problem as long as a person is capable. On the other, Viserys went against "man the preferable gender for throne" custom, and Rhaenyra birthed bastards.
@@King_Mac80 so do most modern politicians. He provided a lot of stability and entertainment, was willing to forgive his enemies and it seemed like a decent reign.
@@alexturlais8558 most modern politicians do not put their country in debt, owing money and not being able to pay back money are two completely different things. Robert owed the Iron Bank millions and had to turn to his father in law for money.
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 The same happened after Viserys I's death with the war between Greens and Blacks but he was a good king. Doesn't matter if a king is good or bad after his death there will always be some conflict for the crown.
@@stefanozucchelli5410 Viserys told them who his heir was and they pettily didn't listen for one reason or another. the Dance came down to what was essentially sexism. but Robert was genuinely a bad husband and father, resulting in a bad heir and his wife getting too much power. it does matter alot of the time. no strong heir can mean chaos.
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 its obvious you didn't read the book well it wasn't just based on sexism just the lust for power Viserys bypassed the rule of succession by making his daughter his heir not knowing if he would ever have another child
Just a nerdy fyi: "Twin" siblings that contain one male and one female can never be genetically "identical". Identical twins come from one sperm and one egg that split into two separate individuals early on in the pregnancy and are always the same sex because of that. Fraternal twins are from two eggs, one egg each, so they are basically siblings that just happened to share their mother's womb at the same time. They are no more genetically identical than you and your older/younger brother/sister if you have one that you share the same two parents with. Not making ANY excuses for the Lannisters, but just some info if anyone is interested :) thanks for the great video!
@@fanelemabaso2514 I'm literally not, I'm just tired of people saying Jaime and Cersei are especially bad because they're twins when really they genetically aren't. This entire series revolves around incest, chill, I'm not defending it, just educating people if they even care. If not, cool.
Aegon Originally refused the crown, until his mother reminded him that his sister would reward him for his loyalty by removing his head. He was relatively sane after that until Sunfyre crashed in battle with Melys.
In fairness Alicent may have been projecting her hang ups onto Aegon as they had a terrible relationship. So it was less reminding and more implanting an idea
@@brigidmadden5577 that’s entirely possible but given what we know so far I don’t think there’s a scenario in which she keeps a possible male alternative to her reign alive
@@donvalladares6930 apparently he went into a battle early on…and burned half his damn face off. He was basically a shambling lump of flesh for the rest of the war
@@donvalladares6930 he flew on dragonback a couple times until Meleys crippled him for life. According to fire and blood, his armor was melted into the flesh of his right arm, and he was never strong enough to climb the steps of the iron throne after that.
You do realize that’s just the maester using propaganda right? In order to paint the new baratheon dynasty in a greater light, his reign of average at best.
I personally that Tywin was aware of an assassination attempt on Joffrey and did nothing to stop it. He was 13, only wore a crown for a year and he already saw Aerys in him. He starts a war with the North by killing his valuable hostage, starts a riot in KL (even firing arrows at beggars on the streets for target practice) and even wanted to execute the riverlords after they already yielded. Seeing that Tommen would be much easier to control, he just let the killers do their thing.
Im honestly surprised Joffrey wasnt lower. He only reigned for 2 years but managed to cause a civil war and divide the realm in that time (something it took Aegon IV 12 years to do). The only reason things under Joffrey werent an even bigger disaster than they already were for the realm was because Tywin was there as a babysitter. Without Tywin, he'd be a mix of Aerys II and Maegor
@Florys the Fox I disagree, if Robert actually engaged in the politics that he was shunning then Cersei would never have gotten away with passing abominations as his children and save the realm from a potential civil war. It was this truth that had his adopted father and Ned Stark, his best friend, killed. Robert's negligence is entirely responsible for the state of Westoros.
@D D he certainly wasn’t anywhere near great, but he wasn’t bad. He was functional or at least had functional help, and didn’t do anything outright evil or cruel apart from the baby murder
The only thing I'd disagree on is Robert being worse than Joffrey. Joffrey literally started a war for no reason. Sure the war would have happened with Stannis but the Northern rebellion could have been stopped among other things.
@@jakealter5504 Renly only had an army because of the Tyrels. The Tyrels wouldn't back him if the Kingdom was in peace instead of the chaos it had during the war of the 5 Kings.
I like the idea that you can tell how popular a king was by how often his name is used afterwards. This is very true of British monarchy: After Richard III, (twisted nephew murdering usurper) no more king Richards Henry, very popular name, until Henry VIII (six wives; divorced, beheaded, died, divorced beheaded, survived) then no more king Henry's George - very popular, have gone up to George VI, and, should Charles ever become king, he may rather be known as George VII rather than Charles III (considering what happened to Charles I). King John I - Only one King has ever had the name John in the whole of British monarchy, which tells you how popular King John was, and how bad a job he did.
Robert doesn’t deserve to be on this list. Robert knew his failings as a king and employed skilled, able people to counteract his shortcomings. He was also an inspirational and loved ruler, with great lords revering him and the smallfolk deifying him, he was the Great Stag, the Demon of the Trident, and he was the rightful king. His two failings at ruling: 1. Plunging the realm into debt, 2. Not knowing his children were incestuous bastards, Were not HIS fault. Littlefinger is a man who is nearly magical with his ability to summon coin, and Aerys left the coffers of the Red Keep overflowing. The issue isn’t Robert’s spending, it’s Littlefinger’s scheming and debt scandals. He invested the money to make himself personally richer and actively sought to sew chaos into the realm. This was known to NO ONE, and it isn’t Robert’s, but Littlefingers, to keep track of finances, especially in an economically and agriculturally prosperous and wealthy period. The bastards, you could argue, were a severe oversight. But, then again, that was an issue with his councillors. If Jon Arryn, Stannis Baratheon, or Ned Stark simply told Robert, the issue would be resolved. Gruesomely? Probably. But the issue wasn’t with Robert, but with his advisors. Under Robert Baratheon, there was over a decade of peace and plenty in the realm, and while he is nowhere near as diligent a king as Jaehaerys I, and definitely had severe and glaring shortcomings, he does not deserve to be put with the likes of Maegor and Aerys.
yes but those failings were disastrous. ruined all the short term gains he made when he took the throne. how exactly was it not his fault he was a shitty husband and father? thats most certainly his fault. he should have been able to see Cersei's evil and take steps to deal with it instead of shutting off his senses and mind to drink and whoring. people loved robert but for all the wrong reasons (him being friendly to fellow warriors and hunters, being a famous fighter and commander and conqueror, good looking in his youth). not for the actual reasons you should love a king. the "peace" you speak of? a powder keg just waiting for his death to explode everything into disaster. i do agree the WOFK is the fault of many other figures like Cersei and Baelish but Robert's flaws as a king, husband and father contributed as well.
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 even if King Robert had another wife then cersei. The result is still be the same disastrous the whole united kingdoms would fall the massive debts and littlefingers scams or corruption. Varys secret support. King robert is nothing but a man whose a soldier but he was too dumb as a politician. Your totally right robert still be a failure of both in king and husband to wife and father to his own children
@@Brandonhayhew Theres literally no evidence of that. Cersei is primarily to blame for their failed marriage since she never even tried. "My late husband loved the forest too." In the early years of their marriage, Robert was forever imploring her to hunt with him, but Cersei had always begged off. His hunting trips allowed her time with Jaime. Golden days and silver nights. If Robert had married someone normal, he wouldn’t have been murdered and he’d have normal kids. Cersei says that Robert tried to talk to his not son, Joffrey. If Robert had married Delena Florent and had Edric Baratheon as his heir, the civil war wouldn’t have happened.
Here's my question- WHAT SHOULD RHAENYRA HAVE DONE? I don't think she was wrong for fighting for the throne that was rightfully hers, although I do agree that her participation in the Dance of Dragons makes her just has responsible for the deaths of the common folk, and near-extinction of Dragons. #Blacks
@@bridgetbrennan6615 yer they really should have had the lords re take their vows to support her as the heir once agon 2 was born, vaseries dropped the ball there
Yeah. What kind of man and a king would Aegon II be when he was ready to disobey his fathers wishes and steal the crown from his sister while his fathers corpse was rotting in its bed. Yeah it takes two to really fight but you can get beaten to sh*t if you don't to fight back. In the story princess and queen, it was told that the first person to die in dance of the dragons was some lord who refused to support Aegon and got killed immediately. And it was mostly gathering allies and sending messages before Aemond, Aegon's younger brother, killed Rhaenyra's son when they went to negotiate with the same lord. I wouldn't bend the knee to a man who disobeyd his father, stole from his sister and whose actions led to your son, his nephew, being killed by his other uncle. I just recently read that short story "princess and the queen" (or smth I don't remember exact name) and boy do I have some feelings about it.
Also... Robert Baratheon was not a bad King. He married for the good of the realm, as Cersei Lannister was a great choice to keep the crown financially viable. Second, he understood that conquering was what he was good at, however ruling was not to his liking or skill set. So he gave most of the important decision making to Jon Aryn. Most shitty kings would not be willing to admit such a shortcoming. Think of how peaceful his reign was. Only one rebellion, that was crushed, and really had nothing to do with him. The Greyjoy’s would’ve rebelled anyways.
For real though. I’m trying to get away from politics and this moron has to shove his stupid opinion in here for no reason. Trump wasn’t even that bad, he was actually pretty good. I thought maybe people would’ve realized that by now, but I guess the liberal propaganda is too strong.
That’s not quite true- there was a single namesake for each, Aenys & Maegor; before Aegon V acceded to the throne, there was debate over if someone ‘raised half-a-peasant’ as the lords derisively claimed ‘Egg’ was- serving as the squire of a hedge knight, should become king - & this was when Maester Aemon was quietly offered but refused the throne, & around the same time, a Blackfyre claimant named Aenys put himself forward- hoping to claim by peaceful means, what his forebears hadn’t in war. And Aemon & Aegon V had a hated brother Aerion (definitely one the most psychotic of the Targs) who named his child Maegor. When there was a succession crisis, young Maegor was briefly considered but just as quickly dismissed- because they feared, he could inherit his father’s madness (& also his youth would have meant a long regency)...
Also I think you might have been a little bit too harsh to good ol' Bobby B. Sure, he may not have been the best fit to rule, but the realm was largely peaceful under his rule, or at least John Arryn's rule. There was the ironborn rebellion, but I mean, that wasn't so much to do with Robert's rule as it was with the ironborn being the ironborn.
I always feel sorry for Aenys. P.S. It's strange that there aren't that many Targaryens called "Jaeherys". P.P.S. Robert looks like a LOTR dwarf in the little image used of him 🧔
@@made-line7627 Spooler space There was Prince Jaehaerys , son of Aegon II and Haelena Targaryen (died), another Prince Jaehareys who died (Rheagar 's younger brother) as a child.
My boy Big Bobby B was not a bad king. Not a good king perhaps, but the realm was at peace. Granted noone had the massive balls necessary to raise up against BBB🐗👑
Aegon the Second was a Terrible King without a doubt and Rhaenrya wasn’t much better so the Realm would have been better served had one one of them Rhaenrya in particular died before Viserys did. 3:55
Rhaenyra is not considered by history and people of Westeros as queen, as her brother was crowned and assume the throne first, he is considered to rein during The Dance, at the end was still alive when she died, Aegon made sure that she was no more than a pretender, to commoners, septons and most important maesters. The true heir historywise to Viserys I Targaryen, is Aegon II Targaryen his first trueborn son.
Aenys is just Edward ii 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ Maegor was a monster, but he saved their dynasty from being just a bad memory. The red keep thing was kinda understandable, the faith murdered on of their best septon healers just for associating with the Targs. Imagine they would do to the common folks who built their fortress. They would have certainly tortured and killed him and his kin
Yeah I think Maegor gets a worse rep than he deserves. He's a terrible person, but accomplished a lot and was a necessary evil to dig Westeros out of the hole Aenys put them in.
@@domskillet5744 I think being a competent monster doesn't makes you less of a monster. Euron Greyjoy is fairly competent in everything he does, but I think nobody denies him being pure evil.
@@shizachan8421 Yes, but we aren't ranking based solely on personality or intention. It's based on a combination of factors, including personality, effectiveness as a ruler, impact on the dynasty, and impact on the common people. Without a ruler that inspired absolute fear from everyone in the kingdoms following Aenys, the Targaryan dynasty stood no chance. Aenys almost singlehandedly destroyed the dynasty, which would've sent the country into chaos and destroyed stability for the common people, and Maegor's ruthlessness was the only thing that kept the Targaryans in power, which in turn brings some stability into the realm. Of course, they still may have been overthrown a decade later if anyone other than Jaeherys became king, but Maegor saved the dynasty from utter annihilation during his time as king. When ranking the "best" and "worst" rulers, that has to count a good deal.
Robert shouldn’t be on the list. Your way too harsh on him. The numbers don’t really add up. Yeah he had tourneys but the ones we’re told about doesn’t seem like it’s 10 a year. He only seems to do it on his eldest sons name day. Even if it was all his children and were as extravagant as Ned’s was, you don’t get even half of the 6,000,000 gold dragons. Petyr is definitely fudging the numbers.
Here's an Idea, make a video of some of the bestest baddest knights and fighters the WOIAF has ever had. If you don't include Ryam Redwine I will curse you.
Do you mean baddest like "Badass" or baddest like "bad"? Cause if it's the former. I say Barristan Selmy, Arthur Dayne, Duncan the Tall and Aemon the Dragon Knight definitely deserve a spot on that list.
Daeron I should be one of the worst too tho he will be the least worst His conquest on Dorne caused a lot of deaths just for his ambition and lust for conquest.
@@simbol5638 well it wasn’t like it wasn’t unjustified, House Martell broke the truce they made with Aegon the conqueror when they straight up attempted to invade the stormlands and destroy all there castles and slaughter their people, but they were easily destroyed and repelled by Jaehaerys the first and his sons, the Martells are serpents and even though daeron was an arrogant kid if he were allowed to grow up he probably would’ve been a great king as stated in a world of ice and fire, honestly the Martells and Targaryens did the same thing as they were all foreign invaders who conquered the realms and adopted their traditions.
All of the Robert simps in the comments fail to realize that all the good that came during his reign was due to Jon Arryn and not robert, he couldnt even be bothered to attend but 3 small council meetings in 17 years
@@JayCity10 yeah he hit his wife, cheated on her, drank and whored constantly, bankrupted the realm with his massive spending was neglectful of his "children", hated his brother, ordered the death of children, never punished anyone for horrendous acts, never ruled and let other people do the work, ignornant of his wife, and allowed corruption to fester. What an awesome king.
@@theautomator8372 I loved how you zoned into the wife aspect. The wife being Cersei, who was one of the most horrid creatures ever in Westoros. With respect to his siblings, it happens. You can fall out of favor with them. He chose another brother in Ned, who was a good and capable person. I'm not saying Stannis or Renly wasn't. He also chose a competent hand in John Arynn before Ned. Let's he honest here, the king can't rule and do everything. Which is why he had a stable small council to handle important matters. He lived the ladies and the wine. I can't hold that agasont him. He lived the life of a king after all.
“It’s not like a bunch of civilians can do anything against a bunch of dragons anyway”. I guarantee you that’s NOT what Rhaenyra said. Gotta love when people throw in their personal feelings and end up wrong lol
Wait Baelor the "blessed" didn't made into this list? 0o Also, useless idea, but it would be pretty neat to see a Florian Geyer kind of character in Westeros... 🤔
"Just got the job done and then croak." Sounds like a good ass king in my book. The phrase "may you live in interesting times" is a curse, not a blessing
If you were to rank the worst US President, I would strongly rank Woodrow Wilson as the worst. He started the Cold War with a hot one by mismanaging the Russian Intervention (1918-1920), he brought Jim Crow to the Federal Government, he gave rise to the 2nd KKK, he started domestic surveillance at its worst, he invaded Latin America for funsies, he instigated a wartime prohibition, despite fighting against the Prohibition movement, he established the Federal Reserve (it's terrible in practice), he perverted liberalism, and I think I could go on, but you get the idea.
Some kings in this story are monstrous. Rob just fucked. Getting your end away isnt the same as killing the men that built your castle or cutting your wifes heart out. That being said, great video as always
I would put balon in that list,the guy was a fanatic who was planning in pushing the north and the islands to the seven. Also Robert didnt bankruppt the realm,Littlefinger did,Robert shouldnt be in that list,he reigned over a 16 year long reign with just one major war that was localized in a single region and ended fairly quickly,daeron should take his place since he caused the death of 50000 people at least by conquering dorne and failing to hold it
9:17 I wouldn’t describe Aerys I as a decent king. His uncle Bloodraven did all the ruling for him, unless you’re implying that a passive king is a decent king, which sadly King Aenys classifies as
I do disagree with your jab at Trump, as it's not accurate when describing his presidency, nor character as a person, more so an app description of Obama or Bush. and mostly what a potential Bernie v Hillary presidential race would have looked like...just you know... fewer dragons lol. Nonetheless, I'm not trying to talk politics, just say I agree with your decision to put Robert as one of the worst kings. I think people just get so hung up on how he was characterized in mediums like the show that they forget just how bad he actually was.
I apologize for my comment yesterday. I love ASOIAF, I usually look into it to forget about the madness of the real world. Thank you for all your had work. I wish you the best in your work.
@@JayCity10 oouuu the toxic alpha male approach. Must say I'm not impressed. It's funny because those types of individuals usually have limited education and care about compensating for their "lack of manhood"
Yeah , I think the same, Aenys allowed too much chaos to spread throughout the realm, (although he did questionable things like the zillion wives and killing the constructors of the red keep) but he did what had to be done to avoid further wars, he walked so Jahaerys could run
@@Gnossiene369 You did not get the point. I never said people want an escape because they're miserable it's because the video is based on a "fantasy novel" so unless Trump was once a king in Westeros I don't see the point of putting him in really.
Yea because it's not like the events or people in ASOIAF arent based off of real people.....man how could he do such a terrible terrible thing. * he says with maximum sarcasm*
Robert weren't good but not the worst. After season 8, we really should've listened Aerys II was the mad, but he wasn't the worst and that was only because Tywin was around
Was the picture of trump in front of you saying narcissistic and unempathetic really necessary for this video I’m not that big of a fan of trump but common I don’t like this needless modern politics thrown in
Since I sped through the Mad King's reign ► ruclips.net/video/hwR2YED0GlI/видео.html
Best King's List!!! Please make that bro, you do a great job!
Imagine Trump-bashing on a video about a fantasy story. That’s honestly pathetic.
From your phrasing, I feel like you are team Greens in the wars to come on House of the Dragon. Is this mostly true?
@@TheAurelianProject Sweet summer child, the author uses real events, characterizations, etc for his inspirations. It’s actually pathetic that you don’t see how spot on this Drumph reference truly is.
@@shannond7437 uh huh, how are you liking the new wars, failing economy, skyrocketing inflation, prices, national debt, rapidly increasing government oversight, and outright treachery by our own politicians?
Joffery would've been worse than Aerys II, feels like the only reason he's placed lower is only because he happened to die before he got worse but he always had potential to be crueler than Aerys II. At least one of them wasn't born crazy since Aerys II slowly descended into madness while Joffery showed signs of a psychopath from the start.
He could've been a mix of Aerys II and Maegor "The Cruel" if he grew up and ruled Westeros without Tywin as a babysitter. He might've ended up like the real life King Edward II of England or Richard II of England or Charles I of England and Scotland. At that point, the entire continent would've risen up against Joffrey and The Lannister-Tyrell Alliance.
@@gfilmer7150 he would me nothing like Margot who's cruelty was necessity to keep his family in control Joffrey is cruel for cruelty sake
@@durrangodsgrief6503 Still a tyrant who looses everything by going too far
I agree. Had Joffrey lived, he would have been much crueler, considering he was 🔪 pregnant cats open to see if there were really kittens in there.
@@sudanemamimikiki1527 13:38
Joffrey isn’t just born to twins he’s born to twins with cousin parents
And if he's any more inbred he'd be a sandwich
The fact that his parents are twins is irrelevant, it wouldn't be any different if they were siblings
@@TK-wk6xd 🤨🤔😏😆
@Geoffrey Wakeley no it isn't, genetically two heterozygote twins are identical to normal sibling, it would be different if they were homozygous (identical twins), but then they would be the same sex, so they could never have children together.. so genetically there is no difference if they are twins or normal siblings
@Geoffrey Wakeley really? I never heard of something like that.. I don't understand how that could happen, as monozygotic twins share 100% of the DNA, which include the xy xx chromosome pair which determines sex at birth.. i could be wrong tho i am not a biologist.. so yea if you had to monozygotic twins with different sexes then yea it would be worst if they had a kid, but for any normal twin, it wold be identical to a normal sibling (on average)..
"Just got the job done and croaked."
I want that on my tombstone. 😂
Me too😂
My life story
Funny thing is is that Robert was the best king in the whole of the shows run.
Jon Snow*
@GOD i choked ! Good one !
Mance was a great king, it should count
@@dmurphy915 you mean Rhaegar
Ha ha , so true
From seeing him in the show, Robert Baratheon just came across as tragic and stuck in the past. His dialogue always had mention of times gone, the good ol' days. Past battles, growing up in the Eyrie with Ned and Jon Arryn, his many sexual conquests, and Lyana Stark. He never focused on what was happening around him, and the only current event he paid any attention to was Daenerys's status due to his hatred for the Targaryens after Rhaegar's deeds. Additionally, Robert was a great warrior, but what's the warrior to do when there's no more battles to be fought? A great warrior, a good friend, in different circumstances, perhaps a better husband and father, but he could never let go of the past.
Robert was like that guy who peaks in high school as the popular quarterback that wins the state championship, but never amounts to more than that. So he's stuck in the past wanting to relive his greatest hits instead of moving forward.
U should do best or worst hands of the king, or most influential people from the small councill
The Hightower hand of king Viserys would probably be number 1
The best would be king jaeharys imo other than aegon the conquer. But aegon didn't really do anything but unite the seven kingdoms which does create peace after killing all the trouble makers but damn what a steep price when you think about it.
But jaeharys and aegon before aerys were my top 2 best Kings of westeros.
@@constantine9142 he's talking about the hand of the kings
@@bakthihapuarachchi3447 oh crap my bad! Lol
Well that's way harder and complicated but I'm sure one day that Martin will give a detailed list of everyone with rumors. Lol
@@constantine9142 no problem dude lol
My heart goes out to Aenys. He was a great man who could never bring himself to be a great king.
Even got compared to prince Andrew. Which didnt aged too well 👀
His name was holding him back.
@@bluevioletandlilac They hate us cause they Aenys.
I actually think Viserys I was the one most at blame for the dance with dragons
He himself was “elected” king by a decision that completely invalidated feminine lines in succession. He knew having Rhaenyra as heir would cause a war and yet did nothing to prevent it
Especially in the show. How about Aemond's eye, e.g.?
It’s not his fault that he got elected king.
Nah.
@@TheGoodLuc Oh, so Rhaneyra shouldn't be queen because her half-brother tried to kill her eldest son, but her youngest son prevented it by taking his eye out?
@@jpruedag Rhaenyra's... difficult. On the one hand I see no problem as long as a person is capable. On the other, Viserys went against "man the preferable gender for throne" custom, and Rhaenyra birthed bastards.
I always think of King Aerys as this old ass dude, but no he was 40! That's nutty actually
i think he just looked older because he was crazy. long wild silver hair which looks white. long messy beard. long nails
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 that's: the whole point
He aged very fast in short time his twenty he was peaceful but then went insane out of no where
@@KOCChristian yes, I know, that's part of the point I was trying to make, and he says it right in the video
Look man Robert was not a bad king at least in the eyes of the smallfolk just because he slept around doesn't make him a bad King.
He did put the crown in debt
@@King_Mac80 that still doesnt make him a bad king. His reign was that of peace and prosperity. Smallfolk were at peace.
@@King_Mac80 so do most modern politicians. He provided a lot of stability and entertainment, was willing to forgive his enemies and it seemed like a decent reign.
@@King_Mac80 that was littlefinger
@@alexturlais8558 most modern politicians do not put their country in debt, owing money and not being able to pay back money are two completely different things. Robert owed the Iron Bank millions and had to turn to his father in law for money.
looking forward to the best kings
Jaehaerys
Hard to beat King James, with his 4 NBA championships, 4 Finals MVP titles, and 4 NBA MVP titles.
Jaeherys surely
@@AstroSully he's the conciliator right and Aegon V "The Unlikely" (or was it the Vi? I forget)
@@alessandrograssi9310 jaeherys would certainly be number one how would you list the best kings?
Robert is always portrayed as a bad king but his reign was actually really peaceful and relatively prosper
That would have been Jon Arryn's doing, Robert only ever attended 3 small council meetings in 17 years
@@SantomPh based
@@SantomPh yeah, he was smart enough to let more competent people rule for him. More than what could be said about a lot of other kings.
@@SantomPh You mean like Aegon I?
King is as good as the realm after his death. It's his notgivingashit attitude that is directly responsible for the WOF5K
Robert was far from being among the worst kings
perhaps not but his failings as a king created a gigantic civil war the moment he died. it seemed peaceful but it was a powder keg waiting to go off
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 The same happened after Viserys I's death with the war between Greens and Blacks but he was a good king.
Doesn't matter if a king is good or bad after his death there will always be some conflict for the crown.
@@stefanozucchelli5410 Viserys told them who his heir was and they pettily didn't listen for one reason or another. the Dance came down to what was essentially sexism. but Robert was genuinely a bad husband and father, resulting in a bad heir and his wife getting too much power. it does matter alot of the time. no strong heir can mean chaos.
Bad king doesn't necessarily mean cruel or mad king
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 its obvious you didn't read the book well it wasn't just based on sexism just the lust for power Viserys bypassed the rule of succession by making his daughter his heir not knowing if he would ever have another child
Maegor the Cruel was a Tyrant but one could argue he was what House Targaryen needed at the time to save his Family from a Religious Rebellion. 2:10
Just a nerdy fyi:
"Twin" siblings that contain one male and one female can never be genetically "identical". Identical twins come from one sperm and one egg that split into two separate individuals early on in the pregnancy and are always the same sex because of that. Fraternal twins are from two eggs, one egg each, so they are basically siblings that just happened to share their mother's womb at the same time. They are no more genetically identical than you and your older/younger brother/sister if you have one that you share the same two parents with. Not making ANY excuses for the Lannisters, but just some info if anyone is interested :) thanks for the great video!
Why are you defending incest
@@fanelemabaso2514 I'm literally not, I'm just tired of people saying Jaime and Cersei are especially bad because they're twins when really they genetically aren't. This entire series revolves around incest, chill, I'm not defending it, just educating people if they even care. If not, cool.
@@fanelemabaso2514 how is that your take away?
@@ice-eyes their reffred to as twins in story. In a modern sense they might not be, but that's not particularly relevant.
@fightingmedialounge519 very true and good point, just a factoid for fellow dorks like myself 🤓
Aegon Originally refused the crown, until his mother reminded him that his sister would reward him for his loyalty by removing his head.
He was relatively sane after that until Sunfyre crashed in battle with Melys.
In fairness Alicent may have been projecting her hang ups onto Aegon as they had a terrible relationship. So it was less reminding and more implanting an idea
@@brigidmadden5577 that’s entirely possible but given what we know so far I don’t think there’s a scenario in which she keeps a possible male alternative to her reign alive
Did Aegon go into battle or did hide in the castle
@@donvalladares6930 apparently he went into a battle early on…and burned half his damn face off. He was basically a shambling lump of flesh for the rest of the war
@@donvalladares6930 he flew on dragonback a couple times until Meleys crippled him for life. According to fire and blood, his armor was melted into the flesh of his right arm, and he was never strong enough to climb the steps of the iron throne after that.
Roberts 15 year reign is considered golden age of realm
I would say that robert was very average king with great hand sometimes hand is more important
the realm was in major debt. also you may say that but it was all set up to collapse into total chaos the second he died.
You do realize that’s just the maester using propaganda right? In order to paint the new baratheon dynasty in a greater light, his reign of average at best.
I personally that Tywin was aware of an assassination attempt on Joffrey and did nothing to stop it.
He was 13, only wore a crown for a year and he already saw Aerys in him. He starts a war with the North by killing his valuable hostage, starts a riot in KL (even firing arrows at beggars on the streets for target practice) and even wanted to execute the riverlords after they already yielded.
Seeing that Tommen would be much easier to control, he just let the killers do their thing.
Im honestly surprised Joffrey wasnt lower. He only reigned for 2 years but managed to cause a civil war and divide the realm in that time (something it took Aegon IV 12 years to do).
The only reason things under Joffrey werent an even bigger disaster than they already were for the realm was because Tywin was there as a babysitter. Without Tywin, he'd be a mix of Aerys II and Maegor
Meh, it took Aegon II around a few days for the dance of the dragons to start
Tbf he didn't really cause the civil war, that was Ned calling his legitimacy into question in the method most likely to start a war
@@jakealter5504 Aegon calling himself king was a declaration of war my guy
@@redtube8667 true but hostilities didn’t truly break out until lucerys was killed by Aemond
@@jakealter5504 that also wasn't on Aegon though, that was a pissed off Aemond doing whatever he wanted
Honestly speaking, Robert Baratheon wasn't a worst king
@Florys the Fox I disagree, if Robert actually engaged in the politics that he was shunning then Cersei would never have gotten away with passing abominations as his children and save the realm from a potential civil war. It was this truth that had his adopted father and Ned Stark, his best friend, killed. Robert's negligence is entirely responsible for the state of Westoros.
@@denisdiderot6779 No. Cerseis responsible for that. If he’d married almost anyone else he’d have lived longer and had trueborn children.
@@denisdiderot6779 Cersei would cheat on Robert anyway
@D D he certainly wasn’t anywhere near great, but he wasn’t bad. He was functional or at least had functional help, and didn’t do anything outright evil or cruel apart from the baby murder
But his neglect lead to the the "current" events
The only thing I'd disagree on is Robert being worse than Joffrey. Joffrey literally started a war for no reason. Sure the war would have happened with Stannis but the Northern rebellion could have been stopped among other things.
If Joffrey wasn't a maniac the war wouldn't have happened at all. Stannis only wanted the throne because he wanted what was best for the kingdom
@@OK-yy6qz he still would’ve had to fight Renly
@@jakealter5504 Renly only had an army because of the Tyrels. The Tyrels wouldn't back him if the Kingdom was in peace instead of the chaos it had during the war of the 5 Kings.
@@OK-yy6qz true
Careful with HOTD spoilers 3:55 to 6:45
your ASOIAF content is so good, thanks for so many uploads!!
I like the idea that you can tell how popular a king was by how often his name is used afterwards. This is very true of British monarchy:
After Richard III, (twisted nephew murdering usurper) no more king Richards
Henry, very popular name, until Henry VIII (six wives; divorced, beheaded, died, divorced beheaded, survived) then no more king Henry's
George - very popular, have gone up to George VI, and, should Charles ever become king, he may rather be known as George VII rather than Charles III (considering what happened to Charles I).
King John I - Only one King has ever had the name John in the whole of British monarchy, which tells you how popular King John was, and how bad a job he did.
And the name William stopped being used for nearly 700 years.
Robert doesn’t deserve to be on this list. Robert knew his failings as a king and employed skilled, able people to counteract his shortcomings. He was also an inspirational and loved ruler, with great lords revering him and the smallfolk deifying him, he was the Great Stag, the Demon of the Trident, and he was the rightful king.
His two failings at ruling:
1. Plunging the realm into debt,
2. Not knowing his children were incestuous bastards,
Were not HIS fault. Littlefinger is a man who is nearly magical with his ability to summon coin, and Aerys left the coffers of the Red Keep overflowing. The issue isn’t Robert’s spending, it’s Littlefinger’s scheming and debt scandals. He invested the money to make himself personally richer and actively sought to sew chaos into the realm. This was known to NO ONE, and it isn’t Robert’s, but Littlefingers, to keep track of finances, especially in an economically and agriculturally prosperous and wealthy period.
The bastards, you could argue, were a severe oversight. But, then again, that was an issue with his councillors. If Jon Arryn, Stannis Baratheon, or Ned Stark simply told Robert, the issue would be resolved. Gruesomely? Probably. But the issue wasn’t with Robert, but with his advisors.
Under Robert Baratheon, there was over a decade of peace and plenty in the realm, and while he is nowhere near as diligent a king as Jaehaerys I, and definitely had severe and glaring shortcomings, he does not deserve to be put with the likes of Maegor and Aerys.
yes but those failings were disastrous. ruined all the short term gains he made when he took the throne.
how exactly was it not his fault he was a shitty husband and father? thats most certainly his fault. he should have been able to see Cersei's evil and take steps to deal with it instead of shutting off his senses and mind to drink and whoring.
people loved robert but for all the wrong reasons (him being friendly to fellow warriors and hunters, being a famous fighter and commander and conqueror, good looking in his youth). not for the actual reasons you should love a king.
the "peace" you speak of? a powder keg just waiting for his death to explode everything into disaster. i do agree the WOFK is the fault of many other figures like Cersei and Baelish but Robert's flaws as a king, husband and father contributed as well.
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 even if King Robert had another wife then cersei. The result is still be the same disastrous the whole united kingdoms would fall the massive debts and littlefingers scams or corruption. Varys secret support. King robert is nothing but a man whose a soldier but he was too dumb as a politician. Your totally right robert still be a failure of both in king and husband to wife and father to his own children
@@Brandonhayhew Theres literally no evidence of that. Cersei is primarily to blame for their failed marriage since she never even tried.
"My late husband loved the forest too." In the early years of their marriage, Robert was forever imploring her to hunt with him, but Cersei had always begged off. His hunting trips allowed her time with Jaime. Golden days and silver nights.
If Robert had married someone normal, he wouldn’t have been murdered and he’d have normal kids. Cersei says that Robert tried to talk to his not son, Joffrey. If Robert had married Delena Florent and had Edric Baratheon as his heir, the civil war wouldn’t have happened.
@@MusaMansu still in debts I forgot how much money does Robert owe to the bank and the faith. Tywin he owes 50% of the debts
@@MusaMansu Robert still cheat but good thing he still has a heir son edric at least.
Who else thinks he should make a video about
Best hands of the king??
Definitely.
and the worst hands of the king
Septon Barth is the best
Here's my question- WHAT SHOULD RHAENYRA HAVE DONE?
I don't think she was wrong for fighting for the throne that was rightfully hers, although I do agree that her participation in the Dance of Dragons makes her just has responsible for the deaths of the common folk, and near-extinction of Dragons.
#Blacks
Agreeeeeed
She was justified. I mean, she was the NAMED heir. A lot could have been avoided had Aegon allowed her to take the throne.
@@bridgetbrennan6615 yer they really should have had the lords re take their vows to support her as the heir once agon 2 was born, vaseries dropped the ball there
This is the same dumbass that called maegor a psycho for killing the people in the sept when they starting get weapons to rebel
Yeah. What kind of man and a king would Aegon II be when he was ready to disobey his fathers wishes and steal the crown from his sister while his fathers corpse was rotting in its bed. Yeah it takes two to really fight but you can get beaten to sh*t if you don't to fight back. In the story princess and queen, it was told that the first person to die in dance of the dragons was some lord who refused to support Aegon and got killed immediately. And it was mostly gathering allies and sending messages before Aemond, Aegon's younger brother, killed Rhaenyra's son when they went to negotiate with the same lord. I wouldn't bend the knee to a man who disobeyd his father, stole from his sister and whose actions led to your son, his nephew, being killed by his other uncle. I just recently read that short story "princess and the queen" (or smth I don't remember exact name) and boy do I have some feelings about it.
Kinda missing Baelor the Blessed on this list. Dude locked his sisters up for years
How does that make him a bad king?
true he was a psychopath seems like . he was so into religion that he died fasting for the Seven
But he was awesome tho other than the fasting and locking his sisters up
@aaron guest I know but the lengths he would go to to help people is why I like him
@aaron guest yeah he was
I love your videos
I love your videos, only thing keeping me alive from this online school life
Maegor kinda reminds me of Ivan the terrible. A king whose mind was savy enough to know what should have been done but too ruthless to be subtle
Maegor was based on Ivan the Terrible
Also... Robert Baratheon was not a bad King.
He married for the good of the realm, as Cersei Lannister was a great choice to keep the crown financially viable.
Second, he understood that conquering was what he was good at, however ruling was not to his liking or skill set. So he gave most of the important decision making to Jon Aryn. Most shitty kings would not be willing to admit such a shortcoming.
Think of how peaceful his reign was. Only one rebellion, that was crushed, and really had nothing to do with him. The Greyjoy’s would’ve rebelled anyways.
He literally bankrupted the realm so that he could have lavish feasts and tourneys, so maybe not?
@@elisawilde8623 still better than most of those Lizard king's
@@Insider887he was also better than Aegon II
Robert knew he was an incompetent king, and he let everything to Arryn, that tells me that he was not a bad king,he just didn't give a fuck hahahaha
so horrible
Not giving a fuck makes you a bad king
Aegon made and kneaded the dough, Aenys did nothing, Maegor baked the bread and Jaehaerys ate it.
uh oh, I saw donald trump. This comment section bouta be political
I mean yeah, why the f he would bring up the politics of real world, that's so foolish
Where 🤔
That’s what brought me to the comment section 🐸 ☕️
@@larrywave 6:10
very bad move. Expected him to be a little more mature...
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Orange man bad hahaha...
So necessary in a GoT video 🤦🏼♂️ 🤦🏼♂️ 🤦🏼♂️
Yup
For real though. I’m trying to get away from politics and this moron has to shove his stupid opinion in here for no reason. Trump wasn’t even that bad, he was actually pretty good. I thought maybe people would’ve realized that by now, but I guess the liberal propaganda is too strong.
That’s not quite true- there was a single namesake for each, Aenys & Maegor; before Aegon V acceded to the throne, there was debate over if someone ‘raised half-a-peasant’ as the lords derisively claimed ‘Egg’ was- serving as the squire of a hedge knight, should become king - & this was when Maester Aemon was quietly offered but refused the throne, & around the same time, a Blackfyre claimant named Aenys put himself forward- hoping to claim by peaceful means, what his forebears hadn’t in war.
And Aemon & Aegon V had a hated brother Aerion (definitely one the most psychotic of the Targs) who named his child Maegor.
When there was a succession crisis, young Maegor was briefly considered but just as quickly dismissed- because they feared, he could inherit his father’s madness (& also his youth would have meant a long regency)...
best GoT content on this channel ! kudos
yup
Also I think you might have been a little bit too harsh to good ol' Bobby B. Sure, he may not have been the best fit to rule, but the realm was largely peaceful under his rule, or at least John Arryn's rule. There was the ironborn rebellion, but I mean, that wasn't so much to do with Robert's rule as it was with the ironborn being the ironborn.
Robbert Baratheon was to me one of the less Vicous Bad Kings but still pretty bad because he didn’t know what he was doing. 10:43
I always feel sorry for Aenys.
P.S. It's strange that there aren't that many Targaryens called "Jaeherys".
P.P.S. Robert looks like a LOTR dwarf in the little image used of him 🧔
There were a LOT of Jaeherys's that never became king. Only 2 survived to ascend the throne.
@@ineednochannelyoutube2651 Ah, ok. I can't even remember more than two, total (not just crowned). Who were they?
@@made-line7627
Spooler space
There was Prince Jaehaerys , son of Aegon II and Haelena Targaryen (died), another Prince Jaehareys who died (Rheagar 's younger brother) as a child.
@@SantomPh Good point! Still, only two?!
@@made-line7627 there’s Jaehaerys II
Loved this think you should do one about all the kings of the north
Why did you put a picture of Donald trump up
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because donald trump doesnt care about the common man.
@@chipkolat4055 got any evidence of that
@@chipkolat4055 Donald is Jesus
Aerys: Mentally insanity
Robert Baratheon: Economically crippling debt.
What else is there I should know?
U are the best bro, your videos are so informative
I have become such a big fan of this channel.
U are not alone my friend
@@bemnet7149 I agree
My boy Big Bobby B was not a bad king. Not a good king perhaps, but the realm was at peace. Granted noone had the massive balls necessary to raise up against BBB🐗👑
The Iron Island did rebel and they easily got smack beside them it was most peacetime
@@KOCChristian always forget how retarded the iron born are lol
Crown was in massive debt and he left the kingdom with a fucking powder keg
Aegon the Second was a Terrible King without a doubt and Rhaenrya wasn’t much better so the Realm would have been better served had one one of them Rhaenrya in particular died before Viserys did. 3:55
Rhaenyra is not considered by history and people of Westeros as queen, as her brother was crowned and assume the throne first, he is considered to rein during The Dance, at the end was still alive when she died, Aegon made sure that she was no more than a pretender, to commoners, septons and most important maesters. The true heir historywise to Viserys I Targaryen, is Aegon II Targaryen his first trueborn son.
Viserys never changed who he had declared his heir and Aegon II usurped that heir
I suppose that’s the only good thing Aegon the Second and Rhaenrya did for Westeros cause the Extinction of the Dragons. 5:54
Aenys is just Edward ii 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ Maegor was a monster, but he saved their dynasty from being just a bad memory. The red keep thing was kinda understandable, the faith murdered on of their best septon healers just for associating with the Targs. Imagine they would do to the common folks who built their fortress. They would have certainly tortured and killed him and his kin
Yeah I think Maegor gets a worse rep than he deserves. He's a terrible person, but accomplished a lot and was a necessary evil to dig Westeros out of the hole Aenys put them in.
@@domskillet5744 I think being a competent monster doesn't makes you less of a monster. Euron Greyjoy is fairly competent in everything he does, but I think nobody denies him being pure evil.
@@shizachan8421 Yes, but we aren't ranking based solely on personality or intention. It's based on a combination of factors, including personality, effectiveness as a ruler, impact on the dynasty, and impact on the common people.
Without a ruler that inspired absolute fear from everyone in the kingdoms following Aenys, the Targaryan dynasty stood no chance. Aenys almost singlehandedly destroyed the dynasty, which would've sent the country into chaos and destroyed stability for the common people, and Maegor's ruthlessness was the only thing that kept the Targaryans in power, which in turn brings some stability into the realm. Of course, they still may have been overthrown a decade later if anyone other than Jaeherys became king, but Maegor saved the dynasty from utter annihilation during his time as king. When ranking the "best" and "worst" rulers, that has to count a good deal.
Aegon the Unworthy was the Second worst Targaryen King to ever sit on the Iron Throne. 6:29
A big reason Daeron II was such a good ruler was because his father gave him a perfect model of what NOT to do.
Really had to throw trump in there? I watch these videos to get away from the real world and the media’s bs
Trump is a nonce, and so are the you.
Robert shouldn’t be on the list. Your way too harsh on him. The numbers don’t really add up. Yeah he had tourneys but the ones we’re told about doesn’t seem like it’s 10 a year. He only seems to do it on his eldest sons name day. Even if it was all his children and were as extravagant as Ned’s was, you don’t get even half of the 6,000,000 gold dragons. Petyr is definitely fudging the numbers.
no he is one of the worst
@@thetalesofelbek7042 nah.
Here's an Idea, make a video of some of the bestest baddest knights and fighters the WOIAF has ever had.
If you don't include Ryam Redwine I will curse you.
I second that
Cregan Stark gets my vote
Do you mean baddest like "Badass" or baddest like "bad"?
Cause if it's the former. I say Barristan Selmy, Arthur Dayne, Duncan the Tall and Aemon the Dragon Knight definitely deserve a spot on that list.
Artos Stark.
@@philippeblais8594 as would Jaime
Daeron I should be one of the worst too tho he will be the least worst
His conquest on Dorne caused a lot of deaths just for his ambition and lust for conquest.
I was expecting him to be on the list too.
@@simbol5638 well it wasn’t like it wasn’t unjustified, House Martell broke the truce they made with Aegon the conqueror when they straight up attempted to invade the stormlands and destroy all there castles and slaughter their people, but they were easily destroyed and repelled by Jaehaerys the first and his sons, the Martells are serpents and even though daeron was an arrogant kid if he were allowed to grow up he probably would’ve been a great king as stated in a world of ice and fire, honestly the Martells and Targaryens did the same thing as they were all foreign invaders who conquered the realms and adopted their traditions.
All of the Robert simps in the comments fail to realize that all the good that came during his reign was due to Jon Arryn and not robert, he couldnt even be bothered to attend but 3 small council meetings in 17 years
I resent the fact that Robby B is on this list lol
He's an idiot for mentioning Presendent Trump, much less Robert Baretheon. He was an awesome king.
@@JayCity10 yeah he hit his wife, cheated on her, drank and whored constantly, bankrupted the realm with his massive spending was neglectful of his "children", hated his brother, ordered the death of children, never punished anyone for horrendous acts, never ruled and let other people do the work, ignornant of his wife, and allowed corruption to fester.
What an awesome king.
@@theautomator8372 I loved how you zoned into the wife aspect. The wife being Cersei, who was one of the most horrid creatures ever in Westoros. With respect to his siblings, it happens. You can fall out of favor with them. He chose another brother in Ned, who was a good and capable person. I'm not saying Stannis or Renly wasn't. He also chose a competent hand in John Arynn before Ned. Let's he honest here, the king can't rule and do everything. Which is why he had a stable small council to handle important matters. He lived the ladies and the wine. I can't hold that agasont him. He lived the life of a king after all.
@@JayCity10 you ignored several point but what you said was true. He was far from the best but better then the worst.
@@theautomator8372 oh no, he hit Cersei 😱
Great video! Love the examination of power and corruption.
I loved the video man ! It’s always amazing to get some content from you. Looking forward for the best kings. It’s gonna way more challenging!
“It’s not like a bunch of civilians can do anything against a bunch of dragons anyway”. I guarantee you that’s NOT what Rhaenyra said. Gotta love when people throw in their personal feelings and end up wrong lol
Rhaenyra definitely believed that, until the people revolted and proved her wrong physically.
Bro you’re really gonna get political with this video? I watch your stuff to get away from that not have someone bring it up every turn
He brought it up once and it was just an image and he didn't even eknowledge it. Calm yourself
@@theautomator8372 I am calm. I could’ve cursed or even worse unsubb. Worry about yourself before you worry about someone else
Who threw more feasts, Robert baratheon or King harlaus?
Wait Baelor the "blessed" didn't made into this list? 0o
Also, useless idea, but it would be pretty neat to see a Florian Geyer kind of character in Westeros... 🤔
Aerys was without a doubt the Worst he’s like the Opposite of Aegon the Conqueror. 9:19
WTF.....why the Trump image faded in...? Really... How the f*@k does he have anything to do with everything GOT?
LEAVE TRUMP ALONE!!!! LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!
😂😂😂 Idiot.
"Just got the job done and then croak." Sounds like a good ass king in my book. The phrase "may you live in interesting times" is a curse, not a blessing
What about the blood raven (Brenden Rivers) ??.....you mentioned John Arryn .......you should have talked about the three eyed raven 🤓
If you were to rank the worst US President, I would strongly rank Woodrow Wilson as the worst. He started the Cold War with a hot one by mismanaging the Russian Intervention (1918-1920), he brought Jim Crow to the Federal Government, he gave rise to the 2nd KKK, he started domestic surveillance at its worst, he invaded Latin America for funsies, he instigated a wartime prohibition, despite fighting against the Prohibition movement, he established the Federal Reserve (it's terrible in practice), he perverted liberalism, and I think I could go on, but you get the idea.
Andrew Jackson committed genocide
Damn...Joffrey got destroyed lmao
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Ah i see Aenys was a lot on the Isle of Faces to have some fun wirh the Children of the Forest.
Some kings in this story are monstrous. Rob just fucked. Getting your end away isnt the same as killing the men that built your castle or cutting your wifes heart out. That being said, great video as always
Another awesome video about the history. Appreciate your work so much.
I would put balon in that list,the guy was a fanatic who was planning in pushing the north and the islands to the seven.
Also Robert didnt bankruppt the realm,Littlefinger did,Robert shouldnt be in that list,he reigned over a 16 year long reign with just one major war that was localized in a single region and ended fairly quickly,daeron should take his place since he caused the death of 50000 people at least by conquering dorne and failing to hold it
9:17 I wouldn’t describe Aerys I as a decent king. His uncle Bloodraven did all the ruling for him, unless you’re implying that a passive king is a decent king, which sadly King Aenys classifies as
I do disagree with your jab at Trump, as it's not accurate when describing his presidency, nor character as a person, more so an app description of Obama or Bush. and mostly what a potential Bernie v Hillary presidential race would have looked like...just you know... fewer dragons lol. Nonetheless, I'm not trying to talk politics, just say I agree with your decision to put Robert as one of the worst kings. I think people just get so hung up on how he was characterized in mediums like the show that they forget just how bad he actually was.
Trump is a nonce and so are you.
I apologize for my comment yesterday. I love ASOIAF, I usually look into it to forget about the madness of the real world. Thank you for all your had work. I wish you the best in your work.
you should do a similar video to this but the BEST kings
how did you forget to add that when the mad king was kidnapped and left in the dark dungeon is the reason what made him truly mad.
Why the Trump insert, tho?
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Because he sucks because his selfish ambition and has no empathy for the common man, I though it was obvious
The mad king aerys probably had either blood raven or bran warging into his mind driving him insane like Hodor
But that trump shade sent me 💀
The narrarator sounds like a crazed, liberal, lunatic. A beta-male, nothing more.
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@@JayCity10 oouuu the toxic alpha male approach. Must say I'm not impressed. It's funny because those types of individuals usually have limited education and care about compensating for their "lack of manhood"
" Most caracthers with even an ounce of power, usually suck"- GOT to a tee, indeed..
I can't be the only one who thinks Maegor didn't do anything wrong. He was being cruel because he had to.
I also think his destruction of the faith militants was essential for Jaeherys later rule
Killing his innocent nephews was bad. Expecially the squire he tormented to death
Yeah , I think the same, Aenys allowed too much chaos to spread throughout the realm, (although he did questionable things like the zillion wives and killing the constructors of the red keep) but he did what had to be done to avoid further wars, he walked so Jahaerys could run
@@simbol5638he didn’t kill his nephew, they were at war fighting for the throne, if Maegor didn’t kill him, his nephew would have killed him.
Does the House of the Dragon show change your opinion at all?
Viserys in the show was actualy better than he was in the book. he seemed driven by prophecy and love for his wife, rather than stubbornness
Why did you silhouette Donald Trump in at the 6 minute mark for a video about a work of fiction. ?
Cry
I didnt know Trump ruled the 7 Kingdoms at one point. Wow.
Listening to this after the 8th episode of House of the Dragon. SPOILERS!!!
Honestly surprised that joke about Andrew didn’t turn into a whole rant.
Did he really have to put politics into the world of Westeros
I watch these to escape the real world not be slapped in the face with it
Most people doesn’t want to escape, not everyone is miserable. If you want simple mindless unrealistic entertainment, there are a lot of that too.
Yeah that pissed me off as well
@@Gnossiene369 You did not get the point. I never said people want an escape because they're miserable it's because the video is based on a "fantasy novel" so unless Trump was once a king in Westeros I don't see the point of putting him in really.
Yea because it's not like the events or people in ASOIAF arent based off of real people.....man how could he do such a terrible terrible thing. * he says with maximum sarcasm*
Aegon the IV was a professional instigator
Dude woke up every day and choose violence
How dare you put Robert on that list, Gods he was strong once
*once*
@@thegrimmarcher202 **joke**
Oh Christ did I just accidentally spoil House of the Dragon for myself?
Robert weren't good but not the worst. After season 8, we really should've listened
Aerys II was the mad, but he wasn't the worst and that was only because Tywin was around
Watching this from the perspective of wat king house of the dragon, and I LOVE to see how aegon and rhaenyra are brought up lol
well this is based on hindsight, and none of the people in the main story really remember Aegon II or Rhaenyra fondly
I just feel pity for Aenys, really.
I loved the prince andrew bit very good
Was the picture of trump in front of you saying narcissistic and unempathetic really necessary for this video I’m not that big of a fan of trump but common I don’t like this needless modern politics thrown in
Accidentally spoiling myself HOTD god damn