How to get an IFR clearance at a non-towered airport.
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
- There are multiple ways to get an IFR clearance at a non-towered airport. Many airports have a RCO to speak direct with Departure. Other airports have no way of ground contact and require pick up in the air. This airport had a frequency for the FSS at Bridgeport
Nice job Doc, although it's Fitchburg, not berg. You were about 10 miles from my house, did my rusty pilot return at Fitchburg, nice airport, good flight school there, no restaurant as you know. They are redoing that runway soon (hopefully) turning it a couple degrees and making it 5,000 feet. The cross runway will be eliminated when done as it has been deemed unsafe. You seem to fly up this way a lot, if I see you someday I'll buy you a cup of coffee, thanks for the videos.
Good video. I did my IFR training at a nontowered airport so the variety of ways to get clearances and their meanings are somewhat second-nature. When I moved to a busy Class D, wow, did it get easy! I'm back at a nontowered now. I know it can be a little confusing going the other way - being used to the simplicity of clearances with a Tower and being faced with figuring out the best way to get the clearance without one. One thing to consider. When talking to Approach on the way in, even if using flight following, ask if they have a phone number to call them directly. They often do and, unlike FSS, which is only a relay, have more details on your clearance.
Wow! Sorry for the long post.
Great post and thanks for watching
Thanks for posting this. It looks like you maybe got bit by the apparent conflict between your clearance, the ODP, and the standard traffic pattern exit. Runway 32 is standard left traffic, but you turned right because that was the shortest turn to 180. You would have been more predictable to other traffic had you used a standard departure of the pattern from a normal left downwind. Also worth remembering that ATC expects that you’ll fly the ODP unless they explicitly say otherwise.
DEPARTURE PROCEDURE: Rwy 32, climb via heading
324° to 2600 before proceeding on course. For climb in
visual conditions: cross Fitchburg Muni Airport at or
above 1800.
I’ve been flummoxed by a similar situation departing IFR in VMC myself.
I was in visual conditions so I crossed the airport above 1800 feet . As far as the pattern goes you are correct the it was left pattern but I was focused on getting on a 180 degree heading. Thanks for watching on your input
Eric , AtC also cleared him to turn to 180 “When able”, Probably because it was a clear VfR day. If it was an IFR day , you are correct.
Gary Gazman, "when able," "In conjunction with ATC instructions, gives the pilot the latitude to delay compliance until a condition or event has been reconciled" (Pilot/Controller Glossary). In this case the "condition or event" include traffic considerations, our departure from an airport where Class E doesn't begin until 700 AGL, our need to clear obstructions and terrain, and our option to use the ODP.
You were not direct bosox. Initial heading was 180, radar vectors. So fly that 180 heading until the controller gives you a new heading. Then only go direct to the fix if the controller tells you to do so.
Nice
Love your videos! Question, are the overhead air vents stock cessna parts or are they aftermarket? If so, where did you get them.
HookedOnUtah they are stock
You should add more cameras...otherwise great vids Doc!
Matt Dyer working on it
Doc needs to become more familiar with correct procedures. Readng back the filed route vs the cleared route makes no sense.
You can just call WX- Brief , because most of the time , depending on where you are , you usually can’t get clearance delivery etc from the ground. This just happened to me at Oswego airport in an IFR day. Couldn’t reach approach and just used my phone.
I put the number for phone in the description part of the video
Why was your altimeter showing 2900 when you said 4K?
Lee Bushong The gps shows Msl but not corrected pressure altitude I guess
I would love to hear from Foreflight users on their process for filing and receiving clearances.
I am currently going through IFR training, so have not done this yet, but it is my understanding that you can file through Foreflight by a couple of different processes. First, there is PDC, which allows you to not only file, but receive clearance by text. foreflight.com/support/video-library/watch/?v=mobile-pdc-and-d-atis There are a few caveats, however. There is a list of about seventy-five major hubs where this is only available, and, every pilot who uses that aircraft must file the same way.
Secondly, you may file your flight plan through Foreflight and then receive by email a copy of your approved route minutes later via email. foreflight.com/support/video-library/watch/?list=filing-briefing This does not give you a clearance, you still must call ATC for that, but they will already have your flight plan in their system, thereby simplifying your verbal copying of the flight plan, because you will have already seen the approved plan that they have sent via email.
Hopefully this information is correct, and would love to hear comments from those who have used this system.
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I had forgotten that. Watched it before ForeFlight, and did not appreciate it. Also, had to watch again the one with your daughter when you hit turbulence. The look she gave you was priceless! ruclips.net/video/cGFaKQzXfS4/видео.html
I use my cell
Yeah, every uncontrolled airport doesn't have an RCO. National Clearance Delivery 888-766-8267.