Picking Up an IFR Flight Plan After Departure - MzeroA Flight Training
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- Опубликовано: 1 фев 2021
- There are many ways to grab your IFR clearance from an uncontrolled/pilot-controlled airport. In this video, Jason shows you how it’s ok to depart VFR remain clear of all airspace, and grab your IFR clearance in the air.
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IFR to Kxxx.....couldn't be easier. The syntax was exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.
I have to say every time you make a video I’m like wow He remind me that thing even though it’s simple videos but it’s very helpful
A good pilot is always learning
Words to live by! Thanks for watching!
That was really interesting to see. I have always understood that ATC can deny a pop up request, but I did not expect that they might initially provide a VFR clearance as they work on the IFR one. I also did not know that they could clear you to your destination via vectors as part of the clearance.
KLNA is my home field and the plane in the pattern 7JW is my regular trainer. I did this exact scenario last week in real instrument conditions (picked up clearance under the low ceiling) with my instructor as part of my training. Lots happening, very fast. Great video!
Thanks for watching!
Learned how to fly at Lantana and my first flight lesson was in 7JW. The Wild West airport, so cool to see Jason there
If you’re IFR qualified it’s always the way to go if leaving your local area. Having an additional set of eyes for traffic plus the ability to punch though some clouds or weather enroute is 100% worth the chance of a slightly longer routing. I’m always IFR outside of local practice flights.
Thanks for the insight and thanks for watching!
I received my instrument rating back in 1988 and even then flying was fairly expensive. You will find out in certain areas that it’s gonna cost a whole lot more to fly IFR because controllers often steer you around class B or class C airspace and can take you as much is 20 miles in a roundabout way. If you’re flying on a budget this could add an extra half hour of Hobbs time. In this day of the cost of fuel if you’re an owner you probably want to go the most direct route you can and if the weather is clear you’re more than likely do point-to-point via GPS. Just sayin’.
Thanks for sharing this...I shall exercise the same technique.
Energy, relevant, concise and value-added. Thanks Jason!
Hey Jason, flying out of paragon, love the videos, blessing to you, teaching me a lot and hopefully meeting you one day!
Thanks so much for watching, hopefully one day!
Jason thanks for sharing, great video!
Another Mzeroa video hell yea, never miss Em always gold! Thanks for the hours of knowledge Jason
No problem, glad you enjoyed it!
Jason...exceptional. Love the upgrade as well.
Flying vicariously through you when I have to work.
Thanks for watching!
Great videos! Really enjoy! Fly out of KTPF so especially useful !!
Great video, Jason! I'm still catching up on the 31 Day Safer Pilot Challenge. Thanks so much for doing it!
Thank you for watching!
Jason, great video! However, you forgot to mention that if you take off VFR and you’re going to pick up your IFR clearance in the air and there is IMC within your altitude or course, you cannot enter IMC until you receive your clearance. Even if it is just a little bit of scud. If the conditions is classified IMC you must maintain VFR until you receive your IFR clearance.
So I am confused, when they gave him 6K westbound, can he enter controlled airspace or do you have to wait for that clearance?
Believe the call was maintain VFR at or below 6000. That wasn't thr IFR clearance until the controller came back with "Cleared direct to..."
@@IranAir12 It's class C airspace, so all he needs is to establish two-way communication with the controller. That was accomplished as soon as the controller responded with his callsign. Still no IFR clearance at that point though.
Thanks Jason. I enjoy your content.
I haven't seen any of your videos on GCO /RCO. I would appreciate if you do a video on them. I recently got my instrument rating and haven't used GCO or RCO yet. Thanks.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback!
I used to do it this way all the time. It saves time.
Thanks for tuning in!
My plan is to do more IFR plans, I do so much VFR, but I need to switch my mentality
Hahaha.. how did you come up with the username squawk vfr! That's awesome
Thanks for watching! Have fun with IFR!
Appreciate all your videos. Still struggling with radio. Suggestions to overcome fears?
Appreciate you watching...practice radio calls by yourself! Better wait, chair fly while saying radio calls aloud. You'll shake your nerves, remember not everyone is proficient with radio calls from the start!
You are a consummate professional airman, sir!
Thanks for the kind words, Martin!
Yay LANTANA!!!! That was my Cherokee's home airport before I brought her over to southern Nevada.
Nice!
Jason - intent of the Aviation Mastery The Book? Can you provide a synopsis...describing what 'The Book' is about? Is it IFR and/or VFR-centric?
Hey Jason, could you tell me what kind of sun visors you have?
When you first get into the air there is a rush you feel inside. Like no other feeling. Like riding motorcycles. Don’t feel bad about wrong transponder code. You are flying in the air in a machine that man made. Feel the rush.
How about a video on calling flight services and creating and picking up ifr flight plan?
Thanks for the feedback, Andrew!
I can't help but like "Jason" . . . my son is "Jason". We used to fly together; a lot . . . Bob
He has a great name! Thanks for watching, Bob!
What did you file? Just departure airport direct or a point along the way as your origin?
Hi Will! You can file your departure airport as your origin even if you pick up your clearance after departure. If you need more clarification please reach out to us at support@mzeroa.com. Thanks and fly safe!
Jason, what did you use as you initial point in the IFR clearance and why?
Of course, I meant your IFR flight plan.
Hi Bob! You can file your departure airport as your origin even if you pick up your clearance after departure. If you need more clarification please reach out to us at support@mzeroa.com. Thanks and fly safe!
@@MzeroAFlightTraining Thanks, Jason. Make sense. Just wasn't sure if I filed the first point as the departure airport, did I need to / should I stay near the departure airport while picking up the clearance. If it is OK to remain VMC and proceed to your first -planned waypoint while picking up the clearance, that is certainly the easiest way to do it in the situation you describe. Thanks again and great work on all your vids!
Wow 31 days Time fly when your having fun one from the Bahamas
Thanks for watching, Osbourne!
Do hou need a clearance on the ground when you file a VFR flight plan?
Hello! You don't need to pick up a clearance for a VFR flight plan like an IFR flight plan. You still may need to call clearance delivery when departing VFR from a Class B or Class C airport, and you can still request flight following, but this is not a flight plan clearance. If you need more clarification or help with anything else in your training please reach out to us at support@mzeroa.com! Thanks and fly safe!
Not really related to the video subject but why do you not have a PPT on the yoke?
Hi Tom! Sometimes pressing the PTT switch while the other pilot is flying can add some resistance and make it harder for him/her to add control inputs to the yoke. While very minimal, it can have an affect on maneuvers. A PTT off the yoke is a good way to get around that. Thanks for watching! Fly safe!
@@MzeroAFlightTraining I know exactly what you mean but never thought about it like that! Great insight thank you!
I've never not announced my taxi intentions... why wouldn't you want everyone to know what you're planning on doing? And as demonstrated, if you haven't heard someone they're more likely to let you know what they're doing as well.
Thanks for the insight, Robert!
How “cold” is it there really? A jacket? Asking from the Midwest 😇
It has been high 50s low 70s. So laugh accordingly
The definition of "cold" is different in Florida than it is in the Midwest ;)
I couldn't understand the controller at 10:02. The only thing I heard was "Continue your VFR climb..." Wish they would speak slower and clearly.
Hi Jash! The controller said "continue your climb westbound and I will have your clearance in about 5 miles." Radios can be tricky! Keep on practicing by watching videos like this or by using LiveATC! And as always if you need any more help in your journey please reach out to us at support@mzeroa.com! Fly safe!
Hi jason !
Your voice not clear because too close to the microphone !
Rrgards
Thanks for the feedback, Juan!
VOLUME YES LOL
I found it interesting and a bit disconcerting that you think it’s good to challenge yourself to hand fly the aircraft while picking up your IFR clearance when you have an autopilot to use as a barrier to making mistakes. Why is making it possible to make a mistake a good thing e.g. scanning ineffectiveness, aircraft control, possibly writing down an incorrect clearance. Do you teach your students that way? Automation has some drawbacks but I believe in using it when possible, especially in the environment you were in.
Jason, in re-reading my comments I came across a bit too critical. I enjoy watching your channel and always learn something. I believe in your credo that “ a good pilot is always learning.” My intent was to propose that there are more benefits than not in using automation when it’s available. I’ll try to be more discerning in any future posts. Cheers...
Hi Marty! Thanks for watching. We are glad that you enjoy our videos! Safety always takes the forefront. If you have an autopilot and understand how it works, feel free to use it. However, it is good to practice in case one day you need to write down a clearance if your autopilot fails. Keep your hand flying skill proficient because you never know when you will need it! Hopefully this answers your question. If you need more clarification or have any other questions please reach out to us at support@mzeroa.com. Thanks!
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