In case anyone is wondering who Mr. NonZionism is talking about when he talks about “rightoids” with personality disorders, this guy was all over SubStack last week insinuating I was an anti-Semite because I questioned Churchill’s perception as a hero of World War 2 (even though my essay wasn’t about Churchill). When I then invited Mr. nonZionism on my channel to discuss the issue, provided that he stick to criticisms of me and the ideas I wrote about (as opposed to associations), he refused preferring to stick to vague insinuations. I am sorry. I can’t do this. I am here to talk about ideas. Invectives against me for being part of a group of supposedly crazy people (who are never named) and attempts to associate me with 4Chans-trolls is not an idea. It isn’t even an accusation. I am not even sure what I am suppose to do with this. I can’t argue against anything because no specific accusation is ever made. I guess I am just supposed to sit back and watch people try to foment a whisper campaign against me and my colleagues. I don’t find this an attractive proposition.
Stop engaging, Dave! These people are bad faith. Alex is 6-12 months away from writing a, “I saw the dissident right up close and was horrified of what I saw.” type article.
Btw Dave, as I tried to tell you before, showing up like a dog who can be summoned every time some nobody mentions your name is not becoming of someone who hopes to lead a future elite to world dominance. Can you picture the leader of Singapore showing up in the comments section of a video of someone talking poorly about him? Would he write a multiple paragraph long response to the ridiculous criticisms of him featured in the video the moment the video goes up because he has nothing better to do? Of course not. Once again, this is dog energy. We need lion energy. A lion wouldn't do this. So why are you?
@@TheDistributist LION ENERGY, Dave. A lion wouldn’t quibble over terms which are largely aesthetic. A lion would address the point being made. Or not answer at all. You say calling you a dog isn’t helping the conversation. But you did show up, and you did answer, exactly as I described. Now you are sounding exactly like Alex was a few months back. Is this about making people feel welcome on Twitter or in comments sections, or is it about discovering truth, building a political movement, and ultimately winning? Up to you.
@@DukeBluedevil70 never mind dogs ... feline worship / mascotteree is bad for birds ... it also superficializes. Shortest prosemite definition: fueled by gamblin money and kneejerk selfharm consumerhabits w protocullerism as, in and on a supporting roll over, pick up n swarm support campaign / role & pr tour. A staggering lie upon stackery leggo that makes sure unemployment rates among evil nerds is very low.
don't follow this show super closely but i have observed the shift. if there's a woke right it's in here. has constantin "facts and logic" kisin been here?
I’d say that he said to clean your room before trying to save the world, not to not do it. Have your own life in order before trying to get the rest of the world in order as it were.
36:19 onwards: "You have your red pill moment... it's an intense emotional feeling to be rid of the obscene liberal lies... a feeling of unveiling the curtain... it's habit-forming & you want more & more & more... & at some point you have to stop...if you can't de-addict yourself from this feeling of unveiling the curtain, you are going to go into crazy territory" This is very convincing. Plus there's a cult-like element, with the DR gurus espousing their wisdom to eager acolytes. And the gurus certainly don't like naysayers or being challenged. It's a big circle jerk. I really can't stand progressivism, and I've learnt a lot from the DR. But there's a mountain of bullshit going on, even with some of the most respected DR voices. They may be smart people, but they're massively over-estimating how many things they are smart at, and how lost they are in their own system. The podcast world doesn't help, because although there are lots of 'discussions', the gurus make sure they are never *seriously* challenged by a serious critic on anything.
@@j.greenriver6293 Not being allowed to leave is only one characteristic of a cult. There are plenty of others - such as intolerance of dissent, & being blocked & excluded for voicing perfectly reasonable disagreements or criticisms, which I see pretty often. Anyhow, most of the DR happens online & very few people meet IRL, so the dynamics of "leaving" are different.
@@johnwesleyharding "Intolerance of dissent" Dissent is literally the soul of the DR. Can you give examples if the DR ciercing people to follow one way??????
@@johnwesleyharding "You follow kachuta, a strong and authoritarian leader who just blocks people and remove messages whenever she wish therefore you're a part of a cult." Does this ring true? No. Because it's nonsense. For something to be a cult it has to have a range of properties, one of those being "can't leave without issues" and "strong authoritarian leader". Something doesn't become a cult without a combination of those properties.
That man actually says NOTHING. Word salad. No substance at all. I'm shocked that someone can talk do much about antisemitism without saying what it is.
3:55 "As a rule, it's not really true" except for its entire history and the guest included no, no somewhere in the dream of MLK is the exception that we all have to pretend is the rule
The evolution of this podcast is transcending its origins without abandoning them, while self-important and bitter dissidents stay perpetually stuck in the muck chasing the elusive dragon of that first red pill.
Oh, I am with him on bikes and walking cities. I just don't understand people hating on bikes. As someone who lives in a coty wirh kids and without a car iys so cool to be able to get everywhere just using public transportation, bikes and your feet.
Soooo, I'll just ask...do we (black people) get to keep our lives and just live away from you, or does our genetically inferior intelligence make us not worthy to live?
*shrug* there were a few bl4ck people who lived thru n4zi germany. probably not the most comfortable lifestyle but they lived thru it, provided they weren't communists, criminals or from enemy foreign countries. what i mean is that "racist White people" whatever that is, are perfectly capable of treating black people with decency. it's been done before. so maybe think about these topics in a serious way?
I agree with his take on Israeli society, as an Israeli myself. I do however think that forced eugenics and raising somehow the the average IQ will come down to the same general problem he had diagnosed, which is: unless one foments a general reset of society, one will inevitably end up with a democratic form for the general populace which hides in plain view a neo-Feudal reality of elite rule, in which life becomes unbearable for the middle strata but is supported by the dumbed down masses. One can reach a super-bureaucratic state this way, but most if not all forms of freedom, even minor ones, will ultimately disappear. The tradeoff seems not to appeal to the middle strata, which is the reason they will not support it, because the middle strata only support policies which either enlarges its power or freedom, and forced eugenics will not achieve it.
In case anyone is wondering who Mr. NonZionism is talking about when he talks about “rightoids” with personality disorders, this guy was all over SubStack last week insinuating I was an anti-Semite because I questioned Churchill’s perception as a hero of World War 2 (even though my essay wasn’t about Churchill).
When I then invited Mr. nonZionism on my channel to discuss the issue, provided that he stick to criticisms of me and the ideas I wrote about (as opposed to associations), he refused preferring to stick to vague insinuations.
I am sorry. I can’t do this. I am here to talk about ideas. Invectives against me for being part of a group of supposedly crazy people (who are never named) and attempts to associate me with 4Chans-trolls is not an idea. It isn’t even an accusation.
I am not even sure what I am suppose to do with this. I can’t argue against anything because no specific accusation is ever made. I guess I am just supposed to sit back and watch people try to foment a whisper campaign against me and my colleagues.
I don’t find this an attractive proposition.
Stop engaging, Dave! These people are bad faith. Alex is 6-12 months away from writing a, “I saw the dissident right up close and was horrified of what I saw.” type article.
Btw Dave, as I tried to tell you before, showing up like a dog who can be summoned every time some nobody mentions your name is not becoming of someone who hopes to lead a future elite to world dominance. Can you picture the leader of Singapore showing up in the comments section of a video of someone talking poorly about him? Would he write a multiple paragraph long response to the ridiculous criticisms of him featured in the video the moment the video goes up because he has nothing better to do? Of course not.
Once again, this is dog energy. We need lion energy. A lion wouldn't do this. So why are you?
@@DukeBluedevil70 just calling me a dog isn’t helping this conversation dude
@@TheDistributist LION ENERGY, Dave. A lion wouldn’t quibble over terms which are largely aesthetic. A lion would address the point being made. Or not answer at all. You say calling you a dog isn’t helping the conversation. But you did show up, and you did answer, exactly as I described.
Now you are sounding exactly like Alex was a few months back. Is this about making people feel welcome on Twitter or in comments sections, or is it about discovering truth, building a political movement, and ultimately winning? Up to you.
@@DukeBluedevil70 never mind dogs ... feline worship / mascotteree is bad for birds ... it also superficializes. Shortest prosemite definition: fueled by gamblin money and kneejerk selfharm consumerhabits w protocullerism as, in and on a supporting roll over, pick up n swarm support campaign / role & pr tour. A staggering lie upon stackery leggo that makes sure unemployment rates among evil nerds is very low.
ugh "the dissident right is so dumb and wrong, just be a religious extremist instead."
Homie is an ethno supremacist...
Once upon a time this show had guests like Academic Agent and Thomas777. Now we get people like NonZionism and Richard Hanania.
Huge upgrade, crazy
don't follow this show super closely but i have observed the shift. if there's a woke right it's in here. has constantin "facts and logic" kisin been here?
@@fori6377 Not an upgrade.
@@fori6377 Huge sellout chase after a mainstream audience*
Isnt this basically the Jordan Peterson argument? “Clean your room, don’t worry about saving the world”.
I’d say that he said to clean your room before trying to save the world, not to not do it. Have your own life in order before trying to get the rest of the world in order as it were.
36:19 onwards: "You have your red pill moment... it's an intense emotional feeling to be rid of the obscene liberal lies... a feeling of unveiling the curtain... it's habit-forming & you want more & more & more... & at some point you have to stop...if you can't de-addict yourself from this feeling of unveiling the curtain, you are going to go into crazy territory"
This is very convincing. Plus there's a cult-like element, with the DR gurus espousing their wisdom to eager acolytes. And the gurus certainly don't like naysayers or being challenged. It's a big circle jerk.
I really can't stand progressivism, and I've learnt a lot from the DR. But there's a mountain of bullshit going on, even with some of the most respected DR voices. They may be smart people, but they're massively over-estimating how many things they are smart at, and how lost they are in their own system. The podcast world doesn't help, because although there are lots of 'discussions', the gurus make sure they are never *seriously* challenged by a serious critic on anything.
There is no cult element, you can leave at any point. Nobody is going to knock on your door to get you back.
@@j.greenriver6293 Not being allowed to leave is only one characteristic of a cult. There are plenty of others - such as intolerance of dissent, & being blocked & excluded for voicing perfectly reasonable disagreements or criticisms, which I see pretty often. Anyhow, most of the DR happens online & very few people meet IRL, so the dynamics of "leaving" are different.
@@johnwesleyharding
"Intolerance of dissent"
Dissent is literally the soul of the DR.
Can you give examples if the DR ciercing people to follow one way??????
@@johnwesleyharding "You follow kachuta, a strong and authoritarian leader who just blocks people and remove messages whenever she wish therefore you're a part of a cult."
Does this ring true? No. Because it's nonsense. For something to be a cult it has to have a range of properties, one of those being "can't leave without issues" and "strong authoritarian leader". Something doesn't become a cult without a combination of those properties.
That man actually says NOTHING. Word salad. No substance at all. I'm shocked that someone can talk do much about antisemitism without saying what it is.
3:55 "As a rule, it's not really true" except for its entire history and the guest included no, no somewhere in the dream of MLK is the exception that we all have to pretend is the rule
The evolution of this podcast is transcending its origins without abandoning them, while self-important and bitter dissidents stay perpetually stuck in the muck chasing the elusive dragon of that first red pill.
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Oh, I am with him on bikes and walking cities. I just don't understand people hating on bikes. As someone who lives in a coty wirh kids and without a car iys so cool to be able to get everywhere just using public transportation, bikes and your feet.
Deep Left Analysis brought me here
Soooo, I'll just ask...do we (black people) get to keep our lives and just live away from you, or does our genetically inferior intelligence make us not worthy to live?
*shrug* there were a few bl4ck people who lived thru n4zi germany. probably not the most comfortable lifestyle but they lived thru it, provided they weren't communists, criminals or from enemy foreign countries. what i mean is that "racist White people" whatever that is, are perfectly capable of treating black people with decency. it's been done before. so maybe think about these topics in a serious way?
Just stay away. Reimmigrate to one of your utopias like Congo or Somalia.
Most of what I've seen is suggesting "live away".
A Small minority (some bapist bros) are suggesting usung Africa as an adventure ground
I enjoyed this conversation. Alex is certainly on an interesting journey.
I agree with his take on Israeli society, as an Israeli myself. I do however think that forced eugenics and raising somehow the the average IQ will come down to the same general problem he had diagnosed, which is: unless one foments a general reset of society, one will inevitably end up with a democratic form for the general populace which hides in plain view a neo-Feudal reality of elite rule, in which life becomes unbearable for the middle strata but is supported by the dumbed down masses. One can reach a super-bureaucratic state this way, but most if not all forms of freedom, even minor ones, will ultimately disappear. The tradeoff seems not to appeal to the middle strata, which is the reason they will not support it, because the middle strata only support policies which either enlarges its power or freedom, and forced eugenics will not achieve it.
Oh the irony
Who is being interviewed?
some rabbi
Great talk!
This guy is GOATed.