I find it quite amazing sometimes how simple cars can be. 1 piece of bent steel makes such a difference. Best thing i ever did was add air bags to my F350 dually. Rides like a Caddy and good for 16000 lbs. Keeps the ride height level even with bobcat and excavator on trailer. And it was simple install too. Glad to see you with such a grin on your face. Boy's and their toys in the shop!!!!
Yeah i got airbags on my f350, those bags make the ride worse, like the back of the bus bumpy. Unless ur constantly weighed down. Or airing them up and down all day
Really love your channel. Just bought a helper spring, and already, thanks to you, for such a simple job, I see I done two things wrong. One; I left my truck up by the axle, and two; I thought that second nut was a lock nut, so I placed both of them on the outside. So tomorrow I'll be changing it...and doing it right. Thanks again for a super video
Wish I had known about these, put a set of load leveler shocks on my ram for help towing my camper. They work great, but were a pain in the arss to install. This looks easy.
I bought a kit for my 2011 Ranger a few years ago and I should install it since the rear of my truck sags so much when I have sand in plastic jugs in the rear in the winter for traction.
Idk , I’d probably not go over the GCWR. The helper spring will let u go up to the max payload for vehicle more safely but they do not increase weight capacity. Axle, rim, tire, etc limitations still apply
The shocks on here were already pretty new so I am going to skip replacment for now. I'll see how it feels once I get it back on the road and decide for sure then.
Thank you for this and just happens you have the vw pickup too. What part number is that? I just wasted my money on a hellwig helper i didnt know there was way cheaper options like that! thanks.
Sir I have a 2011 Nissan Frontier and my springs are like your over the axel but there were couple review comments which said that the amazon product would not work for springs over the axel. Looks like for you it does work. I found a complete leaf add on but it is way more work as you have to take the leaf set off and also separate it and put it back on. Too much work but I think it might make a better job to have a whole new 21 inch leaf for my Nissan because I always carry 800 lbs of tools and canopy in my truck. What do you think is better?
And get ready to replace rear axle bearings. These are fine for very limited use but don't think they have increased your GVW limits without paying for it somewhere down the line. With my luck it was in the middle of no-where and loaded.
Keeping the wheel bearings packed with fresh modern grease is a good thing to start with anyway, but you are right, These add load capacity but only in the spring department. Brakes and bearings also have to be taken into account.
@@SKANK_HUNT49 I do tend to believe that as i have an 89 turbo dodge caravan with load leveler shocks & constant heavy load for over 3 years no bearing prob, well if you dont count front wheel bearings BUT thats very common for them to go often anyways. Ive changed em twice in 3 1/2 years
Axle bearings, assuming they have adequate lubrication (diff oil changed every so often and not run dry), can handle way over the weight rating of the vehicle. They have to handle jarring large bumps at speed without failing. It's far, far worse to have a suspension bottom out, making the spring rate go instantly from however many lbs per inch to infinity, than to have it sprung and not bottomed out. In short, there should be plenty of "cushion" room in the axle bearings to easily handle a somewhat increased load over what the factory springs provide without failure... if you're not bottoming out the suspension.
Great video bro i carry a lot of tools in my 2019 sierra and sagging a little need to stiffin it back up never new these were out there. Im definitely getting them
Great Video, I was looking into these springs for a Boat trailer I have . It has 3500 lb Slipper springs on it. Would you know THE LENGTH of the Helper Spings, and if they would work on "Slipper Springs"? Thanks!
Is that front part of the helper up against the stock spring after tightening it? hard to tell but I would think fort that rivet placement to increase capacity it should be as tight as it is physically able to go down. Not sure what the strength of those U-bolts are. What would it do if you put a second helper on the spring in front of the axle?-
I totally don't get how this works, lol. Maybe I got distracted at the wrong time in the vid. I need to do a courier to haul a 19' dual axle camp trailer.
Did it raise your truck up? Seems like it would. I’m wondering if you install them with load/wheels on ground if that would stop it from raising it up.
I'm not sure about something but I'm getting ready to adjust helper spring already on my truck. Should the peg be between the axle and u blot or should it be after the ubolt? Seem the way you have it it would tend to want to slip forward thought the ubolt bracket towards the axle. Or is it meant to stop helper spring from pulling out of the ubolt bracket backwards?
OMG, I am so confused! I have spent days trying to figure out if/how I can get a slide-in camper (the one I want is a pop-up only 1197 lbs, but 1433 with options) on my 2019 Nissan Frontier King Cab SV that has the following info in pounds: GVWR = 5690; GAWR (front) =3296; GAWR (rear) =3331’ Curb Weight = 4470; and Load Capacity (per label inside my door) = 1213. On one hand I watch videos like this that says the leaf spring (air bags, sway bars, etc.) could increase the load capacity 800-1500 lbs possibly and I know others with midsize trucks have similar campers, BUT also everything I have read says you cannot increase capacity and NEVER go over your GVWR. If this is true, how is it that other Frontiers have campers on them? I tried considering buying a ½ ton truck, but by the time you get that higher GVWR, you have a much greater curb weight and still end up with only 1500-1700 capacity for most of these trucks. Please help me understand! Is it possible for a truck with a payload capacity of 1220 to be modified to carry more safety, even though doing so would exceed the GVWR or do these modifications actually increase the GVWR accordingly as well? Thanks --Suzy
I’ve installed these on a few trucks and I’ve noticed they don’t really add any height. They just take the body roll out of the rear end and help with light trucks without towing packages.
could they crack other springs? i found overload springs on a toyota and found the springs cracked? had to send it to a spring company to have new springs made, and they told me the overload springs were the cause of the cracks
A lot of people add these after the damage is done... after the cracking or severe overloading of the factory springs making them permanently sagged. So they add these helper springs to get the vehicle back to original ride height (or closer to it) without actually replacing the damaged original springs.
I need to order these for my dodge dakota. It says its good for leafsprings not bigger than 2.5 inches. But mine somehow are 2 and 3/4 inches. Do you know if that will still squeeze in ?.
Here is the best explanation that I could find- Helper springs are an aftermarket product that can be attached to your suspension to take the pressure off the original springs that came with your vehicle. They work by keeping the back of your truck as level as possible by creating a stiffness that can stand up to whatever you can put in the back
I thought you were joking at first...but you installed them underneath the leafsprings when their supposed to be on top of leafsprings, just to let you know....
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I find it quite amazing sometimes how simple cars can be. 1 piece of bent steel makes such a difference. Best thing i ever did was add air bags to my F350 dually. Rides like a Caddy and good for 16000 lbs. Keeps the ride height level even with bobcat and excavator on trailer. And it was simple install too. Glad to see you with such a grin on your face. Boy's and their toys in the shop!!!!
Boy you aren't kidding!
Yeah i got airbags on my f350, those bags make the ride worse, like the back of the bus bumpy. Unless ur constantly weighed down. Or airing them up and down all day
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Really love your channel.
Just bought a helper spring, and already, thanks to you, for such a simple job, I see I done two things wrong.
One; I left my truck up by the axle, and two; I thought that second nut was a lock nut, so I placed both of them on the outside. So tomorrow I'll be changing it...and doing it right.
Thanks again for a super video
I’m glad to see that Negan has found a new hobby that doesn’t involve barbed wire wrapped baseball bats!
Wish I had known about these, put a set of load leveler shocks on my ram for help towing my camper. They work great, but were a pain in the arss to install. This looks easy.
I've put a set of those on before. Yes, these are way easier to install.
@@FarpointFarms Do these type of helper springs give an increased capacity?
The lift makes it a breeze !!!!! Great video .
I bought a kit for my 2011 Ranger a few years ago and I should install it since the rear of my truck sags so much when I have sand in plastic jugs in the rear in the winter for traction.
I have done the weight in the back of the truck so many winters to get any traction.
Idk , I’d probably not go over the GCWR. The helper spring will let u go up to the max payload for vehicle more safely but they do not increase weight capacity. Axle, rim, tire, etc limitations still apply
Yup, all good if you upgrade those too.
Correct, usually the brakes are the limiting factor, or in the rust belt, your frame lol.
Without the lift ,, I’d need helper springs for my knees and back ! Great investment 👌. Maybe upgrade to a medium duty shock ?
The shocks on here were already pretty new so I am going to skip replacment for now. I'll see how it feels once I get it back on the road and decide for sure then.
@@FarpointFarms what make and model is that truck please?
Thank you for this and just happens you have the vw pickup too. What part number is that? I just wasted my money on a hellwig helper i didnt know there was way cheaper options like that! thanks.
I will have to check- It has been a while so I will have to remember where I purchased it from
They work great on my car.
Glad to help!
Sir I have a 2011 Nissan Frontier and my springs are like your over the axel but there were couple review comments which said that the amazon product would not work for springs over the axel. Looks like for you it does work. I found a complete leaf add on but it is way more work as you have to take the leaf set off and also separate it and put it back on. Too much work but I think it might make a better job to have a whole new 21 inch leaf for my Nissan because I always carry 800 lbs of tools and canopy in my truck. What do you think is better?
And get ready to replace rear axle bearings. These are fine for very limited use but don't think they have increased your GVW limits without paying for it somewhere down the line. With my luck it was in the middle of no-where and loaded.
Keeping the wheel bearings packed with fresh modern grease is a good thing to start with anyway, but you are right, These add load capacity but only in the spring department. Brakes and bearings also have to be taken into account.
No you're wrong the bearings in that truck go Infinity miles
@@SKANK_HUNT49 I do tend to believe that as i have an 89 turbo dodge caravan with load leveler shocks & constant heavy load for over 3 years no bearing prob, well if you dont count front wheel bearings BUT thats very common for them to go often anyways. Ive changed em twice in 3 1/2 years
Axle bearings, assuming they have adequate lubrication (diff oil changed every so often and not run dry), can handle way over the weight rating of the vehicle. They have to handle jarring large bumps at speed without failing. It's far, far worse to have a suspension bottom out, making the spring rate go instantly from however many lbs per inch to infinity, than to have it sprung and not bottomed out. In short, there should be plenty of "cushion" room in the axle bearings to easily handle a somewhat increased load over what the factory springs provide without failure... if you're not bottoming out the suspension.
Great video bro i carry a lot of tools in my 2019 sierra and sagging a little need to stiffin it back up never new these were out there. Im definitely getting them
Good to hear. That new of a vehicle just make sure that it will not void your warranty.
Hi Eric...........Thanks for the Video nice bit of info
Great Video, I was looking into these springs for a Boat trailer I have . It has 3500 lb Slipper springs on it. Would you know THE LENGTH of the Helper Spings, and if they would work on "Slipper Springs"? Thanks!
Is that front part of the helper up against the stock spring after tightening it? hard to tell but I would think fort that rivet placement to increase capacity it should be as tight as it is physically able to go down. Not sure what the strength of those U-bolts are.
What would it do if you put a second helper on the spring in front of the axle?-
Can't say what a second set would do, but yes, the front touches the spring when you are done.
I totally don't get how this works, lol. Maybe I got distracted at the wrong time in the vid.
I need to do a courier to haul a 19' dual axle camp trailer.
It helps a lot.👍👍👍
Why are they on the bottom instead of over top like mine
Did it lift your truck bed a lil bit?
Does it help for traction????
No. It's for lift and weight capacity.
I have an 06 Lincoln Mark LT on a 6in lift but it sags when I pull my RV trailer will
This would work!
Do you have too jack up the truck if your truck is 3 inches lift kit on it
It helps, but it's not needed.
Did it raise your truck up? Seems like it would. I’m wondering if you install them with load/wheels on ground if that would stop it from raising it up.
It lifted it 1.5" which is what I was looking for since I want to add a small camper top to it.
@@FarpointFarms wow I was thinking it would but that that much. Glad it worked out for you.
I actually want to lower mine about two inches.
Will this help a leafspring that has started collapsing?
Yes it will restore the ride height
@@FarpointFarms thanks for the reply brother
I'm not sure about something but I'm getting ready to adjust helper spring already on my truck. Should the peg be between the axle and u blot or should it be after the ubolt? Seem the way you have it it would tend to want to slip forward thought the ubolt bracket towards the axle. Or is it meant to stop helper spring from pulling out of the ubolt bracket backwards?
OMG, I am so confused! I have spent days trying to figure out if/how I can get a slide-in camper (the one I want is a pop-up only 1197 lbs, but 1433 with options) on my 2019 Nissan Frontier King Cab SV that has the following info in pounds: GVWR = 5690; GAWR (front) =3296; GAWR (rear) =3331’ Curb Weight = 4470; and Load Capacity (per label inside my door) = 1213.
On one hand I watch videos like this that says the leaf spring (air bags, sway bars, etc.) could increase the load capacity 800-1500 lbs possibly and I know others with midsize trucks have similar campers, BUT also everything I have read says you cannot increase capacity and NEVER go over your GVWR. If this is true, how is it that other Frontiers have campers on them? I tried considering buying a ½ ton truck, but by the time you get that higher GVWR, you have a much greater curb weight and still end up with only 1500-1700 capacity for most of these trucks. Please help me understand! Is it possible for a truck with a payload capacity of 1220 to be modified to carry more safety, even though doing so would exceed the GVWR or do these modifications actually increase the GVWR accordingly as well? Thanks --Suzy
its pretty simple suzy, pretty much every truck you see with a truck camper is over GVWR, and thats just the way it is.
Long story short: It's about insurance liability far more than safety.
Can’t find lease on e bay? Where do I get a pair. Thanks
Try Amazon. I think they are still sold new.
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I wish you could have done a before and after height measurement with it on the ground
I’ve installed these on a few trucks and I’ve noticed they don’t really add any height. They just take the body roll out of the rear end and help with light trucks without towing packages.
could they crack other springs? i found overload springs on a toyota and found the springs cracked? had to send it to a spring company to have new springs made, and they told me the overload springs were the cause of the cracks
In 20 years of running them on my various trucks, I've never seen that happen.
A lot of people add these after the damage is done... after the cracking or severe overloading of the factory springs making them permanently sagged. So they add these helper springs to get the vehicle back to original ride height (or closer to it) without actually replacing the damaged original springs.
What's better the under or over leaf helpers?
This helps axle wrap ?
I wonder how long these last
I had the last set on my old truck for 10 years and they were still fine.
I may have to try them. Thanks for the video!
Did they fit a silverado 94 1500?
Sure do!
why no mention of how you like them? height comparison would be nice too
I thought I'd covered it, but yes, I love them. It's about 3/4 of an inch over stock and handles large payloads much better.
I need to order these for my dodge dakota. It says its good for leafsprings not bigger than 2.5 inches. But mine somehow are 2 and 3/4 inches. Do you know if that will still squeeze in ?.
Does it change ride height?
It adds .5 to 1.5 inches of Hight depending on the setting.
You didn’t show the height before and after!
i can't seem to find these on amazon. any suggestions>
Ebay. or JC Whitney if they are still around.
How does this help without the axle being under it
Here is the best explanation that I could find- Helper springs are an aftermarket product that can be attached to your suspension to take the pressure off the original springs that came with your vehicle. They work by keeping the back of your truck as level as possible by creating a stiffness that can stand up to whatever you can put in the back
@@FarpointFarms
Probably helps by acting as a brace or something... 🤷♂️
How much u charge to do mine
Did these take some of the sag out?
It did
Will that work on my Ford transit connect 2013
If it has a rear leaf spring setup, then yes, it will.
I does, will you mind tell me where to buy them . Thanks
Works on a explorer??
I thought you were joking at first...but you installed them underneath the leafsprings when their supposed to be on top of leafsprings, just to let you know....
I assure you, These are installed correctly. There are a lot that go on top, but these are not one of them.
@@FarpointFarms Your right...there some that look just like them. I apologize..