Ontario Knife Company Rises From The Grave!!!
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
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I feel extremely hopeful like you said. I never want the old hickory series to go away
So do I 💯💯💯
This sounds like great news!
I have to admit that I had only supported Ontario through the Old Hickory knives in the past.
Earlier this summer I had broken a machete cleaning up around the place. I got on RUclips and researched machetes. Dave at ReallyBigMonkey1 had recommended the Sp 53 and the Kukri Machete so I bought the SP53… and then I found out about Ontario closing its doors.
I freaked because the SP 53 was performing like a champ. So I bought the Kukri Machete and a couple RAT 1 and RAT 2 folders in D2.
Hopefully will be able to support the new Ontario/Blue Ridge Knives company.
Keep an eye on the sp53 handle for coming loose, and ENTIRE run of them was sold slightly undersized so the handle can fail!
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors will do thanks. 👍
So far mine has been good to go but I’ll watch it.
One of my first knives was a Ontario rat 7. It was decent but the original sheath was terrible. I hope they pull through and make decent affordable blades again
My favorite and only Ontario Knife is my Bagwell Bowie, "The Gambler", which I purchased many years ago at a Florida Knife & Gun Show! I hope they keep making their quality knives, Made in the USA!
Good news and update, Jacob. Thank you for taking the time to post this.
Speaking of Queen, my granddad gave me a Queen Steel #9 (large stockman) for Christmas in 1966. I carried it everyday on the farm thru high school and each day all thru college. I rarely carry it now, as it's too important to take any chances with it.
That is really cool!
Queen was an interesting brand that made a lot of changes over the years as it switched hands.
It would have been cool to see it make a comeback but the brand name might not have enough brand power to make it worth it.
My favorite ontario knife is the marine raider bowie. One of the first big knives I ever bought and it's still going strong years later.
Good news Jacob, hopefully non of the workers will lose there job, also hopefully both quality & quality control will be sorted and out and improved, also that they bring back some of the classic Ontario designs too. I really liked the looks of the Ranger series.
Yeah I hope they can improve even just slightly to where it is acceptable. But if they can really improve and bring it back to legacy status quality that would be very nice to see.
Acceptable at a great price would be good!
Legacy!? That would be amazing!
I'm very very stoked. I wish them all the best and look forward to many purchases in the years to come.
My experience using knives hard for fun while doing blue collar work suggests that switching from spring steel to 420hc is basically keeping the chipping resistance but otherwise trading edge retention for corrosion resistance. That's a trade I myself would never make unless I was diving or if it was for a rarely if ever used backup weapon blade I didn't want to have to worry about rusting or chipping, like my EDC'd for years now Luzon. I personally made a nickleson file filet knife for my friend who was sick of quickly dulling rapalas when I found out old hickory filets had switched from 440c to 420hc.
I agree 420hc gets a largely undeserved bad reputation, but I think the finer details of the matter mean a lot to some of us, and that's something I'm hoping Ontario can find it's way back to caring about more.
Details absolutely matter and swapping steels on the dl was an awful idea- but 420hc when properly treated should hold an edge about the same if not better than 5160.
Toughness is likely a little lower.
I would have to see Dr Thomas' charts and info at knife steel nerds to be sure.
Man, you were JACKED in the Army!!! You had to be at least 30-40lbs heavier than you are now. Glad Ontario got saved, I think Blue Ridge Knives is a decent company, if I recall they did some of the ESEE folders.
Hahaha I might have had 20 lbs more muscle but I was about the same weight.
If I had some discipline I would be back in that shape now.
Really didnt want to see the sp5 or the old hickory hunter go. Awesome to hear they get a second chance at maintaining american manufacturing. I havent given up hope, even after buying an old hickory kitchen knife set that was seemingly ground by one handed blind folks as well.
I have a similar set of kitchen knives!
This is good news. I got some Ontario's via Amazon and they seem to be good ones. Seems like Amazon has all kinds of issues lately with people selling factory seconds and fakes.
The factory seconds I got from Amazon were from okc themselves but you are right-
There is plenty of bad stuff on amazon
I have an Ontario sp6 fighter knive from the 1980 … perfect… no problems … I would never give it away… 🔥🔥🔥✌️😜👍🍀🍀🍀🌎🔥🔥🔥 who knows what times are coming… then we need such good stuff … 😜✌️🍀🔥
Hey Jacob. Glad you made this video. Shows me there’s still people who care about the right things in life. I love ontario knives. And am glad to hear they are back on track. Minus the dirty tricks behind the scenes. Totally agree on the 420 hc as well. Cheap crap, tough as nails, stainless as hell, and easy to sharpen. Still trying to figure out how you can go wrong with it myself. But it’s a dirty trick to switch steel and not tell anyone.
Again, you called it years ago. OKC was the best "budget" fixed blades in my opinion. Why the SP and SPII lines didn't rule the knife industry is beyond me. The 5160 was my primary reason and I love all of the ones I purchased - SP6, SP43, SP46, SP49 and SP51, RD6, RD7, RD9 and RD Tanto. Such great designs and value.
If BRK can get Ontario to just slightly tweak their Sp line of handles... I would be OVERJOYED
Bro, I LOVE that knife with the red blade!!! Gonna check it out! I agree with you, Ontario BRING BACK THE RD SERIES NOW!! I had an RD7 a few years ago and for the last 2 years I've been kicking myself in the ass for selling it because I was never able to get another one, like ever!
Thanks man!
I'm so excited for the revival of the brand!
So, to make a long story short, government corruption put Ontario out of business.
Not even government corruption, but the slime ball type of private business that lives off of government contracts.
Close enough though lol
wow !!! about time . YES YES YES
Great to hear!! Followed you for awhile now and first comment..like your style,attitude and frankness my man.Good job!
Thanks!
Thanks for the info.Great news about OKC.I went out and grabbed several more of the butcher knives when it happened.
RD7 and RDNS7 5160 field knives are great.
The formula 420HC that OKC used was really tough! I got several of the 420HC Woodsman I gave away because I knew they had a need for them, most use them as the butcher knife profile as heavy butcher kitchen knives, but they are great for field use and large critter cutting season use. They are TOUGH if you keep to knife duties, not stones and cinder blocks. My ONE 5160 Woodsman works great as well and no one gets that one!
I’ve ordered 3 , RTAK II Knives off of Amazon. 2 of them were noticeably bent and the blade grind was horrible. 1 of them was really good quality as far as I can tell. I was always uncomfortable when ordering an Ontario Knife because I was never sure what the quality control was going to be & what steel I would actually end up receiving. Even so,… I could see the potential and being made in USA for the low price was very tempting. Like you, I’m hoping Ontario markets more to the civilian consumer, does better quality control & keeps the prices reasonable.
Yeah, I have an rd6. Throw away sgeath, but awesome knife! Quarter inch think 5160, couldn't be beat for the price.
Heck yeah!
As always great content and a great POV. Let's keep this mindset and keep supporting an American made Knife company. Blade HQ has a ton of the SP models in stock go get one and use it.
💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Glad to hear that. The factory is about 7 miles away.
12 from me!
Hey homeboy!
@@hillbillynick2000 716 showing up…
YES!
I just purchased the OKC Spec Plus SP-6. I love the weight and feel of this knife. I rate the grinding job a 7.5 out of 10. This knife can't be beat for the money. I had never heard of the OKC brand until very recently and definitely plan to buy more, especially now that they have been purchased by Blue Ridge. Looking forward to more updates from you.
I hope that under blue ridge the grinds will all be at least a 9/10! We will see, okc has the ability!
Great News! 👍🏻
Right on
Why haven't we already heard about this? Thanks!!
Let us pray for the American worker and to keep this company alive.
we hope they bring back 5160 blades and the sp51 and the Ranger RD9 with same 1/4 inch blade and with a longer handle and a lil deeper choil.
Heck yeah
Hopefully, the mentioned companies are American owned, and these are truly solely produced in America.
Yup and yup!
Ontario knife is located 12 miles from me.
Man a lot of knife folks in that area!
I like mine that i have, but would like to see them widen the tang in the SP series handle
Blue Ridge knifes is one of our distribuidors, good folks
I'm hopeful 😊
Glad to hear that OKC is making a comeback. I’ve been buying OKC knives for 40 years and have watched the quality decline over the last decade to the point where I refused to buy them anymore. The final straw came when they quietly started making knives in 1075 instead of 1095. I hope they can regain their customers trust and respect with new leadership.
Glad to hear they might still be making good knives
I'll say it will be hard to get customers back. I bought ESEE because of the quality. They will have to produce knives with some same quality for a lot cheaper. To get people back. This will be very hard to do. They have a long road ahead.
Training people to do quality work efficiently takes time and money, I think that Ontario should sub some manual operations overseas, like Mexico, El Salvador or even as far away as Argentina where there are already skilled workers in need of steady work. Other than that it would still be mostly made in the USA.
Ontario already has PLENTY of items that are imported from Taiwan, and they already have, at least to some degree, trained employees in need of steady work.
Our economy promotes exporting our own jobs then people complain about inflation and the diminishing quality of available work as they spend every dollar they make doing retail therapy with imported goods.
OKC should move out of New York but there is plenty of infrastructure for skilled labor here
Thank you for sharing with us. I'm much more hopeful now. I wonder if they'll warrant their old knives. I've got an SP5 that I broke the tip off of and lost contact with customer service amid the sale of the company. Thanks again and God bless
Since they will be the same company and the same management I would guess so!
I think they won't. I emailed them for warranty for an okc blackbird sk5 and they declined. Said they don't plan on making those anymore. Wish you better luck.
@@bserieshatch1 dang. Maybe it was just because it's being discontinued
I eneded up getting a RAT - 6 in S35VN when I heard the company was going out. Tis a beast of a knife and absolutely love it.
I wonder who made it.
I'm interested in it myself.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Cant say for sure who made it, but I got it from KnifeCenter.
Score!
I would've loved to have a Queen Stockman, I still love my Rat 5 too.
OKC maybe back, but definitely not back as budget as she used to be.
I mean, they use to be in the $30-80 range which in today's currency is like $50-130 so Lord willing they can hit that area, maybe more for their bigger stuff especially if it's well made.
So glad they got picked up by another company so their legacy can stay alive
I have an Ontario RD 7 and it is a mixed bag. I bought it back in 2010 and it came dull as a hardware store axe. The canvas micarta handles were like bricks and the sheath was one of those terrible MOLLE parachute rated monstrosities that the knife rattled around in loudly. I also have an Ontario trench dagger looking knife that I bought in 2008 that has a false edge on one side and the blade side was ground at around 45 degrees. There are grind marks all over it and it looks like something made in India for malls. The trench knife has a rubber handle that is comfortable, but the guard is not made from anything solid, but rather is simply molded rubber. Both knives have ridiculously tough and thick blades though. I want to like them, but they need to up their standards a bit. I want to see low profile kydex sheaths or equivalent and sharp blades at a bare minimum.
There was a golden era where both of those knives would likely have been fantastic, but it was short lived
Great idea ranger series and 5160 chopper sized knives
I’ve purchased the OKC 3S. From a reputable retailer, not Amazon. When I received it, I was not happy with the Grind. I re-ground the blade and now it is much better. It’s a great knife now.
Glad to hear it! I hope the heat treat is good!
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors me too. The way the blade ground while sharpening. I think the heat treatment was sufficient. I don’t plan on doing much with it other than mounting it on the front of my rifle. I did use it to trim my Christmas tree last year. I’ve also use that to shave some fat wood and so far so good.
So as far as that goes when sharpening most of what you will be able to judge is overall hardness-
However there is a VERY wide range of things that could be absolutely F'ed in the heat treat at one hardness, especially with 1095 which can easily have or developed micro fracturing around carbides.
But anyways without getting too nerdy about it-
Have fun with it!
Awesome
I still wished I didn’t sell my RD6.
Maybe they'll make em again!
Hello Jacob, thank you very much for the information. I have bought two knives from OKC. The SPL Pack Knife and the SPL Dive Knife. Both are made of Magnacut. I was very surprised that OKC produces so high quality. I also like the knives. The workmanship is good. Do you know if the knives from the Magnacut are produced in the USA. Kind regards Jörg
I know that at the end OKC was doing a collaboration with Case knives and that Case continues to make the same knife even after OKC went under- meaning of course that it was not OKC who made the knives.
I would not be surprised at ALL to know that someone else manufactured all of OKC's s35vn and magnacut knives.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Thanks. Very interesting👍.
Based on your statement and reading of the news release, the purchasing entity bought the assets of Ontario Knife Company. That’s a totally different transaction than purchase of the company.
They bought the company, then the assets.
If you bought the company you own the assets. How many companies have you been involved in buying?none is my guess.
@dwainsw4076
No
All of this info is public and easy to find.
As of April 2024.. nothing from BRKC on OKC.
Yeah it's a bummer!!!
I stripped a 2022 Ontario RAT 5 yesterday and wish I had not. The entire handle edge and spine were so rough cut that it looked terrible. Also, the paint stripper took off all trace of the name and model.
What did you expect with the name and model? It's not etched into the blade. You can easily fix the rough cut edge and spine. Stop crying.
I was just preparing to get a Tak 1 cause of this happening.
Now I'm wondering if I should still buy one or wait too see if they improve?
Honestly the way things happen usually leaving the USA after being bought up. I want a USA made tak1 but I don't need another knife . ...
Probably gonna sale my Benchmade Bushcrafter and some other blades. I'd rather have carbon steel , 1095hc or 5160 I'm really sick of super steels.
It's REALLY hard to say at this point. It wouldn't hurt to grab one just in case (aren't they usually D2?) but you might get a factory second (or third) that is a turd anyways which idk if that would be worth it 🤷♂️
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Tak 1 is 1095hc, they did make a D2 years ago wish I had nabbed one back then.
I love making their blades my own, they almost always need reprofiled so unless there is a major defect I'm cool with a wobbly edge...Easy fix 😉
@@Airik1111bibles good deal!
Sweet.
I wish queen would come back. 1985 first knife I bought with my own money.
That would be cool!!!
Plz offer some facts about the contracts and prices
How are earth do you think I would get that information-
And to what end?
Initially, we were led to believe manufacturing was brimg moved and those employees were all losing their jobs. Is it safe to say that isn't the case now?
That was my impression but I don't know yet that anything is certain.
I'm waiting on another update.
They won't honor the lifetime ontario warranty. Guess they just bought they name.
If they don't want to go out of business (a business in which the brand was known for defective products) they can't honor the previous brands warranty.
You just rekindled an american brand that was good at some point but then went to piss. Are you going to invest about 6 million dollars in the equipment and tooling making it all from scratch to remake their existing models which were unprofitable just to replace those models which were purchased with money you never saw?
Did Harley honor the warranty given by AMF when every Harley on the road was known as a total pos and the new brand had to make a totally new bike from the ground up?
A lifetime warranty is only good for the company behind it. The new OKC will be exactly that- a new OKC.
Yes, they bought the name.
Lord willing with that name somebody will be making awesome American made knives with their own lifetime warranty.
Hoping the new brand will warranty the pos $50 knife that you bought a decade or two before hand is childish.
I live by there so there going to stay. And ya servotronics sucky.