Yep. They’re interested in swapping out parts for quick insurance money. I tried to get a truck with little rust and minimal dents re painted. None of my local shops would fool with it or wanted a ridiculous price to cover what they would miss doing collision repair.
I watched your video just before I replaced my GMC Sierra rocker panels and lower cab corners; to see the correct way to do the job and build up my confidence. Space between the rear of the cab and the bed was too narrow to MIG weld, so I cheated. Did not want to remove the bed to facilitate welding. I welded what I could around the rear of the cab corner, then used adhesive to hold the sheet metal together. I feathered the edge with some bondo to blend it in. Not perfect but good enough for a 17 year old work truck. My neighbors were wowed. More importantly my wife thinks it looks great. It is infinitely better than it was.
That is a great video! These rockers are so common to rust out. I think every DIY garage guy would double his repair confidence level by watching this tutorial. The used motor oil or a fluid film type product is the key to making it last!! Thank you!!
@@andylong5432 Thanks for the idea Andy. For some reason the oil thinned with mineral spirits sounds flammable but I can spray it on a scrap piece of metal and literally hit it with a torch and it doesn't light up. I'll try your recipe one time and see how it goes :)
That's real talent. I was fascinated watching this guy take care of what is the scourge of every vehicle owner in New England. I wish I knew someone like this locally.
Pretty nice, I did both sides on my 2003 f150 supercrew and almost the same process but I used my dremel for the seem cuts, it makes a pencil tip cut and very thin to fill. But when I fitted the new to the old one I used magnetic tape, 3 pieces. 1 for each end and 1 in the middle. It contors to the piece and no mistakes can be made. Came out perfect. I took lots of pics but I should made a video. Each side took 1 weekend. And used Eastwood products for sealing inside n out
I just got a 2004 Excursion from Minnesota delivered today. Bought it sight unseen. Well, the pics didnt show the rocker panels rusted up pretty bad, just like the ones in your video. I was pretty upset when I first saw it. I've been watching videos all day and at 3AM, I come across yours. Well Sir, you make it look easy. I dont have a shop, but im pretty handy with the tools i have and after watching your video, im pretty sure I can give it a go. So thank you very much for the video. I will save it to come back to when Im ready. Much appreciated! liked and subscribed!
Thanks for subscribing. I have a lot of rust repair videos - ruclips.net/p/PLOP9eoG14-I-qu68_805bZaOnmkdlv6Ys Feel free to ask ?s if you have 'em. Jerry
Great video! I am the proud original owner of my 99 F150 that hasn't a scratch on it but has the dreaded rocker panel rot. I'm planning to do outer and inner rockers and the front lower patch panels on the bed for a rust free truck once again. Next year it qualifies for historic plates and it will be the nicest 99 on the northern Michigan roads!
Thanks for sharing your skills and time. Rockers are always a challenge to fit properly. You aced this one. Wishing you and Yours the best of the season.
Keep up the cracking videos these skills need passed on as more people need too be saving old cars as new electric ones are garbage! Miss my days restoring old classic minis!
Thanks for the comment - like that word "cracking". You're right about the electric cars - seems far fetched to me - like the driverless cars. An engineer for Delphi told me in 2012 that we were going to be driverless by 2018 😄😄😄
Thanks! 👍 Yes replacement panels are nice. When I worked at my first job we never got to use replacement panels. Everything was made by hand like you said - or with filler :)
This is great. I just did a complete frame off resto to my 96 Dakota bumper to bumper, looks brand new now. Body work, which it doesn't need much at all, I won't attempt. That's definitely not my cup of tea. If I can find someone around here who does a hell of a job like you, I'll gladly pay them.
I like those old Dakotas - real tough, good looking trucks. Good luck and let me know when it's finished - would love to see some pictures. schoolvideolibrary at gmail dot com - Jerry
Excellent video again! Just brilliant! I love the way you're videos are to the point easy to understand, see what you're doing well explained not overly drawn out but have all the details you need at the same time! Spot on! Cheers from London England 👍😎🏴
I saw you semi butt weld like Eastwood’s crimper players and it seams to me a good alternative to a true but weld. I would like to see a video on how to stabilize the rust between panels and how to blend seam sealer in roof gutters? Thanks for the video.
Hi Jerry! I took note of that Mill Supply company where you got the replacement rocker. The local place where I used to order panels did a "restructuring" thing (pre-covid) and their prices have skyrocketed. Noticed you're using some Bench Mark Abrasives. I've been trying them too. Used a 40 grit flap disc to sharpen 3 beat up mower blades yesterday. I will easily get the other 3 done today with the same disc. Seems to be good stuff! I may try some of their resin fiber discs next
I love their stuff - good quality, fast shipping , reasonable price. Merry Christmas my friend and thanks for always watching and supporting - really appreciate it :)
Gotta do this on my 07 f150. Canadian winter are tough on vehicles. Finding panels to cut in are tough and $$. Wish u were my neighbor. Ha. Thanks jerry
Thanks my friend. Here's the playlist for that truck - there's some good videos on hand made bed panels. I will be doing preformed bed panels on this truck soon too. It needs a couple more spots fixed :) ruclips.net/p/PLOP9eoG14-I_5orQdo3G4zEQPXmCkaK4K
Just got through removing my drivers side rocker on the jeep. Lots of spot welds to drill… and about half we’re gone since the bottom of the inner and outer panels have already gone to be with the Lord. It’s tedious and time consuming. The little spot weld cutters from harbor freight go fairly quickly. I used 4 on the side. I’m thinking I’ll be back in there soon to do the inner panel and floor pans. It’s kind of therapeutic!
You certainly know what you're doing you made it look so easy. I did four rocker panels on both my cars and it certainly wasn't this easy course I'm not a professional body man.
The 2005 Ram has the rocker panels hidden under the closed doors which is awesome. What's not awesome was stamped manufacturing holes in the steel on the inside rockers which they covered with tape! the tape let loose over the years allowing water, ice and salt to rot it. Since the outside rockers look good my temporary fix was lots of scraping/removal/sanding and rust-oleum rust reformer and taped the backside with gorilla tape.....left the drip holes open. It actually looks pretty darn good for a temporary fix. I may buy the inside rocker kit and that's why I'm here. Still haven't installed my wheel wells...After Christmas ;)
@@victorrodrigues1101 You can do either - it is up to you. What ever is more efficient and the best quality for the situation. This video may help with that decision - ruclips.net/video/JIIonJOVro4/видео.html
SUBSCRIBED! The more I'm recollecting the damage on my 1999 Toyota Solara: rust is on What's called the "Hinge Pillar". The hinge pillars are approximately the first sixth of the rocker panel length. It is also a discontinued part. Is there some flat stock that could build up that part on the car where the jack stand would go: right where the checkstand pinchweld is it's just collapsed inward and upward.
Great video , thanks for sharing. I have some rusted out rocker panels on 2014 Ram . I took it to a body shop to get an estimate to have it repaired . The owner told me it wasn’t worth it fixing or replacing the rocker panels . And it was too much labor . They would have to take the box off the truck to replace the panels .
Your not concerned with the weld not going all the way across? Is that not really needed? I always worry about any little pin holes! Thanks for all your videos I learn a lot from you!
Not concerned at all. From my experience, the only place this rocker panel will begin to rust again is at the very bottom where water and moisture will gather. If you allow the rocker to drain well and squirt some old motor oil inside after you paint to coat that lower pinch weld, you'll be fine. Don't worry about putting the welds right on top of each other - if the patch is going to rust again it will start at the bottom not a seam up higher unless the panel can't drain and fills with wet debris, leaves, dirt, etc. Hope that helps a bit - Jerry
I was going to ask the same question, good point about it rotting bottom up. How about strength though? Any real difference between spots and continues weld?
@@Squintanditsmint The spot welds will be plenty strong. I don't think there would be any reason to try a continuous weld anywhere on the panel. Hope I answered your ? - if not ask again - Jerry
Always injoy waching your videos I have been watching your channal for some time now you give good information and keep it simple glad I was recommended your channal by farraway thank you jerry for giving me that confident stay safe
Hey Husky it's been real nice knowing you for that time too - a real pleasure reading your comments. That's very cool of Farraway to recommend the channel too - I'll have to thank them. Happy New Year my friend :)
Awesome! I like the use of the sand blaster on the welds! I notice sometimes you lap weld and sometimes you will butt weld. Is there times where one is preferred of another? I just found that you have a video on that! You have great stuff!
In the body shops I've worked at most guys would butt weld on areas that can't be tapped down and filled i.e. door edges, rigid rocker panels, a,b,c pillars, etc. In the wide open areas that can be tapped down and filled we lapped 😊
How do you keep the lap welds from rusting on the inside of the rocker panels. If you treat it with oil, how many times a year do you need to treat it? Thanks
Thanks for providing this video. I am learning how to tackle my project with a car. I am thinking about taking out my rocker panels. I wonder if it's possible to use hack saw? Even if it takes longer. I am a little nervous about using circular saw. One time I had a piece of jig saw fly over by my head when I installed my cabinets. I like to do things safely.
You can use a hack saw - yes. You can even use a sawzall - think that's how you spell it :) What ever you have that will cut metal - just be safe like you said. Safety glasses and gloves - sorry about the late reply - Jerry
It's actually better to treat the repair for rust after all the work is done. There will be bare metal spots around the weld when using that type of primer. See this video for an easier and longer lasting solution. ruclips.net/video/8XaZBy7GC7A/видео.html
Yes - thank you for reminding me - been so crazy busy lately. That's a good thing I guess - keeps you out of trouble. Merry Christmas to you and your family too GM. Always good to hear from you. I do have the POR15 ready to go. I'll use it on the inner rocker panel on the other side of this truck and make a video - Jerry
Excellent work Jerry that was a crusty one! I like that air hammer chisel you were using, there is a Mac Tools guy just a few block from me...I think I'll pay him a visit! 🙂
the only problem I saw was the use of undercoating which will actually hasten rusting of the new piece. I would have painted it internally with a rustoleum paint, then coated it it inside and out with NH Oil.
4:13 install rockers they said ,it'll be fun they said. Until I got em off and the metal they attached to was just as rusty 😂 That's when I learned about CAD design and some flat sheet metal to replace the rusty stuff with so I could put the rocker on 😂 Came out decent. The other side isn't as bad , that can wait another year or 2 as it's not used in bad weather. I like doing this stuff, I havent mastered or felt comfortable doing the final finish stuff quite yet and I'm probably 1/10 the speed of a real pro.
Skip the undercoating, in my experience (and many others'), it'll trap moisture. Clean everything up with a good rust dissolver and put on a couple coats of epoxy. Same thing for the inside of the rocker where you won't be welding. Weld thru primer where you're going to weld is your call. Seems to be a 50/50 on that one.
I'd have to see it but I'm thinking you could cut that part out, save the part that the threads are on, weld that to new sheet metal and weld that home made part in. Hope that made sense - have a good weekend Tim :)
I only work on my own clean title repairable vehicles or rusty vehicles that I will flip. Actually can't work on "customer" vehicles as the neighborhood has a keen eye on me 🥴
I don't but one thing to remember is that almost all rocker replacement is the same. So by watching this video, you should have a really good idea of what has to be done with any rocker repair :)
Thanks. See our R/H rocker panel forward end, area of cowl panel and rocker panel is badly corroded. I’ve cut the rotted rocker area and used the rocker panel aft of the door hinge to shape an 18 gage piece and trimmed it to fit the removed rotted area. However the fit is not perfect but I’ll be able to weld it into place (I hope.) As your experience probably has shown you these model trucks all corrode badly in that area.
I think this is a great video and thanks. Since I don’t know a thing about this (not ever doing it) I would have liked to see how you did the underbody fill in or is it just something you figure out as you’re going? Again Thanks, Steve
@@Steve-cs3tt Got it. Check this video out as the inner rocker panel was repaired in a very similar way - ruclips.net/video/92mr0C62tq0/видео.html Happy New Year Steve - nice talking to you :)
@LakesideAutobody thank you for responding, i appreciate that.Both of mine need to be done. Might not be worth it for my 12 year old 150 that's gonna need a few other things for my Pennsylvania inspection.
Here's the same rocker done with glue - ruclips.net/video/W9czvb2rFqY/видео.html I sure you could use 3M panel adhesive too - even JB Weld - ruclips.net/video/wRl1QfkrBeY/видео.html - this repair is still good today :)
Do you play the guitar music at the beginning of the videos? Anyway, between you and FItzee I've been brave enough to do the rocker panels, 2 door bottoms, and cab corners on my 2005 Silverado. You have a great channel here and I really like watching all the tips, tricks, and procedures you cover. Thanks a lot for all the help and Merry Christmas.
@@mccoyji Here's just a few - there's more info in the rust repair playlist - ruclips.net/video/d21RkqTwRqs/видео.html ** ruclips.net/video/aSVkIDWHrGk/видео.html ** ruclips.net/video/92mr0C62tq0/видео.html ** ruclips.net/video/fSTkMkPryPQ/видео.html ** ruclips.net/video/y05dNxt-nVc/видео.html
Great video! So disappointing that they build these this way. My 2012 expedition is disintegrating. Has about an inch and a half of mud inside the rockers. This is outside what I can do but know I know what to ask to make sure all this is done! The rear wheel wells are not great either
It's disgusting that the car co's don't engineer the vehicles to resist rust better. One of the main ways would be to allow for decent drainage even a plug on both ends of the rocker so you can run a hose through there after the winter. Drainage is key and being able to access those cavities conveniently would be great help in keeping cars from rusting so much :)
@@LakesideAutobody is there anything that can be done while installing the replacements to keep that build up from happening? Maybe some access holes or drain spots so the inside could be flushed out and /or coated with something? Thanks!
Here's a video that can explain it much better than I can here - ruclips.net/video/JIIonJOVro4/видео.html Most professional body shops that still do rust in MI lap weld areas that can be tapped down and filled and butt weld where they can't like rigid areas - rockers, edges, door jambs, etc :)
Here's my thoughts on butt vs lap - ruclips.net/video/JIIonJOVro4/видео.html I have never used the silicon-bronze mig welding. Although my dad in his day would braze patches and he did really well with that method. It was pretty common back in the 50's and 60's I think - then came fiberglass cloth and eventually MIG.
@@LakesideAutobody Great discussion of Lap vs Butt in the link! Back in the day everything was done oxy-acetylene and unless you had great skill, you could not manage the distortion of welding - so some people brazed w/ o-a. The SiBr MIG brazing is pretty wild. It's more likely to be watertight and there is much less heat distortion. I've got some Ford Escape dog legs and wheel arches to do and think I'm going SiBr. I also have rockers and not sure about that one.
@@NoferTrunions Thanks for the information NT - I'll look into it - I like the watertight seem 👍 Let me know how it works out for you if you do that :)
Very informative and well done. I would greatly appreciate your thoughts: why did you choose 3M undercoating versus epoxy primer before installing the new panel? Thank you.
That step is completely up to the individual. You can even leave it bare - see this video as to why it really doesn't matter - ruclips.net/video/8XaZBy7GC7A/видео.html The key to a panel never rusting again is good drainage and a greasy film along the pinch weld at the bottom :)
So for protection on future rust i see people put weld primer or some sort of primer than paint or use a undercoating like yourself what would you recommend is better i need help before i buy some 😅
The only thing you need to stop future rust is make sure the panel can drain and dry out inside - even add drain holes if needed - and this - ruclips.net/video/8XaZBy7GC7A/видео.html Watch this too if you're interested - ruclips.net/video/y05dNxt-nVc/видео.html
Too many body shop focus on collision work and miss out on helping customers keep their vehicles in service longer. Great content again.
Thanks 👍 You're right - not many shops will do this type of work anymore :)
Yep. They’re interested in swapping out parts for quick insurance money. I tried to get a truck with little rust and minimal dents re painted. None of my local shops would fool with it or wanted a ridiculous price to cover what they would miss doing collision repair.
Helping doesn't keep business doors open
I watched your video just before I replaced my GMC Sierra rocker panels and lower cab corners; to see the correct way to do the job and build up my confidence. Space between the rear of the cab and the bed was too narrow to MIG weld, so I cheated. Did not want to remove the bed to facilitate welding. I welded what I could around the rear of the cab corner, then used adhesive to hold the sheet metal together. I feathered the edge with some bondo to blend it in. Not perfect but good enough for a 17 year old work truck. My neighbors were wowed. More importantly my wife thinks it looks great. It is infinitely better than it was.
You're the man! That's great to hear. With a little practice here and there, you'll always have nice vehicles. Thanks for the story Mr. Frank.
Best part is its probably paid off too
Love your videos. As a driveway DIY'er , you've given me a lot of confidence that this kind of work is doable. Thanks. JG
Thanks Jay - glad you like the videos my friend. Have a good weekend :)
That is a great video! These rockers are so common to rust out. I think every DIY garage guy would double his repair confidence level by watching this tutorial. The used motor oil or a fluid film type product is the key to making it last!!
Thank you!!
You're welcome Chris - you're right about the fluid film - looking for a way to thin that fluid film to spray it - got any ideas?
@@LakesideAutobody I’ve been using the bar and chain oil and a touch of diesel fuel to thin it. Got that idea from mustie1. Also great videos
@@andylong5432 Thanks for the idea Andy. For some reason the oil thinned with mineral spirits sounds flammable but I can spray it on a scrap piece of metal and literally hit it with a torch and it doesn't light up. I'll try your recipe one time and see how it goes :)
@@LakesideAutobody have you tried warming the oil before spraying to thin it. Seems like that would work well.
@@dp1381 I haven't but I'll give it a try one time - it'd be nice if it worked :)
This is the exact video I needed, going to do the rockers on my 2000 F150 in the spring.
Thanks for all the helpful tips....we males love visual aids.
You're welcome - feel free to ask any ?s when you get started :)
@user-it2cs6hq2y how did it go for you? Also planning on doing this on my 08 f150 i just bought off someone that has some rusty rockers.
I was going to ask how the replacement went also. I need to replace both sides, inner and outer rockers on my 99 F 150.
That's real talent. I was fascinated watching this guy take care of what is the scourge of every vehicle owner in New England. I wish I knew someone like this locally.
Thanks Bruce. The car companies sure are glad there is snow 😊
Amazed you got that off without removing the bed
It’s great learning a lot when I help my husband in the shop
Pretty nice, I did both sides on my 2003 f150 supercrew and almost the same process but I used my dremel for the seem cuts, it makes a pencil tip cut and very thin to fill. But when I fitted the new to the old one I used magnetic tape, 3 pieces. 1 for each end and 1 in the middle. It contors to the piece and no mistakes can be made. Came out perfect. I took lots of pics but I should made a video. Each side took 1 weekend. And used Eastwood products for sealing inside n out
Sounds like it turned out real nice. Those rockers didn't drain too well and rusted out quick. Have a good weekend :)
@@LakesideAutobody I used Eastwood Por-15 and coated rockers inside n out, that stuff hardens like a rock
@@bbcala9719 Thanks for that info Bb :)
I have no plans on doing a rocker panel replacement anytime soon but I found this video very interesting.
That's good to hear my friend - have a good weekend :)
Great video! Even though there are thousands of us out here who simply want you to perform this transformation on our trucks.
Thanks Doc K - Happy 🎄🎅🎉's
I just got a 2004 Excursion from Minnesota delivered today. Bought it sight unseen. Well, the pics didnt show the rocker panels rusted up pretty bad, just like the ones in your video. I was pretty upset when I first saw it. I've been watching videos all day and at 3AM, I come across yours. Well Sir, you make it look easy. I dont have a shop, but im pretty handy with the tools i have and after watching your video, im pretty sure I can give it a go. So thank you very much for the video. I will save it to come back to when Im ready. Much appreciated! liked and subscribed!
Thanks for subscribing. I have a lot of rust repair videos - ruclips.net/p/PLOP9eoG14-I-qu68_805bZaOnmkdlv6Ys Feel free to ask ?s if you have 'em. Jerry
@@LakesideAutobody thank you, I'll check them all out.
Great video! I am the proud original owner of my 99 F150 that hasn't a scratch on it but has the dreaded rocker panel rot. I'm planning to do outer and inner rockers and the front lower patch panels on the bed for a rust free truck once again. Next year it qualifies for historic plates and it will be the nicest 99 on the northern Michigan roads!
If I see one that's perfect up here (northern MI) - it just might be you :) What color?
@@LakesideAutobody It's that sky blue Teal that was on the 99-2000 trucks. Looks sharp even when dirty which it never is...
I'm impressed with the panel fit, too.
It worked out well - thanks for checking it out :)
Outstanding. From what I gather not an easy job that just anybody can do. Looks as good as factory & in reality its probably better. Keep em coming!
Thanks my friend - I appreciate the support. Always good to hear from you - have a good weekend :)
What he does in a day would take me months! But now I know how if I ever want to take this on. Thanks Jerry!
You're welcome JW - glad you enjoyed it. Have a good end of the week :)
Looks great! Now you just need too do the rest of the rusty old Ford. Really enjoy your videos! Thumbs up! 👍
Thanks 👍 my 357 - glad you like them - have a good weekend :)
Thanks for sharing your skills and time. Rockers are always a challenge to fit properly. You aced this one. Wishing you and Yours the best of the season.
Happy Holidays to you and your family too Ray Bann - glad you liked the video and you're welcome :)
Sweet job! Fine craftsmanship, as always. Thanks for showing us how it’s done.
Thanks Fireship1 - always good to hear from you my friend :)
Keep up the cracking videos these skills need passed on as more people need too be saving old cars as new electric ones are garbage! Miss my days restoring old classic minis!
Thanks for the comment - like that word "cracking". You're right about the electric cars - seems far fetched to me - like the driverless cars. An engineer for Delphi told me in 2012 that we were going to be driverless by 2018 😄😄😄
Almost like you 'd done that once er twice !!
Nice Work sir !
Thanks my friend :)
👍🏻Nice Job!!! You have to love replacement panels. Most of the stuff I do there is no replacement panel and everything has to be fabricated.
Thanks! 👍 Yes replacement panels are nice. When I worked at my first job we never got to use replacement panels. Everything was made by hand like you said - or with filler :)
I’ve done some of these,Dril 3/8 holes on tha lip,clamp it,then weld holes up !
Great job Jerry you make it simple and easy enough for anyone to follow and do!
Thanks UPK - Have a good weekend my friend :)
@@LakesideAutobody have a good weekend Jerry!
Great job! I have trimmed ends down at a angle if old metal was solid, made easier with door on for a chevy
Thanks for the support and tips David - Happy Holidays to you and your family :)
This is great. I just did a complete frame off resto to my 96 Dakota bumper to bumper, looks brand new now. Body work, which it doesn't need much at all, I won't attempt. That's definitely not my cup of tea. If I can find someone around here who does a hell of a job like you, I'll gladly pay them.
I like those old Dakotas - real tough, good looking trucks. Good luck and let me know when it's finished - would love to see some pictures. schoolvideolibrary at gmail dot com - Jerry
Excellent video again! Just brilliant! I love the way you're videos are to the point easy to understand, see what you're doing well explained not overly drawn out but have all the details you need at the same time! Spot on!
Cheers from London England 👍😎🏴
Thanks so much A BC. That means a lot to me actually. Cheers to you from Lake St Helen, Michigan :)
Awesome job and two thumbs up on the used motor oil rustproofing. 👍👍
Thanks RJB - Happy Holidays to you and your family :)
Nice repair Jerry! 👍
I never have an easy time getting dark metallics like that to blend in well.
Have a good weekend and a Merry Christmas. 🎄
Hope you have a good Christmas too Jim - thanks for the support as always :)
Beautiful - work of art.
Thanks Bruce - have a good weekend - Happy Easter :)
I saw you semi butt weld like Eastwood’s crimper players and it seams to me a good alternative to a true but weld. I would like to see a video on how to stabilize the rust between panels and how to blend seam sealer in roof gutters? Thanks for the video.
Great video it helps me learn tricks i have saved ton s doing
My own work really
Enjoy !
That's great to hear Jim - makes my day. Happy Holidays and have a good weekend :)
Great informative in-depth video Jerry, one job that needs time and patience not for the faint hearted , thanks for sharing your knowledge 👍🏻
Thanks for the support V8man - have a good weekend and Christmas :)
@@LakesideAutobody many happy returns to you stay safe. 👍🏻
Hi Jerry! I took note of that Mill Supply company where you got the replacement rocker. The local place where I used to order panels did a "restructuring" thing (pre-covid) and their prices have skyrocketed.
Noticed you're using some Bench Mark Abrasives. I've been trying them too. Used a 40 grit flap disc to sharpen 3 beat up mower blades yesterday. I will easily get the other 3 done today with the same disc. Seems to be good stuff! I may try some of their resin fiber discs next
I love their stuff - good quality, fast shipping , reasonable price. Merry Christmas my friend and thanks for always watching and supporting - really appreciate it :)
Excellent work, terrific communication skills, wonderful video footage. That's a nice color truck by the way.
I'm working on it for a friend. It only has 62,000 miles on it :)
So glad I found your channel. You are awesome
Thanks for the support Philip - glad you found it too :)
Nice, another sweet job.
Thanks Douglas :)
Very nice Jerry. You did a great job of showing how to do it right.
Thanks 👍
Gotta do this on my 07 f150. Canadian winter are tough on vehicles. Finding panels to cut in are tough and $$. Wish u were my neighbor. Ha. Thanks jerry
You're welcome Darren. The salt on these winter roads really kills a nice truck for sure.
Great work brother.
Thanks my friend :)
Dude...Thank you. I'm not a body fender guy but this video gives me the confidence that I can get this done. Subscribed. Now how about the bed panels?
Thanks my friend. Here's the playlist for that truck - there's some good videos on hand made bed panels. I will be doing preformed bed panels on this truck soon too. It needs a couple more spots fixed :) ruclips.net/p/PLOP9eoG14-I_5orQdo3G4zEQPXmCkaK4K
Great video. Most vehicles today, the drivetrain lasts longer than the body.
That's very true - 200K is the new norm really but not for the body.
Good information
Thanks
Just got through removing my drivers side rocker on the jeep. Lots of spot welds to drill… and about half we’re gone since the bottom of the inner and outer panels have already gone to be with the Lord. It’s tedious and time consuming. The little spot weld cutters from harbor freight go fairly quickly. I used 4 on the side. I’m thinking I’ll be back in there soon to do the inner panel and floor pans. It’s kind of therapeutic!
It is very therapeutic. I don't mind drilling out welds. It's nice when the panel finally falls off 👍
You certainly know what you're doing you made it look so easy.
I did four rocker panels on both my cars and it certainly wasn't this easy course I'm not a professional body man.
The 2005 Ram has the rocker panels hidden under the closed doors which is awesome. What's not awesome was stamped manufacturing holes in the steel on the inside rockers which they covered with tape! the tape let loose over the years allowing water, ice and salt to rot it. Since the outside rockers look good my temporary fix was lots of scraping/removal/sanding and rust-oleum rust reformer and taped the backside with gorilla tape.....left the drip holes open. It actually looks pretty darn good for a temporary fix. I may buy the inside rocker kit and that's why I'm here. Still haven't installed my wheel wells...After Christmas ;)
Interesting - thanks for your input WKW - letting it drain and dry out is the key for sure. Have a good Christmas my friend :)
Love these videos and the fact that all the tools and material are listed in description. 💯
Glad you like them Redd - have a good weekend my friend :)
Awesome camera work on the spot weld close ups! Im sure that is very time consuming getting them shots? Great work making it all look easy 👍
Thanks for the nice comment Jason :)
Lap weld. Love it
Weld, lightly grind. Love it.
Tap down and fill. Love it.
Thanks PSG - you really are catching up on your YT watching - I gotta get over to your channel - been watching too much football :)
@@LakesideAutobody Yes. I am !
What is the benefit of using a lap weld here and not a butt weld? Would that not mess with the body lines?
@@victorrodrigues1101 You can do either - it is up to you. What ever is more efficient and the best quality for the situation. This video may help with that decision - ruclips.net/video/JIIonJOVro4/видео.html
Oh…by the way. I like your new company logos. They look like old patches we used to sew 🧵 on our Jean jackets 🧥 and such. Very cool look. 👍👍
Thanks a lot - I'm glad to hear it - trying to get some hats and t's soon :)
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The more I'm recollecting the damage on my 1999 Toyota Solara: rust is on What's called the "Hinge Pillar". The hinge pillars are approximately the first sixth of the rocker panel length. It is also a discontinued part.
Is there some flat stock that could build up that part on the car where the jack stand would go: right where the checkstand pinchweld is it's just collapsed inward and upward.
Great video , thanks for sharing. I have some rusted out rocker panels on 2014 Ram . I took it to a body shop to get an estimate to have it repaired . The owner told me it wasn’t worth it fixing or replacing the rocker panels . And it was too much labor . They would have to take the box off the truck to replace the panels .
Yeah - most shops avoid rust repairs. You're welcome btw. Have a great week :)
Always love to see what you are working on!
Glad to hear it Daniel - Happy Holidays to you and your family - Jerry
Beautiful job well done
Thanks Ed - Merry Christmas 🎄
Great video I really love using those Blair spot weld cutters pretty much have me spoiled lol.
Yes - that kit is much better than the cheaper Blair cutters with the little teeth. Those little guys are fragile :)
Excellent work. Makes me want a garage and compressor to do my truck right and get it done
Time to start panning for it :) Glad you like the work my friend - have a good weekend and Christmas :)
Very good job. thank;s Lots to learn.your a good teacher.
You are welcome - thanks for the support :)
Looks great
Thanks Plumbucket :)
Your not concerned with the weld not going all the way across?
Is that not really needed?
I always worry about any little pin holes!
Thanks for all your videos I learn a lot from you!
Not concerned at all. From my experience, the only place this rocker panel will begin to rust again is at the very bottom where water and moisture will gather. If you allow the rocker to drain well and squirt some old motor oil inside after you paint to coat that lower pinch weld, you'll be fine. Don't worry about putting the welds right on top of each other - if the patch is going to rust again it will start at the bottom not a seam up higher unless the panel can't drain and fills with wet debris, leaves, dirt, etc. Hope that helps a bit - Jerry
@@LakesideAutobody thanks a lot I really appreciate your videos and your insight!!!
@@andylong5432 You're welcome Andy :)
I was going to ask the same question, good point about it rotting bottom up. How about strength though? Any real difference between spots and continues weld?
@@Squintanditsmint The spot welds will be plenty strong. I don't think there would be any reason to try a continuous weld anywhere on the panel. Hope I answered your ? - if not ask again - Jerry
Always injoy waching your videos I have been watching your channal for some time now you give good information and keep it simple glad I was recommended your channal by farraway thank you jerry for giving me that confident stay safe
Hey Husky it's been real nice knowing you for that time too - a real pleasure reading your comments. That's very cool of Farraway to recommend the channel too - I'll have to thank them. Happy New Year my friend :)
Nice job Jerry.
Thanks Leigh - happy Holidays to you and your family :)
Great job. Thank you.
Bypassed all the interesting bits!
Hey Love these tutorial videos. You are a master craftsman.
Thanks Joseph - glad you like them :)
Great video as always
Thanks - enjoy the week my friend :)
Nice job!
Awesome! I like the use of the sand blaster on the welds! I notice sometimes you lap weld and sometimes you will butt weld. Is there times where one is preferred of another?
I just found that you have a video on that! You have great stuff!
In the body shops I've worked at most guys would butt weld on areas that can't be tapped down and filled i.e. door edges, rigid rocker panels, a,b,c pillars, etc. In the wide open areas that can be tapped down and filled we lapped 😊
@@LakesideAutobody thank you that helps. Keep up the great videos!
@@weloveups831 I appreciate the support WLU :)
How do you keep the lap welds from rusting on the inside of the rocker panels. If you treat it with oil, how many times a year do you need to treat it? Thanks
Nice job Jerry..it look great
Thanks Gary - have a good week :)
Great VIDJA’s ❤️🏴☠️🎥💯%👍🏻
Thanks for providing this video. I am learning how to tackle my project with a car. I am thinking about taking out my rocker panels. I wonder if it's possible to use hack saw? Even if it takes longer. I am a little nervous about using circular saw. One time I had a piece of jig saw fly over by my head when I installed my cabinets. I like to do things safely.
You can use a hack saw - yes. You can even use a sawzall - think that's how you spell it :) What ever you have that will cut metal - just be safe like you said. Safety glasses and gloves - sorry about the late reply - Jerry
@@LakesideAutobody Thanks alot for the reply. I watch alot of ur videos. Learned alot.
@@farasmaroge1465 You're welcome - ask as many ?s as you need - thanks for watching :)
you are the master as always great job
Thanks David - Happy Holidays my friend :)
Good info. Thanks brother.
You're welcome my friend - enjoy the rest of the week :)
Why not spray weldable primer behind that rocker where it’s completely bare steel?
It's actually better to treat the repair for rust after all the work is done. There will be bare metal spots around the weld when using that type of primer. See this video for an easier and longer lasting solution. ruclips.net/video/8XaZBy7GC7A/видео.html
Hi Jerry, great video, thank you for showing that. Still waiting for the por15 :) vid . Merry Christmas to you and the family
Yes - thank you for reminding me - been so crazy busy lately. That's a good thing I guess - keeps you out of trouble. Merry Christmas to you and your family too GM. Always good to hear from you. I do have the POR15 ready to go. I'll use it on the inner rocker panel on the other side of this truck and make a video - Jerry
You the man
Wow nice work!
Thanks Curtis - have a good weekend :)
Excellent work Jerry that was a crusty one!
I like that air hammer chisel you were using, there is a Mac Tools guy just a few block from me...I think I'll pay him a visit! 🙂
Yep - if you buy it from Matco, Mac or Snap-on it'll last forever :)
Nice job
the only problem I saw was the use of undercoating which will actually hasten rusting of the new piece. I would have painted it internally with a rustoleum paint, then coated it it inside and out with NH Oil.
4:13 install rockers they said ,it'll be fun they said.
Until I got em off and the metal they attached to was just as rusty 😂
That's when I learned about CAD design and some flat sheet metal to replace the rusty stuff with so I could put the rocker on 😂
Came out decent.
The other side isn't as bad , that can wait another year or 2 as it's not used in bad weather.
I like doing this stuff, I havent mastered or felt comfortable doing the final finish stuff quite yet and I'm probably 1/10 the speed of a real pro.
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Skip the undercoating, in my experience (and many others'), it'll trap moisture. Clean everything up with a good rust dissolver and put on a couple coats of epoxy. Same thing for the inside of the rocker where you won't be welding. Weld thru primer where you're going to weld is your call. Seems to be a 50/50 on that one.
👍😊 - thanks for your input Kelly
I always enjoy watching your videos my son's supercab rocker is starting to go mostly where the doors latch any ideas on reinforcing that area
I'd have to see it but I'm thinking you could cut that part out, save the part that the threads are on, weld that to new sheet metal and weld that home made part in. Hope that made sense - have a good weekend Tim :)
Thank you for some advice
good Job Jerry
Hey Gary! Great to hear from you. Must be messing around on that new computer. Got 15 Nattys in the fridge just calling your name :)
@@LakesideAutobody I got 8 16ozers just waiting for You Big boy! LOL
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Hi! That was a great work! Can I bring my Lincoln Navigator to you?
I only work on my own clean title repairable vehicles or rusty vehicles that I will flip. Actually can't work on "customer" vehicles as the neighborhood has a keen eye on me 🥴
Thank you man
You're welcome :)
Do you happen to have video for 1948 - 1952 rocker panel replacement or repairs?
I don't but one thing to remember is that almost all rocker replacement is the same. So by watching this video, you should have a really good idea of what has to be done with any rocker repair :)
Thanks. See our R/H rocker panel forward end, area of cowl panel and rocker panel is badly corroded. I’ve cut the rotted rocker area and used the rocker panel aft of the door hinge to shape an 18 gage piece and trimmed it to fit the removed rotted area. However the fit is not perfect but I’ll be able to weld it into place (I hope.) As your experience probably has shown you these model trucks all corrode badly in that area.
Very good video sir.
Thanks SS - have a good week :)
My 99ford ford f150 was so far gone I just bought a new truck 🙄 nice repair job
Yep my ‘99 owned since new just normal maintenance but the driver and passenger just disintegrated with rust out.
Hot damn awesome work!
Thanks :)
I think this is a great video and thanks. Since I don’t know a thing about this (not ever doing it) I would have liked to see how you did the underbody fill in or is it just something you figure out as you’re going?
Again Thanks,
Steve
What do you mean by underbody fill in? The body filler? The inner rocker panel? Let me know and I'll try to help - Jerry
It would be the inner rocker panel.
And the underbody fill in also.
Thanks
@@Steve-cs3tt Got it. Check this video out as the inner rocker panel was repaired in a very similar way - ruclips.net/video/92mr0C62tq0/видео.html Happy New Year Steve - nice talking to you :)
@@LakesideAutobody Thanks, now I’ve got it. Happy New Year to You All.
Thanks for showing the prosses. What does something like that cost
You're welcome - it depends a lot on each shop but right around 800-1000 per side 😊
@LakesideAutobody thank you for responding, i appreciate that.Both of mine need to be done. Might not be worth it for my 12 year old 150 that's gonna need a few other things for my Pennsylvania inspection.
Could you have installed the rocker with 3m 8115/6 adhesive? Thanks.
Here's the same rocker done with glue - ruclips.net/video/W9czvb2rFqY/видео.html I sure you could use 3M panel adhesive too - even JB Weld - ruclips.net/video/wRl1QfkrBeY/видео.html - this repair is still good today :)
Do you play the guitar music at the beginning of the videos?
Anyway, between you and FItzee I've been brave enough to do the rocker panels, 2 door bottoms, and cab corners on my 2005 Silverado.
You have a great channel here and I really like watching all the tips, tricks, and procedures you cover. Thanks a lot for all the help and Merry Christmas.
How about the lower door lip?
Any videos on that?
Great work BTW
Thanks JAI HD - the front door or the rear. What kind of video are you looking for?
@@LakesideAutobody the lip at the bottom of the door. Seems to rust fairly well. Do to water from rain and the salts.
Any videos on the lot?
@@mccoyji Here's just a few - there's more info in the rust repair playlist - ruclips.net/video/d21RkqTwRqs/видео.html ** ruclips.net/video/aSVkIDWHrGk/видео.html **
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Great video! So disappointing that they build these this way. My 2012 expedition is disintegrating. Has about an inch and a half of mud inside the rockers. This is outside what I can do but know I know what to ask to make sure all this is done! The rear wheel wells are not great either
It's disgusting that the car co's don't engineer the vehicles to resist rust better. One of the main ways would be to allow for decent drainage even a plug on both ends of the rocker so you can run a hose through there after the winter. Drainage is key and being able to access those cavities conveniently would be great help in keeping cars from rusting so much :)
@@LakesideAutobody is there anything that can be done while installing the replacements to keep that build up from happening? Maybe some access holes or drain spots so the inside could be flushed out and /or coated with something? Thanks!
great video one question why do you overlap and not butt weld
Here's a video that can explain it much better than I can here - ruclips.net/video/JIIonJOVro4/видео.html Most professional body shops that still do rust in MI lap weld areas that can be tapped down and filled and butt weld where they can't like rigid areas - rockers, edges, door jambs, etc :)
Any thoughts on 1) butt instead of lap welding OR 2) silicon-bronze MIG brazing?
Here's my thoughts on butt vs lap - ruclips.net/video/JIIonJOVro4/видео.html I have never used the silicon-bronze mig welding. Although my dad in his day would braze patches and he did really well with that method. It was pretty common back in the 50's and 60's I think - then came fiberglass cloth and eventually MIG.
@@LakesideAutobody Great discussion of Lap vs Butt in the link! Back in the day everything was done oxy-acetylene and unless you had great skill, you could not manage the distortion of welding - so some people brazed w/ o-a. The SiBr MIG brazing is pretty wild. It's more likely to be watertight and there is much less heat distortion. I've got some Ford Escape dog legs and wheel arches to do and think I'm going SiBr. I also have rockers and not sure about that one.
@@NoferTrunions Thanks for the information NT - I'll look into it - I like the watertight seem 👍 Let me know how it works out for you if you do that :)
Very informative and well done. I would greatly appreciate your thoughts: why did you choose 3M undercoating versus epoxy primer before installing the new panel? Thank you.
That step is completely up to the individual. You can even leave it bare - see this video as to why it really doesn't matter - ruclips.net/video/8XaZBy7GC7A/видео.html The key to a panel never rusting again is good drainage and a greasy film along the pinch weld at the bottom :)
thank you
You're welcome :)
So for protection on future rust i see people put weld primer or some sort of primer than paint or use a undercoating like yourself what would you recommend is better i need help before i buy some 😅
The only thing you need to stop future rust is make sure the panel can drain and dry out inside - even add drain holes if needed - and this - ruclips.net/video/8XaZBy7GC7A/видео.html Watch this too if you're interested - ruclips.net/video/y05dNxt-nVc/видео.html
@@LakesideAutobody thanks I will add drain holes and finally use my used oil every year thanks 👍