I rode one of these at a Ducati event, on a small unpaved course. We were heavily nannied with the usual boring instructional moments on how to pick up dropped bikes etc so I didn’t get to properly send it. That said: it was super easy to handle in terms of steering, weight distribution, throttle response and it did effortless computer controlled powerslides and bunny hops on the stock Pirelli STR’s. Like you said: turning the rear with the throttle is very intuitive. I can’t get over how they managed to cram that demonic V4 into a chassis that feels so easy to handle. I know that engine from the Streetfighter V4S. My God. Face melting power. The fact that pretty much everyone can ride this is an amazing feat. The electronics are no longer an annoying add-on to keep you from hurting yourself and satisfy liability concerns; they integrate seamlessly into the riding experience. I will never be able to afford one which admittedly clouds my judgment. No one needs a 170hp adventure bike, or so I thought. I did try my very best to find fault….but 10/10 my body is ready - would ride Multistrada V4S.
Great review I love the music at the start. I think people forget Ducati is owned by the VW group now and the finishes, warranty and reliability have all improved since!
Awesome review. Thank you. I bought one a year ago. It’s absolutely the best bike I have ever owned. Pops a wheelie at 7500 rpm in 4th gear. I do have the full Acrapovic and Ducati tune. Bu it was in touring mode! Oh and temp was at 39F.
I love mine , I found on hard packed dirt road with lose stone the front was very flighty but that’s not what I bought it far . I bought it for the safety and enjoyment and the trill of the motor in a upright riding position.
Great video! Where was this test ride at, looks like lots of fun. I recently bought a Multi V4s and without a doubt think it's the best motorcycle I ever owned. The bike give me tons of confidence on the street at high speed twisties. The engine is to die for with that sound it makes when you get on it. The only downside I can find with the bike is the less than stellar gas mileage, but I didn't buy it to be riding conservatively. It is quite possibly the unicorn bike that does it all.
@@steve_kamrad5216 oh, you will. I put the full enduro and urban package on mine plus the keyless tank. Only thing left are the oversize footpegs... and as my ankle is still broken, SOMEONE has to ride her. :)
Each to their own, it does my head in on every car I've dricen with it and it would be a reason against me buying any car or bike that had it personally. I much prefer fixed cruise, adaptive has always been far too intrusive on me progressing through traffic. In terms of physics/traffic science adaptive cruise just excacerbates the accordion effect of traffic flow and overall reduced traffic mass flow (simplified - it's shit).
@@HoagesMoto fair enough. I find it much more relaxing to not have to worry about my speed even when the person in front of me is going slower than the limit.
@@HoagesMoto In terms of just driving and getting somewhere, adaptive on a car is fantastic. You can focus on the road, and not the speed variation due to the next hill, the next dip, the car in front slowing and speeding etc etc.
It’s not the economy that most complain about, it’s the range and some just wish that it had a bit more capacity. It took me a while to get that and now that I’ve been on some longer trips I can see where it could be useful in areas like out in the western US. Fuel stops can be few and far between so even if you plan properly it may cause you to take a different route or extra can of fuel. Not a deal breaker but could help the convenient factor.
@@revilok8698 me personally never came across a scenario where gas was not available out west but have Passed up a gas station when I shouldn't have. The slimmer tank is actually way more beneficial than the old 9 gallon tank. Besides you need water and a rest every 200 miles. My thing is asking for a bigger tank is like asking for a lower seat height... both make adventure bikes worse off-road.
It doesn’t have to be 9gal, at least 6 would be perfect. I can only get 170-180mi out of a tank and really that’s ok but if I could get to that 200mi point comfortably, that would be preferable. Not totally disagreeing with your point, merely stating another point of view that is also valid. I’ve been on a route taking 2 lane roads back from Sturgis that you could go 150mi without seeing a gas station. If you had filled up 40mi ago before starting that stretch some wouldn’t think to hit that last gas stop unless you just happen to know ahead of time. Like you say, you need to stop every 200mi or so so having a range of about 220mi would be perfect and worry free. You also can’t convince me that adding another gallon capacity to the overall tank size to make it 6.3 would be large enough that anyone could truly tell the difference between their legs. Just my 2 pennies
@@revilok8698 the Honda CRF1000 ATAS has a 6.8 vs 5.5 I think and it's horrible. In the way all the time. I'm pretty particular. I can feel a gallon of fuel in the tank, 2 clicks on suspension settings, it's why I'm testing bikes. You know preload and settings people rarely touch I dive into. If the tank was 6 gallons would you ask for 6.5? If it was 6.8 would you ask for 7.5? If it was 3.3 would you live with 4? All semantics at that point so I would just be cautious passing up a gas station
Two questions, one irrelevant to this vlogg. First, have you ridden the Tiger 1200? And the 2nd irrelevant one is about my 2022 Tiger 900’s rear brake. Long travel and a bit spongy. Have you messed with the pads? Would a metallic pad improve performance to any significant degree? Thanks for your time.
@@steve_kamrad5216 not a big deal but you said internal measurement unit. I knew what you meant. Great review of the bike! You pushed it hard! I’m (im)patiently waiting for the MTS V4 Rally to arrive.
@Thelnferno whelp I've been saying that wrong since day 1! Lol. Good catch. Almost as bad as when I was dampening instead of damping when I talk about suspension.
@@CurvedSlightly new bike: unlimited mileage warranty. Used bike: needs valve service. Home mechanic: I serviced my valves my self and the bike won't run right and it's out of warranty, I also don't trust dealers cause they won't guarantee to fix the problem.
This bike, the new V4S doesn’t have the dreaded Desmodromic valves, it has the conventional valve springs and valve check interval is at 60,000 kilometres. You read it right, 60,000 kilometres Cheers
As always, informative and entertaining content. Great chatting w you last week at DD Steve. So how do you compare the Duc with the Triumph Triple Rally?
I love the Ducati V4S but there is one big concern, the gas consumption.. Normally i dont care about that on a Bike but this is just sooo high it has to be considered when thinking of buying one.. About 30-40% higher than my R1250GS................ Still it is probably worth it.. :)
Just an FYI… The HD Pan America has zero valve clearance adjustment so it’s even better than the Ducati. The V4 has longer oil service intervals though. I absolutely love my V4S so this video is not just hype. It’s the real feeling most have after riding it.
If you plan on using this bike for more than 30k miles I would do oil changes every 6k miles if you use synthetic oil and more often if you lower grade.
@@marcinsmaga3441 these require specialized fully synthetic oil, Ducati wouldn't offer a warranty if their oil didn't hold up to 10k miles so I'm not really seeing your point. It's more of your opinion, which is totally fine and valid. I do oil usually every year on my lower mile bikes with 10k mile intervals. Some only see 600 race miles a year.
Oil change at 9k mile??? Do they use some magical oil in it?? Good luck with that. Will see how long the engine will last. Given that probably most first owners will not do more than 10k miles on before replacing with something else it should not be an issue for them... hahah
@@steve_kamrad5216 I do own a tiger xc 2012 (first gen) and it is 6K miles (10K kilometres). I use synthetic oil and usually last 1k miles I can tell it needs to be changed as gears do not go in as smoothly anymore. So far I did put in over 70K miles on it :) with no major issues. Last 4 years I did 60K of it. I know manufacturers do tell you that but, I don't think it is very good idea to do more than 6K miles without oil change, unless one doesn't care about longevity of the engine and gearbox.
@@marcinsmaga3441hmm 1k sounds really early. I had 27k on my tiger 800 xr almost 20k offroad at events and races. Might have bent the shifter forks? But yeah early oil changes are fine.
@@steve_kamrad5216 I meant that after doing 5k miles, 1k miles before planned oil changed I can tell it is already old and needs to be replaced. And I enjoy watching your videos ;)
Sorry Dude I don’t believe you. Too much, too heavily hyped. The brand is a BAD fit, never considered reliable. The bike can’t stand up…. Try it again…...Where is the dealership support?
Surprisingly robust, @bradley alexander. Ducati has the third largest dealer network, behind Harley and BMW as far as adventure bikes are concerned. I had issues (rarely) and once was doing a saddle sore where I needed service while riding in an unfamiliar area. Found a dealer, called, got accommodated, went on my way. I've had harder time finding emergency BMW work than Ducati. Again, personal experience which changes from person to person and repair to repair, but I haven't been stranded.
Don't think he's trying to make you 'believe', Steve's job is to provide his opinion on the bike - not really his problem if you don't like it haha. I mean he's ridden just about every adv bike on the market and rides them relatively quickly so no reason not to take his opinion as reasonably accurate. Dealership support? hahahaha yeah when I think of small time brands I think of Ducati, Yamaha, Triumph... :P Anyone that thinks any of the big time modern adv bikes are going to cover 100xxxkm's + without minor electrical gremlins, minor quality issues etc are kidding themselves they're highly complex machines and not 1995 dr650's. Anyone that thinks modern Ducati don't take build quality and assembly QA seriously on 25k (40k+ AUD) bikes is also kidding themselves. The whole point of this bike is to be 'too much' that's the idea - there has to be a ceiling in the market - good on ducati for demonstrating what they can build.
Spent a full 12 hour day with the bike. And a full press release before a presentation from the ceo and marketing team and engineers and a team of mechanics. 40x what anyone would get from a dealer. With a guided ride designed to test the limits and intended purposes of the bike both on and off road. With a fully pre-broken machine prepared as the manufacturer intended. Then tested by the world's leading and most trusted media outlets, and influential riders available. Full test? You bet!
I rode one of these at a Ducati event, on a small unpaved course. We were heavily nannied with the usual boring instructional moments on how to pick up dropped bikes etc so I didn’t get to properly send it. That said: it was super easy to handle in terms of steering, weight distribution, throttle response and it did effortless computer controlled powerslides and bunny hops on the stock Pirelli STR’s. Like you said: turning the rear with the throttle is very intuitive. I can’t get over how they managed to cram that demonic V4 into a chassis that feels so easy to handle. I know that engine from the Streetfighter V4S. My God. Face melting power. The fact that pretty much everyone can ride this is an amazing feat. The electronics are no longer an annoying add-on to keep you from hurting yourself and satisfy liability concerns; they integrate seamlessly into the riding experience. I will never be able to afford one which admittedly clouds my judgment. No one needs a 170hp adventure bike, or so I thought. I did try my very best to find fault….but 10/10 my body is ready - would ride Multistrada V4S.
Great review I love the music at the start. I think people forget Ducati is owned by the VW group now and the finishes, warranty and reliability have all improved since!
Yes! Absolutely true.
New sub. Good review. Mine is now almost 2 months old.
The blind spot detection is an amazing feature, much more than you can think.
Cheers
Awesome review. Thank you. I bought one a year ago. It’s absolutely the best bike I have ever owned. Pops a wheelie at 7500 rpm in 4th gear. I do have the full Acrapovic and Ducati tune. Bu it was in touring mode! Oh and temp was at 39F.
Best motorcycle I've ever had the privilege to ride and now own!
It's really that good
Great review!!!!
Thanks Steve - another great review!
Thank you!
Great video, great soundtrack.
Awesome & great review 👍
I love mine , I found on hard packed dirt road with lose stone the front was very flighty but that’s not what I bought it far . I bought it for the safety and enjoyment and the trill of the motor in a upright riding position.
Can't beat it for that
@@steve_kamrad5216 no I don't think you could
Great video! Where was this test ride at, looks like lots of fun. I recently bought a Multi V4s and without a doubt think it's the best motorcycle I ever owned. The bike give me tons of confidence on the street at high speed twisties. The engine is to die for with that sound it makes when you get on it. The only downside I can find with the bike is the less than stellar gas mileage, but I didn't buy it to be riding conservatively. It is quite possibly the unicorn bike that does it all.
Borrego springs CA! Outside Ocotillo wells
Have you come from the future?
Nice reality check on the intended use of what looks like a technical marvel👍
Well said
u need to make a side to side comparison with this one, desert x and desert sled haha. great review !!!
They are 2 massively different bikes so. The review is actually inside you, what do you want your adv bike to do for you.
Great video!!
Lol 6:13 u forgot to turn the gopro audio down?
Ditto.
Awesome videography!!!! Great review too
Thank you!
I ended up buying one, a Sport. You, as always, are always free to borrow it anytime you want.
I don't want to fall in love again!
@@steve_kamrad5216 oh, you will. I put the full enduro and urban package on mine plus the keyless tank. Only thing left are the oversize footpegs... and as my ankle is still broken, SOMEONE has to ride her. :)
Well said makes me want two
We are living in another golden age of motorcycling, the first being Steve McQueen.
Stoooop it!
@@steve_kamrad5216 😂
Boomers & Steve McQueen. 👀
I think anyone who says they dont need adaptive cruise control hasnt actually used it yet.
Each to their own, it does my head in on every car I've dricen with it and it would be a reason against me buying any car or bike that had it personally. I much prefer fixed cruise, adaptive has always been far too intrusive on me progressing through traffic. In terms of physics/traffic science adaptive cruise just excacerbates the accordion effect of traffic flow and overall reduced traffic mass flow (simplified - it's shit).
@@HoagesMoto fair enough. I find it much more relaxing to not have to worry about my speed even when the person in front of me is going slower than the limit.
@@HoagesMoto In terms of just driving and getting somewhere, adaptive on a car is fantastic. You can focus on the road, and not the speed variation due to the next hill, the next dip, the car in front slowing and speeding etc etc.
Everybody should stop complaining about fuel economy. It’s a 1200cc v4.
Never checked it
It’s not the economy that most complain about, it’s the range and some just wish that it had a bit more capacity. It took me a while to get that and now that I’ve been on some longer trips I can see where it could be useful in areas like out in the western US. Fuel stops can be few and far between so even if you plan properly it may cause you to take a different route or extra can of fuel. Not a deal breaker but could help the convenient factor.
@@revilok8698 me personally never came across a scenario where gas was not available out west but have Passed up a gas station when I shouldn't have. The slimmer tank is actually way more beneficial than the old 9 gallon tank. Besides you need water and a rest every 200 miles. My thing is asking for a bigger tank is like asking for a lower seat height... both make adventure bikes worse off-road.
It doesn’t have to be 9gal, at least 6 would be perfect. I can only get 170-180mi out of a tank and really that’s ok but if I could get to that 200mi point comfortably, that would be preferable. Not totally disagreeing with your point, merely stating another point of view that is also valid. I’ve been on a route taking 2 lane roads back from Sturgis that you could go 150mi without seeing a gas station. If you had filled up 40mi ago before starting that stretch some wouldn’t think to hit that last gas stop unless you just happen to know ahead of time. Like you say, you need to stop every 200mi or so so having a range of about 220mi would be perfect and worry free. You also can’t convince me that adding another gallon capacity to the overall tank size to make it 6.3 would be large enough that anyone could truly tell the difference between their legs. Just my 2 pennies
@@revilok8698 the Honda CRF1000 ATAS has a 6.8 vs 5.5 I think and it's horrible. In the way all the time. I'm pretty particular. I can feel a gallon of fuel in the tank, 2 clicks on suspension settings, it's why I'm testing bikes. You know preload and settings people rarely touch I dive into. If the tank was 6 gallons would you ask for 6.5? If it was 6.8 would you ask for 7.5? If it was 3.3 would you live with 4? All semantics at that point so I would just be cautious passing up a gas station
Two questions, one irrelevant to this vlogg. First, have you ridden the Tiger 1200? And the 2nd irrelevant one is about my 2022 Tiger 900’s rear brake. Long travel and a bit spongy. Have you messed with the pads? Would a metallic pad improve performance to any significant degree? Thanks for your time.
IMU actually stands for inertial measurement unit
Yeah, I was at Bosch in 2012 or 13 testing the first units in the multi 1200 with the variable valve timing. Did i say something wrong?
@@steve_kamrad5216 not a big deal but you said internal measurement unit. I knew what you meant. Great review of the bike! You pushed it hard! I’m (im)patiently waiting for the MTS V4 Rally to arrive.
@Thelnferno whelp I've been saying that wrong since day 1! Lol. Good catch. Almost as bad as when I was dampening instead of damping when I talk about suspension.
My prediction - wait, I'm getting vibes from the future: There will be a lot of these for sale when they hit 35,999 miles. and I'll be there for it.
Lol
And I'll be riding off on the new version, leaving you to pick up the tab, you're welcome, later, baaaaaaarp!!!
@@CurvedSlightly new bike: unlimited mileage warranty. Used bike: needs valve service. Home mechanic: I serviced my valves my self and the bike won't run right and it's out of warranty, I also don't trust dealers cause they won't guarantee to fix the problem.
This bike, the new V4S doesn’t have the dreaded Desmodromic valves, it has the conventional valve springs and valve check interval is at 60,000 kilometres. You read it right, 60,000 kilometres
Cheers
Multistrada has wings? Red Bull gonna hate you Steve lol Great ADV milestone it seems.
As always, informative and entertaining content.
Great chatting w you last week at DD Steve.
So how do you compare the Duc with the Triumph Triple Rally?
On road gwt the multi, off road get a tiger 1200rp
You still out there, or did you get that Union role and are too busy???
Nah I'm still out here! 2 maybe 3 videos dropping soon actually!
Very respectable opinion, I much appreciated, however,for some reason you seem more happy with previous bikes 🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐
Yes because of the offroad capabilities
Steve, would you get this model or the pikes peak edition?
Spoke wheelsc100%
I love the Ducati V4S but there is one big concern, the gas consumption.. Normally i dont care about that on a Bike but this is just sooo high it has to be considered when thinking of buying one..
About 30-40% higher than my R1250GS................ Still it is probably worth it.. :)
Percentages?! Lol. I hear ya but never ever have I contemplated milage when buying a motorcycle. 12 year old me would be disappointed if I did.
There was unfinished business with the v4, 👍👍👍👍
Yeah had to get this out eventually
When you dump a demo bike like this do they expect you to pay for the damages or give you a pass?
Depends. These aren't demo bikes. They're press bikes.
@@steve_kamrad5216 OK, same question press bikes?
@@Dobemandan I can confirm no bills were sent! You ask Kamrad on a launch you expect "to the limit" testing!..
@@Dobemandan like Phil said, we're expected to treat them but be responsible and respectful
Just an FYI… The HD Pan America has zero valve clearance adjustment so it’s even better than the Ducati. The V4 has longer oil service intervals though. I absolutely love my V4S so this video is not just hype. It’s the real feeling most have after riding it.
I wouldn't even now where to start with the HD and service but good point.
If you plan on using this bike for more than 30k miles I would do oil changes every 6k miles if you use synthetic oil and more often if you lower grade.
@@marcinsmaga3441 these require specialized fully synthetic oil, Ducati wouldn't offer a warranty if their oil didn't hold up to 10k miles so I'm not really seeing your point. It's more of your opinion, which is totally fine and valid. I do oil usually every year on my lower mile bikes with 10k mile intervals. Some only see 600 race miles a year.
Oil change at 9k mile??? Do they use some magical oil in it??
Good luck with that. Will see how long the engine will last. Given that probably most first owners will not do more than 10k miles on before replacing with something else it should not be an issue for them... hahah
My tiger is 10k, my scrambler is 10k, my truck is 15k. Most modern bikes do 10 or 9k. My KTM dirt bike... 4 to 8 hours depending on clutch use.
@@steve_kamrad5216 I do own a tiger xc 2012 (first gen) and it is 6K miles (10K kilometres). I use synthetic oil and usually last 1k miles I can tell it needs to be changed as gears do not go in as smoothly anymore. So far I did put in over 70K miles on it :) with no major issues. Last 4 years I did 60K of it.
I know manufacturers do tell you that but, I don't think it is very good idea to do more than 6K miles without oil change, unless one doesn't care about longevity of the engine and gearbox.
@@marcinsmaga3441hmm 1k sounds really early. I had 27k on my tiger 800 xr almost 20k offroad at events and races. Might have bent the shifter forks? But yeah early oil changes are fine.
@@steve_kamrad5216 I meant that after doing 5k miles, 1k miles before planned oil changed I can tell it is already old and needs to be replaced.
And I enjoy watching your videos ;)
💐 🅿🆁🅾🅼🅾🆂🅼
Sorry Dude I don’t believe you. Too much, too heavily hyped. The brand is a BAD fit, never considered reliable. The bike can’t stand up…. Try it again…...Where is the dealership support?
Surprisingly robust, @bradley alexander. Ducati has the third largest dealer network, behind Harley and BMW as far as adventure bikes are concerned. I had issues (rarely) and once was doing a saddle sore where I needed service while riding in an unfamiliar area. Found a dealer, called, got accommodated, went on my way. I've had harder time finding emergency BMW work than Ducati. Again, personal experience which changes from person to person and repair to repair, but I haven't been stranded.
u must be talking about old Ducatis bc I haven't had any issues
If you feel that, then you should watch other channel. Why you here and blame him?
Don't think he's trying to make you 'believe', Steve's job is to provide his opinion on the bike - not really his problem if you don't like it haha. I mean he's ridden just about every adv bike on the market and rides them relatively quickly so no reason not to take his opinion as reasonably accurate. Dealership support? hahahaha yeah when I think of small time brands I think of Ducati, Yamaha, Triumph... :P Anyone that thinks any of the big time modern adv bikes are going to cover 100xxxkm's + without minor electrical gremlins, minor quality issues etc are kidding themselves they're highly complex machines and not 1995 dr650's. Anyone that thinks modern Ducati don't take build quality and assembly QA seriously on 25k (40k+ AUD) bikes is also kidding themselves. The whole point of this bike is to be 'too much' that's the idea - there has to be a ceiling in the market - good on ducati for demonstrating what they can build.
Rides a press parade... "full review".
Spent a full 12 hour day with the bike. And a full press release before a presentation from the ceo and marketing team and engineers and a team of mechanics. 40x what anyone would get from a dealer. With a guided ride designed to test the limits and intended purposes of the bike both on and off road. With a fully pre-broken machine prepared as the manufacturer intended. Then tested by the world's leading and most trusted media outlets, and influential riders available. Full test? You bet!
👎
Oh cool, thanks.
The bike has just passed the Steve_Kamrad test.It has to be good.Thanks.