yata is the sole reason I ran despair from the dark. 2800 beat stick that special summons itself from the gy if sent from your hand/deck by opponent's card. Oldest anti yata lock I Know from chaos era. fear from the dark is a weaker 1700 but does basically the same thing.
:) well i did play handdestruction "back then" but without CED and BLS since they where a little bit toooo exensive for me... and yeah without both of them it was kinda hard to get a yata lock consistend ... you had the big 3 hand destruction spells yeah but you had to play more slowly since you always had to first clear the backrow ...
Modern yugioh fans: 'This game sucks, it's broken and was so much better and balanced before Synchros.' Me, an old school fan who was Yata-Locked more times than I could count: 'You know nothing of hell.'
I actually thought the game was the most balanced when Synchros were the newest thing. yes, the blackwings, lightsworn, glad beasts and stuff from that era were super strong, but I remember seeing a lot of different decks at that time that were viable and it was possible to get creative with a deck and still do pretty well competitively, even the strong decks didn't play themselves.
True with synchro you just needed a good strategy to win the duel i remember i placed in the top 8 as a 10 year in my first ever locals playing a simple synchro deck with colossal fighter as my boss monster
Jacob Carr yea, XYZ era and pendulum era were dominated by the same meta cards. synchro era you had the ability to be a champ with any deck if you played ur strategy welled
#5: BEHOLD, A DRAGON WHICH APPEARS AT THE END OF DAYS TO PROPHESY THE FORECOMING APOCALYPSE, LOOK ON IT AND DESPAIR #4: BEHOLD, A MONSTROUS ARMED DRAGON MADE OF PURE DARKNESS. SEE THE BLOOD DRIP FROM ITS SNARLING TEETH AND QUIVER WITH HOPELESSNESS #2: This is a guitar which is also a turtle
@@silvanobianchini6924 Played from day one all the way on up to what I like to call the Reign of Chaos; I had to quit just a little after the banhammer fell as I had no one to play with. Then, years later, I caught wind of harpies being Tier One and immediately came back. But, not long after, I took one look at Pendulums and was like "yup, I had my fun!" Haven't been back since and Master Rule Four only ensured that I won't be back anytime soon. This is simply not the game I knew and loved in high school. Not any more.
AI in a game that's probably as old as the yata-lock: *is programmed to surrender if you manage to pull off the combo* AI in Duel Links: *will use Treacherous Trap Hole on your own monsters if they're the only monsters on the field* Edit: I just witnessed a Vagabond kill itself via Simoon the Poison Wind. I love this game
@@poogly123 "drowning mirror" force is the only thing I can think of a generic card. There is also "power of the tributed" and "share the pain." so if you could bait the negate, then maybe you can make a comback. Although, all these are cards are unseachable (unless fortune lady every doesn't target). And a single red eyes spirit would completely undue the opponents work. So please don't add the card winning in the TCG to a game in the xyz meta...
@@poogly123 Technically, yes. Stuff like Lava Golem can out almost anything. It's also not too difficult to get a monster that can beat over it in battle. There's also drowning mirror force. Or if you want to be stylish, Cyber Angel Dakini (since no anaconda, you'll be summoning dragoon with fusion and probably an extensive red eyes engine, so it'll be your only summon for the turn). Actually? No way. Just because something has counters to it doesn't mean that it is okay to be in the game. Most of the best outs to it aren't very commonly played, or could die to the negate if you don't have a follow up.
The funny thing is that the anime even references how Chaos Emperor Dragon being banned was something NEW at the time, as in one episode of GX a weird duelist who was using a copy of Yugi's deck from the original Yu-gi-oh was about to summon Black Luster Solider - Envoy of the beggining, and when he mentioned the banishing of light and dark, one of the people watching the duel talked about Chaos Emperor dragon, saying that only 2 cards were known to have such an effect, and that Chaos Emperor Dragon was so powerful that it was banned, and the only reason why Black Luster Solider WASN'T banned was because it was apparently so rare that some people doubted it's existence, basically an overly dramatic way mentioning the Banlist in the anime without outright calling it out, since a lot of banned cards are actually used in the anime regularly anyway, like Pot of Greed
I used a chaos deck in 2004. I still remember almost wrecking my sisters car she was driving when I opened a pack and got Black Luster Soldier Envoy of the Beginning.
@@russelldoty2743 quick question: does ygo have any ruling about taking shortcuts? (like if you can loop something an arbitrary amount of times to go infinite, can u say "ok, im doing this loop a billion times... ggs i win", or if you have a gamestate like an opponent with an empty hand, no board and you have a yata on field, so they'd lose in 100 turns and there's nothing they can do) cuz in magic, if you have such a gamestate, and the opponent confirms they lack any interaction, you can take a shortcut and it's gonna be fine
Can we all just recall for a moment that dragon rulers was only ever tier 1, and never tier 0. The deck that could actually win against dragon rulers was spellbooks, because spellbook of judgement was op. So in other words, dragon rulers was stopped from reaching tier 0, because just 1 card made an archetype strong enough to combat it.
It's a real shame SPYRAL were never used the intended way by the competetive players. It's a fun deck in pure format and spying is a mechanic that works really well in yugioh.
I personally wanted SPYRALs to be an archetype that revolves around shuffling you opponents cards from field to Deck by doing the Spy part ( they can peek at your opponent's hand and spell or trap cards) and Spiral as in spinning that they would shuffle cards from the field to the deck
@@Crowgioh that sounds busted because espionage especially combined with sabotage involving the hand is a very powerful mechanic and would wind up on the banlist fast
It would be cool if some SPYRAL cards could also special summon themselves to the opponent's field, but still be treated as a card you control that can still battle opponent's monsters and can't be used as a resource, although I know people would abuse that to hell without proper balancing.
I'd argue that Spellbooks at full power were tier zero, but only because, like Spyrals, Droll and Lock Bird was played in those formats. Droll and Lock Bird is usually a good litmus test for whether or not a format is bad; If it's involved in deck lists, chances are the format is bad.
You forgot to mention that SPYRALs had Ancient Fairy Dragon who can loop SPYRAL Resort indefinitly, so you can basicly Extralink your opponent with 2 firewall dragons setup, a full trigate cross AND a protected Sleeper on top of it. That is one of the reasons Ancient Fairy Dragon is banned.
If you are going to make such a stupid, rule-breaking troll deck, it would be much smarter to just run the 5 cards of Exodia so you instantly draw and win.
The funniest thing about spyral is that it's a tier 1 deck in tcg and become a tier 0 in ocg as soon as it was released in there. I love the fact that despite how good spellbook and dragon ruler are, they were in the same format and that make them tier 1not 0
Nothing makes me feel older than hearing those 2 infamous words, the Yata-lock. Yugioh back in my day was filled with the Yata-lock and it made the game awful. Such a brutal shut down.
@@holoceneevent4534 as an old yugioh player: being consistently shut down on your opponen't first turn without a way to retort due to lack of cards that had floating effects/could be special summoned from the gy was terrible. Plus, losing 8000 lp being attacked with a 200 atk bird was the worst.
funny thing is, I did the Yaya-lock without Chaos Emperor Dragon or Sangan, my opponent just had a bad hand, but was sooo fustrated when i kept attacking with Yata, loved that card, memories.
Spirit monsters are one of the most iconic archetypes of all times imo. Its the meme-tier archetype yet has 3 monsters limited/banned and is partly responsible for creating the banlist.
You forgot to mention how zoo was so consistent it could run counter traps like solemn strike and a bunch of handtraps without harming consistency making their fields hard to break in addition to zoo's ability to rebuild everything easily
Interesting how this video offers a nice little window into the absurd power creep YuGiOh has suffered over the years, with tier-0 decks of yesteryear being easy meat for newer stuff.
I remember the days when Zoodiacs ruled the meta. I actually tried putting cards like Barrier Statue of the Heavens and Torrential Tribute into my deck to counter them. This was before I learned how terrible my physical deck is.
It might make you happy to know that in Japan, players actually did play Barrier Statues as a viable counter to Zoodiacs, although True Dracos came along shortly after and ruined that.
@@drakedraggin1256 Yeah, except it was more of an all-in kind of strat where you built your deck around Barrier Statues and Fossil Dyna, with tons of cards meant to stop Zoos rather than just putting the statues into other decks.
Chaos is the last format I played competitively (I have more nostalgia for the hand control format before it).I'm glad it was included despite the cards being trash now just because it literally was the reason they created the ban list.
@@FormerRuling same, yata-lock was all i played back then. i remember old no banlist formats were actually fun, maraudin captain was the shit, breaker the magical warrior along with exiled force and tribe infecting virus were staples to every decks. kept playing until power of Duelist, left then cameback when crystal beasts and gravekeepers were a thing, i was playing a dark magician deck for fun, yet still did well in local meta, but crystal beast beforre bans was stupid. left once more, cameback with the new meta of ''f**k you i play nekroz/burning abyss/shadoll and you dont get to play'' era, and stopped for good and concentrated my energy on MTG, wich was a good call after all the great results i put up over the years. i miss old school yugioh tho..
When I was just getting back into the game PePe had just been nerfed, I had no idea about any of the new stuff, I still just had my old deck that was pretty much a standard blue-eyes deck. Played a friend that had PePe deck and I was completely dumbfounded when I got smacked down without even getting much of a chance.
Man 2016-2018 was the height of my competitive time in this game. Hearing about Zoodiac and Spyral again just reminds me that I played through probably the most difficult metas in Yugioh history playing Phantasm Spiral and True Draco Weather Painter. quit the game right before Eldilich was announced and came back in late 2020 for obvious reasons.
@@elsquisheeone Considering how much thought he put into his videos, I am wondering if he really did go that far in his name. If it was just referencing his theme, he could have just gone with GameZoo or RankZoo.
@@mirageowl I think it would really help the game. Me and many of my friends used to play YGO very heavily back in 2013/14. The meta then was loose enough that our reject rogue decks could do decently well in tournies because we were good players. Then Nekroz launched in 2015 and the game just sped up to a point where you could not keep up. Some people may like that sure, but I don't enjoy trying to play the game only to get hit with a hand trap turn 1 and then spending 20 minutes just sat their bored as they pull off a combo to lock me down. A Synchro only format would be something I'd love as Synchros are my favourite ED monsters and they're the decks I have the most fun running. Giving players the ability to update old Synchro decks or homebrew completely new versions of decks would bring a lot of interest back to the game. MtG is arguably bigger than ever and a lot of that is down to the fact people have so many ways of playing the game, to the point it's a meme among fans. But Konami offers no support to non-meta fans.
@@ultimatetadpole9607 yeah MTG was what I was thinking of. I agree to your point about the speed of the game. I was never a great player, but at least even when my decks lost, I got to play the game, play my deck etc. I think the sign of a great game is when you get to play / engage with the game even if you are a losing player. As negation effects became more and more common and easier to access, the interaction between players became more about not letting each other play instead of building advantage over time to swing the game in your favor turn by turn
There has NEVER been a card that was as overpowered as Chaos Emperor Dragon was during its reign. Yes, there are cards that are better than it is now, but for the time it was released in? Absolutely broken beyond belief. There is no way someone sober read the text of that card and thought it was good to print. They HAD to be on something; I REFUSE to believe that anyone who knows anything about game design or balance would ever make something like that..... aaaaand that answers my question.
Chaos Emperor Dragon is perhaps still the strongest monster even to this day released by Konami. Only contenders I can see are Makyura and Firewall Dragon. I do not think Chaos Emperor with its original effect is healthy considering he is so easy to get to the hand and trigger every GY effect including wiping out everybody's hand. Dragons have gotten ALOT of support lately. If his effect gets negated, simply just Special Summon him again from the GY and do it again with REDMD or guardragons.
Yea i remember learning about that card as a kid. Going nuts thinking it was so strong. Go play at locals try and pull one out and BAM! bottomless- trap hole. People used to actually PLAY the game, y'know, when it involved strategy...
Well broken cards and combos that are basically unbeatable destroying the game so it makes sense... Im sure some people still have nightmares about the Yata-lock 😓 And please lets not talk about Zoodiacs
I remember a tournament I won at my local game shop back in the day... My opponent in the last round was SO sure he was going to beat me! I picked up my hand and looked at it to see 3 Robbin' Goblins, Dark Hole, and Heavy Storm. Draw my card to start my turn... YATA GARASU! Thinking to myself: "Poker Face, Chad... POKER FACE! Fight the urge to laugh maniacally!"
That's exactly the point of Konami making money out of this game. They need to balance out the fun and the money you give them. They can't let a deck remain consistent for too long, because people will spend less money since they only have to update their already existing deck.
Tier 0 six sam in tcg was the eithet 14 days or 26 days of it having Gateway at 3 during 5D era though. It immediately drop to Tier 1 alongside Neos Beatdown after that
LOVE THIS CHANNEL SO MUCH. I would really like it if you would do more Tier 0 decks ranging all the way back in the 2000s until now in the 2020s. That would be pretty rad, something like a history lesson perse.
@4:36 wow. I had decided to make a dark themed deck back when I played as a kid, centered around a few key dark cards including Vampire Lord (prior to that Vampire Structure deck). Actually getting Vampire Lord, as a kid with no way to really make money, was so huge. Every big card was, like buying Black Tyrano. Eventually I won a ObIlesk The Tormentor card in a tournament because of it, and I had figured out ways to start putting things in the grave. Having you explain the Dark Armed Dragon arch. Like that suddenly makes it make sense as to why it worked so well. I didn’t actually have that dragon but wanted it so bad. And dueling network made that a dream. I also had a water deck based around A Legendary Ocean dropping 5 star water monsters to 4, and I actually got a Legendary Fisherman Card. That was pretty dope as a kid. As well as cards like catapult turtle and Orcha Mecha Fortress of Darkness suddenly became way more useable. That was def pre 2010 tho haha
What player do with firewall dragon: FTK extra link SPYRAL combos gem-knight FTK danger dark World FTK link spam. What playmaker does: 7300 ATK for 5 seconds before finishing revolver and then never touching that card ever again until he met zaizen, but then he didn't use it until he fought 2 random gouki users and then again against revolver and then he used it for the last time against go. He used its SS broken effect ONCE! HE ALWAYS USED ITS BOUNCE EFFECT, BUT SOMEHOW IT GOT IT WRONG AGAINST ZAIZEN. HOW DO U MAKE YOUR OPPONENT GO +2!!
Where are Volcanics? Oh right, they can't be tier 0 without new support... Day 298 of waiting for new Volcanic support to arrive (I actually don't want any deck to be tier 0, because it destroys the fun from this game)
Even when a card's limited, it's really hard to build an entire deck around it. DAD basically just became a nice card to draw in dark decks, and something like Dino Rabbits kind of disappeared once Rescue Rabbit was limited.
Such a shame that E.Drags and spellbooks are not on this list because by definition they aren't tier 0. E. Drags, literally the best monster core ever made. And spell books had the best card ever made being spell book of judgement.
I was going to say, " what no dragon rulers?" But im glad i see someone giving the boys some recognition. They literally banned all four of those cards
@@laundrysauce1263 Yea if either deck was released separately from each other they both would be tier 0 but because they were in the same format they kinda balanced each other out.
i remembered back then on my local area of YGO tournament when DR and spellbook were still at that peak, people just called it "Tale of Battle between the Magician and the Dragon" its really intense, I had so much fun and also good memories
SPYRALs were a nightmare when I faced them. I almost defeated one deck using hero's with dark law, but I made misplays and ended up losing to that deck. That was when I discovered how broken SPYRALs
It's a case of unstoppable force meeting an immovable object. When two tier zero decks coexist at the same time then neither of them become tier zero. Even though they both have the power to become tier zero on their own without the other existing.
@@ItzMiKeKirbY I think it can also be defined as power creep if not somewhat extreme. It's just that LTGY was a bit ahead of its time introducing support and an archetype that wouldve been considered good if it came out in 2016 nvm 2013
there's also the "6 samurais deck" before being nerfed that was played at like 65-75%, while the synchro plant being at around 15-25%, and the rest being anti-meta decks, but that was not near the teledad deck. I was playing synchro plant at the time before both decks were heavily nerfed.
Yeah they hit my PePe deck pretty hard almost immediately when it was released, the difference is though I looked at the new Pendulum mechanics as more of a "Revival" of older cards. Normal monsters were relevant again, normal AND older monsters. So that's what I did, I had two Pendulum decks, one was for my "Normal Revival" deck which just had a bunch of power house normal monsters levels 7 to 8. The second Pendulum deck was for my DM deck which was incredibly powerful and I'm surprised that not very many people played it considering the Xyz & Synchro capabilities, Pendulums were just the engine that made its older Spell Counter engine obsolete, though you still took some of the Spells that were good for a DM deck along with it like Dark Magic Attack, Thousand Knives, Spellbook, etc. If more people had just simply caught on and accepted to adopting a Pendulum engine, they'd realize just how much more powerful their own personal & favorite decks would become. I can still remember the complaints when Pendulums first came out saying the mechanic was "too difficult" to understand, whether they were trolls or simply that ignorant, it made no sense that they couldn't catch on very quickly.
I don't have a problem with the mechanic itself. I just think the cards needed less text to compensate for having two text boxes. This is why I greatly prefer Majespecter and Metalfoes over Abyss Actors etc
I remember that the Scapegoat/Metamorphosis/Thousand-Eyes Restrict Combo was just as annoying as the Yata-Lock back in the day. By the way, there's a far lesser known lockdown using the Mystical Knight of Jackal.
I remember I was playing at a local, my opponent chose to go first, when I saw that first performapal I just surrendered the match haha. I just didn't feel like watching this dude do his setup knowing I was gonna get destroyed.
I got into Magic recently and Oko reminds me so much of BLS, Envoy of the Beginning. Ridiculously easy to summon, hard to get rid of, and completely insane board control effects. And basically, it's a card that nearly any deck can use even if it has zero synergy with the rest of the deck, because it's that good.
top 5 tier 0 deck duel links 5. Six Samurai Full Power 4. Koaki Meiru Full Power 3. Cyber Angel Full Power 2. Restructor Revolution Burn 1. FTK bamboo burn
I actually thought dragon rulers would be number 1. Cause even in today time, them at full power would jump straight to tier 0 with link support since they didnt even need their extra deck. Possibly the best engine Edit I got to the end, and I see why they weren't included. They didnt classify as tier 0 though they were there in power
@@sigurdvickery3523 are you including the buff dragon support? Cause without them dragon decks are very strong how would including them not just break them? They can never put them at a disadvantage
I wasn’t playing at the time and just recently got back in YGO.... but I would have loved to duel Spyral and Pepe at full power. Obviously I would have lost. But seeing the decks at full power and the plays they made would have been cool to see lol
full power Spyral was pretty fragile , very good Spyral players altered their playstyle to a slower resource gain control & beatdown style for bad match ups while most other Spyral players got bopped by the Invoked & Trickstar handtrap control decks after overcommiting, ^.^ those were the ones I played during that format.
Sorta. Lightsworns as an archetype have seen competitive play since release and haven’t really stopped, but they’ve never been good enough to be tier 0. They are a great engine though.
@@thameekstaninjahman8337 full power striker just gets destroyed by other decks getting boosted by drones at 3, we've seen this already, & full power Salad is incredibly solid & makes almost every other control/grind deck obsolete but also ultimately is only tier 1, '.' this we've also seen.
Apparently Chaos decks are the "beginning" of Tier 0. I guess everyone wants to forget Beatdown being so simple. lol I think Chaos was when power creep really started though, other than monster stats going up.
Its a different MR. You cant rlly say that. Without MR4, PePe is at its strongest I think tbh since there were no restrictions at all for their mechanics
Judgment Spellbooks weren't really tier 0 since full powered Dragon Rulers were around when they were, and was arguably a better deck. And chaos control predates Goat format, plus goat control was such a nebulous term that calling it tier 0 is questionable.
Wasn't spellbook of judgement banned less than half a year after it released? Barely got to use it. Even then, dragon ruler was way better and easier to pilot.
Goyo Guardian + Mind Control + Monster Reborn You were playing against a Gladiator Beast deck, you were good... keep in mind that there wasn't a lot of generic synchros, so the extra deck often had space for random shit. (I think this is it, idk)
Dragon Rulers were arguably a tier 0 deck when Judgment was banned, and the D-Rulers themselves were all still at 3 for a single format. Like I said, arguable.
Zoodiac i would say is the genesis of how Konami designs top tier decks now, ridiculous consistency, godly comeback potential, the ability to be put in as a consistency engine. Sky Striker is my favorite variant of this design philosophy just cause it could actually be sided against amd was clearly designed with certain stop gaps you could hit that would slow their (multi) roll. I think Konami has learned and gotten better at balancing ridiculous consistency and power.
1: I have personally seen ai ff from a Yata Lock, it was in the DS game Spirit Caller, I did it against Crowley and that was the only time in the entire game a character surrendered. 2: In the TeleDAD era, the only deck that was able to compete in the slightest with it was Lightsworn, but it was generally understood that TeleDAD was objectively better. 3: Crush Card Virus was also around for a bit of the TeleDAD format and was swiftly banned with it's then current text along with Disk Commander. The only reason you didn't see more Crush Cards at the time was because it was so stupidly rare that there weren't enough to put in all of those decks. I remember that it was so rare that there were rumors running around that Crush Cards were sometimes hiding in the actual cardboard packaging of the Gold Series pack so everyone actually took the time to disassemble each box they bought.
Thanks for making a video explaining to people what tiers are. It's disappointing when I see someone like Tombox (or was it Cimo?) state heroes are tier 1.5 and just throw out statements like that. Also, was Nekroz ever tier 0? I feel like I recall it being the best deck with Djinn at the time but I could be wrong since DUEA format was around then
I can't believe Feind decks using Dark Necrofear/Dark ruler never competeded at these levels. It's the deck I played for years and beat all the other decks of that era 8/10 times. Something about negating all the destruction effects and stealing the big monsters they didn't like.
Yeah, its interesting what seems overpowered when played among you and your friends. I remember back in 2006 my deck of choice was this gren maju type deck powered by skull lair and self replacing monsters. It tended to win a lot, but now that im older and understand card game theory better I know why it didn't take over the metagame (back in the day I assumed it was because Tournament players were all just metasheep with no imagination or skill compared to me lol)
Just before Link monsters came out I created a variation of the supreme king dragon staving venom deck adding admityle. Making a 12800 ATK beatstick with room for a lot of other plays. I'm glad link came, this deck was op and you could chease your opponent easily
5) I like the Chaos archetype. 4) The deck the school bully played (true story) 3) Meh... I stopped being Competitive by this point. 2) I dislike the artwork of all these cards 1) I've only now realized they're called SPYrals, because they're all secret agents and Spies. That's kinda cool.
This was basically a list of decks that took "Watch your opponent play Solitaire" to ridiculous extremes. It's extremely annoying to sit there during a zoodiac or spyral combo.
I feel like Konami loves to Nerf decks that are actually fun to play. Because why else would you host an event where people have mastered making certain deck types, only for them to be heavily nerfed in a way that may not be near as fun
Well first, "fun" is relative. I find playing Plunder Patrol fun, and that's never been touched by the banlist. Secondly, are you implying the decks on this list were nerfed purely for being fun to play? That's even MORE relative. Even most of the players playing these decks at the time were sick of them, and demanded the banlist get involved.
The funniest part about yata lock is that you can trick the AI in old games to surrender even if you can’t pull off the yata lock. You can also do a similar thing with real players. I remember I was running some shitty home brew with Sangan in it and my opponent just surrendered. He thought I had the funny. I did not have the funny
Friend of mine had a duel. Opponent summons yata, attacks. "I win" Friend: "...why?" "I got yata" "...well play it out" *turn passes, cannot play cause no hand* *15 turns of only having yata as the attacking monster later opponent decks otu* "BUT! BUT I HAD YATA! I WIN!"
I used to play fur hires just because I got lucky enough to get all the cards and liked the archetype (I played for a bit after they got nerfed too but got bored when Six Sams came up) I remember always hating the Vampire matchup. Not because I usually lost those, but because my god do you have to do a lot of reading. Any time I saw someone summon Retainer or whatever I just sat my phone down and waited for their turn to be over. Edit: gonna keep this reply up until the hate starts piling in from all the FH haters because I know they're coming. Once that happens I'll probably delete it so I don't have to deal with it. It was like two years ago.
I havent played yugioh since i was a kid, but im binging your videos because you do such a good job explaining everything and there is no fluff or bull crap. Sick channel mate.
Does anyone know any good websites, RUclips channels, etc. that showcase these decks at full power? Preferably both the deck recipe and combos (like a tutorial)? I’m a more casual yugioh player I’ll admit, but I’ve been enjoying the Nintendo switch game legacy of the duelist, link evolution and was hoping to try them out! But most of my searches just lead to poorly dated or poorly explained vids or descriptions, which hasn’t really helped sadly
13:14 - 13:23 "Because what beats a Deck that's hyper-consistent and can go +5 easily? How about Decks that can do the exact same thing while also getting a whole bunch of Negates on the board? I understand you were leading into PePe and SPYRAL's, but I couldn't help the image of Infernities popping into my head. Triple summoning Trishula and other powerful Synchro's while filling the backrow with Infernity Barrier to Negate EVERYTHING. I swear it was almost like a precursor.
I started playing spyrals before links and I always just thought they were cool, so I remember I was psyched when links came around and I has this super powerful deck all put together already kmao
Honorable Mention: Gouki Knightmare. A deck that made pseudo-FTK's, and it was so degenerate, that or you drew the perfect hand of handtraps, or you scoop.
2017 was probably one of the worst years for yugioh, not only because of the 2 tier 0 decks, but master rule 4 being a thing, forced people to play a way that other mechanics never did. I know too many people who quit the game that year that it was not even funny. I just decided to focus on school since it seemed a waste of time. Currently in 2020, I know people planning on coming back because of master rule 5(or master rule 4.5, whatever u want to call it).
Intro: In Yugioh, players will use the words “Tears” to describe the salty drops that fall from players’ eyes after being Yata Locked
Jeffrey Tam :D
yata is the sole reason I ran despair from the dark.
2800 beat stick that special summons itself from the gy if sent from your hand/deck by opponent's card. Oldest anti yata lock I Know from chaos era.
fear from the dark is a weaker 1700 but does basically the same thing.
*now I can't unread*
@@ZR3009 "then forget, internet 101"- /4chan probably.
:) well i did play handdestruction "back then" but without CED and BLS since they where a little bit toooo exensive for me... and yeah without both of them it was kinda hard to get a yata lock consistend ... you had the big 3 hand destruction spells yeah but you had to play more slowly since you always had to first clear the backrow ...
Damn, I feel like I was just watched the history of those enormous empires like Roman or Mongol in the past lol
Sekai Hunter :D
Hahahaha riiiiight? I love history stuff like this
For players who were present from the start of the entire game, believe me. It kind of is
Bah, they're beated by ROGUE Resistance or Revolution
Lol for real man I feel like I just went on journey thru my childhood favorite card game
I love how a card called “chaos emperor dragon-envoy of the end” and some fucking bird are both so good they need to be banned
Also two of the best looking cards ever made.
@@SteelKatanas Yeah, the Artwork is nice.
@Ommi Hildegardt Bruh how old are you? How long have you had that card?
@Ommi Hildegardt weird flex
Said bird is a sun god of Shinto mythology, so it's not that far fetched.
Modern yugioh fans: 'This game sucks, it's broken and was so much better and balanced before Synchros.'
Me, an old school fan who was Yata-Locked more times than I could count: 'You know nothing of hell.'
I actually thought the game was the most balanced when Synchros were the newest thing. yes, the blackwings, lightsworn, glad beasts and stuff from that era were super strong, but I remember seeing a lot of different decks at that time that were viable and it was possible to get creative with a deck and still do pretty well competitively, even the strong decks didn't play themselves.
True with synchro you just needed a good strategy to win the duel i remember i placed in the top 8 as a 10 year in my first ever locals playing a simple synchro deck with colossal fighter as my boss monster
I miss the syncro era so bad.. xx sabers were so fun.
Jacob Carr yea, XYZ era and pendulum era were dominated by the same meta cards. synchro era you had the ability to be a champ with any deck if you played ur strategy welled
the most balanced format are Wind-up and Inzektor stuffs
A cake with too many pieces
#5: BEHOLD, A DRAGON WHICH APPEARS AT THE END OF DAYS TO PROPHESY THE FORECOMING APOCALYPSE, LOOK ON IT AND DESPAIR
#4: BEHOLD, A MONSTROUS ARMED DRAGON MADE OF PURE DARKNESS. SEE THE BLOOD DRIP FROM ITS SNARLING TEETH AND QUIVER WITH HOPELESSNESS
#2: This is a guitar which is also a turtle
yeah, i stopped playing when they released the Naturia... like, I wanna play with magicians and dragons, not rabbits and fruits!
@@silvanobianchini6924 Played from day one all the way on up to what I like to call the Reign of Chaos; I had to quit just a little after the banhammer fell as I had no one to play with. Then, years later, I caught wind of harpies being Tier One and immediately came back. But, not long after, I took one look at Pendulums and was like "yup, I had my fun!"
Haven't been back since and Master Rule Four only ensured that I won't be back anytime soon. This is simply not the game I knew and loved in high school. Not any more.
That comment got a good laugh outta me, gotta admit, lol.
@@silvanobianchini6924 YOU CHALLENGE ME WITH FRUIT?!
@@DrunkManSquakin666 Link Summoning meta Stopped me from playing...
So top 3 can be summed up as
"Who are you"
"I'm you, but better" lol
Hulliganner :D
Yes
"I am Yu, he is Mi." - Yu, Rush Hour 3
I don't play yugioh, but I can sort of understand why 4, 5 are strong. 1, 2, 3, I don't even understand what going on.
@@ianzen Consistency, Archetype synergy, and combo functionality.
AI in a game that's probably as old as the yata-lock: *is programmed to surrender if you manage to pull off the combo*
AI in Duel Links: *will use Treacherous Trap Hole on your own monsters if they're the only monsters on the field*
Edit: I just witnessed a Vagabond kill itself via Simoon the Poison Wind. I love this game
Lmao this has happened to me way too many times
Nue lmaooo
😂😂😂😂
Nue cocytus in attack position
summons 0 attack monster in attack mode and uses every card in the deck to protect it = beginning of skynet
In Duel Links players use the term "tears" to describe Dark Magical Circle
@Brad Burton Does Duel Links have an out to dragoon?
@@poogly123 "drowning mirror" force is the only thing I can think of a generic card. There is also "power of the tributed" and "share the pain." so if you could bait the negate, then maybe you can make a comback. Although, all these are cards are unseachable (unless fortune lady every doesn't target). And a single red eyes spirit would completely undue the opponents work. So please don't add the card winning in the TCG to a game in the xyz meta...
@Brad Burton if they would release dragoon in dual links, then in a mirror match, it would make it that whoever went first wins... And dat not fun
@@poogly123 Technically, yes. Stuff like Lava Golem can out almost anything. It's also not too difficult to get a monster that can beat over it in battle. There's also drowning mirror force. Or if you want to be stylish, Cyber Angel Dakini (since no anaconda, you'll be summoning dragoon with fusion and probably an extensive red eyes engine, so it'll be your only summon for the turn).
Actually? No way. Just because something has counters to it doesn't mean that it is okay to be in the game. Most of the best outs to it aren't very commonly played, or could die to the negate if you don't have a follow up.
Well duel links doesn't have any real form of omni negates so Dragoon would be the first one and also completely unbeatable
The funny thing is that the anime even references how Chaos Emperor Dragon being banned was something NEW at the time, as in one episode of GX a weird duelist who was using a copy of Yugi's deck from the original Yu-gi-oh was about to summon Black Luster Solider - Envoy of the beggining, and when he mentioned the banishing of light and dark, one of the people watching the duel talked about Chaos Emperor dragon, saying that only 2 cards were known to have such an effect, and that Chaos Emperor Dragon was so powerful that it was banned, and the only reason why Black Luster Solider WASN'T banned was because it was apparently so rare that some people doubted it's existence, basically an overly dramatic way mentioning the Banlist in the anime without outright calling it out, since a lot of banned cards are actually used in the anime regularly anyway, like Pot of Greed
Even before then, there was apparently already a banlist. During the duel of Marik vs Yugi Kaiba mentions that Monster Reborn is allowed only at 1
@@nodeberiaestaraqui93 huh, neat
Time stamps of Deck Profiles
0:47 - Chaos Yata-Lock
3:38 - Teledad (Dark Armored Dragon)
7:41 - Zoodiac
13:27 - PePe
16:27 - Spyral
Hope it helps
thank you
Thx
Thanks
i wish i could read them,
I used a chaos deck in 2004. I still remember almost wrecking my sisters car she was driving when I opened a pack and got Black Luster Soldier Envoy of the Beginning.
shut up.
@@rdc6360 shut up
Ultimate blue eyes white Dragon is still the strongest card in the game 1
@Galaspark same here, I'd run a black Luster soldier deck these days if I still played.
:D
Imagine being so overpowered that you single handedly made some cards forbidden
because yugioh was weaker back then.
firewall dragon: hey it was free real estate
Ultimate blue eyes white Dragon is still the strongest card in the game 1
im sorry what about needlefibre?
@@DarkSymphony777 what has gotten more cards banned? Firewall or needlefibre
Ah yes Yata Lock, proof that even in older formats before Extra Deck spamming Yu-Gi-Oh players already tried to ruin the game for everyone else.
Yu gi Oh has always been based about not letting your opponent play the game
But that was just a 3 card combo that took 30 seconds not a 20 card combo that takes 5 min
@@Joe-x3p9i Rest of the game would take ages due to Yata's low attack.
@@russelldoty2743 yeah but ppl would just ff why waste your own time at that point
@@russelldoty2743 quick question: does ygo have any ruling about taking shortcuts? (like if you can loop something an arbitrary amount of times to go infinite, can u say "ok, im doing this loop a billion times... ggs i win", or if you have a gamestate like an opponent with an empty hand, no board and you have a yata on field, so they'd lose in 100 turns and there's nothing they can do)
cuz in magic, if you have such a gamestate, and the opponent confirms they lack any interaction, you can take a shortcut and it's gonna be fine
Can we all just recall for a moment that dragon rulers was only ever tier 1, and never tier 0. The deck that could actually win against dragon rulers was spellbooks, because spellbook of judgement was op. So in other words, dragon rulers was stopped from reaching tier 0, because just 1 card made an archetype strong enough to combat it.
Yeah, had Dragon Rulers and Spell books been released separate from one another they'd both be tier 0
It's a real shame SPYRAL were never used the intended way by the competetive players. It's a fun deck in pure format and spying is a mechanic that works really well in yugioh.
I personally wanted SPYRALs to be an archetype that revolves around shuffling you opponents cards from field to Deck by doing the Spy part ( they can peek at your opponent's hand and spell or trap cards) and Spiral as in spinning that they would shuffle cards from the field to the deck
Maxx C.
@@Megaomg00 Curse of the Masked Beast
@@Crowgioh that sounds busted because espionage especially combined with sabotage involving the hand is a very powerful mechanic and would wind up on the banlist fast
It would be cool if some SPYRAL cards could also special summon themselves to the opponent's field, but still be treated as a card you control that can still battle opponent's monsters and can't be used as a resource, although I know people would abuse that to hell without proper balancing.
Me: about To shout Dragon Rulers and Spellbooks
DuelLogs: Mentions Dragon Rulers and Spellbooks
@ Because both decks came out at the same time. So none of them was able to reach tier 0
:D
I was ready to say the same thing until I seen this comment
I'd argue that Spellbooks at full power were tier zero, but only because, like Spyrals, Droll and Lock Bird was played in those formats. Droll and Lock Bird is usually a good litmus test for whether or not a format is bad; If it's involved in deck lists, chances are the format is bad.
Yea spell books drag rulers and burning abyss need to be on a separate list packs that turn the game into a one pack format
You forgot to mention that SPYRALs had Ancient Fairy Dragon who can loop SPYRAL Resort indefinitly, so you can basicly Extralink your opponent with 2 firewall dragons setup, a full trigate cross AND a protected Sleeper on top of it. That is one of the reasons Ancient Fairy Dragon is banned.
and spyral is back xD
shakeweller spyral is dead lmao
@@shakeweller Don't forget Destrudo was a thing so everyone and their uncle had easy access to AFD.
I just picked up the game again after 3 years and was like what the hell is AFD doing on the banlist
@@lovemym16 It's broken card. Look up some of the recent field spells, like Kosmotown, Dragonic Diagram, Spyral Resort etc.
Still can't believe how amazing the artwork for Elder Entity Norden is
Harnam Chana :D
All the Entity artwork is sick. Shame they're either useless or busted
remind me so much of Gwent Cards...
@@dman6261 Hello there, random MTG player.
@@Coboxite True.
You forgot the unbeatable above tier 0 deck:
35 pot of greed
5 of the Exodia cards.
*activates droll and lock bird*
@@omarabdulkarim8236 or if you go first prohabition
If you are going to make such a stupid, rule-breaking troll deck, it would be much smarter to just run the 5 cards of Exodia so you instantly draw and win.
Goes first and cries after an OTK happens.
< - < ...
> - >
*Takes out Cursed seal of the forbidden spell*
The funniest thing about spyral is that it's a tier 1 deck in tcg and become a tier 0 in ocg as soon as it was released in there.
I love the fact that despite how good spellbook and dragon ruler are, they were in the same format and that make them tier 1not 0
Nothing makes me feel older than hearing those 2 infamous words, the Yata-lock. Yugioh back in my day was filled with the Yata-lock and it made the game awful. Such a brutal shut down.
Adam Holt :D
It really wasnt that bad
@@holoceneevent4534 as an old yugioh player: being consistently shut down on your opponen't first turn without a way to retort due to lack of cards that had floating effects/could be special summoned from the gy was terrible. Plus, losing 8000 lp being attacked with a 200 atk bird was the worst.
funny thing is, I did the Yaya-lock without Chaos Emperor Dragon or Sangan, my opponent just had a bad hand, but was sooo fustrated when i kept attacking with Yata, loved that card, memories.
You basically got Promethius’s punishment except you eventually die
Spirit monsters are one of the most iconic archetypes of all times imo. Its the meme-tier archetype yet has 3 monsters limited/banned and is partly responsible for creating the banlist.
3? Yata banned, who are the rest of the cards? Tsukiyomi?
@@manuelesaa3795 yup, and for a short time, Asura 😅
@@shadotarot so right now yata is the only banned card?
@@manuelesaa3795 believe it or not, powercreep does that kind of thing, funny enough
To be fair, Asura and Tsukiyomi should never have been banned.
The best experience in yugioh was quitting during tele-dad and coming back in spyral format
Is that now?
Lmao are you me
oof
I started playing right after TeleDAD and left shortly after spyrals. That was a good time while it lasted.
You forgot to mention how zoo was so consistent it could run counter traps like solemn strike and a bunch of handtraps without harming consistency making their fields hard to break in addition to zoo's ability to rebuild everything easily
Interesting how this video offers a nice little window into the absurd power creep YuGiOh has suffered over the years, with tier-0 decks of yesteryear being easy meat for newer stuff.
Yeah, like how fuckin Tier 0 crazy Tearlament is
I remember the days when Zoodiacs ruled the meta. I actually tried putting cards like Barrier Statue of the Heavens and Torrential Tribute into my deck to counter them. This was before I learned how terrible my physical deck is.
DrakeDraggin' :D
Better then some
It might make you happy to know that in Japan, players actually did play Barrier Statues as a viable counter to Zoodiacs, although True Dracos came along shortly after and ruined that.
@@CommittingSudoku Really?
@@drakedraggin1256 Yeah, except it was more of an all-in kind of strat where you built your deck around Barrier Statues and Fossil Dyna, with tons of cards meant to stop Zoos rather than just putting the statues into other decks.
Chaos is so nostalgic for me because I played the most in that format.
:D
Chaos is the last format I played competitively (I have more nostalgia for the hand control format before it).I'm glad it was included despite the cards being trash now just because it literally was the reason they created the ban list.
@@FormerRuling same, yata-lock was all i played back then. i remember old no banlist formats were actually fun, maraudin captain was the shit, breaker the magical warrior along with exiled force and tribe infecting virus were staples to every decks.
kept playing until power of Duelist, left then cameback when crystal beasts and gravekeepers were a thing, i was playing a dark magician deck for fun, yet still did well in local meta, but crystal beast beforre bans was stupid. left once more, cameback with the new meta of ''f**k you i play nekroz/burning abyss/shadoll and you dont get to play'' era, and stopped for good and concentrated my energy on MTG, wich was a good call after all the great results i put up over the years.
i miss old school yugioh tho..
@@WiTTeNx Yu-Gi-Oh is pretty much the Marvel Vs. Capcom of card games...
I once asked you to do this video and you told me no, now my dream has come true.
When I was just getting back into the game PePe had just been nerfed, I had no idea about any of the new stuff, I still just had my old deck that was pretty much a standard blue-eyes deck. Played a friend that had PePe deck and I was completely dumbfounded when I got smacked down without even getting much of a chance.
Man 2016-2018 was the height of my competitive time in this game. Hearing about Zoodiac and Spyral again just reminds me that I played through probably the most difficult metas in Yugioh history playing Phantasm Spiral and True Draco Weather Painter. quit the game right before Eldilich was announced and came back in late 2020 for obvious reasons.
"if you made it this far in the video, you probably liked it to some extent"
so dry
it killed me
tierlists have always confused me as a child because "tier" is "animal" in german
Genau!
Haha geiler Typ
suddenly the name TierZoo makes a whole new level of sense
@@elsquisheeone Considering how much thought he put into his videos, I am wondering if he really did go that far in his name. If it was just referencing his theme, he could have just gone with GameZoo or RankZoo.
:D
I'd love to see some sort of tournament where all these decks are unlimited and have to compete against each other.
check lithium2300 youtube channel
yea I think what YuGiOh needs is more formats! that sounds fun
@@mirageowl I'm not asking for it to be the new meta or anything, just for some silly fun on the side with OP cards.
@@mirageowl I think it would really help the game. Me and many of my friends used to play YGO very heavily back in 2013/14. The meta then was loose enough that our reject rogue decks could do decently well in tournies because we were good players. Then Nekroz launched in 2015 and the game just sped up to a point where you could not keep up. Some people may like that sure, but I don't enjoy trying to play the game only to get hit with a hand trap turn 1 and then spending 20 minutes just sat their bored as they pull off a combo to lock me down. A Synchro only format would be something I'd love as Synchros are my favourite ED monsters and they're the decks I have the most fun running. Giving players the ability to update old Synchro decks or homebrew completely new versions of decks would bring a lot of interest back to the game. MtG is arguably bigger than ever and a lot of that is down to the fact people have so many ways of playing the game, to the point it's a meme among fans. But Konami offers no support to non-meta fans.
@@ultimatetadpole9607 yeah MTG was what I was thinking of. I agree to your point about the speed of the game. I was never a great player, but at least even when my decks lost, I got to play the game, play my deck etc. I think the sign of a great game is when you get to play / engage with the game even if you are a losing player. As negation effects became more and more common and easier to access, the interaction between players became more about not letting each other play instead of building advantage over time to swing the game in your favor turn by turn
As someone who played basically up to the GX era and the start of Synchro, it's terrifying to see how much this game's power creep has risen.
Yu-Gi-Oh has an evergreen nature unmatched by any other card game.
There has NEVER been a card that was as overpowered as Chaos Emperor Dragon was during its reign. Yes, there are cards that are better than it is now, but for the time it was released in? Absolutely broken beyond belief. There is no way someone sober read the text of that card and thought it was good to print. They HAD to be on something; I REFUSE to believe that anyone who knows anything about game design or balance would ever make something like that..... aaaaand that answers my question.
Didn’t that card get a pendulum retrained? I don’t remember that much.
@@VelvetMagician It's gotten an errata
Silent Magician2000 Yes, it’s called Chaos Emperor, The Dragon of Armageddon.
Chaos Emperor Dragon is perhaps still the strongest monster even to this day released by Konami.
Only contenders I can see are Makyura and Firewall Dragon. I do not think Chaos Emperor with its original effect is healthy considering he is so easy to get to the hand and trigger every GY effect including wiping out everybody's hand. Dragons have gotten ALOT of support lately. If his effect gets negated, simply just Special Summon him again from the GY and do it again with REDMD or guardragons.
Yea i remember learning about that card as a kid. Going nuts thinking it was so strong. Go play at locals try and pull one out and BAM! bottomless- trap hole. People used to actually PLAY the game, y'know, when it involved strategy...
Perfectly Ultimate great moth beatdown should be Tier 0.
Day 8: of asking Duellogs to make top 10 best archetype specific link monsters. pls.
It would be easy. It would be better to review each archetypal link and how good does it help the archetype
Petra is best girl Stop copying such a moron as Payne96
Petra is the best girl
Ultimate blue eyes white Dragon is still the strongest card in the game 1
Scrap wyvern
"Sure! ban the best cards as soon as I spent a fortune on them!"
that was fun when nekroz got hitted like instantly when they came out
Well broken cards and combos that are basically unbeatable destroying the game so it makes sense... Im sure some people still have nightmares about the Yata-lock 😓
And please lets not talk about Zoodiacs
I remember a tournament I won at my local game shop back in the day...
My opponent in the last round was SO sure he was going to beat me!
I picked up my hand and looked at it to see 3 Robbin' Goblins, Dark Hole, and Heavy Storm. Draw my card to start my turn...
YATA GARASU!
Thinking to myself:
"Poker Face, Chad... POKER FACE! Fight the urge to laugh maniacally!"
That's exactly the point of Konami making money out of this game. They need to balance out the fun and the money you give them. They can't let a deck remain consistent for too long, because people will spend less money since they only have to update their already existing deck.
Honorable mention: Six Samurai before Gateway of the Six was banned
Angelo Adorno :D
Gateway is at 3 in the OCG
@@cydra-evolution5623 gateway was banned in the tcg only to get limited just when the link era started
Tier 0 six sam in tcg was the eithet 14 days or 26 days of it having Gateway at 3 during 5D era though. It immediately drop to Tier 1 alongside Neos Beatdown after that
@@screwtokaiba It wasn't tier 0. Blackwings had almost an even matchup against 6 sams when they had triple gateway.
LOVE THIS CHANNEL SO MUCH. I would really like it if you would do more Tier 0 decks ranging all the way back in the 2000s until now in the 2020s. That would be pretty rad, something like a history lesson perse.
@4:36 wow. I had decided to make a dark themed deck back when I played as a kid, centered around a few key dark cards including Vampire Lord (prior to that Vampire Structure deck). Actually getting Vampire Lord, as a kid with no way to really make money, was so huge. Every big card was, like buying Black Tyrano. Eventually I won a ObIlesk The Tormentor card in a tournament because of it, and I had figured out ways to start putting things in the grave. Having you explain the Dark Armed Dragon arch. Like that suddenly makes it make sense as to why it worked so well.
I didn’t actually have that dragon but wanted it so bad. And dueling network made that a dream.
I also had a water deck based around A Legendary Ocean dropping 5 star water monsters to 4, and I actually got a Legendary Fisherman Card. That was pretty dope as a kid. As well as cards like catapult turtle and Orcha Mecha Fortress of Darkness suddenly became way more useable. That was def pre 2010 tho haha
I remember when Nekroz players thought that Sophia was going to make them tier 0
Sophia, Goddess of Rebirth or its Ritual version?
They got so close too 63%
once again , say some nekroz players not all of them in general or straight up shut up.
Sebarsh Thumbadoo you know which version 🙄
@@rdc6360 don't be rude
What player do with firewall dragon: FTK extra link SPYRAL combos gem-knight FTK danger dark World FTK link spam.
What playmaker does: 7300 ATK for 5 seconds before finishing revolver and then never touching that card ever again until he met zaizen, but then he didn't use it until he fought 2 random gouki users and then again against revolver and then he used it for the last time against go. He used its SS broken effect ONCE! HE ALWAYS USED ITS BOUNCE EFFECT, BUT SOMEHOW IT GOT IT WRONG AGAINST ZAIZEN. HOW DO U MAKE YOUR OPPONENT GO +2!!
And people call that his ace monster
Firewall dragon is the only Ace monster that has been neglected by the protagonist. Yusaku really didn't like the card.
Where are Volcanics? Oh right, they can't be tier 0 without new support...
Day 298 of waiting for new Volcanic support to arrive
(I actually don't want any deck to be tier 0, because it destroys the fun from this game)
This is getting old, do a vid on your volcanic deck list. In the mean time..........
Life is Payne
ricky flores Preach!
The legend himself is here in the comments
That moment when the Yu-Gi-Oh community has their own version of Justin Y
Even when a card's limited, it's really hard to build an entire deck around it. DAD basically just became a nice card to draw in dark decks, and something like Dino Rabbits kind of disappeared once Rescue Rabbit was limited.
I just search for DAD with Witch of the Black Forest. I added him to my Yubel deck because I thought it would be funny, which it was.
This really helped me better understand what players mean when they reference these cards/decks/plays. Thanks
This needs to be updated with the strongest deck ever conceived, Tearlaments
Ryzeal deck, would destroy any deck!
Only 5? To be fair this is a list with some of the most crazy, powerful decks the entire game had. Great in depth video too
Such a shame that E.Drags and spellbooks are not on this list because by definition they aren't tier 0. E. Drags, literally the best monster core ever made. And spell books had the best card ever made being spell book of judgement.
I was going to say, " what no dragon rulers?"
But im glad i see someone giving the boys some recognition. They literally banned all four of those cards
@@laundrysauce1263 Yea if either deck was released separately from each other they both would be tier 0 but because they were in the same format they kinda balanced each other out.
i remembered back then on my local area of YGO tournament when DR and spellbook were still at that peak, people just called it "Tale of Battle between the Magician and the Dragon" its really intense, I had so much fun and also good memories
SPYRALs were a nightmare when I faced them. I almost defeated one deck using hero's with dark law, but I made misplays and ended up losing to that deck. That was when I discovered how broken SPYRALs
Was about to ask how you didn't mention Tearlements then realised the video is 4 years old
I would wanna see these decks face off against each other. So far I saw in the finals a full powered dragon rulers vs spellbook of judgement
vishmaster09 :D
I thought full powered Dragon Rulers would have made this list
Spellbooks keep them in check during the entire Full Power Rulers time, even the finals of one World Championship was Spellbooks vs Full Power Rulers.
well, they didn't, but they have the moral victory of being more broken
It's a case of unstoppable force meeting an immovable object. When two tier zero decks coexist at the same time then neither of them become tier zero. Even though they both have the power to become tier zero on their own without the other existing.
Whit the power of Spellbooks and Rulers we really only need one more Tier 0 deck (or Tier 0 "power level" deck) for a 8 spot tournament.
@@ItzMiKeKirbY I think it can also be defined as power creep if not somewhat extreme. It's just that LTGY was a bit ahead of its time introducing support and an archetype that wouldve been considered good if it came out in 2016 nvm 2013
there's also the "6 samurais deck" before being nerfed that was played at like 65-75%, while the synchro plant being at around 15-25%, and the rest being anti-meta decks, but that was not near the teledad deck.
I was playing synchro plant at the time before both decks were heavily nerfed.
Man. How did players feel about the meta?
Yeah they hit my PePe deck pretty hard almost immediately when it was released, the difference is though I looked at the new Pendulum mechanics as more of a "Revival" of older cards. Normal monsters were relevant again, normal AND older monsters. So that's what I did, I had two Pendulum decks, one was for my "Normal Revival" deck which just had a bunch of power house normal monsters levels 7 to 8. The second Pendulum deck was for my DM deck which was incredibly powerful and I'm surprised that not very many people played it considering the Xyz & Synchro capabilities, Pendulums were just the engine that made its older Spell Counter engine obsolete, though you still took some of the Spells that were good for a DM deck along with it like Dark Magic Attack, Thousand Knives, Spellbook, etc.
If more people had just simply caught on and accepted to adopting a Pendulum engine, they'd realize just how much more powerful their own personal & favorite decks would become. I can still remember the complaints when Pendulums first came out saying the mechanic was "too difficult" to understand, whether they were trolls or simply that ignorant, it made no sense that they couldn't catch on very quickly.
I don't have a problem with the mechanic itself. I just think the cards needed less text to compensate for having two text boxes. This is why I greatly prefer Majespecter and Metalfoes over Abyss Actors etc
I remember that the Scapegoat/Metamorphosis/Thousand-Eyes Restrict Combo was just as annoying as the Yata-Lock back in the day.
By the way, there's a far lesser known lockdown using the Mystical Knight of Jackal.
Fun fact. The yata lock was so bad it made the A.I. for Yu-Gi-Oh videogames surrender
It just saves time instead od just passing your turn and take like 100 damage until you lose
@@chendror872 yeah I know but it's still am interesting tidbit
@@DarkSymphony777 it is
3:30 lol
(sees dancostello smirking) shut it! i jumped the gun
Random Yu-Gi-Oh video appears in recommended, click on it and instantly get surprised to see that it's Hirumaredx.
I remember I was playing at a local, my opponent chose to go first, when I saw that first performapal I just surrendered the match haha. I just didn't feel like watching this dude do his setup knowing I was gonna get destroyed.
I got into Magic recently and Oko reminds me so much of BLS, Envoy of the Beginning. Ridiculously easy to summon, hard to get rid of, and completely insane board control effects. And basically, it's a card that nearly any deck can use even if it has zero synergy with the rest of the deck, because it's that good.
Yeah, Oko is only OP in weaker formats...
@@philithegamer8265 bruh it broke legacy
and its very useful in vintage
It's worth noting that I was winning in 2017 with Barrier Statues. Necrovalley and Mistake put in so much work.
top 5 tier 0 deck duel links
5. Six Samurai Full Power
4. Koaki Meiru Full Power
3. Cyber Angel Full Power
2. Restructor Revolution Burn
1. FTK bamboo burn
Six Sams should definitely be Top3, if not #1
Amazoness Full Power
6.amazoness
Sylvans, Fur hire, Darklord, Invokers?
Exodia and Ninjas decks!
I actually thought dragon rulers would be number 1. Cause even in today time, them at full power would jump straight to tier 0 with link support since they didnt even need their extra deck. Possibly the best engine
Edit I got to the end, and I see why they weren't included. They didnt classify as tier 0 though they were there in power
Eh, honestly the Rulers wouldn't be anything close to tier 0 in today's format.
@@sigurdvickery3523 are you including the buff dragon support? Cause without them dragon decks are very strong how would including them not just break them? They can never put them at a disadvantage
well if spellbooks didn't have judgement, then that be the case.
@@isaacvitela5131 they managed to keep up but they didn't beat them. They just kept the placements low but dragon rulers were still winning
@@sigurdvickery3523 imagine guard dragon ruler
I wasn’t playing at the time and just recently got back in YGO.... but I would have loved to duel Spyral and Pepe at full power. Obviously I would have lost. But seeing the decks at full power and the plays they made would have been cool to see lol
check lithium channel for cross banlist tournament. he has those deck fighting each other.
@@absentmindedshirokuma8539 Neither Spyral or PePe are in the CBC right now though
:D
Belive me, it wasnt nice
full power Spyral was pretty fragile , very good Spyral players altered their playstyle to a slower resource gain control & beatdown style for bad match ups while most other Spyral players got bopped by the Invoked & Trickstar handtrap control decks after overcommiting, ^.^ those were the ones I played during that format.
Honorable Mention: Lightsworn Deck
Sorta. Lightsworns as an archetype have seen competitive play since release and haven’t really stopped, but they’ve never been good enough to be tier 0. They are a great engine though.
Yo does this guy have a world of warcraft channel as well? Voice and style seems to be the same. If so I'm glad I found their second channel!
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lol imagine Spyral with triple fix, drones and resort with the link monsters we have now
Geoff Anthony Valčić :D
Imagine if sky strikers and salamangreat was at full power
Nibiru is a thing as is Dark Ruler No More. DRNM actually shits on Spyral so hard it's not even funny.
@@thameekstaninjahman8337 full power striker just gets destroyed by other decks getting boosted by drones at 3, we've seen this already, & full power Salad is incredibly solid & makes almost every other control/grind deck obsolete but also ultimately is only tier 1, '.' this we've also seen.
ok but where's summoned skull beatdown
Apparently Chaos decks are the "beginning" of Tier 0. I guess everyone wants to forget Beatdown being so simple. lol I think Chaos was when power creep really started though, other than monster stats going up.
Maybe thats because in 2002 the world championship still doesnt exist until 2003 with the hand control deck...
PePe would be even more fearsome with Electrumite
Its a different MR. You cant rlly say that. Without MR4, PePe is at its strongest I think tbh since there were no restrictions at all for their mechanics
I think spellbook decks with judgement was the most broken "tier 0" deck, goat control could also be considered the first tier 0 deck
Judgment Spellbooks weren't really tier 0 since full powered Dragon Rulers were around when they were, and was arguably a better deck.
And chaos control predates Goat format, plus goat control was such a nebulous term that calling it tier 0 is questionable.
Wasn't spellbook of judgement banned less than half a year after it released? Barely got to use it.
Even then, dragon ruler was way better and easier to pilot.
@@-8h- They were around the same power level.
@@N12015 And, as the video said, both were preventing each other from becoming tier zero
Its not even arguable. Check the tops. Dragon ruler was 80% of the field. Spellbooks were getting the scraps.
Why are Heraklinos and Gyzarus in the Tele-DAD-Decklist at 3:39? I don‘t see a way to summon them in this particular deck, cam someone explain pls?
Goyo Guardian + Mind Control + Monster Reborn
You were playing against a Gladiator Beast deck, you were good... keep in mind that there wasn't a lot of generic synchros, so the extra deck often had space for random shit.
(I think this is it, idk)
Dirty Grimes ah yes that makes sense thanks
What about top 10 cards with retrains, ie Magician of Black Chaos -> Dark Magician of Chaos?
Jaime L :D
Dragon Rulers were arguably a tier 0 deck when Judgment was banned, and the D-Rulers themselves were all still at 3 for a single format. Like I said, arguable.
No Dragon Rulers and no Nekroz? What?
Edit: Just saw the end of the video that explained why dragon rulers aren't on the list, nvm
@boxxer gaming oh
Zoodiac i would say is the genesis of how Konami designs top tier decks now, ridiculous consistency, godly comeback potential, the ability to be put in as a consistency engine. Sky Striker is my favorite variant of this design philosophy just cause it could actually be sided against amd was clearly designed with certain stop gaps you could hit that would slow their (multi) roll. I think Konami has learned and gotten better at balancing ridiculous consistency and power.
1: I have personally seen ai ff from a Yata Lock, it was in the DS game Spirit Caller, I did it against Crowley and that was the only time in the entire game a character surrendered.
2: In the TeleDAD era, the only deck that was able to compete in the slightest with it was Lightsworn, but it was generally understood that TeleDAD was objectively better.
3: Crush Card Virus was also around for a bit of the TeleDAD format and was swiftly banned with it's then current text along with Disk Commander. The only reason you didn't see more Crush Cards at the time was because it was so stupidly rare that there weren't enough to put in all of those decks. I remember that it was so rare that there were rumors running around that Crush Cards were sometimes hiding in the actual cardboard packaging of the Gold Series pack so everyone actually took the time to disassemble each box they bought.
there's a jumpscare at 19:00 everyone just warning you
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@@xv2189 !!!!!!
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Thanks for making a video explaining to people what tiers are. It's disappointing when I see someone like Tombox (or was it Cimo?) state heroes are tier 1.5 and just throw out statements like that. Also, was Nekroz ever tier 0? I feel like I recall it being the best deck with Djinn at the time but I could be wrong since DUEA format was around then
Nekroz still had some competition from Qliphort and Burning Abyss decks.
Nekroz was tier 1 never 0
I can't believe Feind decks using Dark Necrofear/Dark ruler never competeded at these levels. It's the deck I played for years and beat all the other decks of that era 8/10 times. Something about negating all the destruction effects and stealing the big monsters they didn't like.
Yeah, its interesting what seems overpowered when played among you and your friends. I remember back in 2006 my deck of choice was this gren maju type deck powered by skull lair and self replacing monsters. It tended to win a lot, but now that im older and understand card game theory better I know why it didn't take over the metagame (back in the day I assumed it was because Tournament players were all just metasheep with no imagination or skill compared to me lol)
The Spellbook/DR not being Tier 0 at the end is the biggest "UM ACKTUALLY" rule shark I've ever seen 😂
Just before Link monsters came out I created a variation of the supreme king dragon staving venom deck adding admityle. Making a 12800 ATK beatstick with room for a lot of other plays. I'm glad link came, this deck was op and you could chease your opponent easily
12800 is a freaking lot
Literally who thought Yata-Garasu was a good idea
5) I like the Chaos archetype.
4) The deck the school bully played (true story)
3) Meh... I stopped being Competitive by this point.
2) I dislike the artwork of all these cards
1) I've only now realized they're called SPYrals, because they're all secret agents and Spies. That's kinda cool.
I just have a heart attack when you say "Zoodiac" again.
Absolute a fantastic video keep up the great work man. Beautifully made. Also definitely brought some PTSD from Zoos.
This was basically a list of decks that took "Watch your opponent play Solitaire" to ridiculous extremes. It's extremely annoying to sit there during a zoodiac or spyral combo.
Chaos Yata was the most tier 0 deck of all time. If you did not play that deck, you instantly lost before the match even started.
I feel like Konami loves to Nerf decks that are actually fun to play. Because why else would you host an event where people have mastered making certain deck types, only for them to be heavily nerfed in a way that may not be near as fun
Well first, "fun" is relative. I find playing Plunder Patrol fun, and that's never been touched by the banlist.
Secondly, are you implying the decks on this list were nerfed purely for being fun to play? That's even MORE relative. Even most of the players playing these decks at the time were sick of them, and demanded the banlist get involved.
The funniest part about yata lock is that you can trick the AI in old games to surrender even if you can’t pull off the yata lock.
You can also do a similar thing with real players. I remember I was running some shitty home brew with Sangan in it and my opponent just surrendered. He thought I had the funny. I did not have the funny
Friend of mine had a duel. Opponent summons yata, attacks. "I win"
Friend: "...why?"
"I got yata"
"...well play it out"
*turn passes, cannot play cause no hand*
*15 turns of only having yata as the attacking monster later opponent decks otu*
"BUT! BUT I HAD YATA! I WIN!"
Remembering when cyber angels and fur hires came along and made me stop playing duel links.
Michael Collins :D
screw FH :(
You stayed longer than I did, I quit duel links the moment golden bamboo sword came out, thats the moment I know the game is going to get unhealthy
I used to play fur hires just because I got lucky enough to get all the cards and liked the archetype (I played for a bit after they got nerfed too but got bored when Six Sams came up) I remember always hating the Vampire matchup. Not because I usually lost those, but because my god do you have to do a lot of reading. Any time I saw someone summon Retainer or whatever I just sat my phone down and waited for their turn to be over.
Edit: gonna keep this reply up until the hate starts piling in from all the FH haters because I know they're coming. Once that happens I'll probably delete it so I don't have to deal with it. It was like two years ago.
Damn rich people
I'm trying to get back into the game after six years and your channel seems to be verry informative
I havent played yugioh since i was a kid, but im binging your videos because you do such a good job explaining everything and there is no fluff or bull crap. Sick channel mate.
Does anyone know any good websites, RUclips channels, etc. that showcase these decks at full power? Preferably both the deck recipe and combos (like a tutorial)? I’m a more casual yugioh player I’ll admit, but I’ve been enjoying the Nintendo switch game legacy of the duelist, link evolution and was hoping to try them out! But most of my searches just lead to poorly dated or poorly explained vids or descriptions, which hasn’t really helped sadly
go at hdhdhdhdhh yugioh video
@@rdc6360 That's not an answer bruh...
12:56 drident actully backs with the new ocg banlist
Louai Hadjadj :D
they're keeping Orcust though '.'
And now at 1 in the tcg
Worst Special Summon from the deck
Red eyes metal dragon
Dark sage
:D
Chen Dror and metalzoa
@@Joemam024 yea
13:14 - 13:23
"Because what beats a Deck that's hyper-consistent and can go +5 easily? How about Decks that can do the exact same thing while also getting a whole bunch of Negates on the board?
I understand you were leading into PePe and SPYRAL's, but I couldn't help the image of Infernities popping into my head. Triple summoning Trishula and other powerful Synchro's while filling the backrow with Infernity Barrier to Negate EVERYTHING. I swear it was almost like a precursor.
@TheDuelLogs do you also do world of warcraft videos?
I saw on one of Farfa's videos about the best decks of all time that Tele-Dad took up 100% of a particular event.
It was an Shonen Jump Championship, which made the deck get an emergency list in the day after
:D
I started playing spyrals before links and I always just thought they were cool, so I remember I was psyched when links came around and I has this super powerful deck all put together already kmao
Honorable Mention: Gouki Knightmare.
A deck that made pseudo-FTK's, and it was so degenerate, that or you drew the perfect hand of handtraps, or you scoop.
You could play 3 ash 3 ogre and 3 Sphere mode, statistically you could get atleast one and disrupt that deck, but tbf ash pre-soulburner wasn't cheap
@@kinoalove5817 3 veiler
2017 was probably one of the worst years for yugioh, not only because of the 2 tier 0 decks, but master rule 4 being a thing, forced people to play a way that other mechanics never did. I know too many people who quit the game that year that it was not even funny. I just decided to focus on school since it seemed a waste of time. Currently in 2020, I know people planning on coming back because of master rule 5(or master rule 4.5, whatever u want to call it).
I feel when talking about "The best decks of all time" you need to do so within their historical context.