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  • Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
  • 100,000s of dead; mass graves; public executions; a growing refugee crisis. The narco wars of Latin America are beginning to look more and more like open warfare.
    Ioan Grillo has spent two-decades reporting from the front line of the cartel warzone - spending time with sicarios, traffickers, special forces troops, and the innocent victims caught up in the most intense conflict zone of the War on Drugs.
    In News on Drugs, writer JS Rafaeli chats to fellow drug nerds about their studies to tackle some of the biggest questions in the crazy world of mind-altering substances.
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  • @hannuback
    @hannuback 2 года назад +1173

    Makes me really appreciate how easy life has been. Not that I never had any problems, but the scale is just so different it's hard to comprehend.

    • @mohamedbenhamida3748
      @mohamedbenhamida3748 2 года назад +60

      People adapt. In my country the median house is over hundred times the median salary and I never knew that wasn't normal till today. We accept the reality of the world we are born into.

    • @DonVinny
      @DonVinny 2 года назад +3

      @@mohamedbenhamida3748 dude what is your country?

    • @mohamedbenhamida3748
      @mohamedbenhamida3748 2 года назад +18

      @@DonVinny Tunisia, North most africa

    • @HawaiiDEEPS
      @HawaiiDEEPS 2 года назад +1

      @@mohamedbenhamida3748 A punto. We're used to the environment in which we live.

    • @nateb4543
      @nateb4543 2 года назад +23

      A reality check here and there is healthy. A reminder that often the things we complain about are trivial

  • @azulgarrett6305
    @azulgarrett6305 2 года назад +1166

    This story really takes me back. I was on assignment in Mexico as a photojournalist 15+ years ago. One day I found myself with my head between two AK47s. I'm one of the lucky ones to be here today watching this. God bless my friends and colleagues that didn't make it. Unfortunately, this insanity continues.

    • @Jake-fm5oe
      @Jake-fm5oe 2 года назад +26

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

    • @domdior9544
      @domdior9544 2 года назад +126

      @@Jake-fm5oe what’s funny

    • @fastlifepablo
      @fastlifepablo 2 года назад +109

      @@Jake-fm5oe why did you like your own comment 😭

    • @punctual7
      @punctual7 2 года назад +31

      @@Jake-fm5oe why are you laughing

    • @domdior9544
      @domdior9544 2 года назад +18

      @@fastlifepablo your name though 😭😭

  • @s-b6218
    @s-b6218 2 года назад +120

    This guy was asking fantastic questions. Great interview

  • @georgef1176
    @georgef1176 2 года назад +313

    Mr. Grillo is real. It’s good too see legit journalists

    • @Arguematic
      @Arguematic 2 года назад +1

      to

    • @robalexander2016
      @robalexander2016 2 года назад +1

      @@Arguematic tooo*

    • @KingSG_
      @KingSG_ 2 года назад +3

      Grillonautas is legit to and ethnically Mexicano.

    • @user-by6yc8yl7v
      @user-by6yc8yl7v 2 года назад +1

      Too

    • @KingSG_
      @KingSG_ 2 года назад +2

      @pedro collins so you trust a gabacho who only visits Mexico once in a while instead of raza who actually live in Mexico and experience it.

  • @MILOgirl1
    @MILOgirl1 2 года назад +23

    Refreshing journalism, its really good to finally see some authentic content

  • @dosantosbojan
    @dosantosbojan 2 года назад +42

    Great video!
    Well documented, excellent guest and nice visual production.

    • @vice.nor.virtue
      @vice.nor.virtue 2 года назад +1

      Pff the lighting of that interview was questionable, but yeah everything else was good.

  • @Spartos83
    @Spartos83 2 года назад +311

    The ruthlessness of the cartel is like a bad nightmare that turns into reality. Don’t get involved or mess with them or you’ll end having someone sadistically taking demonic pleasure with your mutilated body or decapitated head.

    • @alexstrauss5264
      @alexstrauss5264 2 года назад +20

      best not to get involved but if you have to be a producer not a dealer and if CJNG is near ya keep your morality in check.

    • @theobserver9131
      @theobserver9131 2 года назад +24

      If drugs were legal, there would be no cartel.

    • @DineroSucio754
      @DineroSucio754 2 года назад +75

      @@theobserver9131 yes there would, they just wouldn't concentrate on drugs anymore

    • @barnacleboi2595
      @barnacleboi2595 2 года назад +14

      @@DineroSucio754 True, but at least removing drugs from their grasp would severely hurt their bottom line

    • @Ryan88881
      @Ryan88881 2 года назад +42

      @@DineroSucio754 Without the profits from drugs though they lose the vast majority of their intimidation ability as well as their political protection. Most crimes simply aren't nearly as profitable as selling drugs are. Even without just the funds from cocaine alone, that would be an enormous loss of money and power for them. So even if you legalized just blow, that itself would radically change the state and strength of these criminal groups in Latin America. They will still exist without drugs but they will by that point be an absolute joke compared to what they once were.

  • @oblivionzzzmike
    @oblivionzzzmike 2 года назад +297

    This is great public service and raising awareness. Props to these capable, driven individuals... and Vice for putting them in the spotlight. Always glad to see Vice 2010 like charm. I live in a country where drugs, black market and money laundering plays a major role in society. Many people seem to have succumbed to this reality. Too tired to realise the damage it will bring in the long run

    • @robertoperales615
      @robertoperales615 2 года назад

      U said black

    • @TheRealRobertG
      @TheRealRobertG 2 года назад

      The US?

    • @6DeSai
      @6DeSai 2 года назад +2

      For a while vice was under the control of HBO and all we got was like “inside the life of indigenous transgender handicapped prostitutes in the Amazon”

    • @CleverWheels
      @CleverWheels 2 года назад

      @@6DeSai It had a partnership. Still does. Nothing has changed.

    • @ct0903
      @ct0903 2 года назад

      @@6DeSai 🤭👏🤭🤣what you say is gold👏👏👏👏 more more please say more !!!

  • @schuylerkrizay6192
    @schuylerkrizay6192 Год назад +4

    Really enjoying these slightly longer form interviews / docs from vice. JS Rafaeli is doing a fantastic job all of his questions are well thought out and articulated. Great job !

  • @AwokenEntertainment
    @AwokenEntertainment 2 года назад +56

    Love this real journalism!

  • @gregmcb5305
    @gregmcb5305 2 года назад +27

    When you talked about that 80-year-old guy sniffing cocaine off a key that sounded to me like a prime example of responsible for Drug use.

  • @eugenepashch5213
    @eugenepashch5213 2 года назад +10

    Man, I read the Grillo's book years ago, it was an engaging read and been interested in the topic ever since!

  • @timsmith1323
    @timsmith1323 2 года назад +67

    Grillo has a great channel and does some real investigative journalism

    • @netormz2479
      @netormz2479 2 года назад

      Link?

    • @clutch5011
      @clutch5011 2 года назад +1

      @@netormz2479 just search his name here on youtube

    • @DThat492
      @DThat492 2 года назад

      His books are fantastic. Great reads.

    • @KingSG_
      @KingSG_ 2 года назад +2

      I’m not sure who the heck grillo is but there is a channel called grillonautas that shows events that happen in Mexico.

    • @timsmith1323
      @timsmith1323 2 года назад +2

      @@KingSG_ ioan grillo is the English guy they’re interviewing in this video he does a lot of stuff about the cartels

  • @michaelvillarreal4202
    @michaelvillarreal4202 2 года назад +5

    Great reporting thanks

  • @martin-steiner-photography
    @martin-steiner-photography 2 года назад

    You are the best information channel guys. Thank you.

  • @theresawright5350
    @theresawright5350 2 года назад +6

    These stories are so sad and devastating,very hard to comprehend if you ask me!😦

  • @annoythedonkey
    @annoythedonkey 2 года назад +285

    I grew up as a chronically, critically ill child, and have been ever since even as a somewhat middle age guy who has tumors in my spine, pelvis, neck, and eyes. I’m sure glad I didn’t grow up in a place where cartels or war lords dictate everything that happens in the village. I’m really quite lucky to have a roof over my head, and having the opportunity to put some pretty ambitious business goals into motion. Even though with the diagnosis of bilateral tumor involvement of the retina. Count your blessings people your life probably isn’t that bad in comparison to the person who’s reading your comment.

    • @gfuentes8449
      @gfuentes8449 2 года назад +17

      not sure how this has anything to do with the video but ok

    • @danielkenard3822
      @danielkenard3822 2 года назад +4

      I am thankful and grateful may god save us all

    • @annoythedonkey
      @annoythedonkey 2 года назад +6

      @@danielkenard3822 God should just send an astroid humans suck.

    • @comanchedase
      @comanchedase 2 года назад +1

      God bless you man

    • @KingSG_
      @KingSG_ 2 года назад +2

      @Brendan Sullivan you only find it disgusting because this gentleman said he’s glad he no longer lives under the control of your hero’s the cartels.

  • @1krossen
    @1krossen 2 года назад +1

    Excellent commentaries, this is what we need. This journalist knows what he is talking about.

  • @jhon8226
    @jhon8226 2 года назад +19

    I’ll give you an idea about how they recruit kids in favelas in Brazil 🇧🇷. Imagine yourself, in a favela, full of bad things, starvation, unemployment, lack of jobs, lack of education and more… Now, take this kid, living in this hard environment, and seeing every day that the drug dealers have money and status. The average salary with a legal job in Brazil, you will get 800-1200 Reais, very bad. The drug dealer pays the kid 4500 - 6000. Those, who can hang on, without changing to the dark side, suffer from constant confront from militias and drug dealers vs police… All of this happens thanks to the corruption, the money that politicians take out of society, these people, and put in their pockets. When they steal the money, there is no school, hospital, police very badly payment, education, basic structure to live like clean water… Corruption is the word, corruption. Bolsonaro, Lula, both represents that in Brazil.

    • @JudyBarrette
      @JudyBarrette 2 года назад +6

      I see you have an understanding of the situation at its root. In my community there is so such poverty. Still drugs are a huge problem. It is so normalized. It is the people who do not consume which are perceived as odd. Go figure!

  • @clutch5011
    @clutch5011 2 года назад +36

    Ioan being still alive is so impressive.

    • @Tricklarock
      @Tricklarock 2 года назад +3

      That's what I'm sayin'!!!
      It seems as if they don't off white/foreign journalists as quickly as they do to local ones? I guess they're worried about the potential backlash.

    • @slug2ss83
      @slug2ss83 2 года назад +3

      @@Tricklarock it’s more of a tactic to show off or give propaganda for their cartel. They obviously can’t get the same attention with locals bcs local get into their business without permission and often snitch on cartels so cartels just kill them since they know where they live. That’s why it’s easier to cover small crimes or say limited information of a crime scene.

    • @MrFirefly3000
      @MrFirefly3000 2 года назад +1

      He provides free publicity to the different cartels.

    • @ishrendon6435
      @ishrendon6435 2 месяца назад

      ​@Tricklarock yeah they know the cartels it doesnt end well for there finances killing foreign journalist

  • @HenkjanDeKaasboer
    @HenkjanDeKaasboer 2 года назад +84

    This interview really is something else in a good way, especially compared to other interviews discussing the same range of subjects as they do. The interviewer has pretty deep knowledge about the subjects he's inquiring into; I'd wager he knows most of the answers Grillo will give him from statistics judging by his wording - yet he never toots his own horn or tries to comes across as being this knowledgeable. Him being humble, by lack of better wording, and allowing the responding party to really drive their points across makes this interview such a delight to watch. Amazing journalist meets amazing interviewer. They produce something that should be used as an example on how-to, but likely won't ever be used as such. Doesn't make it any less awesome though

    • @guyinthai
      @guyinthai 2 года назад +1

      He has a 2 hour long conversation on Joe Rogan's podcast, if you want to hear more from him about his stories on the Cartels

    • @khaledm8232
      @khaledm8232 2 года назад +1

      Yea look him up he spent soo much time in mexico he knows all about every system there

  • @j.vrooyen7975
    @j.vrooyen7975 2 года назад +68

    Ive been following your work since i saw you on the joe rogan podcast.. you Mr grillo deserve more recognition for your work.. I salute you

    • @creightongerard3895
      @creightongerard3895 2 года назад

      Check out OG Shadow's youtube channel. He's much more raw than Grillo and doesn't like have a college degree or whatever, but does the best english language journalism of the drug war in Mexico IMO.

    • @princesofthepower3690
      @princesofthepower3690 2 года назад +1

      Don’t listen to anyone promoting that fraud OG Shadow Official. The guy is a known drug addict who plagiarises articles from Borderland Beat and Blog del Narco, and passes it off as his own “experiences”. Simply put, don’t listen to that con artist.

    • @KingSG_
      @KingSG_ 2 года назад +1

      @@princesofthepower3690 serio that vato a straight up heringa user

    • @creightongerard3895
      @creightongerard3895 2 года назад

      @@princesofthepower3690 really? Honestly never heard that before. Where did you get that info from? THB, i don't care if he does dope, but obviously if he is plagiarizing that's trash.

    • @yeaight9051
      @yeaight9051 2 года назад

      @@creightongerard3895 I use to watch him but then he just started making he’s own stories that weren’t true at all.

  • @4npushap352
    @4npushap352 2 года назад +30

    I’d like to congratulate drugs , for winning the war on drugs.

  • @Skyrimkid9800
    @Skyrimkid9800 2 года назад +15

    If the rumors are true, Modern Warfare 2022 is gonna have an insane, dark, and gritty campaign based off of everything discussed in this documentary.

  • @seanmcgarrity4082
    @seanmcgarrity4082 2 года назад +12

    This guys book El Narco is incredible, highly recommend.

  • @danlc3520
    @danlc3520 2 года назад +6

    Would love to see more covering of el Mayo from you guys! 👍🏻

  • @trj1442
    @trj1442 2 года назад +6

    It's shows like this that makes Vice one of the best channels on RUclips. Well done folks.

  • @gennadiimanichev6093
    @gennadiimanichev6093 2 года назад +5

    There's also a good point from the author about the police and its difference in various countries. Where you can be safe about talking to police about unlawful actions in countries like Britain, and when there is a corrupt and violent police in Russia, where you are afraid of going in order not to make things worse. That's a really good point...

    • @gfuentes8449
      @gfuentes8449 2 года назад +1

      lol police in the UK don't care unless it's a h"te crime. Hundreds of people flooding in every day to scam the system nothing happens, but if you make an offensive tweet and your skin hue is wrong it's jail time

  • @dannygroom3327
    @dannygroom3327 2 года назад +29

    Look at what prohibition did to the US, and look who supplies the weapons and look who is the end consumer?

    • @undr_guv_surv
      @undr_guv_surv 2 года назад +3

      US only supplies 10% of the weapons. Media has misrepresented data with 90% that isn't even 90% of confiscated guns

    • @dannygroom3327
      @dannygroom3327 2 года назад +1

      @@undr_guv_surv yes you're right 10% is enough to kill thousands,

    • @elcombate829
      @elcombate829 2 года назад +3

      @@undr_guv_surv where are you getting that number from?

  • @mankuzos1473
    @mankuzos1473 2 года назад +1

    Love how cartoon scenes add to the seriousness of the interview

  • @flyinsaucer138
    @flyinsaucer138 2 года назад

    on point thanks for this

  • @LoveMyPeople04
    @LoveMyPeople04 2 года назад +70

    Damn the world is a terrifying place. You got gangs, warlords, terrorist groups….smh

    • @GateKeeper36
      @GateKeeper36 2 года назад +24

      Hardcore child abusers, animal abusers, thrill seeking killers, there's more darkness than good.

    • @WiIdbiII
      @WiIdbiII 2 года назад +5

      That is the reason I choose to be just as well armed as they are.

    • @vice.nor.virtue
      @vice.nor.virtue 2 года назад +4

      @@GateKeeper36 Hmmmm, I'm not convinced by that. I wonder about something called the master-narrative which is basically how a god can view earth and see what we're doing. The closest anyone can come to that is by being on the ISS for a few months and doing a lot of researching international sociology. Humans LOVE conflict, but I don't think it's the default mode of the human race. I believe that there are so many people who live and work in peace, and many of them are from super poor countries and just want to put food on their table in any way possible. Thismajority of the human population never makes headlines because well.......It's a humble boring existence.

    • @IramCoercere
      @IramCoercere 2 года назад +3

      @@GateKeeper36 you can only see the bad, thats why you think there is morr darkness in the world, but there is also much good out there

    • @GateKeeper36
      @GateKeeper36 2 года назад +2

      @@IramCoercere Of coure, it's actually just a guess. I'm very aware there's lot of good people and beautiful things in our world.

  • @wolfinthesuit
    @wolfinthesuit 2 года назад +4

    My weekly dose of drugs, I mean cartel videos

  • @MrReds4eva
    @MrReds4eva 2 года назад +6

    1:14. literally destroying the 'illegal' drugs as he smokes a cigerette . The absurd levels of irony got me fucked up

  • @jaylu7021
    @jaylu7021 2 года назад +51

    Lets be real. The US and Europe love their cocaine. And where do you think it comes from and who processes it and moves it. As long as their business they keep doing what they do.

    • @desireec2836
      @desireec2836 2 года назад +4

      fun fact; 9/11 impacted the illegal trade of ecstasy significantly. people would smuggle it from the netherlands and after 9/11 with more security less ecstasy was able to get to the united states.

    • @mysterioanonymous3206
      @mysterioanonymous3206 2 года назад +3

      Just about every culture, during any period, has had its own version of mind altering substances. Betel nuts, mushrooms, fermented sugars aka. alcohol, tobacco, caffeine, weed and hash, frog poison, opium, mixtures of ingredients like ayahuasca, coca leaves, and the list goes on. Entire cultures and religions have been formed around psychodelic experiences. But here comes you, thinking that "Europe and the US loves its coke". Well perhaps those are the wealthy markets and thus experience more induced demand than poorer nations, no?
      It's just human nature to "get high" and no amount of prohibition will ever change that. So f'in legalise the stuff already so we can finally move past false morality and manage this issue scientifically.

    • @taylortaylor5854
      @taylortaylor5854 2 года назад

      @@mysterioanonymous3206 i never get high, drink, or smoke in my whole life, and i don't want to do it. Is not my nature.

    • @cvgodd1432
      @cvgodd1432 2 года назад

      @@taylortaylor5854 good for you, you’re not missing anything. I wish I never started but I was surrounded by it growing up. By 12 I already smoked weed and by 18 I was smoking heavy everyday, never been a drinker. By 25 I moved on to harder drugs like opioids, and that’s when I completely ruined my life. Opioid addiction is vicious and so hard to stop but one day I’ll stop all of this. I want to live like you, just need food water and sleep to go about your day. Respect ✊🏽.

    • @cvgodd1432
      @cvgodd1432 2 года назад

      @@desireec2836 after 9/11 all of the drug prices in the US sky rocketed. It disrupted a lot of things and it never been the same.

  • @itypethetruthnobshere8975
    @itypethetruthnobshere8975 2 года назад +32

    Money is the only reason for anything. It’s the reason why the world turns. The reason why we do anything

    • @Brandon-xe2se
      @Brandon-xe2se 2 года назад +4

      That and power, desire and some times love

    • @amir3515
      @amir3515 2 года назад +4

      Greed. People want to live lives of excess to the point of destroying their health and then needing large reserves as savings or insurance to offset that destructive lifestyle (heart attack, cancer, other diseases of lifestyle, etc.). You'd be surprised how happy and long you can live with very little If you don't have an insatiable need for excess

    • @anayal8tr130
      @anayal8tr130 2 года назад

      I go fishing to have fun not money

    • @itypethetruthnobshere8975
      @itypethetruthnobshere8975 2 года назад +1

      @@amir3515 whats the point of living when you dont have ish? We are all gonna die in the end. Everyday your life clock expires a lil. Live life to the fullest. Get as much of this money as you can. Eats as much delicious food as you can, see as many things as you can. Have sex with as many woman as you can. Happiness is not the same for everybody. A homeless guy can claim hes happy. Happiness for me along with others is how much money I can make then spend it. Finally die

    • @trader2137
      @trader2137 2 года назад

      people using drugs are the problem, they create DEMAND for it, and they are addicted so they cant stop. One way to solve the problem is to eliminate all the addicted 'people'

  • @elveheim
    @elveheim 2 года назад +18

    I have read all Ioan Grillo`s books, great read!

    • @nonbiological
      @nonbiological 2 года назад +3

      How many books you read in your whole Life?

    • @elveheim
      @elveheim 2 года назад +1

      @@nonbiological A few hundred, how about you?

    • @nonbiological
      @nonbiological 2 года назад +5

      @@elveheim never in my entire life, I never read any book full.
      Just half- Half then I Left.

    • @elveheim
      @elveheim 2 года назад +5

      @@nonbiological Well, it is never to late. What an achievement it will be when you finish a book. I believe in you.

    • @nonbiological
      @nonbiological 2 года назад +2

      @@elveheim hey, you read so many books, so I would like to ask one question.
      You read many minds/books, did they all writers, poet and novelist had same thinking? Or they all had totally different opinions, thinking, imagination?
      Did they all have any, anything common? Like anything common you find, reading all different books?

  • @janmac218
    @janmac218 Год назад +4

    I wish people knew in general that approximately 70 - 90% of weapons used by the cartels are of USA origin. States like mine, Texas, have very loose gun laws that pretty let anyone make a purchase. I didn't know this until this past weekend while watching a documentary on RUclips. This is NOT common knowledge in the US. Gun sales and the types of guns sold unfortunely is a sensitive political topic. Gun laws must be changed at the POINT OF SALE, not reach the market. Thank you for bring this to light.

    • @hhdgdhum
      @hhdgdhum Год назад +1

      Uncle Sam bombed the shite outta middle eastern nations on pretense of WMD but has turned a blind eye to the brutality and evil taking place just south of the border.

  • @jessica-marcellerone4455
    @jessica-marcellerone4455 2 года назад +3

    Good stuff

  • @AgentSmith911
    @AgentSmith911 2 года назад +3

    The money is so huge that it goes deeply into both local and federal government.

  • @grantmyles887
    @grantmyles887 2 года назад +3

    This is really sad 😭😞💔

  • @goldenhaze6880
    @goldenhaze6880 2 года назад

    AAAAAAand another banger about Cartels Drugs Violence. This is what i spend my time looking at. This is what entertainment and journalisme is about.

  • @ANONYMOUS-dz9zc
    @ANONYMOUS-dz9zc 2 года назад

    Excellent video.

  • @hoodedr6
    @hoodedr6 2 года назад +18

    Vice news is the best news channel around.

  • @denzowarmbad5486
    @denzowarmbad5486 2 года назад +75

    This will always be relevant: The love of money is the root of all evil.
    Just like someone said in the comment section, "money is the reason why people do anything" that's not different from my first quote.

    • @ayushchoubey635
      @ayushchoubey635 2 года назад +1

      * most people do anything

    • @railroadforest30
      @railroadforest30 2 года назад +7

      Love of greed is the root of all evil not only the love of money

    • @joselara371
      @joselara371 2 года назад +2

      Money really is evil tho alot of people die over money

    • @DWilliam1
      @DWilliam1 2 года назад +5

      We’ll there is also other evils that have nothing to do with money. I guy kills his wife because she cheats or he’s insecure and abusive or a pedophile rapes a kid or there is a mass shooting at a High School…all pure evil and money is not involved at all.

    • @o0GrayMatters0o
      @o0GrayMatters0o 2 года назад +3

      money is only a tool that can be used for good or bad. that's why he says _the love_ of money is evil, maybe not the root, as i would say the root of all evil is moreso pride than anything else. religious or not, the 7 deadly sins sum it up pretty well.

  • @rodneyechevarria7519
    @rodneyechevarria7519 2 года назад

    Another world news banger 🥶

  • @djohanson99
    @djohanson99 Год назад

    wow, that was mind opening. please watch with an open mind. Shocking what the drug war has done. Seems things will get worse b4 they get better.

  • @Marcosramirez863
    @Marcosramirez863 2 года назад +23

    At this point cartel and corruption is never going to end. It looks like the most influential cartels are always cutting new deals with the american government and in return we get a new season of narcos on Netflix

    • @rigo1124
      @rigo1124 2 года назад +1

      “Deals” lol the devil is a good deceiver

  • @wtfisjuice5207
    @wtfisjuice5207 2 года назад +61

    I love how he admits that when he was young (and dumb) he was anti police. Now, not so much.

    • @thisgame2
      @thisgame2 2 года назад +13

      Most vice watchers will never understand. It's hard to be nuanced about cops.

    • @starblazer6907
      @starblazer6907 Год назад

      @@thisgame2 i see them as victims of the government too. to me the true enemy is the politicians and legislators

  • @adannino1990
    @adannino1990 2 года назад +1

    i live in Mexico, San Luis Potosi to be exact. A city about as small as Fort Worth, Texas, And crazy thing is murder rate is on average 1-2 a day. Almost the same amount as Chicago.

  • @finnilrebna348
    @finnilrebna348 2 года назад +9

    Drugs aren’t bad. People are. The substance itself isn’t the problem. The people misuse of the substance is the problem. Wars on drugs are just ways to control money and people.

    • @timsmith1323
      @timsmith1323 2 года назад +1

      That’s bull as certain drugs have nothing good about them like fentanyl or most opiates you don’t have to misuse some drugs for them to take hold

    • @finnilrebna348
      @finnilrebna348 2 года назад +2

      @@timsmith1323 it’s not drugs that make the choice to go into peoples systems. It’s the people’s choice. Saying drugs are bad is like saying cars or guns are bad. They aren’t, sometimes people make bad decisions while using them though. How is that the drugs or guns or cars fault? It’s not. It’s the persons fault. For making the decision.

    • @timsmith1323
      @timsmith1323 2 года назад

      @@finnilrebna348 you missed the whole point of my msg

  • @galacticmarshin4510
    @galacticmarshin4510 2 года назад +3

    1:19, man pointing at weed like its the devil while holding a cigarette in his hand

  • @shakir1998
    @shakir1998 2 года назад +14

    Ioan Grillo, the guy being interviewed here was on Joe Rogan's podcast, really worth checking out.

    • @lazerhosen
      @lazerhosen 2 года назад +1

      The dude, not the podcast where Joe Rogan just pretends to agree with everybody and usually talks about nearly nothing while making it sound intellectual and profound.
      Here is a perfect example of what I'm talking about in regards to how a JRP episode goes:
      ruclips.net/video/P6Iyg9fznvM/видео.html

  • @thenotoriousvlog5986
    @thenotoriousvlog5986 2 года назад

    Good episode

  • @cody9517
    @cody9517 2 года назад +41

    Thank you vice for another good documentary on drug! I've learned show much more than I didnt think I knew! Always insightful keep it up

  • @hillbillyharris3593
    @hillbillyharris3593 2 года назад +6

    The irony of that army personnel holding a cigarette destroying the herb.

  • @rrsmb7136
    @rrsmb7136 2 года назад +48

    The soldier smoking the cigarrete while seizing the plants of cannabis. Big levels of hypocrisy

    • @theeccentric7263
      @theeccentric7263 2 года назад +8

      I agree. Why is this mind-altering drug bad but this other mind-altering drug is bad? Seems arbitrary.

    • @iamerror1529
      @iamerror1529 2 года назад +2

      @@theeccentric7263 ur right, let's legalize crack and fentanyl

    • @theeccentric7263
      @theeccentric7263 2 года назад +6

      @@iamerror1529 Yes I agree.

    • @iamerror1529
      @iamerror1529 2 года назад +3

      @@theeccentric7263 good, i don't want police on my 6 for shooting some morphine in McDonald's bathroom

    • @rrsmb7136
      @rrsmb7136 2 года назад +6

      @Joe Xavier Just to tell you that cigarretes kill more than 60 thousand people per year. While cannabis has 0 death counts. You can lie to yourself but you wont stop being stupid

  • @cocodora12
    @cocodora12 2 года назад +8

    Im glad because I'm currently covering this topic I do this type of work and work for the govt at the same time commuting from Southern cali

    • @Choppacity80491
      @Choppacity80491 2 года назад +1

      YOU AND YOUR GOVERNMENT IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM

    • @kingcarlos7048
      @kingcarlos7048 2 года назад +1

      R u hiring? Lol

    • @ret1608
      @ret1608 2 года назад

      Through the military or through an agency?
      Asking because I’m trying to do the same lol

  • @abduldon6976
    @abduldon6976 2 года назад +2

    Man like grillo. Good job 👍🏾

  • @Joshmo1234
    @Joshmo1234 2 года назад +26

    Considering the carnage and devastation the drug trade causes legalization seems like a less harmful solution than just managing it.

    • @strafer8764
      @strafer8764 2 года назад

      @Dylan Martinelli indeed. Alcohol is so safe. 100s of thousands of people don’t die directly or indirectly from it every year. I think Alcoholics Anonymous is just people role playing.

    • @dystropyko
      @dystropyko 2 года назад

      Yeah good luck getting the US to legalize it, because if US doesn't legalize the cartels are still an illegal organization Mexico for better or worse is reliant on US economically. US will definitely start sanctioning if Mexico decided to legalize importing of highly addictive drugs to US.

    • @strafer8764
      @strafer8764 2 года назад +1

      @@dystropyko We like are drug dealers to wear lab coats and have degrees.

    • @obligatoryusername7239
      @obligatoryusername7239 Год назад

      Jimmy, drugs should be decriminalized, not made unconditionally legal. Making all drugs legal would mean proliferating addiction.

    • @starstray4326
      @starstray4326 Год назад

      How? That would grow cartels because now you have to manage between cartel made drugs or legal made drugs. You’d also increase drug usage and don’t even use that irrelevant country in your “what aboutism” legalizing drugs doesn’t work. If we had an actual drug war this wouldn’t be an issue.

  • @zurgboy07
    @zurgboy07 2 года назад +3

    R.I.P Sgt Cortez you will be remembered.

  • @paulg3012
    @paulg3012 2 года назад +5

    1:22. Soldier destroying the safest therapeutic substance known to man while smoking a cancer stick.

    • @gfuentes8449
      @gfuentes8449 2 года назад

      Ok Snoop Dogg. Since legalisation, drug violence has increased if anything in the areas that have tried it. Whoopsie

    • @paulg3012
      @paulg3012 2 года назад

      @@gfuentes8449 No, Harry Anslinger, it has not.

  • @shabab5233
    @shabab5233 2 года назад

    nice interesting interview

  • @mcnally211
    @mcnally211 2 года назад +2

    More Grillo!

  • @jpsimas2
    @jpsimas2 2 года назад +51

    what about the millions of poor people in prison for nothing, for selling weed. People getting their ass kicked by a cop for having a joint. This is the real social problem.

    • @trader2137
      @trader2137 2 года назад +10

      true, they should give them death sentences and execute them on the spot, its a waste of tax money to keep them in prisons

    • @IramCoercere
      @IramCoercere 2 года назад +4

      @@trader2137 you better pray to god , that you will never see yourself in such a situation with such a narrow minded views. Typical american

    • @IramCoercere
      @IramCoercere 2 года назад +1

      @@trader2137 you better pray to god , that you will never see yourself in such a situation with such a narrow minded views. Typical american

    • @spergmamale6737
      @spergmamale6737 2 года назад

      @@trader2137 It’s okay to take a black pill every now and then but damn dude, it seems like you took the whole bottle

    • @freddyperez3002
      @freddyperez3002 2 года назад

      @@trader2137 keep doing Crack

  • @lenini056
    @lenini056 2 года назад +3

    "Just say no to everything including harm reduction and rational debate"-Will Carruthers (Spacemen 3/Spiritualized)

    • @semiotikarajatega9118
      @semiotikarajatega9118 2 года назад

      Said the man who make an album called “taking drugs to make music to take drugs to” 😂

    • @lenini056
      @lenini056 2 года назад

      @@semiotikarajatega9118 did you listen to it? ;)

  • @rafliriansyah719
    @rafliriansyah719 2 года назад +2

    yo never expected to see Grillo in VICE, his book is good.

    • @KingSG_
      @KingSG_ 2 года назад

      You’ll never see that sucker on grillonautas working with Mexican journalist.

  • @simeon1163
    @simeon1163 Год назад +3

    Really makes me appreciate living in America.

  • @imtoostonedtocomeupwithaus5976
    @imtoostonedtocomeupwithaus5976 2 года назад +32

    You have have to be fucking crazy to mess with the cartels. Nooooo thank you.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 2 года назад

      There's a lot more violence down there besides the DTOs

    • @theguythatcoment
      @theguythatcoment 2 года назад +5

      The cartel is not the mob, the cartel loves when you mess with them and will look for an excuse in order to torture you to death. If you have something that a sicario lacks (house, car, business, wife or kids) they'll take them away from you and there's nothing you can do about it because government is always on their side.

    • @brndn9423
      @brndn9423 2 года назад +1

      i aint scared of no puss ass cartels , ahahaha yous a bietch lmao X D

    • @imtoostonedtocomeupwithaus5976
      @imtoostonedtocomeupwithaus5976 2 года назад +6

      @@brndn9423 lmao if you see what they do, you would be

    • @Spartos83
      @Spartos83 2 года назад +3

      @@brndn9423 Go on gore websites and search up cartel. I bet you’ll change your comments quickly. For your own safety bro, don’t mess with the cartel- they are serious people. You’d wish they kill but they’ll torture you with every single millimetres of your body.

  • @nzt29
    @nzt29 2 года назад +7

    “What used to be made in the back of camper vans” instantly invoke memories of Breaking Bad

    • @hagdore
      @hagdore 2 года назад

      I an the one who knocks.

    • @gfuentes8449
      @gfuentes8449 2 года назад

      you do realise that's a series dreamed up in a boardroom somewhere right....why do americans need pop culture references to understand things

  • @ihatestupid.people4611
    @ihatestupid.people4611 2 года назад +1

    Its my first time hearing my country jamaica in drug documentary

  • @CH-tt8gk
    @CH-tt8gk 2 года назад

    Vice love a drug story every week for the views

  • @theparamountparamount913
    @theparamountparamount913 2 года назад +75

    I always shocked by the brutality of Drug Cartels in Latin America. In most countries, to kill someone, they just shot you in critical parts of your body. But in Latin America, putting bullets to your body seems not satisfying enough for the Drug Cartels , most of the time, they are cutting of the limb,torso,feet and head of the victims before they put it in black plastic bags and throw it to highways or roads. Others were more unfortunate as they gone missing and never to be found by their families. Jeez, God must be nowhere in Latin America, a predominant Catholic continent.

    • @Cumulo9
      @Cumulo9 2 года назад +18

      thats coz of the native's genes. it got low empathy. those people typically only have empathy for close friends and family. thats why you see those almost comical videos of ruthless cartel bosses literally crying on camera coz their mothers got arrested by the government

    • @DineroSucio754
      @DineroSucio754 2 года назад +9

      I'm South American, and chopping people is something even small gangs do. And alot of times it's even worse than just chopping people

    • @viceralman8450
      @viceralman8450 2 года назад +51

      @@Cumulo9 Racist BS, where were the American empathy “genes” when they invaded half of the world, nuked japan and poisoned Vietnam?

    • @joydevsarkar4474
      @joydevsarkar4474 2 года назад +4

      @@viceralman8450 the term "family is everything" indicates this mentality

    • @truck6280
      @truck6280 2 года назад +1

      @@viceralman8450 we had to do it. They chose too.

  • @mrgeno4682
    @mrgeno4682 2 года назад +4

    People my age thaught we would be able to retire down there.

  • @kostar500
    @kostar500 2 года назад +2

    The torture videos lately are beyond anything I have seen… don’t get curious n search for it. Scary.

  • @iwogajda5253
    @iwogajda5253 2 года назад

    "For the sake of His sorrowful Passion have mercy on us and on the whole world."

  • @jrmc530
    @jrmc530 2 года назад +3

    Dang these 19 minutes seemed like an hour 👌

  • @drigolemos349
    @drigolemos349 2 года назад +7

    👏👏 I congratulate Drugs for winning the war on Drugs 👏👏

  • @david-vb7vl
    @david-vb7vl 2 года назад

    you guys should take a look at the drug situation in ecuador it’s getting pretty out of hand

  • @GunakillyaOG
    @GunakillyaOG 2 года назад +1

    OG shadow gets a lot of fire video and info out of Mexico about the cartel happenings down there. Mad respect for him and what he does. These people too, taking the risk just covering this stuff.

    • @KingSG_
      @KingSG_ 2 года назад +4

      OG shadow is a tecato

    • @richardramirez4177
      @richardramirez4177 2 года назад

      Faxts he's a junkie...there's no respect for someone with a weak kind like that who can't control his pain inside

    • @Roderick_YT1
      @Roderick_YT1 2 года назад

      Oh shadow just read borderland beat lmao 🤣 he’s so fake

  • @fredflintstoner596
    @fredflintstoner596 2 года назад +6

    MAY I JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK DRUG'S FOR WINNING THE WAR ON DRUG'S
    WELL DONE DRUG'S

  • @nofool9621
    @nofool9621 2 года назад +8

    Here to read, " Drugs won the war on drugs," comment.

    • @4npushap352
      @4npushap352 2 года назад

      Keep looking you’ll find it 😉

    • @4npushap352
      @4npushap352 2 года назад

      @Joe Xavier 🤣this guy …
      Drugs are here too stay and unfortunately it makes no difference how they get it, the help these kids/adults need is what they lack.

  • @cann5565
    @cann5565 2 года назад

    Zero emotional connection until the hungry dog walked by.

  • @jeremylamovsky3669
    @jeremylamovsky3669 Год назад

    Ion grillo is great. Was happy to see him on rogans show

  • @argh6666
    @argh6666 2 года назад +13

    - How many times do you plan to recycle the main information on the war on drugs?
    - Vice: Yes!

    • @dylanfriel4789
      @dylanfriel4789 2 года назад

      Since you have the remaining answers, what are you holding out for man???

  • @mayureshgawade3842
    @mayureshgawade3842 2 года назад +3

    1:15 smoking Cigarette in white holding the Marijuana plant is the most pathetic thing I've seen

  • @marcm2668
    @marcm2668 2 года назад

    We need a war on drugs video game

  • @hassanraza-yp4li
    @hassanraza-yp4li 2 года назад +1

    Is Ioan Grillo from punisher series?

  • @tehlumpster
    @tehlumpster 2 года назад +43

    As an active heroin addict. I believe there will always be a supply where the is a demand in any type or drug or weaponry. Good documentary, vice. From the UK 🇬🇧

    • @3haAD900
      @3haAD900 2 года назад +13

      Praying for u 🙏

    • @JudyBarrette
      @JudyBarrette 2 года назад +7

      I see that the dark side of American type of capitalism is the cause of this tragedy. Of course gun makers want to sell as much as possible - and under the current economic model, are encouraged to. Of course people will buy what is available, even if they cannot afford it, even if it is bad for them and even if it is destructive to their communities. Where is morality in this? Where is right and and wrong thinking in this? Where is protection of the public in this? Hope you find your way to a drug free life.

    • @victorchairez1418
      @victorchairez1418 2 года назад +3

      Herion is rough drug man just do some tweak instead

    • @Lin34da9
      @Lin34da9 2 года назад

      just tried heroin for the 1st time couple of days back

    • @neymarjr_.
      @neymarjr_. 2 года назад +16

      stop if you can, its going to destroy your life.

  • @esbato1
    @esbato1 2 года назад +3

    What Americans don't know is that this is happening next door but for some 'unknown' reason they don't seem to really care that they're part of the problem too, seem like they are more interested on other continents

  • @michaelsiengo1
    @michaelsiengo1 2 года назад

    I love the commando checking out the marijuana with a cigarette in his hand

  • @theviscount4622
    @theviscount4622 2 года назад +2

    The war on drugs was the worst decision ever

  • @dextermorgan9703
    @dextermorgan9703 2 года назад +5

    This guys been studying it this long just to tell us the stuff we already know

  • @hg7825
    @hg7825 2 года назад +11

    If u’re in favor of legalization on meth and cocaine, you never had a friend/ family in addiction… literally would destroy society

    • @Kartal49ful
      @Kartal49ful 2 года назад +2

      so what is your´e salution? continue the war on drugs?

    • @hg7825
      @hg7825 2 года назад +2

      @@Kartal49ful Actually every country have his own specificity, like the necessary measures in Mexico would be totally than the Brazilian ones. Can be Penal code reform, can be more billions on social projects … but that’s no universal solution and definitely wouldn’t be legalize drugs that are much more dangerous than marijuana

    • @lazerhosen
      @lazerhosen 2 года назад +8

      Legalization is all about recategorizing drug abuse as a health issue and funding treatment. If you think that people will flock to legal drugs, you're incorrect. When things are legal, their appeal goes way down, as they are not longer "cool."
      I have lost friends to drug overdose and alcohol abuse. Treatment is the answer, not continued criminalization. Regulation of these drugs will make sure they aren't laced with deadlier ones and lower risk of death while addicts seek treatment for recovery... it's been shown over and over again to be the case in places that have attempted this, so please consider the nuance of this issue, rather than thinking of it in black-and-white dualistic terms.

    • @hg7825
      @hg7825 2 года назад +1

      @@lazerhosen first of all if u wanna compared alcohol with meth you really never saw the real impact of heavy drugs in society. Both can destroy your life but the level of addiction and psycho problems is impossible to compare. And dealers and cartels will find other drugs and new contraband to do. The problematic is the easy access to the heavy drugs, it’s not about being “cool” or not is about the level of impact the the cocaine and other drugs do to the human body and mind, and it’s that because marijuana legalization is on discussion and the other drugs not. The solution isn’t the improvement the treatment and free drugs sim society, it is avoid that half of society be like zumbis in the hands of some one selling drugs being from a legalized company or a cartel

    • @hg7825
      @hg7825 2 года назад

      @@lazerhosen btw, “black and white dualistic”? Wtf

  • @bikelife.dh0434
    @bikelife.dh0434 2 года назад

    I like it 🤘🏻

  • @vijayshinde1346
    @vijayshinde1346 Год назад

    Punisher really changed his ways huh

  • @flappy7373
    @flappy7373 2 года назад +11

    I generally don't like how Vice's reports can sometimes hold a heavy bias or have an obvious motive behind them.. But, some of their cameramen are gifted. Truly, some of them are artists with a camera. The shot at 1:16 is really, really good. I dunno if it was done on purpose, but having a soldier smoking a cigarette while pointing to a marijuana bush is a really cool shot. There he is, smoking one plant that has been made legal whose health hazards are equal to or greater than marijuana's own, talking about the dangers of marijuana.

    • @lazerhosen
      @lazerhosen 2 года назад +3

      Health hazards of marijuana compared to tobacco? Bro, one prevents cancer (even greatly reduced cancer risk in tobacco smokers), and one is a major driver of cancer.

    • @flappy7373
      @flappy7373 2 года назад +3

      @@lazerhosen I was just trying to force out some kind of comment to highlight smoking one plant while pointing at another. I don't actually know what I'm talking about.. You see, I'm a little bit of a hypocrite mixed with a touch of idiocy. Forgive me.

    • @lazerhosen
      @lazerhosen 2 года назад +4

      @@flappy7373 It's all good dude, any human that doesn't recognize that we all suffer from hypocrisy and idiocy is kidding themselves.
      Fully agree with your points about their art of filming things well and getting amazing shots. Some of the filming they get away with is insane considering the risks they take.

    • @yuhyuh5674
      @yuhyuh5674 2 года назад +2

      @@lazerhosen you can't seriously tell me a cigarette prevents cancer. Cmon bro

    • @lazerhosen
      @lazerhosen 2 года назад +4

      @@yuhyuh5674 You uh... read that wrong. I was talking about cannabis, which induces apoptosis aka cell-death to stave off mutation that leads to cancer. Also proven to drastically lower lung cancer rates in people who consume tobacco.

  • @gregmcb5305
    @gregmcb5305 2 года назад +29

    It’s insane the affects this war on drug users has had on neighboring countries, this war hurts everyone and yet seems to help no one. Legalization is the only way forward, If we legalize drugs here in the USA that allows these farmers to legally sell their products, hopefully then the cartels will slowly destabilize, or at least stop murdering people.

    • @Mastersargent1000
      @Mastersargent1000 2 года назад +3

      JP Morgan transitions tons of cocain by sea

    • @skaford
      @skaford 2 года назад +9

      How is possible to convert murders into peaceful and kindness seller? Do you have any proof about it?

    • @467076
      @467076 2 года назад +13

      It’s legal in Portland and that place is a disaster. Tons and tons of homeless.

    • @gregmcb5305
      @gregmcb5305 2 года назад +5

      @@skaford Our country created the murders in the first place, United States political policies have the ability to shape whole country’s over time.

    • @gregmcb5305
      @gregmcb5305 2 года назад +1

      this is a long answer sorry about that I hope you can make it to the end) they did not legalize it, they decriminalized it, Portland had issues with homeless people before they decriminalized not the other way around, and you’re not wrong decriminalization is not going to fix the homeless issue, it’s just gonna stop the police from putting people in jail for what they choose to put inside there body. Fixing drug abuse on this large of a scale is a long term investment, it going to take our government allowing doctors to prescribe opioids to users and teach them how to use drugs safely, that will also cut down on crime considerably because users won’t have to spend hundreds of $ a day any more, it should only cost the user what it cost the government plus a tax, our country already regularly buys large quantities of Opioids at dirt cheap for our pharmaceutical industry, this would also cut back on the amount of money we end up sending out of the country to the cartels! And this money would start going to normal farmers instead of cartels. and would also give our country another tax revenue source. Over a long period of time the amount of users will slowly decrease because instead of getting the drugs from a dealer who has a vested interest in their addiction, they are getting it from a Doctor Who hopefully has a vested interest in them getting healthier and living a fulfilling life. My main reason to prove why this would work is if you look at study done in Canada where they gave pharmaceutical grade heroin to users and let the doctor and user figure out the optimum dose, after getting on the program almost every single person was able to start to live a totally normal life and get a job with the help of pharmaceutical grade heroin every day.

  • @Prairiedrifter1
    @Prairiedrifter1 2 года назад +1

    The punisher! Is that you?

  • @chrisrodriguez1685
    @chrisrodriguez1685 2 года назад +2

    Organize crime in the government are part of the same problem they both benefit off one another and they are tied whether they would admit it or not publicly or to someone in the room