Since the rise of the far-right, and qanon, I've stopped being surprised at the stupidity and ignorance of a lot of people. Most people are freaking idiots.
I’m glad to see vice positivity for once. All the insecure white boys complaining every time they see an upload mentioning the left or feminism they have a fucking heart attack
Alcohol is far more dangerous than many illegal drugs. Also, many illegal drugs are only made to be as dangerous as they are due to the illegality of it
@@rauljrlara9994 alcohol is just as bad as heroin. Acid is more of a stigma and cocaine isn’t as damaging long term to your brain. Alcohol withdrawal kills people and heroin withdrawal doesn’t. Heroin is just super addictive because of how good it feels. Alcohol ruins so many more lives than the other drugs you’ve listed.
@@rauljrlara9994 I would bet money that someone who's addicted to heroin (given they are provided the substance easily, safely and legally like alcohol) would be a far better member of society and far less likely to be a danger to that society. Also, if it were legal like alcohol that would already take care of most of the dangers of using it. Idk how you are determining what is safer than alcohol because all these substances would have to be as readily available as alcohol to even begin to prove. As far as the substance itself, cocaine is about equally on par as damaging to the body as alcohol but far less damaging to society. LSD is fairly safe as a substance, given the person partaking is mentally fit and...... Fentynal? Is not even as damaging to the body as alcohol is but that's an idiotic choice for an example. Fentynal is as safe as most other opiates, assuming the person taking it has built a tolerance i.e. they have cancer. It's only dangerous when the cartels cut product to maximize profits and someone does too much on accident (the illegalities of drug use make most drugs unsafe) In conclusion, it's quite plain to see that you have no real world experience or knowledge on what you are trying to argue and know little more than beyond what basic stereotypes have led you to believe.
@@rauljrlara9994 in medical detox, they only FOR SURE GUARANTEE accept 2 different kinds of patients. Heroin addicts because withdrawal is so bad you feel like you're going to die (and it's a great chance to help an addict who might not give the opportunity again) and Alcohol, because withdrawal from alcohol can kill you ....which can't be said about any of the drugs you previously tried arguing are not dangerous
British sailors and soldiers were given and loaded on alcohol. In many cases it gave them courage to climb out of a safe trench and charge across " no man's land " !!
The Ally’s were absolutely given non-methylated amphetamine sulphate. It’s not like the Ally’s weren’t on amphetamines, it just wasn’t methamphetamine.
@@One.shot1 making a statement based on pictures who have been presented to them by a source that they have little to no intimate knowledge of and yet have placed total trust in believing the things that are told as if it is a gospel!
No one can handle the reality of an ultimately meaningless existence, so they spend their lives trying to handle it by doing whatever it is that gives them some sense of a purpose, whether its being a meth head or a normie.
@@darkodonnie2729 hindustani religion makes abrahamic religion look like spacewars super science cults, though. Plus Buddhist temples still get little boys dedicated to them. Parents just send their small kids to go live with temples of men "sworn to celibacy."
@@darkodonnie2729 You're only reinforcing my point. Men sworn to celibacy are the last people you want to trust with children. Do you even speak English? Or am I talking to the google translate text box right now?
@@darkodonnie2729 Yes, so you're saying abrahamic religions are relatively young. As I said to begin with. They're extremely modern compared to hindu unga bunga religions. You're not even arguing with me. You're offended, yet agreeing with everything I believe.
When I was fighting in Iraq we had an endless supply of energy drinks. It was the first time I ever had a energy drink. When we were out on patrol our cargo pockets were filled with cans of energy drinks. Ask any Iraq veteran about Rip-Its!
How did you deal with the energy crashes? As a civvie I can't understand why they would want you guys to be on those headache inducing crap. Also just cause I like controversy, feel free not to answer, what's your opinion on Biden following through on the trump pullout of Afghanistan, and the politicalisation of taking in afghan collaboraters, has it changed any previous political opinions?
When I went to war, we would get hashish at the Syria border. We were doing convoys in Iraq. Our line was “ what are they ( military brass) gonna do if we get caught, send us to war?” We were already there.
Sounds like the same mentality of the Vietnam vets. They were already in shithole land, so they didn't gaf if the brass knew they got high last night. It's like what are they gonna do, take them from this damp , humid and hot jungle with ppl trying to kill them daily and send them to military prison where they have shelter and 3 meals a day and showers and workout equipment and basketball courts and get visits from family and not having enemies trying to shoot you, just a guard making sure you're actually safe and alive. Lol.
the ex-addict inside me nearly has a heart-attack watching docos etc of people in enormous poppy fields. If I was sent their as a journalist, I have a feeling I’d never come back LOL. Man, heroin is fucking awesome
@@pasta-and-heroin Most people won't admit it because it's a touchy subject for recovering addicts / family members of addicts / law enforcement officers. Quitting H made my life so depressing and no matter how exciting I can make things it'll never touch the times I had on H. Also, fetty sucks it's a cold high whereas heroin is a warm high.
@@jhullihen exactly! Been saying this about Fent for years. No warmth, euphoria, floaty feelings, or any of that good stuff. Basically lacks any good qualities of an opioid.
@@historyZZ You obviously are not aware of just how addictive nicotine is since it does not have a major change in a person's behavior until they try to quit.
@@Angel9932 I smoked for 8 years. If you "abuse" cigarettes you'll die in 30-50 years. That's it. That's the difference. You can't abuse cigarettes that's ridiculous.
"Taps" played each evening was the somber moment when the Rum Kegs were turned off. George Washington passed out more Rum and Whiskey voting day than his opponent. Benzedrine can also make you "cranky."
14:30 "you cant really explain why so many police forces around the country have their own swat teams if you take out drugs" Terrorism? School shooters? Mass riots? Insurrection? There's plenty of reasons that explain why police forces would have swat teams besides drugs.
I think you are missing the point. It's a cycle of war and militarization funded by drugs. I don't feel safer knowing my local police dept have tanks, do you?
Fueling wars is most likely a big reason they're kept illegal. If they became legal, regulated and taxed there wouldn't be that black market money for these warmongers.
@@ricardocerrillo1897 People do not understand. I pray for their forgiveness. I know, because I was decieved by the same things but was granted another chance. God bless everyone. No matter what anyone knows or thinks they know; every single person plays a role and position in revealing the righteousness of God.
@@MODElAIRPLANE100 more people died during the cold war then during world war 2 the difrence is none of the fighting was directly beteween the superpowers and the vast majority of the killing happened in Asia out of the eyes of the meda puting aside Vetnam and Korea for a minute
@@Tommy-5684 yeah if you include vietnam all bets are off. "more people died during" yes of course since it was a way longer period and people also naturally die. Or do you only include people that died because of the war ?
from an economical standpoint...every market is run by supply & demand...if the governments & communities can lower the need for demand...then the cartels would go out of business
The urge of making a comment right here and now is a form of addiction too. Only a wise mind would learn to have a balanced lifestyle while enjoying what you can.
The normalization of drugs, hard drugs, and alcohol never ceases... Want to be a true radical, a true revolutionary in modern times? Be sober. Achieve this, and you'll be the rarest gem of humanity.
@@paulangelopineda2534 i like how you call it Western Phillipine sea👍. Now if only US pacific fleet conduct FONOPS there, especially around the man made installation
@@dimasakbar7668 thanks i am taking an subj about ASEAN and that was one of our topic. Would also like to add that we have vietnam as close ally in this conflict as they also have disputes with china over their territory and both country have repeatedly argued with the ASEAN council over that topic but some member countries are countering their calims due to economic ties with china
I'm curious about this. Why would they filter water if they are going to boil it? I'm assuming the water that's already in the tank has been treated and processed to filter out minerals and metals? I could be wrong.
@@erickramirez4667 To be accurate, british tanks have the capacity to boil water so that tea can be made inside the vehicle. This change happened after WW2 where the number of tank crews killed outside their vehicles because they stopped to make a brew was considered too high.
We just keep peddling faster, hoping that our civilization's flying machine is in flight, not freefall. But the ground is rushing toward us, and the craft was never sound. - Paraphrase of Daniel Quinn's Ishmael
Thanks for this interesting video! After hearing it all, I wonder if the US opioid crisis wasn't also due to US actions in Afghanistan. That can't be a coincidence!
Interesting film thanks Vice. The power of alcohol, tobacco and sugar. People have always loved getting sh*t-faced, it was ever thus, but why don't they just legalize everything, level the playing fields. If you must take drugs, make sure they're natural ones.
I have had a gun pointed at my head, because my roommate was selling marijuana. It was in 2006 the drug was only decriminalized in my state at the time. I guess threatening my life was valid for this government THIS WAS ACCEPTABLE!
You can die from going cold turkey off heroin but you can die going cold turkey from alcohol. Huge tell for how dangerous it is. Coming from a recovering addict here. 6 years this thanksgiving.
Wonderfully done, good interviewing and Peter is excellent. I would say that the constant "worry music" through the whole thing, when coupled with Peters nervous/halting speaking style, makes it hard to relax and enjoy your excellent content as much as I would like! Especially when under the influence of one of those drugs! (Caffeine)
13:03. This is blatantly false. Noriega declared war on the US and then killed US troops stationed in Panama, and then the US invaded. The US disowned Noriega because he was caught red handed in the drug trade and international outcasted, but they didn’t invade because of that.
@Jps007cat 1) The US government had been planning for an invasion over a year before any open hostilities occurred. That's why they were able to invade a mere 2 1/2 days after the order was given.
2) While it is true that the assembly in Panama voted to declare war on the US first, the US did in fact try twice to carry out a coup against Noriega & also blatantly meddled in the elections in 1988. So, I mean who began the conflict is rather debatable regardless of who officially declared war first.
3) You are right that Panamanian forces killed *1* member of the US armed forces stationed in Panama at a military checkpoint & injured 1 other. Though what exactly happened has never been satisfactorily explained, by either side. Panamanian Defense Forces (PDF) stopped a vehicle of American armed forces members stationed in Panama [at a roadblock outside PDF headquarters,] where something happened that led to the PDF forces opening fire. Panama claimed the men had weapons & were doing reconnaissance, while the Pentagon said they were unarmed, in a private vehicle, on their way to dinner at the Marriott Hotel, & ended up fleeing the roadblock when surrounded by an angry crowd. My personal view is that they were likely unarmed & also likely on a recon mission because the PDF headquarters location was completely out of the way of the route between the base & the Marriott hotel. It wasn't simply not along the typical routes one would take to go from the base to that hotel, but they would have had to deliberately go in the opposite direction at one point & away from the city center where all the hotels are & go to the outskirts of the city which were sparsely populated. They didn't end up there by mistake or because they were taking a scenic route or anything. There is also the fact that the 4 people in the car were 2 members of the Marines, 1 from the Navy, & 1 from the Army. The 2 marines were intelligence officers & the army guy was an Psyops officer [I have never been able to find exactly what specialty area the guy from the Navy was in.] 4) Noriega was not disowned "because he was caught red handed in the drug trade and international outcasted" [by the something like "internationally ostracized/condemned" would be better.] Not only had the government known about his involvement in drug trafficking for nearly 2 decades by 1989, but various parts of the US government itself has been involved in many aspects of international drug trafficking since the end of WWII. For that second claim there is tons of evidence as I suspect it will be contested, so just to give a single, quick piece as an the July 9, 1984 diary entry of Oliver North which said: "Call from Clarridge - Call Michel re Narco Issue - RIG at 1000 Tomorrow (Q0384) - DEA Miami - Pilot went talked to Vaughn - wanted A/C to go to Bolivia to p/u paste - want A/C to p/u 1500 kilos - Bud to meet w/Group (Q0385)" Clarridge referring to CIA official Duane Clarridge, RIG being the Restricted Interagency Group, Vaughn being Federico Vaughn, A/C being shorthand for aircraft, p/u being shorthand for pick up, Bud referring to Robert McFarlane a national security advisor to Reagan. Now, there is only 1 type of "paste" that someone flies into Bolivia to pick up that is also measured in "kilos" & that is cocaine paste. 5) The 4 objectives of the invasion Bush gave was to protect American lives in Panama, protect the democratic election process, arrest Noriega & bring him to the US to face drug trafficking charges, & protect the integrity of the Panama Canal Treaty. After arresting Noriega he announced all objectives were achieved. The official legal justifications given by the government were 3 things. The exercising its legitimate right of self-defense as defined in the UN & Organization of American States charters, the right to protect & defend the Panama Canal under the Panama Canal Treaty, & that the US actions were taken with the consent of the legitimate government of Panama. The objectives & legal reasons come from the Government Accountability Office (GAO) document NSIAD-91-174FS called "Panama: Issues Relating to the US Invasion" from April 1991. All of which is, even under the most generous of interpretations, highly dubious.
@young98 it was usually in survival kits since if your plane got shot down and you're trying to outrun commies trying to recover you for interrogation, you got bigger problems than "what if the war ends and I still feel the need for speed?"
In iraq we had ample redbulls and other highly caffeinnated drinks. And then to sleep we would drink nyquil. That was the only way you going to sleep fast enough before work call or your next guard shift
Hey season 2, episode 4 on your While the Rest of Us Die series needs the audio checked out lol someone messed the last half of it up. Narration sounds like from the beginning of the episode while talking over current audio. Whoops.
He went around the question about Amerikkka but continued to speak on other countries so Amerikkkan of him. This is one reason war vets are so fucked up.
Peter, does the ‘caffeine you take for work’ have anything to do with your repeating every 5th word between 2-4 times and saying uhhhh, ummm in between most of your thoughtphrase
@@PullingEnterprises Sugar, rubber and tea are just 3 that the UK have fought over in time past. Hence our empire. I avoid sugar unless I can't help it but try avoiding rubber and who wants to dump tea. These are also the legal ones 🙃
I really wanted to watch this but had to stop it by 7:14 because of the annoying as hell music. Hard to believe someone got paid to make that decision......
Drugs are vital for the growth of a city. Most of the businesses you see got started for drugs, especially banks that got started off the opium trade with China. Those two men who sold and traded opium to the Chinese have a large business building with both there names on it. Opium money also built certain cities in America, Canada, Europe, and other places too.
I thought the interview was very light on detail. British Empire was a drugs and commodities business. With the East Indian company with its own Army. Nazi troops were liberally supplied with a methamphetamine called Pervitin, while American and British soldiers stayed alert with the help of the amphetamine Benzedrine. Rum was used in WW1 but limited. Disicipline in battle is no use with drunk soldiers. Panama and Noriega was a US trained asset for 30 years. And they then turned on him because end of Cold war. And Greneda. These were just political statements. The Iraqi and Afganistan could have been a sucess if the WW2 Marshall plan had been copied. But a military dictatorship was put in place. Instead of civilian. No mention of ISIS fighters high on drugs, €1 billion drug bust in Italy and came in the form of 84 million captagon tablets.
I remember watching a documentary on isis and how the kurds pushed them out of a border town and a journalist was with them following their mission and on abandoned isis houses they'd find tons of meds in packets on the ground. Mostly amphetamines and some opioids like codeine pills etc. And I believe some make enhancement pills like imitation viagra. And it was funny because these guys in isis were supposed to be the holiest of holy, super conservative religious freaks and were attacking others for not following the religious rules etc. But then when nobody is looking they're popping all types of drugs and pills. They can't say it's just medication because all drugs started as medication.
We want to congratulate drugs for winning the war on drugs
And for helping troops win wars !
Shinji Ikari: i want anti-depressants
Everyone: Congratulations!
WINNING
This line sounds so cringey tbh especially the tone they use.
Great analogy 😆
This journalist is great. He asks great questions and lets the interviewee properly answer the questions without interruption.
it still surprises me how many people don’t know that alcohol is a drug😂 and it’s much more addicting than many.
Typical comment from a person with a pot leaf profile picture
@Kevin Schmidt and Tobacco
@@G_D_K it literally is a drug why are you upset? You an alcoholic?
@@G_D_K are you drunk now?
Since the rise of the far-right, and qanon, I've stopped being surprised at the stupidity and ignorance of a lot of people. Most people are freaking idiots.
Sugar is another substance that is highly addictive and has brought billions to the British Empire and others.
Sugar is most addictive substances out there.
Nicotine’s pure form is more addictive than alcohol
Wars on dugs, Wars with drugs & Wars for drugs.
Just imagine without the war on drugs we'd be fighting a war, on drugs.
Well said
Deep!
The fact that we get free documentaries on RUclips by VICE News is truly a gift. 👍
I’m glad to see vice positivity for once. All the insecure white boys complaining every time they see an upload mentioning the left or feminism they have a fucking heart attack
@@pasta-and-heroin I’m an insecure whiteboy and I watch VICE.
@@matthewmcdonough5601 grats
@@pasta-and-heroin thanks. I was just joking lol, I do agree though.
@@pasta-and-heroin ugh can't wait til you get a taste of reality
Alcohol is far more dangerous than many illegal drugs. Also, many illegal drugs are only made to be as dangerous as they are due to the illegality of it
right, there was a British study recently that found alcohol to be the most dangerous drug to the user and to people around the user
Alcohol is not as bad as heroic, cocaine, acid, and fenty . You're very delusional for saying alcohol is worse than these
@@rauljrlara9994 alcohol is just as bad as heroin. Acid is more of a stigma and cocaine isn’t as damaging long term to your brain.
Alcohol withdrawal kills people and heroin withdrawal doesn’t. Heroin is just super addictive because of how good it feels.
Alcohol ruins so many more lives than the other drugs you’ve listed.
@@rauljrlara9994 I would bet money that someone who's addicted to heroin (given they are provided the substance easily, safely and legally like alcohol) would be a far better member of society and far less likely to be a danger to that society. Also, if it were legal like alcohol that would already take care of most of the dangers of using it. Idk how you are determining what is safer than alcohol because all these substances would have to be as readily available as alcohol to even begin to prove. As far as the substance itself, cocaine is about equally on par as damaging to the body as alcohol but far less damaging to society. LSD is fairly safe as a substance, given the person partaking is mentally fit and...... Fentynal? Is not even as damaging to the body as alcohol is but that's an idiotic choice for an example. Fentynal is as safe as most other opiates, assuming the person taking it has built a tolerance i.e. they have cancer. It's only dangerous when the cartels cut product to maximize profits and someone does too much on accident (the illegalities of drug use make most drugs unsafe)
In conclusion, it's quite plain to see that you have no real world experience or knowledge on what you are trying to argue and know little more than beyond what basic stereotypes have led you to believe.
@@rauljrlara9994 in medical detox, they only FOR SURE GUARANTEE accept 2 different kinds of patients. Heroin addicts because withdrawal is so bad you feel like you're going to die (and it's a great chance to help an addict who might not give the opportunity again) and Alcohol, because withdrawal from alcohol can kill you ....which can't be said about any of the drugs you previously tried arguing are not dangerous
British sailors and soldiers were given and loaded on alcohol. In many cases it gave them courage to climb out of a safe trench and charge across " no man's land " !!
I could never do that sober had I been forced to be there
Now their given DMT and knives. The street soldiers...
The Ally’s were absolutely given non-methylated amphetamine sulphate. It’s not like the Ally’s weren’t on amphetamines, it just wasn’t methamphetamine.
This topic is damn interesting, but the format is all over the place & reminds me of a zoom class. Would love to see a proper documentary on this.
yeah probably was zoom bc of covid
“Reality is for people who can´t handle drugs.” Tom Waits
That's a utterly stupid statement
Yeah kinda dumb look at a picture of a person that does meth no thanks 😊
@@One.shot1 I'd say drug is for people who can't handle reality, and trust me I've been there.
Can be fun, can be bad but at the end it's all a lie
@@One.shot1 making a statement based on pictures who have been presented to them by a source that they have little to no intimate knowledge of and yet have placed total trust in believing the things that are told as if it is a gospel!
No one can handle the reality of an ultimately meaningless existence, so they spend their lives trying to handle it by doing whatever it is that gives them some sense of a purpose, whether its being a meth head or a normie.
the worst drug is religion though
@@darkodonnie2729 hindustani religion makes abrahamic religion look like spacewars super science cults, though.
Plus Buddhist temples still get little boys dedicated to them. Parents just send their small kids to go live with temples of men "sworn to celibacy."
@@darkodonnie2729 Sorry, Ranjeet, I remain unconvinced.
@@darkodonnie2729 Sworn to celibacy is sarcastic, as obviously the men will not be celibate, and will abuse the children.
@@darkodonnie2729 You're only reinforcing my point. Men sworn to celibacy are the last people you want to trust with children.
Do you even speak English? Or am I talking to the google translate text box right now?
@@darkodonnie2729 Yes, so you're saying abrahamic religions are relatively young. As I said to begin with. They're extremely modern compared to hindu unga bunga religions.
You're not even arguing with me. You're offended, yet agreeing with everything I believe.
When I was fighting in Iraq we had an endless supply of energy drinks. It was the first time I ever had a energy drink. When we were out on patrol our cargo pockets were filled with cans of energy drinks. Ask any Iraq veteran about Rip-Its!
How did you deal with the energy crashes? As a civvie I can't understand why they would want you guys to be on those headache inducing crap.
Also just cause I like controversy, feel free not to answer, what's your opinion on Biden following through on the trump pullout of Afghanistan, and the politicalisation of taking in afghan collaboraters, has it changed any previous political opinions?
Did you mean to say whip-its? Or does the US military have something caffeine based that is called rip-its?
Ive seen those cheap Rip It energy drinks. Cheap ass govt shoulda sprang for Rockstar at least!
@@nikkigriffin08 he meant rip its. It's a type of energy drink.
@@nikkigriffin08 What's a whip-it? I tried googling it and got a whipped cream dispenser, which I'm pretty sure isn't what you were alluding to LoL.
When I went to war, we would get hashish at the Syria border. We were doing convoys in Iraq. Our line was “ what are they ( military brass) gonna do if we get caught, send us to war?” We were already there.
Sounds like the same mentality of the Vietnam vets. They were already in shithole land, so they didn't gaf if the brass knew they got high last night. It's like what are they gonna do, take them from this damp , humid and hot jungle with ppl trying to kill them daily and send them to military prison where they have shelter and 3 meals a day and showers and workout equipment and basketball courts and get visits from family and not having enemies trying to shoot you, just a guard making sure you're actually safe and alive. Lol.
How do I get a job like this guy where I get to “nerd out” opium and get tours of poppy fields in Mexico and Afghanistan lol.
the ex-addict inside me nearly has a heart-attack watching docos etc of people in enormous poppy fields. If I was sent their as a journalist, I have a feeling I’d never come back LOL. Man, heroin is fucking awesome
I love opiates to. But we can’t give in to our weakness
@@pasta-and-heroin Most people won't admit it because it's a touchy subject for recovering addicts / family members of addicts / law enforcement officers. Quitting H made my life so depressing and no matter how exciting I can make things it'll never touch the times I had on H. Also, fetty sucks it's a cold high whereas heroin is a warm high.
@@jhullihen exactly! Been saying this about Fent for years. No warmth, euphoria, floaty feelings, or any of that good stuff. Basically lacks any good qualities of an opioid.
Try Australia
Alcohol & tobacco are by far the most abused and addictive.
Alcohol yes tobacco no lmao
@@historyZZ You obviously are not aware of just how addictive nicotine is since it does not have a major change in a person's behavior until they try to quit.
because they're legal? lol you don't really get supply and demand do you
@@Angel9932 I smoked for 8 years. If you "abuse" cigarettes you'll die in 30-50 years. That's it. That's the difference. You can't abuse cigarettes that's ridiculous.
if I was fighting a war I'd be on heroin and speed the whole time
"Taps" played each evening was the somber moment when the Rum Kegs were turned off.
George Washington passed out more Rum and Whiskey voting day than his opponent.
Benzedrine can also make you "cranky."
Why in the hell would you post such foolishness? You really should be ashamed.
@@philbert006 lmao
This is very interested and needs to be explored more!!
So true
14:30
"you cant really explain why so many police forces around the country have their own swat teams if you take out drugs"
Terrorism? School shooters? Mass riots? Insurrection? There's plenty of reasons that explain why police forces would have swat teams besides drugs.
I think you are missing the point. It's a cycle of war and militarization funded by drugs. I don't feel safer knowing my local police dept have tanks, do you?
Thank you for saving me the time of typing out this comment this is what I was thinking
Should be the top comment tbh
79% of SWAT deployments in the United States are for the purposes of executing drug investigation search warrants.
Fueling wars is most likely a big reason they're kept illegal. If they became legal, regulated and taxed there wouldn't be that black market money for these warmongers.
My grandmother and great grandmother worked in a linen mill. The entire mill was on speed pills (dexadrin I believe)
Drugs are not fueling this.
PEOPLE are fueling it.
...and that people is the simple truth of it. Well spoken👍
@@ricardocerrillo1897 People do not understand. I pray for their forgiveness.
I know, because I was decieved by the same things but was granted another chance. God bless everyone. No matter what anyone knows or thinks they know; every single person plays a role and position in revealing the righteousness of God.
@@rdallas81 ..and simultaneously the error in our ways (a.k.a judgement) 🤳
Make marijuana legal
decriminalize all drugs remove the criminal element
@Jesse Marcel It's illegal for most of the world.
Marijuana is medicine and that's a fact. A gift from Mother Earth. 😊
@@joandurham4002 That's true of most common drugs.
Let's be honest here "deadly war" goes without saying.
Cold war ? Although ofc a lot of death happened in secret fighting. But in general not that deadly
For sure. More like "more deadly" and "less deadly"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_cancer
@@MODElAIRPLANE100 more people died during the cold war then during world war 2 the difrence is none of the fighting was directly beteween the superpowers and the vast majority of the killing happened in Asia out of the eyes of the meda puting aside Vetnam and Korea for a minute
@@Tommy-5684 yeah if you include vietnam all bets are off. "more people died during" yes of course since it was a way longer period and people also naturally die. Or do you only include people that died because of the war ?
Never forget the first war on drugs: The 1839 Opium War
from an economical standpoint...every market is run by supply & demand...if the governments & communities can lower the need for demand...then the cartels would go out of business
The urge of making a comment right here and now is a form of addiction too. Only a wise mind would learn to have a balanced lifestyle while enjoying what you can.
That is so much more true these days
Bazing!!
"Just say no to everything including harm reduction and rational debate"-Will Carruthers (Spacemen 3/Spiritualized)
^ war on drugs in a nutshell
A Spacemen 3 fan! cheers 👨🚀
So true
I feel like I’ve seen vice make this same video 100 times lmao
lmao? how original and you are the Sheeple and they won against you.
It was truly amazing watching this analysis of War & Drugs intertwined👏👏👏
The normalization of drugs, hard drugs, and alcohol never ceases... Want to be a true radical, a true revolutionary in modern times? Be sober. Achieve this, and you'll be the rarest gem of humanity.
Sober people are insufferable dolts. To intentionally make your life more boring because you have no self control means you're a pos
You're so special. Everyone wants to be just like you.
i agree_and would like to add that to be sober entails your consciousness is altered in a different way than it is "on drugs" 🤳
What happened to Philippines? I don't hear the news a lot anymore about Duterte.
He's running for vice president next year. He's going against his daughter.
it kinda died down as they focused more on the pandemic and the west philippine sea dispute with china
@@paulangelopineda2534 i like how you call it Western Phillipine sea👍.
Now if only US pacific fleet conduct FONOPS there, especially around the man made installation
@@dimasakbar7668 thanks i am taking an subj about ASEAN and that was one of our topic. Would also like to add that we have vietnam as close ally in this conflict as they also have disputes with china over their territory and both country have repeatedly argued with the ASEAN council over that topic but some member countries are countering their calims due to economic ties with china
@@paulangelopineda2534 kasama dun pilipinas probinsya na tayo ng china 🤣🤣
mentioning tea and the britsh i belve to this day Britsh tanks have the cappacity to filter water so they can boil tea
I'm curious about this. Why would they filter water if they are going to boil it? I'm assuming the water that's already in the tank has been treated and processed to filter out minerals and metals? I could be wrong.
@@erickramirez4667 To be accurate, british tanks have the capacity to boil water so that tea can be made inside the vehicle. This change happened after WW2 where the number of tank crews killed outside their vehicles because they stopped to make a brew was considered too high.
@@TheMelonofTruth that makes perfect sense. Thank you sir.
Thanks JS & Peter.
We just keep peddling faster, hoping that our civilization's flying machine is in flight, not freefall. But the ground is rushing toward us, and the craft was never sound. - Paraphrase of Daniel Quinn's Ishmael
Civilization is more stable now then it ever was. Pick up a history book.
End the failed war on drugs NOW
I always get baked when playing COD so i see your point
Love this channel!!
Thanks for this interesting video! After hearing it all, I wonder if the US opioid crisis wasn't also due to US actions in Afghanistan. That can't be a coincidence!
Someone came out with this theory in the beginning of this year.
Afghanis and Cartels must be thriving
Not really afghan heroin really don't make it in huge quanitys to the United States. Are heroin comes from Mexico and South America.
Great journalist! Keeps the flow!
Drugs arnt bad people are bad
When was this made???
Nothing like tripping in the woods with the boys playing Army Man.
People usually did hard or mild drugs, not psychedelics. There was no tripping, just a lot of sleeping or teethgrinding.
Great video!
What is up with the background music! I thought this was supposed to be an interview?
It’s like no one even listened the lyrics for prison song by SOAD
🙄
Know the Prison song like the back of my hand since the early 00's. War? is another tune that resonates current times. 🤘
Interesting film thanks Vice. The power of alcohol, tobacco and sugar.
People have always loved getting sh*t-faced, it was ever thus, but why don't they just legalize everything, level the playing fields.
If you must take drugs, make sure they're natural ones.
0:43 is this plant called dragon fruit? I never knew about a drug made from dragon fruit
Peyote i think
Drugs have replaced apple pie in America ... America and drug addicts go hand in hand ..
No.
And drug addicts are everywhere, even in afghanistan in their own army. Get a clue and view more of the world, yahater
lol
War on drugs but Drugs still Winning
It's always been a war over the control of drugs.
"Bolivian Marching Powder" is even a nickname for cocaine.
0:21, entire books have been written about this subject Vice, but sure take the credit.
Imagine if we had treated opium, rum, tobacco and slavery as we treat them now, since Great geographic discoveries in late 15 century.
We would have a cure for addiction by now
There's nothing wrong with being addicted..You can be addicted and still go to work and take your kids to school and evei thing else just fine
@@SpaceRanger187 it depends on type of drug
>>> vice makes alot of videos on drugs.
NICE content
What was the name of that book he did an interview on? They centred it on coffee, mescaline and opium?
There is nothing better the aestithic vice videos have they make them seem from the 90s and it's just calming
I have had a gun pointed at my head, because my roommate was selling marijuana. It was in 2006 the drug was only decriminalized in my state at the time. I guess threatening my life was valid for this government THIS WAS ACCEPTABLE!
You can die from going cold turkey off heroin but you can die going cold turkey from alcohol. Huge tell for how dangerous it is. Coming from a recovering addict here. 6 years this thanksgiving.
is that a Shan-solider in Myanmar in your thumbnail ??
Wonderfully done, good interviewing and Peter is excellent. I would say that the constant "worry music" through the whole thing, when coupled with Peters nervous/halting speaking style, makes it hard to relax and enjoy your excellent content as much as I would like! Especially when under the influence of one of those drugs! (Caffeine)
13:03. This is blatantly false. Noriega declared war on the US and then killed US troops stationed in Panama, and then the US invaded. The US disowned Noriega because he was caught red handed in the drug trade and international outcasted, but they didn’t invade because of that.
Why were the US troops there to begin with?
@Jps007cat
1) The US government had been planning for an invasion over a year before any open hostilities occurred. That's why they were able to invade a mere 2 1/2 days after the order was given.
2) While it is true that the assembly in Panama voted to declare war on the US first, the US did in fact try twice to carry out a coup against Noriega & also blatantly meddled in the elections in 1988. So, I mean who began the conflict is rather debatable regardless of who officially declared war first.
3) You are right that Panamanian forces killed *1* member of the US armed forces stationed in Panama at a military checkpoint & injured 1 other. Though what exactly happened has never been satisfactorily explained, by either side. Panamanian Defense Forces (PDF) stopped a vehicle of American armed forces members stationed in Panama [at a roadblock outside PDF headquarters,] where something happened that led to the PDF forces opening fire. Panama claimed the men had weapons & were doing reconnaissance, while the Pentagon said they were unarmed, in a private vehicle, on their way to dinner at the Marriott Hotel, & ended up fleeing the roadblock when surrounded by an angry crowd.
My personal view is that they were likely unarmed & also likely on a recon mission because the PDF headquarters location was completely out of the way of the route between the base & the Marriott hotel. It wasn't simply not along the typical routes one would take to go from the base to that hotel, but they would have had to deliberately go in the opposite direction at one point & away from the city center where all the hotels are & go to the outskirts of the city which were sparsely populated. They didn't end up there by mistake or because they were taking a scenic route or anything. There is also the fact that the 4 people in the car were 2 members of the Marines, 1 from the Navy, & 1 from the Army. The 2 marines were intelligence officers & the army guy was an Psyops officer [I have never been able to find exactly what specialty area the guy from the Navy was in.]
4) Noriega was not disowned "because he was caught red handed in the drug trade and international outcasted" [by the something like "internationally ostracized/condemned" would be better.] Not only had the government known about his involvement in drug trafficking for nearly 2 decades by 1989, but various parts of the US government itself has been involved in many aspects of international drug trafficking since the end of WWII. For that second claim there is tons of evidence as I suspect it will be contested, so just to give a single, quick piece as an the July 9, 1984 diary entry of Oliver North which said:
"Call from Clarridge - Call Michel re Narco Issue - RIG at 1000 Tomorrow (Q0384) - DEA Miami - Pilot went talked to Vaughn - wanted A/C to go to Bolivia to p/u paste - want A/C to p/u 1500 kilos - Bud to meet w/Group (Q0385)"
Clarridge referring to CIA official Duane Clarridge, RIG being the Restricted Interagency Group, Vaughn being Federico Vaughn, A/C being shorthand for aircraft, p/u being shorthand for pick up, Bud referring to Robert McFarlane a national security advisor to Reagan. Now, there is only 1 type of "paste" that someone flies into Bolivia to pick up that is also measured in "kilos" & that is cocaine paste.
5) The 4 objectives of the invasion Bush gave was to protect American lives in Panama, protect the democratic election process, arrest Noriega & bring him to the US to face drug trafficking charges, & protect the integrity of the Panama Canal Treaty. After arresting Noriega he announced all objectives were achieved. The official legal justifications given by the government were 3 things. The exercising its legitimate right of self-defense as defined in the UN & Organization of American States charters, the right to protect & defend the Panama Canal under the Panama Canal Treaty, & that the US actions were taken with the consent of the legitimate government of Panama. The objectives & legal reasons come from the Government Accountability Office (GAO) document NSIAD-91-174FS called "Panama: Issues Relating to the US Invasion" from April 1991. All of which is, even under the most generous of interpretations, highly dubious.
İ don't mess with the hard stuff , only organic PCP ,
If I had to die on the Battlefield, I'd rather be high as a kite!
We have suffer a lot in this world, and some are do drugs to forget it.
Basically, it is "war for drugs🍮" to "war with drugs🥃🍺" to "war against drugs💊💉"
The drug prohibition* fueling deadly wars
FTFY
The only "drug" or substance that I love alot is Caffeine, once or twice a day.
Same but with Heroin
@@Bene135 😂😂 I like your style
@@reefslayer21 thx m8
I think we have to go back a bit further than that. To the Opium War, where the British went to war in order to keep the Chinese addicted to opium.
Please more videos like this
0:25 JS you look like Matt Servitto
How does this apply to soldiers
Drugs are a dead end street for most or a horrible protracted mental and physical toll on the other poor souls.
depends if you can handle it most of the west seems to have done ok with alcohol
Sad. They use and abuse soldiers and workers and then kick them out after it finish.
Who is they?
There’s a war on drugs because there’s no war, on drugs.
Quit drinking after switching over to cannabis. Now people who drink hate I don't drink lol 😆😆
Good video! Tha background music is very disturbing, makes it hard to listen to the speakers!
Marijuana is not a drug, it's a godsend
It's a drug you like. Get over it.
As a soldier, I’ve never been given meth or amph! Where do I sign lol!? Not even in Iraq, had to do it all natural.
Lab rats don't know what we give them either.
@@clutch5011 Amphetamine is usually only given to pilots or direct action personnel.
@@clutch5011 It's also not a secret, and you're not going to take a meaningful dose of either without noticing it.
@young98 it was usually in survival kits since if your plane got shot down and you're trying to outrun commies trying to recover you for interrogation, you got bigger problems than "what if the war ends and I still feel the need for speed?"
I wouldn't have understood the weight of these topics if not for the soundtrack.
Most addictive drugs are
Cigarettes
Opium
Alcohol
In iraq we had ample redbulls and other highly caffeinnated drinks. And then to sleep we would drink nyquil. That was the only way you going to sleep fast enough before work call or your next guard shift
Hey season 2, episode 4 on your While the Rest of Us Die series needs the audio checked out lol someone messed the last half of it up. Narration sounds like from the beginning of the episode while talking over current audio. Whoops.
Jardine Matheson Holdings is a Hong Kong-based conglomerate listed in Singapore, with total assets of more than $66 billion 😉
War is hell, and profitable
He went around the question about Amerikkka but continued to speak on other countries so Amerikkkan of him. This is one reason war vets are so fucked up.
4:03 👀
Ah, a traveling man! :)
Watching this as I’m vaping, surreal
Hey, hey, hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I may be a Drunkie, but a Junkie???????
NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Peter, does the ‘caffeine you take for work’ have anything to do with your repeating every 5th word between 2-4 times and saying uhhhh, ummm in between most of your thoughtphrase
US amphetamine prescription rates peaked in 1963 at something like 600mg per person per year, if it was divided up per capita....
As a species we have many addictions, hence we are our own worse enemy LOL. Nice one VICE xx
You're talking like we have VICEs
@@PullingEnterprises Sugar, rubber and tea are just 3 that the UK have fought over in time past. Hence our empire. I avoid sugar unless I can't help it but try avoiding rubber and who wants to dump tea. These are also the legal ones 🙃
Drugs made war and war made drugs.
I really wanted to watch this but had to stop it by 7:14 because of the annoying as hell music. Hard to believe someone got paid to make that decision......
You left out guns!
Drugs are vital for the growth of a city. Most of the businesses you see got started for drugs, especially banks that got started off the opium trade with China. Those two men who sold and traded opium to the Chinese have a large business building with both there names on it. Opium money also built certain cities in America, Canada, Europe, and other places too.
Thank you heroin for developing the school system in my city🤝
About time alcohol took it's rightful place as the worst drug of them all
I thought the interview was very light on detail. British Empire was a drugs and commodities business. With the East Indian company with its own Army. Nazi troops were liberally supplied with a methamphetamine called Pervitin, while American and British soldiers stayed alert with the help of the amphetamine Benzedrine. Rum was used in WW1 but limited. Disicipline in battle is no use with drunk soldiers.
Panama and Noriega was a US trained asset for 30 years. And they then turned on him because end of Cold war. And Greneda. These were just political statements. The Iraqi and Afganistan could have been a sucess if the WW2 Marshall plan had been copied. But a military dictatorship was put in place. Instead of civilian. No mention of ISIS fighters high on drugs, €1 billion drug bust in Italy and came in the form of 84 million captagon tablets.
I remember watching a documentary on isis and how the kurds pushed them out of a border town and a journalist was with them following their mission and on abandoned isis houses they'd find tons of meds in packets on the ground. Mostly amphetamines and some opioids like codeine pills etc. And I believe some make enhancement pills like imitation viagra. And it was funny because these guys in isis were supposed to be the holiest of holy, super conservative religious freaks and were attacking others for not following the religious rules etc. But then when nobody is looking they're popping all types of drugs and pills. They can't say it's just medication because all drugs started as medication.
Is this in partnership with CBS? I ask Because the eye logo in NOD
Sugar is a horrible drug 🤣