Fancy Feast Stove With No Wick
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- Опубликовано: 3 фев 2016
- In this video I try a Fancy Feast stove with no wick at all.
This basically what is called a Capillary Action Stove. Here is a link to a playlist of videos I've done on Capillary Action Stoves (CAS):
• Capillary Action Stove
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Hiram
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I make my _"Fancy Fest"_ without the cloth wick - carbon felt and similar is expensive and difficult to find in my _"corner of the world"_ and I don't like use cotton/linen cloth wick (although they work well) because with time they became impregnated with the water contained in the Ethanol we use (methanol is 5 times more expensive here).
In the place of the cloth wick I put a "sandwich" made with beverage can aluminum sheets:
one flat sheet + another sheet with vertical grooves (LittleBitWorks/Tetkoba's DIY capillarity stove techniques) + another flat sheet.
This "sandwich" fit between the two cans used (not aluminum, here the cats eat Fancy Feast from plastic sachet) with pressure sufficient for hold the two cans together - can put the stove upside down that cans hold in place.
The "sandwich" create the capillarity necessary for vaporize the alcohol.
Work well and as bonus made easy recover some alcohol that remain after use. ;)
That is a reasonable option for those unable to get wicking material. Thank you Hiram! I am a sucker for outdoor stoves. I watch a lot of your videos and I really appreciate your attention to detail.
+Cheeky Saver Thank you for watching my videos.
A wick does add a little safety in case you knock the stove over. I use fiber glass insulation for wicks pushed down intothe gap with a popsicle stick.
Never thought about this, I'm glad you did... Thanks for sharing Hiram.
I used a small candle container for making small candles.
I rolled up 13" of carbon felt and pit it in in a spiral fashion.
If it shrinks I still have plenty in it for wicking.
All I need now is a pot stand and some kind of wind screen.
I made a fancy feast burner without a wick some time back..
It works just fine .. used it yesterday and it's not as 'thirsty' as my other regular fancy feast burners.
Well done , i also enjoy a happy dog .
great idea...as always
Fancy Feast with carbon wick--- Thumbs up!!!
Clark
I like alcohol stoves, I made the penny stove and now I'm gonna make those ones with and without weaks. Greetings.
i have found that gelled alcohol fondue burners are cheap and work great. $7 for a 2 pack and each one burns for about 90 minutes. you should try one out sometime.
Please try the same test with a coddle bottle where the vent holes are at the level of the top of the outer can. You should be able to light both sides at the same time. Well, probably, anyway. PS. Please try a stove using hurricane lamp wicks.
thanks for the info
Awesome video
What if you use a rippled aluminum can as the wick, as used in Tetkoba's Capillary Hoop Stove, which will help with the capillary action? Might have to use several layers of those. Would you be able to light from the side that way? The advantage is it wouldn't deteriorate like carbon felt.
i just bored slots around the open end of a can and that works great. they act as both the air intake and exhaust. i've been looking around to find out why people even use wicks and dont just light the alcohol directly. the only reason i can think is that it might help with spillage and a wick is easier to blow out.
I was impressed by the quality of the flame pattern. It seem like this would make fast work out of boiling water. I had to wonder if you could start the stove from the side, with a small bit of wicking material in the gap, that would burn long enough to get the stove started, thus avoiding any fuel waste.
Have you ever tried masonry wick rope for a fancy feast. I have and it seems to work fine. It's about 1/4 inch in diameter. Crams well in the tomato paste/ f feast.
Love your videos Hiram, very in depth.
Love the fancy feast stoves use them all the time.
Thx! For taking the time in making these videos for all of us to enjoy! Cheers!
quick question the way the stove seemed to kinda Gulp or pulse did it continue through out the burn? and if so maybe the two vent holes aren't enough and maybe a third to help give a little more oxygen! atb
Mark in Texas!
Love your videos on these little stoves! It seems most anything can be used at least once, or as you show - nothing at all.
I think I'll try it with cat tail fluff....
+Chris Collier That stuff is a great firestarter.
Without a wick this works alot like a Trangia stove. You have to light the vapor and air that mix in the center and warm up the stove before it starts to volatilize the fuel and generate the Bloom. But with the wick the Fuel mixes with air as the fuel is drawn up with the wick and it makes it easier to start, especially when its cold. Sometimes people use an extra wick to light their trangia for this reason.
Hiram, have you done the water boil time test on this stove? I'm curious to know.
Hey, Hiram, does the fancy feast stove work better with the pot sitting directly on the tomato paste can? In other words, if you used a pot stand that kept the pot an inch or so above the stove does it decrease the performance of the fancy feast? Thanks
Could You make a simmer ring for that stove ?
This one doesnt sputter nearing the end flame?
you ask me the wick is mainly there to act as a spacer anyway, most of these stoves seem to need to be lit in the center anyway?
I'm thinking that without a wick the stove would be hard to start in cold weather. I went to a wicked stove just for that reason.
Hiram, appreciate your videos. I have been using a cat food can stove, that's just an open can, with holes like on your super cat mod. I use ethanol from the paint department. I don't have a wick or a pot stand can in the middle. Does the stand and wick make it more fuel efficient? I am not so concerned with boil time as I am with burning less alcohol each time, so I can carry less. Thanks in advance.
Make a fancy feast stove with very small fuel ports on the bottom Im talking just nick it,then your efficiency should go up but BTU may drop a little.
With super cat like you have make sure your pot has a tight seal between pot and can,also can try making one with slightly smaller holes :)
Hiram have you ever used the Moda Flame Bio-Ethanol ventless fireplace fuel in your stoves? I use it in my DIY Fancy Feast stove I made from watching your videos and it works well. Going to try it in my Trangia Spirit burner next. The woman I talked to on the phone said it was about 94% Ethanol, less than 1% Bitterant, 5% Isopropyl alcohol and
yup you can always find cans...
but not always alcohol. but cooking oil, fresh or used, plenty of that, anyone made a stove for that?
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I looks like it would start the full flame if you put a cover on the inner can right away, then switch to the pot as soon as it warms the system.
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Can you use Vaseline
Hiram.. .could you tighten this up (clean up rough edges, etc), then do a basic burn and boil test using it? I'm curious about it, just to see how it will perform vs. the carbon felt stove. My thought are that it may bring water to a boil sooner, but not last as long. Thanks for the video.
+Alan Williams I have not seen a boil test yet on this one, so in a day or so I plan to do one myself as I have a Bud Blue Bottle handy, and I will let you know the results when I do, as far as being away from the pot by a small amount, I just completed that test today, with the Fancy Feast away from the pot using a stove stand, it boiled in 6:45 and last just under 12 mins total, with the pot on it, it boiled in 8 and lasted to 14:20 so a faster boil with it just under 1 inch from the pot, I will do more tests with it 1 inch and over 1 inch to see what if any differences that may make. hope this helps some, also using the Simmer ring I saw from another video and person, using the top of a FF can with holes in it, it did not boil at all, but burned out in 45 minutes.
CAS stoves work best when there is very little space between the layers. Place one or maybe two strips 1 1/2 inch wide cut from soda cans, and the capillary space will be reduced, improving the capillary action. Should make the stove bloom even faster, and may effect longevity of the burn
Great video as always... Now have you ever tried STEEL WOOL as the wick...? Would like to know your opinion... Thanks... Martin from 🇦🇷Argentina🇦🇷 by the way
Steel wool work fine as wick, and don't burn, just the top player became black.
But the best put soda can strips with vertical grooves between the cans, reduce the gap and improve the capillary action.
Is there any useful significance to using this stove without a wick?
I'd like to see a comparison of burn time and cooking time for a pint of water, with the same amount of fuel in each test.
I'm pretty sure you need 2 metal cans. If you use a plastic inner can, it would melt.
Depends on wick material capillary, but most material will not vaporize alcohol more fast than just the little gap between the two cans. Include can reduce this gap placing in between soda can strips with vertical grooves.
Hiram, does the ceramic cloth fit between the cat food can and the aluminum bottle?
How long will that fuel last? I mean long enough to cook something, like maybe Ramen 🍜
Good job and God bless you real good 💕 🌿
yeah ramen is great , 500ML takes like 5 minutes with 10ML of alcohol.
Why is there a hole at the top?
Did you watch my video,"Fancy Feast Stove - Trail Hound asks, "Is the vent hole really needed?" If you didn't you can use the following link to it;
ruclips.net/video/AA0KrK5wudA/видео.html
I think the video will explain the hole. Thank you for watching my videos.
I bought a MRE today! I will probably cook it on my new pocket rocket !
It's a great stove.. well worth the 40$
I was getting about three separate voices in this video
Love the vid Hiram, I have some capillary hoop stoves by following Tetkoba ruclips.net/video/fbHHQrh9m58/видео.html. They are amazing!