Is This Stove BETTER Than the Fancee Feast Stove??
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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So many stove videos, Ernie. I used to spend endless hours with Hiram and all of his testing.. we are praying for him. With this virus thing keeping us mostly tucked up, it's great to have yet another stove video to spend time with and it is much appreciated. Keep on keeping on, Doc.
You should have swapped positions of the stove to rule out draft. Looks like the Fancy Feast stone is taking more of a draft, perhaps allowing the Sprite can stove to sit in the turbulence.
I noticed that also, thanks for mentioning it, in my tests the Fancy feast beats this one everytime, so I'm not sure why his tests came out different, it could be his height on the Fancy one as height it Key as Hiram proved.
In the video it appears that there may be a slight draft from left of the screen. Maybe switch the position of the stoves???
1:40 Since there is no such thing as "free time" (meaning valueless time, not time with nothing to do), *Time Waiting = Time Wasted.* Therefore, timer should start when stoves are lit, and pot should go on each stove when it blooms. I don't know how long it took your sprite stove to bloom, but I saw the Fancy Feast stove blooming immediately. Maybe it only makes a difference of 30-40 seconds, but when you are comparing two stoves and measuring time to accomplish something, that 30 seconds should count! Much like when comparing wood stoves to alcohol stoves, and the tester starts with his twigs all cut and trimmed to size. Wait, you didn't pick them up looking like that, aren't you going to account for the prep time?
In that case, let's compare alcohol stoves against electric hot plates, but not count the time and expense of running electrical hookup out to the middle of the forest.
Upon reflection, this criticism seems harsh. It was not meant to be. Your Sprite stove is very good, and I'm sure you are proud of it. It's smaller than, and lighter than the Fancy Feast, and most other stoves. It just upsets me when testers don't take all time factors into their calculations. IMHO, timing should start when the stoves start.
I agree and I did not care overall for his test, he seemed to favor his Sprite can from the beginning, it also looked like some air coming in from the Fancy feast side of the screen affected it a little. either way I've made and tested both and the fancy feast has yet to be beaten, it's tied with a Trangia knockoff on amazon both are great stoves, but this one is light & flimsy and a light can won't hold up to larger heavier pots or pans.
Shenanigans, how do I know you don't work for Coca-Cola, the maker of Sprite? Or, how do I know you're not ex disgruntled employee of Fancy Feast? How do we know you didn't have tungsten alloy in the Fancy Feast burner pot, and preheated water in the Sprite can burner pot? We're onto you man!
CAT FOOD WILL WIN. I WANT A RE COUNT FOR CAT FOOD HAD A DRAF UNDER IT.
Yea, it wasn't burning correctly at all. It could have also been an issue with the build. Mine doesn't do that.
I agree 100% I've tested his design and all the beer can designs out there, Fancy feast beats them all his test is pretty flawed if you pay attention.
nice video, and i know you know this and so does everyone else would you mind doing another test with a wider diameter pot just to see what the times would come to? i know they will drop but curious the difference between the 2. even if you lived in the north, use the fancee feast in winter and the sprint in teh summer :)
I join in saying the leftward draft and the jump edit waiting for the Sprite Stove to bloom significantly handicapped the Fancee Feast stove. Shenanigans! :-). Rematch! Rematch! Rematch! “How much time” the stove takes to boil water should start from lighting.
Exactly right, he favored the Sprite can from the start, I think he just wanted to make a video on something new, but this one is a Failure, Hiram would have tested both together and called him out on it and showed how it was done properly, also height on the Fancy feast is key.
Hi Ernie, that was a great test, and a quite surprising result , do you think the amout of metal in the heavier stove is what slows the process, ATVB. Thanks for the vid, stay safe , Scott Somerset England.
I've done his test and I've yet to get his results, he says he gets different results from cat can stove, I don't, height is Key, I don't agree at all with his test.
May I know how the Sprite stove handles cold weather? I can attest to the reliability of the Fancee Feest in colder weather; it lights easily, blooms quickly and burns effectively. Thanks for sharing. Cheers!
I've done both and the Fancy Feast and a Chinese Trangia knockoff on amazon are the 2 best Alcohol stoves I've ever tested and like Hiram did in the day I've tested every design and store bought one out there.
Can I ask where your tshirt is from?? Love it.
Not fair. The cat food can stove was ready to cook before the Sprite can stove bloomed...am I right? Camera edit and the timer did not start until the Sprite can stove bloomed. Place the pot on the cat can stove as soon as you light it. You will get a different result. Just like xenaguy01 said below.
Sprite can bloomed around 3 seconds after cat can stove. Not even long enough for me to push the start button.
@@PaleoHikerMD I have never seen any pressure based stove bloom that fast.
@@PaleoHikerMD says you, not an even test, lol!
@@yobentley7274 I've tested his design, either his can is a 1 in a million or his test sucked, I wonder which it is?
I recently watched a video where a thicker walled aluminum beer can was used. Being thicker material it was sturdier, yes a bit heavier but not by much.
Just an idea I thought you may try out and comment on!!
So, when you say "ounce by weight", do you mean you used 1 oz (28g) of fuel, or the 24 grams or so that a fluid oz of alcohol fuel weighs?
I did a bunch of basic BTU maths on my stove designs recently, good fun. I figured the efficiency of most of them i have on the table in a fairly raw fashion with some basic relationship between BTU required for water mass vs btu potential vs burn and boil times.. nerd it up!
Sprite had a better flame pattern then the Cat Can. The cat can would be a lot sturdier then the sprite stove. Less to worry about when it's packed away. One thing for sure the cat stove needs a wind screen around it. Both stoves would be more efficient with a wider bottom pot.
Any one out there with a Vargo Titanium Hexagon wood stove looking for a additional heat source. A version of the Cat Can stove when made with a Vienna sausage can , a full sized Tomato paste can and carbon felt is a great additional and quick substitute heat source in it. Follow Ernie's instructions on how to make the cat food can but don't trim the tomato Paste cans height. The extra combined height of the two cans is what make it work so good in the Vargo wood burner.
My FF stove with a windscreen boils 2 cups (covered alum pot) in about 6 1/2 minutes even in pretty cold temps. Runs about another minute or so longer after the boil.
Same here, I've tested his design many times, in the cold it does not perform well, and height is a Key to the Fancy feast stove, Hiram proved that.
@@Rspenesmit Hiram did prove that. Wonder if he is still around making vids. He did a great job testing.
How long did it take for the Sprite stove to bloom? The FF is up and running as soon as its lit.
Nice test on them stoves i like them both
Hi, may I ask you the diameter of the Sprite bottle and how many holes you drilled on it? Thanks.
See their video: "The BEST Alcohol Stove I've Ever Made! - 14 GRAM Weight!"
@@Sokol10 LOL you don't build much do ya?
The Stove that beats both of these easily in my testing is a cheap $15 Chinese Trangia knockoff on amazon, they are $15 with a stand. I still love the Fancy feast stove it's my #2 stove.
Time jump at 1:37 minutes. How long does it really take to bloom that Sprite can and would it bloom at all in low temperatures?
It can take up to 3:00 minutes for the sprite can to bloom in temps around 35 degrees Fahrenheit…. 1 ounce of alcohol I can boil an open pot of water outside in 6 minutes using 93% rubbing alcohol at 35 degree temp out
Have you tried this test head to head with both in windscreens? I wonder if the wide open oxygen would make an unscreened cat can burn faster and perhaps less efficiently.
agree. I use a windscreen on my fancee feast and it works awesome.
my side burn stove need about 2 mins to preheat, how about yours? I found that fancee feast is great for lazy me because I don't need to take care of the preheat time
Have you noticed a problem getting the Sprite stove to bloom on cold surfaces? I ended up JB welding a 1/4 inch thick wood disk to the bottom of mine and it seems to run better.
Thats a good idea.
That is an incredibly fast bloom for the sprite can… it can take me up to 3 minutes outside with 35 degree Fahrenheit and no shield
But I can use 1 ounce of alcohol and have it burn to boil fluids for 16 to 19 minutes
Your pot is too small for those stoves, so most of the flame is going up the sides as wasted heat.
This is a fundamental problem with attempting to make an alcohol stove do what it's not good at: heating small pots. There are more potential variables built into what Ernie calls a "cat food can" stove, specifically, how many, and how big are the notches at the bottom of the tomato paste can, and the location and diameter of the hole in the side, and, as someone mentioned, don't wait for a stove to bloom if it doesn't need to. You can put a pot right on the Fancee Feest (Fancy Feast) stove even before you light it! Try that with almost any other alcohol stove.
The one I use is called the "Supercat".
It may be the lightest stove that will actually hold a large pot, and only requires a paper hole punch to make.
Love your channel & t shirt. Where did you get it from. Are you Armenian by any chance
T-shirt 👌
Have you ever built any CHS-based stoves? Far more efficient that the bottle design of the Sprite can stove
Im alcohol stove crack head. Please tell me what is CHS?
I build his sprite design with miller lite aluminum BOTTLE not can but I add carbon felt in the dead room between both parts before pressing them together. Makes a big difference.
@@beerbeforebreakfast CHS is a Capillary Hoop Stove, you can find builds and more info in tetkoba's channel (look for CHs alcohol stove)
@@polruzafa1106 thank you good sir
@@beerbeforebreakfast you're welcome
I’d love to make a sprite can stove but can’t find a can like that anywhere.
not sure about soda type bottles/can but I've seen several beers in this design.
looks to me like a 8oz. soda can. 8 packs are sold in most grocery stores
my bad . I was wrong . I did not watch video on how to make
@@oneeyedwillie1 I've tested all the beer and pop can stoves just like this, the Fancy Feast beat them all in my & Hirams tests, his test is Flawed.
Compare the cat can to the real Arizona penny can. Be watchful of the volume between the two.
I think you need to redo this test. You can definitely see a decent draft coming from the left to right. The cat stove was blocking the draft the entire time for the Sprite stove. Also as another mentioned you should start the test once the fastest stove gets to a full bloom. In the field you wouldn't wait the extra time for the other stove to light up. Not saying it would change the winner but would show better results.
For the Fancy feast stove if you replace the metal tomato paste can with an aluminum coffee drink can you’ll save 0.4oz.
The sprite will our perform the FF until the temperature drops. The FF is good down below -20f.
I’d like to see the comparison at different cold temperature say 50° down. Of course you’ll have to wait until next winter. 😊
Good video I enjoyed it.
The Supercat stove, at least with water from my night time hot water bottle which I use while hammocking in the winter is also good down to at least +5 degrees F. Generally, from experimenting, I've found that larger holes promote fuel/air mixing, providing a more sustainable cold weather flame. The Fancy Feast stove is essentially a wide open stove, so it's no surprise that it's an excellent cold weather performer.
Hey Ernie do you still use or have the Mini Bull Design's stove?? My choke hazard is the bee's🐝 knee's🦵🤙😁
No.
Rucos stove
Good stuff, Ernie. Thanks for testing the burners and checking in. I hope all is well down there.
You are using some pretty big pots there. I wonder if using smaller pots and maybe less thick pots would heat the water quicker with the stoves. Just an idea. I have no clue myself.
Hi Ernie
repeat the same test ...
at 0 Fahrenheit
you will see why the FF
is the best of all alcohol stove
That did not turn out as I expected.
use methanol fuel too if you have it.
I notices that most alcohol stoves have heat running up the sides of the container.
Makes one wonder how it would work if less heat ran up the sides.
Yes you get people who build the stove to there fav pot.
@@danieljohnstone9102
True!
That’s what I do & I have more stoves than I thought I would lol but my favorite is the #1) Starlyte #2) Sgt Rick ION stove #3) bottom part cut down from small aerosol can with plumbers cloth (remove cloth it’s a perfect esbit stove & no soothing)!& small holes around the top #4) VARGO tri stand (3 modes to cook, beer cap fueled to preheat under it & start it) #5) TRANGIA (heavy but all around long cooking time plus simmer the best tho a bit heavy or I’d say #1 all day for real cooking it is (it’s really #1 for under $20)!
All the others I use for “quickly or simmering to warm up food”