The prior owner is my brother, Ron. He is/was a car enthusiast to the extreme all his life and a car mechanic. Our parents told us the first word he spoke was "Car" while pointing to their 50's Cadillac; rather than mommy or daddy. He even taught an automotive class in a community college for a time. We grew up in Allentown, PA. I fondly recall handing him tools under his cars in the back yard; even in the dead of winter when the tools would stick to my numb hands. He always seemed to know all the stats for each car that was produced; how many were made, the options, the various specs, their value. His eyes would light up talking about them. He could talk all day and night about cars - it is/was his passion. I knew he had a couple cars in storage but never saw them. He is still alive, but has fallen on hard times - I'm sorry to see this loss of his but I think he would find solace in knowing his cars have a good home. The 2+2 is a real beauty.
Wow! What a blast to the past! I also owned a '65 2+2 with the factory Tri-Power, 4-speed, 8-lug wheels and tach. Mine was Black on Black with standard steering (to build up the arms and upper body), standard brakes, no A/C but it did have a factory installed reverb unit for the AM radio.FYI: My best quarter mile time was 14.20 which took place at Thompson Dragway in Thompson, Ohio. I do not recall the mile per hour. This was in 1971. Seeing this beauty brought back some wonderful memories! Thank you!!!
she is absolutely a Rare Gem , Scott has a Gem heart the Gods and Goddesses of heaven Granted him this Gem to , stay pure at heart People you will be rewarded unexpectedly with Pure gems :) thanks for sharing such beautiful story of such beautiful creation . I indeed enjoyed this video .
HERE IS WHAT THE CAR WAS LIKE NEW At 16 years old i ordered a 2+2 421 HO 3 2bbl 4sp in greenish gold with no power anything, nothing except htr & radio. god i miss it. Mine came from the factory with three aircleaners and mechanical linkage. Mine had a pair of one bigger double pinstripe in real red paint. Mine had a black shift knob with a pattern and a flat hurst shifter bar. Another spot usually needing work is the console top, which scratched easily, as it was paint over chrome, but added a lot to the cars design. The radio hada switched reverb was a spring type mounted on springs in the trunk and was always powered. It would create a hell of a thunderboom when you went over railroad tracks.It was the first year for mechanical linkage on the carbs and that made a big difference. It ran an indicated 105 "on the peg" which is about half the middle carburetor, before the linkage dragged the others in. The vacuum linkage from the years before was almost unusable on a four speed as it held on and hesitated on throttle changes. I had every racing option but belts and brakes (go figure). Paid 4000 to the penny and still have the sticker somewhere I hope. Im 73 and have had 300 or so cars, but i always miss this one the most.
Hod Rod magazine, mid '64, had an ad of 1 at speed on a test track painted pale yellow. Don't remember what wheels it had. About 2 years later, I bought 1 used with a black interior, no console, no power steering or brakes but with the 376 hp motor. They were made from '64-'67. Problem was it didn't take too many options before you had $5000 + in 1 & a GTO was smaller & cheaper. Mine was pale yellow with hubcaps. Those cars had brake fade issues, so much so that GM issued recall bulletins. I still got those long after I sold the car. Since that car had been upgraded either from the base motor or the 356 hp motor, it wasn't factory issue. No big deal but you can bet that was brought up as a selling point. Nice car!
I can not imagine driving this 2 ton plus Poncho with manual steering and brakes! You must have had quite a workout whenever you drove your car! Typical of the era, all motor and no brakes or suspension. Thanks for sharing your memories, Darrell.
As I understand it, the 356 motor was simply a tri-power set-up on the base 338 motor & the 376 motor had higher compression & a wilder cam. Pontiac underrated their motors. I'd heard the 376 motor was far closer to 400 hp. Those 8 lug wheels sure did look nice but they caused problems. Always thought they were amongst the most beautiful wheels out there. Pontiac was also better on their dashes. That trio of gauges just to the right of the speedometer were angled to the driver's vision. Having that car back then, a girlfriend & no console was sometimes hilarious. They'd try to sit in the gap to be near me & if I nailed it, they'd be flat on their backs in short order (keeping in clean, guys)! Not sure what rear end ratio mine had but it was fairly steep.
All of the companies were underrating their ponies to " fool " the insurance companies and help, hold down, the ever increasing rates. You are correct about the horse power variations. The engineers knew how to " regulate " the output though go fast bits, the same as hot rodders. Ah, those lovely, romantic moments ( or longer if you got lucky! ) in those large cars!!
Uncle had one exactly like that but gold ( Pontiac called it Sandalwood) raced it as the Gold Ghost at Connecticut dragway. As I can remember he only lost a couple times
I can't believe someone would walk up and try to sit in a car like that without asking permission. An ex. girlfriend of mine walked up to a classic car at a show and put her hands on the door with her gold chain dragging across the window sill. I had to educate her very harshly to NEVER do that again. Thanks for posting!
Would you believe it?? This car has size profile of those big Sinister looking Continental and profile of true racing blood of Pontiac!! Two profile in one car.... Dang!!
as a teenager in the early 70s I remember the little old lady who lived next door to my grandparents had 2 55 Pontiac Chieftans in her garage, the red and white was hers, the blue and white belonged to her late husband, she didn't drive anymore so I begged my Dad who knew her since he was a little kid to ask how much she wanted to sell one of them, with visions of my first car being epic!...he said no, they'd cost too much to repair, oh well he was probably right
OMG you just don't understand how much I love 2+2's! thank you for your reply and do you have any idea where it is now? this is the best 2+2 ever just it's history alone.i need to just see it in person. thank you over and over!
Whatever happened to this car? Did you get in touch with the prior owner? The poster below should know something in that regard. This car should be preserved with care taken that it finds the right home. No one should be allowed to make a driver out of it. It is a precious piece of history.
Not off hand. I may be able to get it later. I will be at Dead Mans Curve Wild Hot Rod Weekend this weekend, then on a mini vacation so it will be a bit.
Beautiful car, but lousy attitude. You had no signs, no barriers and you yelled at a potential buyer. Maybe he didn't want to interrupt you while you were taping. Let's see, at an auction, what is the 1st thing you do in a showroom for a car you like, you sit in it! Was he wrong, possibly, but you left it wide open for that to happen. Letting that go, and it goes without saying, you have the most awesome car! 65 & 66, the 2 best car designs that there ever was!
The prior owner is my brother, Ron. He is/was a car enthusiast to the extreme all his life and a car mechanic. Our parents told us the first word he spoke was "Car" while pointing to their 50's Cadillac; rather than mommy or daddy. He even taught an automotive class in a community college for a time. We grew up in Allentown, PA. I fondly recall handing him tools under his cars in the back yard; even in the dead of winter when the tools would stick to my numb hands. He always seemed to know all the stats for each car that was produced; how many were made, the options, the various specs, their value. His eyes would light up talking about them. He could talk all day and night about cars - it is/was his passion. I knew he had a couple cars in storage but never saw them. He is still alive, but has fallen on hard times - I'm sorry to see this loss of his but I think he would find solace in knowing his cars have a good home. The 2+2 is a real beauty.
Wow! What a blast to the past! I also owned a '65 2+2 with the factory Tri-Power, 4-speed, 8-lug wheels and tach. Mine was Black on Black with standard steering (to build up the arms and upper body), standard brakes, no A/C but it did have a factory installed reverb unit for the AM radio.FYI: My best quarter mile time was 14.20 which took place at Thompson Dragway in Thompson, Ohio. I do not recall the mile per hour. This was in 1971. Seeing this beauty brought back some wonderful memories! Thank you!!!
An Amazing story!
Glad to have been able to get this on video and share it, Greg. Thanks!
awesome!!! these Cars from 1956-1980 All American. 60's & 70's; slick, built with character!
she is absolutely a Rare Gem , Scott has a Gem heart the Gods and Goddesses of heaven Granted him this Gem to , stay pure at heart People you will be rewarded unexpectedly with Pure gems :) thanks for sharing such beautiful story of such beautiful creation . I indeed enjoyed this video .
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HERE IS WHAT THE CAR WAS LIKE NEW At 16 years old i ordered a 2+2 421 HO 3 2bbl 4sp in greenish gold with no power anything, nothing except htr & radio. god i miss it. Mine came from the factory with three aircleaners and mechanical linkage. Mine had a pair of one bigger double pinstripe in real red paint. Mine had a black shift knob with a pattern and a flat hurst shifter bar. Another spot usually needing work is the console top, which scratched easily, as it was paint over chrome, but added a lot to the cars design. The radio hada switched reverb was a spring type mounted on springs in the trunk and was always powered. It would create a hell of a thunderboom when you went over railroad tracks.It was the first year for mechanical linkage on the carbs and that made a big difference. It ran an indicated 105 "on the peg" which is about half the middle carburetor, before the linkage dragged the others in. The vacuum linkage from the years before was almost unusable on a four speed as it held on and hesitated on throttle changes. I had every racing option but belts and brakes (go figure). Paid 4000 to the penny and still have the sticker somewhere I hope. Im 73 and have had 300 or so cars, but i always miss this one the most.
Nice job on the video. Very thorough.
Hod Rod magazine, mid '64, had an ad of 1 at speed on a test track painted pale yellow. Don't remember what wheels it had. About 2 years later, I bought 1 used with a black interior, no console, no power steering or brakes but with the 376 hp motor. They were made from '64-'67. Problem was it didn't take too many options before you had $5000 + in 1 & a GTO was smaller & cheaper. Mine was pale yellow with hubcaps. Those cars had brake fade issues, so much so that GM issued recall bulletins. I still got those long after I sold the car. Since that car had been upgraded either from the base motor or the 356 hp motor, it wasn't factory issue. No big deal but you can bet that was brought up as a selling point. Nice car!
I can not imagine driving this 2 ton plus Poncho with manual steering and brakes! You must have had quite a workout whenever you drove your car! Typical of the era, all motor and no brakes or suspension. Thanks for sharing your memories, Darrell.
As I understand it, the 356 motor was simply a tri-power set-up on the base 338 motor & the 376 motor had higher compression & a wilder cam. Pontiac underrated their motors. I'd heard the 376 motor was far closer to 400 hp. Those 8 lug wheels sure did look nice but they caused problems. Always thought they were amongst the most beautiful wheels out there. Pontiac was also better on their dashes. That trio of gauges just to the right of the speedometer were angled to the driver's vision. Having that car back then, a girlfriend & no console was sometimes hilarious. They'd try to sit in the gap to be near me & if I nailed it, they'd be flat on their backs in short order (keeping in clean, guys)! Not sure what rear end ratio mine had but it was fairly steep.
All of the companies were underrating their ponies to " fool " the insurance companies and help, hold down, the ever increasing rates. You are correct about the horse power variations. The engineers knew how to " regulate " the output though go fast bits, the same as hot rodders. Ah, those lovely, romantic moments ( or longer if you got lucky! ) in those large cars!!
that car is gorgeous
Uncle had one exactly like that but gold ( Pontiac called it Sandalwood) raced it as the Gold Ghost at Connecticut dragway. As I can remember he only lost a couple times
I can't believe someone would walk up and try to sit in a car like that without asking permission. An ex. girlfriend of mine walked up to a classic car at a show and put her hands on the door with her gold chain dragging across the window sill. I had to educate her very harshly to NEVER do that again. Thanks for posting!
Thanks for appreciating show etiquette, Robert!!
A real beauty!
Only thing with me I don’t care for white letter tires on larger cars but that’s me no biggie. Beautiful Pontiac
376 horsepower had special cast iron exhaust manifolds.
Would you believe it?? This car has size profile of those big Sinister looking Continental and profile of true racing blood of Pontiac!! Two profile in one car....
Dang!!
I never thought of the big Ponchos like that. Thanks for watching and commenting, Ckryse S.
ok and looking forward to hearing back if you locate his contact. safe travels and enjoy.
Love it
Thanks, William. This was a real, special, 2+2 with a great story!!!
as a teenager in the early 70s I remember the little old lady who lived next door to my grandparents had 2 55 Pontiac Chieftans in her garage, the red and white was hers, the blue and white belonged to her late husband, she didn't drive anymore so I begged my Dad who knew her since he was a little kid to ask how much she wanted to sell one of them, with visions of my first car being epic!...he said no, they'd cost too much to repair, oh well he was probably right
Hydraulic or solid refers to the lifters, not the carburetors. Those engines were all hydraulic, the 421 SD had solid lifters.
I have a 64 Catalina 421 tri power 4 speed post 342 p track, factory original, granny blue with dog dish caps
OMG you just don't understand how much I love 2+2's! thank you for your reply and do you have any idea where it is now? this is the best 2+2 ever just it's history alone.i need to just see it in person. thank you over and over!
Should have determined that there were no bodies when you removed the rear seats...Ownership "however" Is the issue . Beautiful !
Scott worked long and hard to establish legal ownership of this survivor. You jest, but Scott did checked for bodies!Thanks for watching.
Awesome!
Whatever happened to this car? Did you get in touch with the prior owner? The poster below should know something in that regard. This car should be preserved with care taken that it finds the right home. No one should be allowed to make a driver out of it. It is a precious piece of history.
Ok, I watched the rest of the video. lol The '65 holds an emotional attachment for me. lol
I could not agree with you more, Dans Music!!!! No worries, though, this remarkable time capsule will be well taken care of for future generations.
@@wheelzeventztv5192 Glad to hear it. From one Pontiac enthusiast to another, "Thank You"!
Never saw a Catalina that wasn't blue! Just a huge car giant Hood at a glance it look like it could be 20 ft long
I love this car always a 2+2 Pontiac my favorite.!! was it sold?
Surprisingly, it was not sold at that auction. Thanks for your comment.
Nobody mentions the 1965 Pontiac catalina 2+2 421
was motor trends car of the year gold sticker in rear quarter windows both sides
Just a point. Its a 2 + 2. It is NOT a Catalina 2 + 2. It does not say Catalina on the body anywhere. It does not say Catalina on the title.
@@billbalchunas7657 Was this the first year the 2+2 became a separate model? Wasn't the '64 a Catalina 2+2?
you sold it because you cant drive it.. My guess. a low mile makes it valuable but goes down fast when you start driving it.
What was the other car in the garage?????????????????
back again do have a email address for Scott so I could keep in touch?
Not off hand. I may be able to get it later. I will be at Dead Mans Curve Wild Hot Rod Weekend this weekend, then on a mini vacation so it will be a bit.
How much did it go for ??
Sorry I did not include the top bid. It did not sell at the 2015 Carlisle auction. I will try to research it later and I will get back to you, Derek.
Was it white? Was the GP blue?
It is Mayfield Maize Yellow, a very pale yellow
Mayfair maze
same as my '62 Bonneville, called Bamboo Cream at the time (also on the Vettes)
LOVE IT!!!!!
Beautiful car, but lousy attitude. You had no signs, no barriers and you yelled at a potential buyer. Maybe he didn't want to interrupt you while you were taping. Let's see, at an auction, what is the 1st thing you do in a showroom for a car you like, you sit in it! Was he wrong, possibly, but you left it wide open for that to happen.
Letting that go, and it goes without saying, you have the most awesome car! 65 & 66, the 2 best car designs that there ever was!