Wish CK3 crusades had the IRL chaos they added in ck2's 3.0 patch "My Basileus, the Franks have conquered Antioch from the Saracens!" "Splendid! The holy city is once more in Roman ha--" "My Basileus...the Frank in charge of this has decided to keep the city for himself" "..." "..." "This is why we have a schism"
42:53 Even more horrifying fact about the Songs of Anguish event chain - there's a chance that the person you tried to torture and kill pulls a switch on you and you end up killing one of your children in the brazen bull instead, which you discover the next day when you find your child's skull in a box with a taunting note from the person you were trying to kill
i remember a ck2 game i played where my youngest son was the child of satan, killed his older brothers and i became him when i died. his firstborn was the child of destiny. totally op run
Actually that’s kind of unironically how that should have worked, *if you are blessed by the unholy and follow his orders then one day you must get a reward…*
I love that everyone ignores the fact that to get the antichrist as your heir, you need to induct a female relative into the cult and breed with her so the baby has your dynasty
I once had death beat me in chess. And it turns out that death is actually a character that shows up in your court prior to challenging you to the game. Just appears as a randomly -named courtier with decent stats and high intrigue. I know this because for whatever reason he didn't leave my court after killing me, instead immediately challenging my heir to a game and killed him too.
In Stellaris there is a reference to the gates of hell event. If you have the feudalism civic and you get the interdimensional portal event you can close the portal with a bunch of stone.
I'm not sure if it's this particular gate to hell, but if you have Knights of the Toxic God origin, you can also choose to send in a knight who becomes the literal Doomslayer and there are three possible outcomes within 10 years: 1: Demon Pops flood into your empire as refugees. 2: the Doomslayer returns having slaughtered all of hell. 3: The doomslayer turns evil and starts an invasion through the portal. If he takes over the planet, a Fanatic Purifier empire spawns with the Demonic Invasion Origin. God, I love this game.
@@ineednochannelyoutube2651Damn, imagine just sending in a dude to scout the new dimension, the portal closes and ten years later the things you had to kill pop out of said portal asking for mercy
They really really do. The soul of ck2 was its pythonesque atmosphere. It wasn't a medieval simulator; it was a medieval story creator. I love ck3 to death, have played hundreds of hours and genuinemy belive ck3 WILL be the better game in the long run, but rn ck2 holds the charm and dynamism (for example the fluid personalities, whereas in ck3 your personality as a 16 yo is the same for life) that gives every campaign its own unique touch
@@miguelpadeiro762my jewish emperor of Crimea took over the holy land and set up a usurper for Egypt and vassilszed them oh yeah and sunnis took over almost all over central Europe the Cathar heresy took over in england with a bit of help from me the whole place is a mess ive also got a horse merchant republic
You missed one of the coolest events from CK2. IF the child of satan is born in a position where there is NO possible way for them to ever inherit, most commonly if they belong to a muslim dynasty and are unfortunate enough to be female, they will dissapear shortly after their 16 birthday. Everyone will be super-relieved of course, since they still tend to kill some of their siblings on the way out. Roughly 20 years later they return as the leader of the Aztecs, leading the sunset invasion. And YES, this can happen at any time. I had it happen in the year 800 once. Luckily I was playing in Persia or something at the time, IIRC, so I wasn't first on their hit-list.
Imperator failed because it was bad and barren on release and paradox then realized it was a sunk ship as people stopped paying for dlc’s and stopped playing the game.
Inverse: they designed at empty base game they expected people to flock to anyway then use the money whales to fund dlc to make it playable for extra price
I once had my genius heir get killed by the carp event, and I have never been so livid at a game in my entire life, I spent the next hour or so scowling lmao
You think thats bad... imagine... your playing Wales and only its de jure land, building it up, and then 300 years later you get hit by the black plague... and every single FUCKING PERSON in your dynasty dies
I had it happen to me in one of my first games, I think it was more like a witch or something turns you into a bear. it’s a completely random event and it just kinda derails the seriousness pf the game, especially when you did what I did and seduce like half of europe as a bear and people didn’t realize their ethnically bear children weren’t theirs
30:17 - there's also the Ck2 Arc of the Covenant, which tends to spawn in the inventory of a courtier rather than the actual King of Ethiopia, so you can just bribe the guy to your court and then imprison+Execute and hope to inherit one of the most OP artifacts in the game right from day 1 (or month 1 to account for bribing and movement time)
I got the immortality. It was horrible. I saw my heirs apparent die one after another. I saw my grandchild i made queen of Égypt grow old, her children wither away... I don't ever know from which side of the familly nor generation is my actual heir. I can't reform hellinism because the one time i did and converted my self , a huge crusade was launched against me and i had to convert back again. I can't rise in secret societies. My infamy is too high. I have too good battle abilities to die in battle, my suicide attemps all end in failures..... Life is but pain. Imortality is but continious suffering. Don't do it, except if the empire is sure to explode after your death. It's not worth it.
28:54 ck3's loading screens in general are incredible. they alwas have so much depth and they make you think about the scenarious that happen in the picture and really make you forget about the long loading times
Fun fact: we generate different types of characters for the Explorer from the West event. For most of the various phantom isles they can tell you about, you'll get a deceitful explorer making up stories (though the stories they make up are generally historic examples of legendary islands in the Atlantic) - an explorer generated with the honest trait will only tell you about places they've actually been to, which means Greenland, the Purple Isles, orrr... the Sunset Empire.
I've had an immortal character in CK2. I knew it was rare, but not as rare as you describe. The immortal character can live forever, but they still suffer from the effects of events. This means that after a few centuries they can end up like Monty Pythons black knight. They are an uber character with loads of bonuses, but the events have taken their toll. They have lost a leg. And an arm. And an eye. But they'll still butcher you in a duel....
@@steveng6721actually imagine if you could have tried to pull up a fight with the crusade alone and win, like imagine if immortal guy with the OP honour pulls up
I get that you don't like the CK2 wackyness and creepyness but you can't deny this game had heart. Unique in every way, 4K hours and I'm still mesmerized by it.
Honestly we need a horror game based on the Crusader Kings franchise, just imagine a mix of psychological horror and a grand strategy game. You're playing as a random count until suddendly creepy "glitches" begin to happen and weird events you have never heard begin to happen.
Something cool that was missed is in regards to Incitatus. He isn’t the only immortal warrior who can come for you. In one my my games an immortal came after me me, but due to my high stewardship he fell in a trapdoor and put on a giant spinning wheel, it gave my capital some benefits and put him in the dungeon. I then let him out and he became my commander.
@@Notmyname1593”if you’re immortal” actually that sounds kind of logical, if you have infinite time anything will eventually happen, I know that we talk about game but that’s still kind of rational
The comet is basically in pretty much every Paradox game. It's also in Stellaris, though there depending on your ideology it can be either positive or negative
No North Korea Mode? The play style that dominated Ck2 for years by owning every single holding in your kingdom. That and the CK3 offshoot of North Korea Mode "Space Marine MAA" by stacking county buffs throughout the empire until a single heavy infantry MAA could solo an army with no casualties.
I actually had the Marci Polo event twice. The first time I didn't even realise how rare it was. After I learnt that,oh, how shocked I was to see it for the second time. Guess it's just luck.
31:21 In regards to the chess event, there are certain things you can do to boost your odds of winning. The game decides if you survive if you reach a certain amount of points, obviously most come from the RNG but there are a few things you can do to boost those odds. 1. Invite them in, even if you don't invite them to stay the event will fire so inviting them gives you the most amount of points. 2. Pick black, black gives you a slight point advantage while white doesn't. 3. Traits, If you have gamemaster, genius, etc. ONLY pick those RNG decisions as they massively increase your odds of winning 4. If you are feeling lucky, give up your kid, it increases your odds of playing a better move Besides that it's all RNG.
My most memorable sunset invasion happened a few generations after I became the Saoshyant, at one point I had a german concubine who inherited a duchy after a plague swept through the HRE. Her heir became Holy Roman Emperor, turning the HRE into a bastion of zoroastrianism in central europe. To maintain the holiness of the lineage of the Saoshyant, the Persian Empire and the HRE were permanently allied (you know how). .Later when the aztec hordes came to europe, my German-Persian alliance responded with hordes of our own, eventually pushing the aztecs out of continental Europe. The lands of Charlemagne, Iberia, Poland, Mesopotamia, Syria, Palestine, etc... were all ruled by descendants of the Saoshyant by the time I moved on
You laugh at carp but in the past pigs often wandered into homes and ate small infants! Also: Incitatus was the name of the horse of Caligula, who he made into a senator lol. Basically the original inspiration for Glitterhoof
43:25 Thanks for unwittingly featuring the VIET mod! It is good to see that the youths of to-day still resonate with my elderly sensibilities. (And yes it is a spoopy event chain if you get it, it was inspired by playing Stellaris late at night and hearing the spoopy Stellaris sound effects for its space horror events 😳)
With the matters of life and death event in CKII, the one time I actually had a character become immortal with it was as Ragnar Lothbrok, immediately after the Wolf Warrior's great adventure thing.
The horchata from the Iberian event refers to the Valencia horchata, made with tiger nuts (although the game calls them “almond nuts”) . It doesn’t come with cinnamon. Those pictures of horchata in this video must be the Mexican horchata, where yes they add cinnamon to basically a rice juice (horchata really means the technique of juicing nuts or grains)
44:25 - IIRC there's actually like 4 separate versions of this archetype character, as a little easter egg towards Highlander and making it easier to get the achievement for killing another immortal.
I've actually gotten the Adoptionism event chain twice because I really love playing as an Iberian Mozarab, but both games were in special Mozarabic achievement runs so I had to turn the final event down, which is sad because it likely would have been interesting.
I think it’s funny i think it’s funny that that you mentioned that the matters of life and death event is super rare and hard to succeed but a youtuber that I like to watch called Mr. Streamer and when he used to play CK2 he’d get the event at least once per playthrough not only that but he’d succeed often. Hilariously enough even when he did an entire character about the white beast he never caught it.
I've noticed that in more recent patched, Haesteinn tends to go invade territory in Britain, which is actually pretty historically accurate. I'm wondering if that's a happy accident or if they actually directly tuned his AI to do that?
25:54. If you get the depression trait back there an event about it where your character says he remembers feeling like this, and stuff like that. That was depressing to read
the Crusader Kings iceberg is here!... what'd we miss? 👀 thank you to Jia and Agami (Long Game Short) for all of their work on this video too!! it took us all a ton of work and i hope y'all love it c: 💖💖
the turnip act MUST be a reference to the BBC Series "Blackadder", where the Servant of Edmund Blackadder, a certain Baldrick is totaly obsessed with Turnips and exchanges a huge amount of money into a very huge turnip. don't ask me why i know that. ;-) i just can recommend that show.
Probably it's a reference to the tunip stock exchange in the 1600s or something Basically the Dutch economy was based around tunip varieties Until the marked crashed
Can't believe the Karlings weren't mentioned in this Iceberg. Granted, they'd be on the top part of it, but still, you'd think our nightmares would be mentioned.
This video is so good. I've been playing a lot CK for years by now. Since the 2. And i've seen many of those "iceberg events", but i had no idea of a few of them. So amazing. Very well done video and very well explained.
32:32 Sadly the story of Elagabalus/Heliogabalus is mostly considered to be false. Not that they didn’t exist, but that the only major source we have of their reign is from someone who rly dislikes them, and in Roman culture the worst type of slander was being compared to a woman. Like if people found out a politician went down on his wife, that man’s career was over. It wasn’t explicitly about being a woman but about being lower, so like Ceaser’s political career was almost tanked cuz people found out he was bottoming for some king in Anatolia, but women were always seen as lower than men. As such, Elagabalus wanting to be a women shows them as being weak, spineless, and of low morals. I did my best to use gender neutral pronouns here as we still don’t know for certain, and prob never will, but I caution against using them as a trans icon.
People forget how young Elagabalus was when he/they was in power. Compare that behavior to a young celebrity nowadays and then hype it up to a billion by being a pagan Emperor (and then the distortion of history) and it puts it into perspective.
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I think i once got the Marco event... weird but honestly you get used to creepy events in CK2. I think i had like 700-800 hours in CK2 after 500 hours i only played the Game of thrones mod.
On the "some characters are extra special"-bit: Could it also mean that there characters based on Paradox developers that you can invite to your court. There are definitely characters in CK2 that are named after developers.
in CK3 ive had my spymaster seek out the culprit of a known scheme against me, and invited me down to the dungeon to see the culprit....only for me to find my spymaster in chains, and then my spymaster condemning herself and helping me interrogate herself
Heliogabalus was a roman emperor that was extremely overtly homosexual and liked to fashion and conduct himself like a woman in the time period. There are many writings to this tone about this dude among general accusations of insanity and evil. One could argue that some of this is wildly exaggerated though.
IIRC, as he was a Phoenician priest, he also had Jupiter replaced with the Punic sacrifice goddess and sacrificed orphans to the idol. The man was insane.
@@RC15O5the most sad thing is that he was 14yo when he became a emperor, so there is a probablilty that he became a insane and deviant individual because of abuse and trauma
I think Haesting is a chump compared to Dyre the Stranger. Dyre is a 22 year old genius viking with 1000 event troops and 1/2 of them are huscarls and the other half id varangian vets. Dyre is related to every other viking Jarl on the map and can ally ALL of them. IN FACT... Dyre can Vassalize every norse viking within 10 years, and create the north sea in his own lifetime. He starts off with a norse holy site, and can easily take over 2 more and run a pilgrimage to reform Aasatru within 5 years. I have done pretty much everything with Dyre, it is Haestening on steroids. Because he starts in Kiev, noone realizes how powerful he is, because to really use his diplo ties you have to conquer some land in scandinavia. You can conquer More, and you will border sigurd and bjorn. Then you can help make sure Ivar wins against east seax. If he does you can take the county between Ivar and Halfdan. The moment Bjorn creates sweden, you subjugate him with ivar and halfdan as allies it's an easy win. Once you are king with true ruler you can vassalize all your relatives (which is like every viking that matters). You get so powerful from that that everyone else will vassalize as well. You can do the whole thing with only 3 wars. Stranger ftw.
After going all in on the immortality event chain a bunch of times I actually got it as a rus character by just clicking the buttons randomly. Barely cost anything because I had no income from my own lands and the events scale with yearly income. It kinda sucked. Ended up having the entire world in defensive alliances against me as I never had to deal with succession, so the only people I could attack were the ones who recently broke free from their overlords
One I didn't see here is that if you go back in a Sayyid character to the Prophet Muhammed ( PBUH) he's not represented by a charqacter portrait but rather a large seal with something written in arabic
I actually love mystical part of CK2. Hope there will be dlcs and updates adding more mystical stuff into the game. But I know CK3 dev just recently said that mystical dlcs aren't planned
So is it fixed then? It used to be the case that the AI wouldn't raise runestones at all, so the cheesy way was the only way. If you can get it normally maybe I'll get it this time.
@@fyr3st0rm35have you tried wooden plank? If it don't work, a nuke may solve your issue, i do not ackownledge for side effects of a nuke like immediate vaporization and radiation
39:42 - ah ok, so you meant horrific as in actual like personal disgust, fair enough. I personally prefer the varied death sounds, minus a select few (breaking someone on the wheel is not a fun sound), but the good news is that if you prefer less annoying death sounds, there are mods that fix it. I prefer the Lego Yoda death sound mod, with a soft spot for the medieval coffin dance death sound mod.
Glad I got here early! Also, you forgot you can be a werewolf in CKII! If you’re a lunatic you have a chance of becoming a werewolf once a month, which leads to an event chain where you kill another person or animal and then gain 1 marshal. I believe you can also loose some prestige from it.
The real border gore is when your region is shaped like a triangle, because the original meaning of the word "gore" (and certainly the primary meaning at the time when the Crusader Kings games are set) is "triangle." That's why streets that cut the corner off of a grid are often called "Gore Street," because they form a triangular lot.
I managed to get the "Saga in Stone" achievement after dedicating around 8 hours of gameplay. My gameplay was far from optimal, and to make matters worse, I lost control of my realm on two separate occasions due to unexpected succession complications caused by a Muslim ruler.
"Assassin hiding in loading screen": I especially like how the cat on the bed is more focused on the can of tuna being opened in the royal kitchens than in guarding the family from the assassin :)
The biggest game of CK2 I played was a 769 Caliphate of Spain(?) start. I unified the place properly, allied with Lombardy, my best son inherited, _converted to Christianity,_ pledged vassalage to Byzantium (!) and married a Komnenos. The next time a major civil war happened, a mostly Christian hispania was the biggest kingdom in the Empire, and my line eventually became Basileus of Byzantium as well as King of Hispania. And then Emperors of Rome.
17:00 in ck3 you can still kind of pillage your own land with the extort subjects decision. Also this is the first video of yours I've seen, one new subscriber unlocked ❤️
Me neither, and I never even bought that DLC, nor did I have a desire to. It was a fun side project that some of the devs got together on in their spare time, and if you didn't buy it or if you disabled it, it would never in any way have an effect on your game. No "free patch content" that you had to put up with if you didn't like the idea. Just don't buy/don't enable and it's gone. Why people got upset over something that was completely optional I'll never understand.
24:36 To that point, there is a city in Southeast Ukraine that is named New York that has existed for hundreds of years. No one knows who founded it or why it's called New York, but some have proposed a connection to New England in Crimea.
You sort of mentioned it but eugenics is a bigger part of the game that anyone ever would have even thought before playing it. To the point I am arranging marriages to every lonely courtier to someone with traits just to help move traits down the line.
i remember one time i reunited the roman empire and went on a crusade just for my emperor and 3 of his heirs to die in a ship wreak. just had to sit there for like 5 minutes contemplating restarting it all
Don't kill your kids because of inhertance problems, just disinherit them! You're still able to give them lands and i think you can actually reinheritet them in some cases
For the getting eaten by a carp Easter egg, it may be a reference to the legendary British kings that have been eaten by fish. Also, I would’ve added the fact that the prophet Muhammad doesn’t have a character in game, he just has an icon since there’s a rule against depicting Muhammad
Oh, and there’s an event where if your character has a mask on due to disfigurement and is insane, they can plan a party where everyone has to wear masks and you could force them to never take them off.
14:49 If I remember correctly, Paradox wanted to supress "incorrect words" like Deus Vult for the Crusade or Allah Akbar for the Djihad with the release of article. Western and muslim players of the game complained about the censoring of the game, damaging his capacities to give an immersal feelings to the game, and paradox remove the idea when the game release. It was not a complain of conservatives players, it was the majority of the CK community who where against the censoring for political correctness.
Whatever, Deus Vult was probably not even used that much anyway and just an annoying thing people who don't even know how Templars actually looked like really love today. Like there is good reason to assume that it wasn't actually shouted at the Council of Clermont and was just made up by one of the guys who wrote about it to make the Pope look more like a cool populist. Like the fact none of the other witnesses even mentioned it when it was supposed to be such a big moment is really suspicious.
Wasn't it the fact that a lot of people on the Right were using it as a dog whistle about the middle east? also, I kinda just prefer not hearing "DEUS VULT!" every time I do something.
I don't know if it's an exact reference, but it's worth mentioning the "debated to death" thing could be a reference to romance of the 3 kingdoms, where Kong Ming verbally destroys a guy so badly that he clutches his heart and dies on the spot (heart attack).
I don't remember if I was a drunkard, deceitful or what, but I remember a choice in the "chess with death" event that allowed me to offer booze to death, and it drank it and lost the game.
here's a short about an event we really should've included in this iceberg 👀
ruclips.net/user/shortsxqk_qBrjGh0
I like you, Cara. 👍
The child crusade didn't happen
It wasnt manufactured drama but the fact the company was public they couldnt afford it hurting sales so they caved to pressure and kept it in the game
dang thats cool
btw why has Achamánism a site in Alexandria but not in Canaan?
"Crusades just kind of suck and like fall apart all the time"
-> CK is actually a perfect emulation of real life.
I was thinking the same thing at the part. You might get one good successful one... and then...
Wish CK3 crusades had the IRL chaos they added in ck2's 3.0 patch
"My Basileus, the Franks have conquered Antioch from the Saracens!"
"Splendid! The holy city is once more in Roman ha--"
"My Basileus...the Frank in charge of this has decided to keep the city for himself"
"..."
"..."
"This is why we have a schism"
The crusades were successful though
Not at all
No...
42:53 Even more horrifying fact about the Songs of Anguish event chain - there's a chance that the person you tried to torture and kill pulls a switch on you and you end up killing one of your children in the brazen bull instead, which you discover the next day when you find your child's skull in a box with a taunting note from the person you were trying to kill
L bozo shouldn't have been a satanist
Average brazilian day
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i remember a ck2 game i played where my youngest son was the child of satan, killed his older brothers and i became him when i died. his firstborn was the child of destiny. totally op run
Reminds me of the plot to Star Wars. Tell me you named the child of destiny Luke lol
Actually that’s kind of unironically how that should have worked, *if you are blessed by the unholy and follow his orders then one day you must get a reward…*
An even can fire when they become an adult making you an unholy general and large force.
I love that everyone ignores the fact that to get the antichrist as your heir, you need to induct a female relative into the cult and breed with her so the baby has your dynasty
Some kind of Destiny Child... they should make music.
I once had death beat me in chess. And it turns out that death is actually a character that shows up in your court prior to challenging you to the game. Just appears as a randomly -named courtier with decent stats and high intrigue. I know this because for whatever reason he didn't leave my court after killing me, instead immediately challenging my heir to a game and killed him too.
You must have tried to kill him, *WIN HIM IN HIS OWN GAME!!!*
I think I beat him twice in thousands of hours
I beat death in the chess game because my character was a lunatic. I thought that was the only way to win. How did you win?
@@craixe1 high intelligence and master of games trait
@@ultraflopp2802 trying to remember if I ever imprisoned and executed death
In Stellaris there is a reference to the gates of hell event. If you have the feudalism civic and you get the interdimensional portal event you can close the portal with a bunch of stone.
Funny pfp
Pretty sure you can also close it with *good vibes* as pacifists/spiritualists, at least that's what i remember
I'm not sure if it's this particular gate to hell, but if you have Knights of the Toxic God origin, you can also choose to send in a knight who becomes the literal Doomslayer and there are three possible outcomes within 10 years:
1: Demon Pops flood into your empire as refugees.
2: the Doomslayer returns having slaughtered all of hell.
3: The doomslayer turns evil and starts an invasion through the portal. If he takes over the planet, a Fanatic Purifier empire spawns with the Demonic Invasion Origin.
God, I love this game.
@@ineednochannelyoutube2651 Yes its the same gate
@@ineednochannelyoutube2651Damn, imagine just sending in a dude to scout the new dimension, the portal closes and ten years later the things you had to kill pop out of said portal asking for mercy
As someone who never played CK2 but has hundreds of hours in CK3, i think they need to make the latter game sillier
They really really do. The soul of ck2 was its pythonesque atmosphere. It wasn't a medieval simulator; it was a medieval story creator.
I love ck3 to death, have played hundreds of hours and genuinemy belive ck3 WILL be the better game in the long run, but rn ck2 holds the charm and dynamism (for example the fluid personalities, whereas in ck3 your personality as a 16 yo is the same for life) that gives every campaign its own unique touch
supernatural events used to be pretty boring. they spoiled the game, mainly satanism. CK3 is much better.
@@miguelpadeiro762the gui and ui in ck2 ist so baaad. I cannt play this game 😂
@@miguelpadeiro762my jewish emperor of Crimea took over the holy land and set up a usurper for Egypt and vassilszed them oh yeah and sunnis took over almost all over central Europe the Cathar heresy took over in england with a bit of help from me the whole place is a mess ive also got a horse merchant republic
Really not, CK3 is more realist and needs to stay like it.
You missed one of the coolest events from CK2. IF the child of satan is born in a position where there is NO possible way for them to ever inherit, most commonly if they belong to a muslim dynasty and are unfortunate enough to be female, they will dissapear shortly after their 16 birthday. Everyone will be super-relieved of course, since they still tend to kill some of their siblings on the way out. Roughly 20 years later they return as the leader of the Aztecs, leading the sunset invasion. And YES, this can happen at any time. I had it happen in the year 800 once. Luckily I was playing in Persia or something at the time, IIRC, so I wasn't first on their hit-list.
Kind late, but also if Satan's spawn inherit title, your government will be literally called "Kingdom of Terror"
There's the event in CK2 where it turns out someone was a bear in disguise
Sir Bearington!
I think that is a reference to an old 4Chan Greentext where a player played a character which was just a bear in disguise.
Emperitor Rome is an example of what happens when Paradox doesn't make DLC for a game. It's now in maintenance mode only.
tbh, the game was super broken und not fun to play at release which tarnished its rep forever.
Imperator failed because it was bad and barren on release and paradox then realized it was a sunk ship as people stopped paying for dlc’s and stopped playing the game.
@@xess4168 And they repeated the whole thing with vicky3.
Ironically they made the gane for DLC, leaving it super bare at release
Inverse: they designed at empty base game they expected people to flock to anyway then use the money whales to fund dlc to make it playable for extra price
I once had my genius heir get killed by the carp event, and I have never been so livid at a game in my entire life, I spent the next hour or so scowling lmao
You think thats bad... imagine... your playing Wales and only its de jure land, building it up, and then 300 years later you get hit by the black plague... and every single FUCKING PERSON in your dynasty dies
glub glub 😈 flop!
Apart from glitterhoof, I think that there is a bear event also, where a character can just reveal themselves to be a bear.
I had it happen to me in one of my first games, I think it was more like a witch or something turns you into a bear. it’s a completely random event and it just kinda derails the seriousness pf the game, especially when you did what I did and seduce like half of europe as a bear and people didn’t realize their ethnically bear children weren’t theirs
@@mithatbilgi8199I think it was a reference to a popular D&D story where a player character was secretly a bear in disguise.
@@JackEverfreei got excactly that, at bday party 18 year old heir revealed themself as bear.
30:17 - there's also the Ck2 Arc of the Covenant, which tends to spawn in the inventory of a courtier rather than the actual King of Ethiopia, so you can just bribe the guy to your court and then imprison+Execute and hope to inherit one of the most OP artifacts in the game right from day 1 (or month 1 to account for bribing and movement time)
ahah, I didn't know that
I got the immortality. It was horrible. I saw my heirs apparent die one after another. I saw my grandchild i made queen of Égypt grow old, her children wither away... I don't ever know from which side of the familly nor generation is my actual heir. I can't reform hellinism because the one time i did and converted my self , a huge crusade was launched against me and i had to convert back again.
I can't rise in secret societies. My infamy is too high. I have too good battle abilities to die in battle, my suicide attemps all end in failures..... Life is but pain. Imortality is but continious suffering.
Don't do it, except if the empire is sure to explode after your death. It's not worth it.
Sounds like a fun perspective for a short story.
Actually if you do that at point when you’re one of the most powerful guys in the world that doesn’t sound like a problem
Who wants to live forever?
Who wants to live forever?
28:54 ck3's loading screens in general are incredible. they alwas have so much depth and they make you think about the scenarious that happen in the picture and really make you forget about the long loading times
I watched a guy play CK2 I think and he replaced the death sounds with Lego Yoda dying. While annoying, it makes it funny instead of traumatizing!!
SeethTzentach?
@@johnfraire6931 Correct.
You forgot the selling your relatives to China for points
in ck3? how i do it
@@ReadyF0RHeady Only in CK2
They're the skulls of anyone with the temerity to suggest we move Saga in Stone out of the "easy" category.
Fun fact: we generate different types of characters for the Explorer from the West event. For most of the various phantom isles they can tell you about, you'll get a deceitful explorer making up stories (though the stories they make up are generally historic examples of legendary islands in the Atlantic) - an explorer generated with the honest trait will only tell you about places they've actually been to, which means Greenland, the Purple Isles, orrr... the Sunset Empire.
I've had an immortal character in CK2. I knew it was rare, but not as rare as you describe. The immortal character can live forever, but they still suffer from the effects of events. This means that after a few centuries they can end up like Monty Pythons black knight. They are an uber character with loads of bonuses, but the events have taken their toll. They have lost a leg. And an arm. And an eye. But they'll still butcher you in a duel....
I had an immortal who was caught as being a satanist and the pope would not forgive me so i kept having to fight off holy wars😊
@@steveng6721actually imagine if you could have tried to pull up a fight with the crusade alone and win, like imagine if immortal guy with the OP honour pulls up
I have yet to succeed with the immortal chain. I've been reincarnated as a child, but usually die.
I get that you don't like the CK2 wackyness and creepyness but you can't deny this game had heart. Unique in every way, 4K hours and I'm still mesmerized by it.
"crusades just kind of suck and fall apart" is the most realistic element of CK
Honestly we need a horror game based on the Crusader Kings franchise, just imagine a mix of psychological horror and a grand strategy game.
You're playing as a random count until suddendly creepy "glitches" begin to happen and weird events you have never heard begin to happen.
Lmao
The lunatic trait experience
could easily make a mod like this if you're willing
cringe
@@pirualado47 I cringed reading your reply lmao, let ppl exist ur not cool for putting others down, just an asshole 💀
Something cool that was missed is in regards to Incitatus. He isn’t the only immortal warrior who can come for you. In one my my games an immortal came after me me, but due to my high stewardship he fell in a trapdoor and put on a giant spinning wheel, it gave my capital some benefits and put him in the dungeon. I then let him out and he became my commander.
That guy comes literally every time if you have an immortal character. The other option is that you`ll have to duel him. He`s pretty strong.
@@Notmyname1593”if you’re immortal” actually that sounds kind of logical, if you have infinite time anything will eventually happen, I know that we talk about game but that’s still kind of rational
The comet is basically in pretty much every Paradox game. It's also in Stellaris, though there depending on your ideology it can be either positive or negative
No North Korea Mode? The play style that dominated Ck2 for years by owning every single holding in your kingdom.
That and the CK3 offshoot of North Korea Mode "Space Marine MAA" by stacking county buffs throughout the empire until a single heavy infantry MAA could solo an army with no casualties.
I actually had the Marci Polo event twice. The first time I didn't even realise how rare it was. After I learnt that,oh, how shocked I was to see it for the second time. Guess it's just luck.
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In regards to the chess event, there are certain things you can do to boost your odds of winning.
The game decides if you survive if you reach a certain amount of points, obviously most come from the RNG but there are a few things you can do to boost those odds.
1. Invite them in, even if you don't invite them to stay the event will fire so inviting them gives you the most amount of points.
2. Pick black, black gives you a slight point advantage while white doesn't.
3. Traits, If you have gamemaster, genius, etc. ONLY pick those RNG decisions as they massively increase your odds of winning
4. If you are feeling lucky, give up your kid, it increases your odds of playing a better move
Besides that it's all RNG.
Alcoholic too , you can try to make Death drunk
You can win if you are a lunatic.
My most memorable sunset invasion happened a few generations after I became the Saoshyant, at one point I had a german concubine who inherited a duchy after a plague swept through the HRE. Her heir became Holy Roman Emperor, turning the HRE into a bastion of zoroastrianism in central europe. To maintain the holiness of the lineage of the Saoshyant, the Persian Empire and the HRE were permanently allied (you know how). .Later when the aztec hordes came to europe, my German-Persian alliance responded with hordes of our own, eventually pushing the aztecs out of continental Europe. The lands of Charlemagne, Iberia, Poland, Mesopotamia, Syria, Palestine, etc... were all ruled by descendants of the Saoshyant by the time I moved on
Lol no zombie event, no dancing plague, no tuscan raiders. These are rare events, not "matters of life and death"
1500 hours and I have seen the zombie event 1 time.
Dancing plague isn't rare, I had it like twice. The others are tho.
43:09 - On a related note, you can also Forge a Bloodline of the Brazen Bull through some rare requirements as well.
You laugh at carp but in the past pigs often wandered into homes and ate small infants!
Also: Incitatus was the name of the horse of Caligula, who he made into a senator lol. Basically the original inspiration for Glitterhoof
43:25 Thanks for unwittingly featuring the VIET mod! It is good to see that the youths of to-day still resonate with my elderly sensibilities. (And yes it is a spoopy event chain if you get it, it was inspired by playing Stellaris late at night and hearing the spoopy Stellaris sound effects for its space horror events 😳)
After looking up VIET I'm in the process of installing all your mods. Damn you for making so much cool stuff!
@@johnfraire6931 Thank you!
With the matters of life and death event in CKII, the one time I actually had a character become immortal with it was as Ragnar Lothbrok, immediately after the Wolf Warrior's great adventure thing.
That must have been cool
@@miguelteixeira6323 Oh yeah. Ragnar was around 45ish at the time as well. He went on to conquer all of Britain + Charlemagne's lands
if you play on a potato PC, Glitterhoof also appears on while the UI is loading
The horchata from the Iberian event refers to the Valencia horchata, made with tiger nuts (although the game calls them “almond nuts”) . It doesn’t come with cinnamon. Those pictures of horchata in this video must be the Mexican horchata, where yes they add cinnamon to basically a rice juice (horchata really means the technique of juicing nuts or grains)
44:25 - IIRC there's actually like 4 separate versions of this archetype character, as a little easter egg towards Highlander and making it easier to get the achievement for killing another immortal.
I got the Shield-Maiden, which I married and we ruled the rest of the game as immortal couple.
I've actually gotten the Adoptionism event chain twice because I really love playing as an Iberian Mozarab, but both games were in special Mozarabic achievement runs so I had to turn the final event down, which is sad because it likely would have been interesting.
I think it’s funny i think it’s funny that that you mentioned that the matters of life and death event is super rare and hard to succeed but a youtuber that I like to watch called Mr. Streamer and when he used to play CK2 he’d get the event at least once per playthrough not only that but he’d succeed often. Hilariously enough even when he did an entire character about the white beast he never caught it.
I've noticed that in more recent patched, Haesteinn tends to go invade territory in Britain, which is actually pretty historically accurate. I'm wondering if that's a happy accident or if they actually directly tuned his AI to do that?
25:54. If you get the depression trait back there an event about it where your character says he remembers feeling like this, and stuff like that.
That was depressing to read
the Crusader Kings iceberg is here!... what'd we miss? 👀
thank you to Jia and Agami (Long Game Short) for all of their work on this video too!! it took us all a ton of work and i hope y'all love it c: 💖💖
Pretty hair :3
Maybe the Great Goddess Isis from HIP mod for CK2, and the The Wild Goose Chase in CK3
The one thing that scared me when playing CK2 was late at night and that Marco Polo event popped up
If you look *really* close at the loading screen, you can see a second assassin against the wall next to the first, holding a sword
Also the little kitty noticing the assassins in the bottom-right
I'm pretty sure it's just one guy holding 2 blades
the turnip act MUST be a reference to the BBC Series "Blackadder", where the Servant of Edmund Blackadder, a certain Baldrick is totaly obsessed with Turnips and exchanges a huge amount of money into a very huge turnip. don't ask me why i know that. ;-)
i just can recommend that show.
Probably it's a reference to the tunip stock exchange in the 1600s or something
Basically the Dutch economy was based around tunip varieties
Until the marked crashed
@@alfredorotondo That's Tulips, the flower, not turnips.
Can't believe the Karlings weren't mentioned in this Iceberg. Granted, they'd be on the top part of it, but still, you'd think our nightmares would be mentioned.
This video is so good. I've been playing a lot CK for years by now. Since the 2. And i've seen many of those "iceberg events", but i had no idea of a few of them. So amazing. Very well done video and very well explained.
32:32 Sadly the story of Elagabalus/Heliogabalus is mostly considered to be false. Not that they didn’t exist, but that the only major source we have of their reign is from someone who rly dislikes them, and in Roman culture the worst type of slander was being compared to a woman. Like if people found out a politician went down on his wife, that man’s career was over. It wasn’t explicitly about being a woman but about being lower, so like Ceaser’s political career was almost tanked cuz people found out he was bottoming for some king in Anatolia, but women were always seen as lower than men. As such, Elagabalus wanting to be a women shows them as being weak, spineless, and of low morals. I did my best to use gender neutral pronouns here as we still don’t know for certain, and prob never will, but I caution against using them as a trans icon.
I dunno. Insane, immoral, perverse, and prone to abusing power seems appropriate.
People forget how young Elagabalus was when he/they was in power. Compare that behavior to a young celebrity nowadays and then hype it up to a billion by being a pagan Emperor (and then the distortion of history) and it puts it into perspective.
He was a f/а/g and died like a dog.
It fine
Use the normal pronouns, he was A BOY since the day he was born until he die, wearing a skirt doesnt magically make you a girl
Hello. I would like to translate and voice your video into Russian, for a Russian-speaking audience. I've already got half of it ready. Do you allow me to post a translation of your video on my channel?
sure, go for it 😄
I think i once got the Marco event... weird but honestly you get used to creepy events in CK2. I think i had like 700-800 hours in CK2 after 500 hours i only played the Game of thrones mod.
She says "creepy," but I say, "hey, free prestige."
On the "some characters are extra special"-bit:
Could it also mean that there characters based on Paradox developers that you can invite to your court.
There are definitely characters in CK2 that are named after developers.
in CK3 ive had my spymaster seek out the culprit of a known scheme against me, and invited me down to the dungeon to see the culprit....only for me to find my spymaster in chains, and then my spymaster condemning herself and helping me interrogate herself
Heliogabalus was a roman emperor that was extremely overtly homosexual and liked to fashion and conduct himself like a woman in the time period. There are many writings to this tone about this dude among general accusations of insanity and evil.
One could argue that some of this is wildly exaggerated though.
IIRC, as he was a Phoenician priest, he also had Jupiter replaced with the Punic sacrifice goddess and sacrificed orphans to the idol. The man was insane.
@@RC15O5the most sad thing is that he was 14yo when he became a emperor, so there is a probablilty that he became a insane and deviant individual because of abuse and trauma
I think Haesting is a chump compared to Dyre the Stranger. Dyre is a 22 year old genius viking with 1000 event troops and 1/2 of them are huscarls and the other half id varangian vets. Dyre is related to every other viking Jarl on the map and can ally ALL of them. IN FACT... Dyre can Vassalize every norse viking within 10 years, and create the north sea in his own lifetime. He starts off with a norse holy site, and can easily take over 2 more and run a pilgrimage to reform Aasatru within 5 years. I have done pretty much everything with Dyre, it is Haestening on steroids. Because he starts in Kiev, noone realizes how powerful he is, because to really use his diplo ties you have to conquer some land in scandinavia. You can conquer More, and you will border sigurd and bjorn. Then you can help make sure Ivar wins against east seax. If he does you can take the county between Ivar and Halfdan. The moment Bjorn creates sweden, you subjugate him with ivar and halfdan as allies it's an easy win. Once you are king with true ruler you can vassalize all your relatives (which is like every viking that matters). You get so powerful from that that everyone else will vassalize as well. You can do the whole thing with only 3 wars. Stranger ftw.
Oooh that sounds like fun, gonna have to try that one myself 👍
After going all in on the immortality event chain a bunch of times I actually got it as a rus character by just clicking the buttons randomly. Barely cost anything because I had no income from my own lands and the events scale with yearly income.
It kinda sucked. Ended up having the entire world in defensive alliances against me as I never had to deal with succession, so the only people I could attack were the ones who recently broke free from their overlords
One I didn't see here is that if you go back in a Sayyid character to the Prophet Muhammed ( PBUH) he's not represented by a charqacter portrait but rather a large seal with something written in arabic
Because they didn't want to offend muslims. It's his name
As a Muslim, I think this is actually beautiful!
Thank you for allowing Max Effect to translate this video into Russian
I actually love mystical part of CK2. Hope there will be dlcs and updates adding more mystical stuff into the game. But I know CK3 dev just recently said that mystical dlcs aren't planned
I got Saga in Stone legitimately. I was doing a world conquest run though, so I had over 2000 dynasty members, hundreds of whom were landed.
So is it fixed then? It used to be the case that the AI wouldn't raise runestones at all, so the cheesy way was the only way. If you can get it normally maybe I'll get it this time.
I got the marco polo event once, I exclaimed polo outloud and it brightened my mood, didn't realize others would interpret it so differently
I did it everybody! Been showing my gf cara content and this was the one that got her to want to try a PDX game. It can be done!
good luck 😇🤞
@@HeyCara I think I've created a monster. Where in the instructions does it tell me how to get her to stop? 😂
@@fyr3st0rm35have you tried wooden plank? If it don't work, a nuke may solve your issue, i do not ackownledge for side effects of a nuke like immediate vaporization and radiation
39:42 - ah ok, so you meant horrific as in actual like personal disgust, fair enough. I personally prefer the varied death sounds, minus a select few (breaking someone on the wheel is not a fun sound), but the good news is that if you prefer less annoying death sounds, there are mods that fix it. I prefer the Lego Yoda death sound mod, with a soft spot for the medieval coffin dance death sound mod.
The very first time I experienced the Children's Crusade event in CKII the leader of it was a genius of my dynasty and he succeeded 🤪
Glad I got here early! Also, you forgot you can be a werewolf in CKII! If you’re a lunatic you have a chance of becoming a werewolf once a month, which leads to an event chain where you kill another person or animal and then gain 1 marshal. I believe you can also loose some prestige from it.
The real border gore is when your region is shaped like a triangle, because the original meaning of the word "gore" (and certainly the primary meaning at the time when the Crusader Kings games are set) is "triangle." That's why streets that cut the corner off of a grid are often called "Gore Street," because they form a triangular lot.
ALSO THE STRONGEST POTION EVENT IS A REFERNCE TO POTION SELLER VIDEO IF YOU EVER DO ANYTHING STARTING WITH L, S or D ITS AMAZING
I managed to get the "Saga in Stone" achievement after dedicating around 8 hours of gameplay. My gameplay was far from optimal, and to make matters worse, I lost control of my realm on two separate occasions due to unexpected succession complications caused by a Muslim ruler.
Oh yeah, Odin himself appears in both CK2 and CK3 with the Original Norse Faith. Not sure if the faith is reformed though.
"Assassin hiding in loading screen": I especially like how the cat on the bed is more focused on the can of tuna being opened in the royal kitchens than in guarding the family from the assassin :)
The biggest game of CK2 I played was a 769 Caliphate of Spain(?) start. I unified the place properly, allied with Lombardy, my best son inherited, _converted to Christianity,_ pledged vassalage to Byzantium (!) and married a Komnenos.
The next time a major civil war happened, a mostly Christian hispania was the biggest kingdom in the Empire, and my line eventually became Basileus of Byzantium as well as King of Hispania.
And then Emperors of Rome.
17:00 in ck3 you can still kind of pillage your own land with the extort subjects decision. Also this is the first video of yours I've seen, one new subscriber unlocked ❤️
As someone who intentionally chose "defaultname" as your un, do you hate or are ambivalent getting a number stapled to your name?
When you have a bad computer, when charging the game on ck3 you can see the portrait of glitterhoof
As someone who's recovering from a foot injury and surgery, I'd like that satanist healing event right about now.
I have never understood the hate for sunset invasion.
Me neither, and I never even bought that DLC, nor did I have a desire to. It was a fun side project that some of the devs got together on in their spare time, and if you didn't buy it or if you disabled it, it would never in any way have an effect on your game. No "free patch content" that you had to put up with if you didn't like the idea. Just don't buy/don't enable and it's gone. Why people got upset over something that was completely optional I'll never understand.
No wonder Marco Polo is scary
The guy isn’t even born yet and somehow two people know him
"ugh should I even say it?"
Sis... We are crusader kings players, don't act like you haven't married your sister
24:36 To that point, there is a city in Southeast Ukraine that is named New York that has existed for hundreds of years. No one knows who founded it or why it's called New York, but some have proposed a connection to New England in Crimea.
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Also the cat sitting on the bed next to the sword, it senses the assassin
Only og CK3 fans remember when the Cucumber King was unintentionally a kinslayer, due to a wrongly assigned father
You sort of mentioned it but eugenics is a bigger part of the game that anyone ever would have even thought before playing it. To the point I am arranging marriages to every lonely courtier to someone with traits just to help move traits down the line.
i remember one time i reunited the roman empire and went on a crusade just for my emperor and 3 of his heirs to die in a ship wreak. just had to sit there for like 5 minutes contemplating restarting it all
Don't kill your kids because of inhertance problems, just disinherit them! You're still able to give them lands and i think you can actually reinheritet them in some cases
So glad haestinn and koifish made it in here
I had Marco Polo event happen once… and then my character was assassinated like a game week later, so I thought it was related haha
I’ve played around 800 hours of ck2 and never once gotten child of satan but I’ve gotten multiple child of destiny children
For the getting eaten by a carp Easter egg, it may be a reference to the legendary British kings that have been eaten by fish.
Also, I would’ve added the fact that the prophet Muhammad doesn’t have a character in game, he just has an icon since there’s a rule against depicting Muhammad
Oh, and there’s an event where if your character has a mask on due to disfigurement and is insane, they can plan a party where everyone has to wear masks and you could force them to never take them off.
14:49 If I remember correctly, Paradox wanted to supress "incorrect words" like Deus Vult for the Crusade or Allah Akbar for the Djihad with the release of article. Western and muslim players of the game complained about the censoring of the game, damaging his capacities to give an immersal feelings to the game, and paradox remove the idea when the game release. It was not a complain of conservatives players, it was the majority of the CK community who where against the censoring for political correctness.
Whatever, Deus Vult was probably not even used that much anyway and just an annoying thing people who don't even know how Templars actually looked like really love today. Like there is good reason to assume that it wasn't actually shouted at the Council of Clermont and was just made up by one of the guys who wrote about it to make the Pope look more like a cool populist. Like the fact none of the other witnesses even mentioned it when it was supposed to be such a big moment is really suspicious.
Wasn't it the fact that a lot of people on the Right were using it as a dog whistle about the middle east? also, I kinda just prefer not hearing "DEUS VULT!" every time I do something.
Savescumming (in EU4, at least) is tedious but it saves me from having to restart after 10+ hours
Never thought I’d ever hear anyone say Elagabalus was wholesome in my entire life 😂😂.
What could be more wholesome than Emperor Femboy?
The child crusade did not happen. It is a mistranslation. It was the farmerscrusade.
Omg I hated the serial killer event chain. I had that like every 50 years, until recent updates I had completely forgotten about it, until now.
I remember getting game over'd by the Grim Reaper like 6 years into a CK2 save.
I don't know if it's an exact reference, but it's worth mentioning the "debated to death" thing could be a reference to romance of the 3 kingdoms, where Kong Ming verbally destroys a guy so badly that he clutches his heart and dies on the spot (heart attack).
Bro wtf, i never knew about the "Marco Polo" event before but if i got that naturally while playing i wouldve been traumatized
Why?
There's a Robin hood one too and you can recruit him
This was such a fun video! Cant believe it took me SO LONG to find you! So glad Im here now and cant wait for more content!
I found the Ark of the Covenant as a Pagan Viking king once. That was cool.
getting the shit scared out of you by a DEUS VULT 90 minutes into a game is a tradition at this point
Romance really is such a nice feature. cause romancing your tools give prestige.
Come on, no one played marco polo as a child???
I don't remember if I was a drunkard, deceitful or what, but I remember a choice in the "chess with death" event that allowed me to offer booze to death, and it drank it and lost the game.