'The Screaming Valenta' 41001 Debut Passenger Return On GCRN HD
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- The superb sight and sound of prototype HST power car 41001 starting up at Ruddington(GCRN)and then working 'The Screaming Valenta' charter, it's first passenger train since 1976 - arriving from Derby behind East Midlands Trains 43045 & 43054.
The various shunt moves at Ruddington are captured, before moving to Bridge 300 for 41001 with tones opening up the taps on its way towards Loughborough partnered with Mk3 stock once more - just a shame about the fog.
It's then seen returning into Ruddington, before shunting back off towards the shed with a final few tones.
Filmed on 15th November 2014.
It's great to see a piece of modern railway history brought back to life. Now I can't wait to see and hear it screaming down the mainlines, Bring back some childhood memories of screaming Valenta's flying by
Not only is the engine sound spot on, that has to be the most evil sounding horn I've ever heard... (augmented 4th interval ftw, most 2 tone horns are a minor 3rd)
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Not to mention the front window looks kinda spooky
@@arricat5e311 The front window looks out of scale to me. It makes the whole thing look small, like a model.
@@arricat5e311 Minion Looking
I used to build the Valenta power units, so watching these clips brings back good memories. You can never forget the scream of the Napier turbocharger spinning at 26 000rpm!
I used to drive the 43's out of Kings X up the ECML... With 4500 hp under the bonnet ( 2250 hp ) one up front and one up the botty there was plenty of power on tap... Pulling out of the station on notch five with the Paxman Valenta turbo's screaming their little heads off and clouds of exhaust smoke ( sorry Greta Thunberg ) was something to behold with more excitement to enjoy... 125 mph here we come although they would top 148 mph... Now there is food for thought but as I did not fancy tea and biscuits with the Boss well need I say more..
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Our XPT's (Bascially the Aussie version of an HST) had Valentas in them when they were delivered, but now they got upgraded with VP185's - They're due to be replaced by newer rollingstock soon.
miss hearing the howl of Valenta's that I loved when I was a kid. MTU's sound so bland and agricultural
Yes, those screaming Valenta's were something. Luckily I can still enjoy the VP185's on my local MML for a few more years yet.
At least EMT had the good grace to use VP185's unlike the other TOC's, whom opted for those nasty MTU's.
I disagree. We have the 20 cylinder version MTU in our DL class freight locomotives, and they get pretty rowdy. Very refined though compared to a General Electric 7FDL
@@stanmarsh14 VPS ARE TO LOUD CANT GO TO SLEEP NASTY MACHINES 😡😡😡😡👎
@@etsmp_gh christ mate I'd love to live where you live.
We went on the prototype at ruddington few years ago before it was moved to Locomotion.
Definitely felt nostalgic riding onboard with the legendary 41001. Stunning piece of engineering by no means.
Love the sound but damn the prototype is ugly. Much prefer the sleeker front of the production HST's. Still an amazing set though.
Luckily Kenneth Grange(now Sir)got on board and redesigned the nose from the prototype version - although now over 40 years later I quite like the old style as a piece of history.
MrDeltic15 I can see what he means the window design is a bit um weird
I like them both. The prototype is very 70s but back then it looked ultra futuristic. You half expected Nick Tate to be in the driving seat. (If you were a kin in the 70s you'll likely know what I mean. Ah nostalgia!)
that will be next diesel visitor for next year on the seven valley railway Darren because I haven't seen that prototype hst yet I hope to see it one day
I like the prototype because its the first high speed train of 1976 before the class 43 hst took over and remain for next 40 years until the class 800 the new electric train of the future mate
I regularly used to get a Valenta 125 from Reading to paddington from '91 to '95 during my time at university.
You could hear so many frequencies from that engine, predominantly the blade frequency of the turbos (the whistle) and the low-end exhaust throbbing of the V12.
I am so excited by this whole project. I remember seeing her at York and wondering to myself "I wonder if..."
Now it's reality...how utterly wonderful :) My good lady and I are sooo going on a ride when we can. Fantastic!
Tim Sully you know (because she’s owned by the GCR Nottingham) that she’s only used twice a year!
Shame now it will never be used again
J eagles why?
Great compilation Darren. So good to see and hear this loco running again. Great to have a Valenta clearing its lungs on the tracks again, hope to see it in action myself at some point.
I don't care what anyone says, its diesel engines for me! Valenta is at the top! Looked awesome coming out from the fog 👍
sure hope we can also see a HST 43 preserved soon in the near future when they get retired, but the 41001 is the best,
Superb piece of history Darren. You produce excellent videos but I'm afraid the loud clicking of your cam is very distracting, sorry to say mate. It's still a like from me tho! Thanks. Ken
Ken Browne that’s not his camera, that’s other people around him taking photos
a cyclops on rails
I’d love it if they fitted a valenta back into a preserved class 43 power car.
That's the plan!
Fantastic to see!! Lets hope its the first of many HST's that are preserved in operation for 'come the time' they no longer rule our rails! Dave
Superb video ! 👍
Excellent video Darren. Good to see 41001 back where it belongs at the lead of a HST set :)
Its the most weirdly beautiful train
as we all hate to goodbye to the hst i think its fitting to allow this to go mainline running
Imagine this prototype +the fastest Class 43 power car
I don’t remember this one. I only remember the early 125’s as having a longer front and in the BR yellow n dark blue livery from the ‘This is the age of the train’ adverts. In Oct 1982 I remember the tilting train, the APT. I was on holiday on the Grand Union Canal and in many places the rails crossed over the canals. I was so excited to see an APT but it was the only time I ever saw one.
only this video shows us how similar sounding yet how different the vp185 and valenta really are.
Definitely a contrast between the two, and then again even more if you compare with a MTU engine HST.
now if only they could do that with the APT and get the two at a gala somewhere, that would be amazing
+Midland1072 That would be sight indeed. I'm hoping that sometime in the not too distant future they can get 41001 running at speed on a mainline charter in this type of formation.
Sounds beautiful. Good old clag display too! Love it.
Sounds like Class 43 Valenta
Steam man myself but this is very nice to see.
Looks kinda like a steam engine when it throttles up!
Now that's what I call beautiful!
It was a great sight and sound to be able to capture indeed.
I did not see it sadly
0:37 RIP the ozone layer
Its white, so is simply cold.
Awesome! I really loved that engine, glad to see it back with a prototype. Project Miller is one of my favourite projects.
This is fascinating stuff. It’s a great sound. I went to Reading in 1979 to see all the HSTs and that sound was incredible. I read on Wiki that all of this is now over due to some falling out or something. Shame. I resume the run was only this single track and quite slow?
when I worked Loughborough signal box [ I was a signalman for over 33 years ] One of the other signalmen could remember hearing and seeing the trains hammering over the great central bridge.It was the fastest line with signaling system far in advance of the midland line until the managers of the midland got hold of it and shut it
yes. the great central was the last main line to be constructed around 1899 with bigger loading gauge and faster speeds with straighter lines, more like an american railway, Then they closed it and dismantled it 60 years later...
@@risvegliatoThe line should have been kept open with services all the way to Scotland
41001 sounds AMAZING!!!!!
Brilliant vid had the pleasure with working with 41001 in December 2018 when she pulled the Santa train at Mid Norfolk Railway in Norfolk. Believe she is staying here for another 2 weeks before returning to York
It is a shame that BR scrapped the second power car...
But at least money can replicate it
They can always make another one take a class 43 change the windows, buffers, cab layout and valenta engine done
A lovely piece of workmanship but can that engine not be tuned to stop polluting the atmosphere
10:54 the horn
Well Done Darren for capturing this bit of history. Mike
Cool
Great stuff. :) At last, I know why there were several people with cameras at Rushcliffe Halt when I walked past on that foggy day. :)
Looked more like a steamer at times.. Nice rare video mate.
I don’t recall this one (the first to start up) it looks like it should be a rear end and never a front engine. Very strange.
I call in Oct 1982 on holiday on a narrowboat on the Grand Union canal. Many times the rail crossed over the water and I was so excited to see a very futuristic looking APT. Never saw one before or since but I never forgot it. I was almost 12 then, now I’m heading for 48
It was a prototype to prove the HST concept
What has happened to 41001 since 2014-16 ish time
NRM wanted it back. So it's probably never gonna run again cus of the NRM being toxic.
Very nice video, likes from me !!!
Would be good to see a set made up with this at one end and the class 89 at the other
I think the prototype looks more modern than the final product...
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It looked very futuristic at the time, but I think the production design is certainly the more iconic.
In romania we have locomotive from 60s
Well done Project Miller, GCRN and EMT for their help and support. Great footage of the landmark event mate, looks like we were on the same bridge! Check out my vid for full footage ;-)
Can’t stop replaying!!!!
Sounding fantastic! Brilliant video!
A pity 002 was scrapped.
Money and talent can make a replica of it
Beautiful rail crossing.. On my channel you may find also loads of very interesting videos Best wishes!!
Should let it loose on the main line!
Is this the prototype of the intercity 125?
The leading power car is indeed one of the two from the prototype Intercity 125.
Yep
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Glad you enjoyed it, and thank you for subscribing too.
@@MrDeltic15 Ur welcome 🙏🏾
Is it the weather in UK or the British engineering? Why do British diesels smoke that much? Black smoke is ok, it means rich mixture in cylinders. But the white smoke means most of the fuel is being exhausted without burning in cylinders, and the blue means; the oil rings fail and the engine burns oil as well as fuel. And the Biritsh diesels smoke both blue and white!
0:30 Anyone else think that Armstrong Powerhouse used 41001 to gather sounds for the Valenta sound pack? The start-up sounds very similar to that of the pack, though slightly off... Am I the only one that believes this?
I thought the GCRN was 'land locked' is it now connected to the main rail network?
My Granddad drove the prototype at the 150th anniversary cavalcade of the Stockton and Darlington railway in 1975. He didn't want to though he wanted a steam train.
You can hear the clicking of the cameras and the coughing of old BR workers - Oh yes - Valenta & Emphysema
Bloke waving his arm didn’t add much. Why the constant waving?
Be cool if the auxiliary cab at the rear end of the power car could be made operational even if the power controller at aux end only had 2 power notches
They should rebuild the rear 41002 and paint the coaches
Nice to see the old girl running again, but it would have been better without the sounds dubbed over the video which spoilt it for me..
Great video!
Did it ever make it on to the main line? I can't recall seeing it out and about....
A shame that the constant talking and brats howling spoilt a good video
The most ugliest high speed train i've ever seen.
It was a prototype. The famous class 43 was the final product.
magic
Engine too quiet. Make loud.
Lol jk that thing is loud af
Ruined by Veg with motor drive camera's 😫
That is am awesome sounding Valenta! I remember the production HSTs as a boy racing through Peterborough station - impressive!!
The reason the prototype looked better is because of the unions
That horn sounds like the driver stamped on a frog.
The horn just doesn't sound right for a HST
a superb video, really enjoyable, the best loco a Deltic fan has ever filmed lol
And those who thought it was gone now preferred the sound of the VP185
Shame now it will never be used again
Nice video!
Good front comparison at 3.42
it was a great pity 41002 was scrapped
First time i have ever heard the prototype PC start up. awesome.
Enjoyed seeing the 41 it looks brilliant. its been a long time since a was there, so thank you
Wow amazing sound
+MrJoshiej It did sound very nice, and made a great sight too.
+MrJoshiej 5 Years On RUclips I saw one of the videos of it and it does have Marston on it!
A directional microphone would come in handy
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It looks brand spanking new!
That engine has some SERIOUS wear in the cylinders! Far too much blue smoke!
I was thinking that, or just a hell load of oil buildup in turbo etc
I thought the 2013 run was gonna be the only move of this beast!
Excellent video. Glad to see the smoke eventually cleared up - perhaps they put some upper cylinder lubricant in the heads for storage.
Hich
I always thought HST means High Speed Train. This looks like a VSST to me....
This was it's first proper run with a rake of Mk3 stock and production power car, so the driver was taking it a bit easy to start(and waiting to open up for the gallery on the bridge), plus the maximum speed on heritage railway lines is 25mph.
Sir Kenneth Grange's power car 253001 is the second best hst power car ever
Why?
It's great to think that although im not local to this fantastic line, but my granddad is a volunteer, so I get to visit this line every time I see him. AND THAT CLAG
+JWRailways This was my first visit to the line, but won't be my last! The clag was certainly something to see, and smell!
Nice to see the big boys coming out to play with the trains!
If the old british diesel trains looked as good as theiy sound I would be a huge fan...But this is isnt the case..Here is a perfect example...The Valenta sound is epic but this prototype look is atrocious...That front...Jesus ://
Fortunately of course this design wasn't followed through, and thanks to (Sir)Kenneth Grange we have the iconic design that's still going strong now - having said that, I like the old school 70's style of 41001 as a piece of nostalgia.
Didn't really gun it hard enough. I miss the Valenta at full cry but it was a smog machine.
Probably didn't want to risk blowing anything up on its first proper passenger run. I still remember those screaming Valentas from when I was a small boy!
Is that line connected to the mainline
Absolutely Amazed when I saw this in Bo'ness ,Falkirk Back in June 22nd to the 24th 2016 at the Diesel Gala day .Great Machine.
It's a great and historic piece of UK railway history - hope to seen it running on the mainline in the future!
Nice to see these old girls running beautifully
Great Darren, glad they played to the crowd!!!! Sounded amazing,