Antique Platform Scales
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- This video shows and describes some antique platform scales and how they work. These were sometimes called farm scales, or grain scales.
To see how I used this type of scale to weigh some garden tractors, watch one of my older videos called "What Does That Old Wheel Horse Weigh?". Here's a link to that video: • Whats That Old Wheel H... .
"sliding weight" is called a poise, "weight hanger" is a counter weight and the pro-weights go on it, pro is short for proportional, 100:1 in this case
levers, knife edges, bearings, corner bars. corner shackles or links, center link and pull rod are the correct names for base-work parts.
That scale is very insensitive, one graduation movement on the poise should move the beam through its full travel.
You need to sharpen all the knives with emery cloth to fix this issue. Also remove any cuts or wear from the bearings.
Load & fulcrum are the terms used for the knives. Zero control is the name for the balance weight
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I am wondering how to figure out what the proportion of my howe scale is. It came with only 2 weights and they aren't proportionally the same.
The only video i found which gives informed details on how the weighing machine is used. Kudos!
Hi, and Thank You! Twenty years ago our elderly neighbor gave us an Antique 1867 Howe Industrial Platform Scale (8 1/2). It was her husband's and she thought he might want us to have it. So it's been in our pole barn, unneeded for all these years. But now I have a horse who needs to have his hay weighed and none of the ways I tried worked. Husband suggested the farm scale, but I thought it wouldn't be very accurate. Silly me. I've had fun messing with it all day thanks to your video and it works great. Wouldn't have been able to "calibrate" it with out you! Thanks again for the video!
Hello Sir, and thank you for making this in depth video. Your special diagrams and extra care in filming are also appreciated.
Any idea where to buy original or reproduction wheels for the 1870 Howe Model 10? They are 4 inch diameter. I just need one.
Ian W
The name of this scale is Loose weight platform scale. the other type is a full capacity, with a sliding weight system of 2 poises, major & minor.
Howe Richardson is a famous scale maker. Other makes include Dayton (IBM) Fairbanks, Toledo, Detecto, In the UK Avery, Salter Brecknell. And in Australia Mercury, Wedderburn Hammond, Pioneer, Quality. Euro brands include Berkel, Bizerba, Mettler, Sartorious, Precisa. Asian brands include TEC, Ishida, AND,
Sorry sir, I have watched all your videos about this scale but I still don't understand a few things, how can I contact you?
Hello sir, I would like to know if there will be any error if we do not put the weight on the center of the platform?
Hi, The weight should weigh the same anywhere on the platform because the total weight should be the weight of all 4 corners added together. If you move weight from 1 corner to another corner the total weight should still be the same. If yours doesn't act that way make sure the platform or any of the arms under the platform are not touching the frame anywhere. The platform should float or swing back and forth slightly because it is hanging on loops supported by the frame.
I’m restoring the Howe model 10 which I believe is the scale in the opening shot of this video.
I was hoping you could help me out with something. I’m curious about the 4 ball bearings that are under the platform. Would you be willing to share with me some pictures of what yours look like? Should be a bearing in each corner of the internal square frame under the platform. Are the bearings surrounded by anything or are they just rolling around free within the keepers they are resting in? Would be a huge help so I know how to proceed on my scale. Thank you so much!
Hi, I don't recall seeing one with bearings in it. In this video about 8 minutes in I take the platform off of one and show what's in there. All 3 scales in this video are of similar construction. If you would like to send some pictures of what you have I can give you my opinion. Email is larry@packratsfabrications.com
Does it matter which direction the hook is connected to the platform arm?
I don't think so. As long as it is not binding, not touching anything around it. Some have a few links like a chain that have to be lined up right.
I recently restored one with two beams, one to set a tare, one 0-100 lb. 800 total capacity. It had “IMPERIAL” stenciled on the upright, patented 1880.
That's cool, I've seen multiple beams before, but not found one marked imperial.
If I want to search on google for this kind of scale especially that used by boxers, what shuld I real search to get correct results??
My scale beam is stuck to the right and won't move up and down if i don't shake the beam.
Everything on these scales needs to be hanging from the frame and should be able to at least swing back and forth a little bit. If something don't move or is stuck it is usually because something is unhooked and not hanging. Sometimes the links that parts hang on get lost.
How How much if we sell it
These are really the scales the UFC use. Wow
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Did you ever end up making a part 2? I didn’t see it on your page
Hi, sorry, I didn't made a part 2 yet. When I first made this video it didn't get many views, but over time it has worked it's way into my top 10 overall watched videos. So I think that justifies another one, and I'll try to make that happen in the next few months. Thanks for watching!
I just published the first of a series of videos about calibrating a platform scale. You can find it on my PackratsFabrications channel, or here's a link to part 1: ruclips.net/video/augOvYZeeTw/видео.html
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I have a 1000 lb fairbanks scale with two bars.I can not get this set to go to the center like your 3 do.I put 50 lbs on scale and set the top brass sliding weight to 50 lbs and it wont move.I tried for 2 hours with all the settings,im missing something.
It sounds like something is not hanging correctly. You have to make sure the platform and big arms under the platform are all hanging on the links. Also the main beam you hang weights on. They all have to be hanging to allow the balance action to happen.
@@PackratsFabrications all 4 "feet" on the platform,that set on the knife edge pieces,are flat steel,not the v groove like yours.And the two sliding brass weights on the brass bar are all the way left,which is the 18 lb marks so it looks like this scale can not 0 out.And,if i remove the hanging cast iron pot that holds the tiny BB's,and set pieces of metal on the hanging rod top,i can get the lever to center,but,a 60 lb weight shows around 30 lbs so i put the pot back on and am stuck,,thanks Randy
one more thing,my brass sliding weights have the cut out on the right side,where yours are on the left,thats why my guage shows 18 lbs when they are slid all the way left,so is that 36 lbs,min weight of this scale?
I don't think I've seen one like that, don't know anything about it. It might be made for a special purpose. If it don't go to zero you would have to have a calibration weight to zero it out. Sorry, I don't think I can help.
I have one of these in storage until I can get around to cleaning it up or restoring it. Mine is different in that it has 5 beams. I haven't seen another one with that many beams. It is made by Gaston. I haven't found much about this company either. I saw a post saying it was a Canadian company, but mine says "Beloit, Wisc." and I did see a vintage map of the area and Gaston was listed.
When I started the video, I realized mine was missing the hanger and weights. After watching, I think mine never had hanging weights, the additional beams and sliding weights take care of that function. Four of the beams go to 100 lbs, the 5th bean 220, so I assume the max weight is 660 lbs. I assume the multiple beams has something to do with being able to measure tare multiple times?
I'm missing wheels. There is a hole at each corner, so I'm sure it had them originally.
I'm not familiar with the Gaston name so I can't help on that.
On a scale with multiple beams that are the same, I believe that's for weighing individual items as they are added to the scale and the single beam would be for the tare.
Imagine starting with all beams on 0 and balanced. Then put a big milk can on the scale, and balance the beam using the single beam for tare weight. Then add milk from the 1st farmer and slide the 1st weight to balance. Add milk from the 2nd farmer and slide the 2nd weight to balance. You can do this for 4 farmers, have all the milk in one can, tell the weight of the can, and how much milk each farmer added (so they can get paid properly).
It would also work for a big box where 4 different people added parts. You'd get the weight of the box, and the weight of the parts each person added.
With that being said I'd expect some scales out there made for a special purpose in industry so I might be wrong.
@@PackratsFabrications Thanks. That is what I was thinking and tried to say, but I don't think I explained it clearly. I probably used the word "tare" incorrectly - I was using it to say the scale could be zeroed out when each item was weighed with the next item weighed being measured by the next beam, as in your example.
It certainly is unique and apparently somewhat rare from what I have seen. And, I got it for $50, which I think was pretty good. When I get it cleaned up like your three in the video, it will be a great addition to the man cave! And, it will come in handy if I want to weigh something.
If you have any ideas on where/how to get some vintage cast iron wheels for it, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks for sharing this video. I seen one on the market place. And I was wondering what a working scale like these is worth.
Hi, actually, I don't know. I used to get them at farm auctions for $25 to $60 when they're all rusty and dirty. Once in a while I got one that was complete and mechanically good but not accurate. Then I spend 50-60 hours or more to restore one. I've never sold one because I want too much money based on how much time I have in them.
Thanks for the info.
Iwould like to see more videos about these.
I just published the first of a series of videos about calibrating a platform scale. You can find it on my PackratsFabrications channel, or here's a link to part 1: ruclips.net/video/augOvYZeeTw/видео.html
This helps... Thanks 👍
Fairbanks & they aren't antiques. They still sell the exact same thing new. 😂
Any idea where to buy original or reproduction wheels for the 1870 Howe Model 10? They are 4 inch diameter. I just need one.
Hi, sorry, no I don't.
Any idea where to buy original or reproduction wheels for the 1870 Howe Model 10? They are 4 inch diameter. I just need one.
Same here. Just need 1 wheel. Shame it’s so hard to find.