Would love to see a salvage and destroy campaign. Each mission, the winner gets to salvage mechs or weapons, and use them in following missions. 5 missions total, and either IS or Mercs, vs Clan. Mercs being the only one to have access to either IS/Clan mechs/equipment. First mission starts with same values, and each mission locks at the previous missions points, to represent a fresh unit, while the winner goes up based on wins/salvage.
We have a more intricate campaign method involving salvage, though BV doesnt fluctate based on wins - they tend to become lopsided pretty quick 🙂 check out some of our older classic campaigns for an idea of how that works.
Aaron: "No one likes Clans..." There are lots of things people do not like that are in fact good for them. (Clan Ghost Bear Theta Galaxy, represent!) Still love the vids.
I like this scenario and I really like the terrain setup. It was simple but I definitely got the feel of the mountain pass. Good job Dan for your first time playing clans. Cheers guys.
Replying here, as I have been paying more attention to some of the cross chatter. The light glance into the "Formations" design has me intrigued. It looks like it could be adapted fairly well as a concept for CBT if one doesn't want to sit down and do a dive into "Campaign Operations" for the full rules. (Note: The Special Pilot Abilities as presented in that book are... not all well-balanced in my opinion, with some being too good all the time and others being too situational. But still a good thing to look at and start from.)
All sorts of head shots and floating critical hits. And Vegas needing a new change of cooling suit after getting hit in the torso. Also very considerate to have the Timber Wolf pick up the point of Elementals on the way out. Having little additions such as weather in the matches is great. Would love to see Aaron's reaction if a Fire Moth G shuttling a point of Elementals makes an entrance onto the field. 😁
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming With the unamused head shake and "Mmm....I don't like it..." when the Fire Moth ends up on the other side of the map for turn 1 due to MASC and supercharger both kicking in?
"They're the good guys" Ohh, look at Clan Wolf! They are merciful and oppose the invasion, even going as far as sending an obvious warning to the Sphere in the form of the Dragoons, and when they do invade Terra, they try really hard to avoid civilian casualties! Pah! Be bad; be Jade Falcon.
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming When you said Kevin had "departed" I had to check the comments immediately to make sure you didn't mean the worst. Glad to hear he's still kicking.
So many headshots! I've had a few games like that. Everything going according to plan and then suddenly my heavy hitter is salvage! I like the idea of these quick modules where you just pick up some minis and go. It definitely saves time, as I'm sure that many of you out there can spend entirely too much time tinkering with your lists!
In Classic, yah - but not in the Destiny rules. There were very specific reasons it was not included (the mech is otherwise in great shape, can draw enemy fire, squash infantry, charge/DFA), but might be worth taking a second look at that though. Melee needs to be worth something, as an Atlas’s kick is basically as deadly as a light with a hatchet, you know?
What a great match you should note which dice those were for your next game against Thom! Maybe Destiny operations or Narrative operations as name suggestions. Up nexet Dan vs Thom... wheres kevin? Hes on vacation. What does vacation mean? When you leave amd never come back. Or he is just chasing raccoons off his front porch with a bahhhroooooom.
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming also forgot to mention RAW elementals are so dirty though to kill have a bounus +1 "small hard to hit" and more armor and hp than some mechs per elemental in the point, hey arent mobile but they can just sit and soak for days.
The +1 is included here! We actually build it right into their TMM… yah that means they dont get it when standing still or whatever but its certainly easier to not forget it that way 😁
Ok, so here is my analysis, and I know I'm going to sound whiny buuuuut, here it goes. After watching the las 4 Destiny Reports (including this one), I believe the that the rules and other special scenario bits are leaning quite heavily in IS favor. If we look objectively at this report, taking into account the era, the technical difference between IS and Clan is in no way as disproportionate as in the 3050's. In this report, IS had 2 heavies (one which moves 5/8) a meaty medium and the light was Clan and one that dishes a ton of damage (great mech BTW). With the damage that it took and no weapon it should have not been aloud to cap. I don't know if you remember in the old rules (and I mean FASA era) one rule that sort of mitigated the absurd cost of Clan mechs was the fact that their pilots base skills always started at 1 better than IS, so Clan would start at I think either 3/4 or 4/5 and IS 1 skill lower. It wasn't great but at least it reflected the superiority of their pilots compared to IS. I don't know, but I feel the rules in general try to make it easier for IS as much as they can. I personally think that the best way around this is the numerical advantage of the IS where fights were usually 8v5 or 12v10. Aaron, you and the guys are doing a great job coming up with the rules and tweaking them as you go, so cudos to you all, but I think it still needs balancing. Anyways, enough whining for now, as always, awesomely fun report, shout out to Dan who always takes everything in stride (that's the true spirit of playing for fun) and warm wishes from the Tropics!
On one hand I see your point, but I do think that the clans didn't really play to their advantage here. I wonder has Dan had more experience with them would the gap be so noticeable. The timberwolf wasted turns sprinting and the ranged advantage was lost as they went straight to the centre. Clan need to really use their speed and firepower to keep the target mods up and delete the IS mechs.
Clans already get a skill boost. I think a lot of these games end up being very close - but let’s face it, Clan mechs are not the gods they are in the books. Also didnt Thom win one and draw another? 🙂
I played a 12k BV Clan vs IS match of BT:Destiny today and won handily while playing my Clan machines to their strengths. Keep your distance, keep moving and only close in to deal the killing blows. It was a Clan Invasion era game though, maybe the technological lines are more blurred later down the line.
@@sebastiang.5032 Congrats fellow Clansman! 💪 Jokes aside, I think the point of the tech down the line being more on par is where it gets blurry as you very well state. If you play one with 3100's era tech let me know if it's the same or if, as I think, it gets much more favorable to IS. Either way, the point about playing to the Clan's strength is a very good one. I notice a rush to get close up in the reports and I think, as you state, that's where they shoot themselves on the foot!
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming True, thought on the one he won he had 4 heavies and 1 assault, he had a good advantage there 😬. And let's face it, the one he drew, you couldn't get that beast of a Crusader to properly affect the game. But yeah, as I said originally, I know I'm whining 😂. Let us see what the next report brings 😏. Dan, use more Large Pulse Lasers!!! 🤣
Well about this time yeah IS was starting to use clan material with frequency since the Sharks were selling. The Cougar, Madcat MKII and III, Nova cat, Crimson Hawk and the Warhammer IIC all became not uncommon to see in house units or rich merc groups. Anyways hoping to see where this goes. I can imagine the Lyrans and Free Worlds league are going to go after the empire and the falcon occupation zone since both clans will be preoccupied with Terra and what's left of the republic. Just hope Aaron you got a Juliano which is probably my favorite FWL assault nothing says goodbye like 4 clan streak 6's and 3 ER larges.
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming so many terrible marik assaults then the juliano shows up and its as good as anyone has and has a great look. So many of the FWL assaults are down right fugly, looking at you albatross.
Great Stuff. Anything Battletech is great. Although I prefer original Battletech, the post Succession Wars Low Tech & Legacy Mechs, thank you for continuing to promote Battletech, Clans Blow, Long live the Periphery!
After Coventry a lot were captured and the mech became very popular in the IS. I mean heck I have a Mad Cat MKII in Davion colors from my civil war unit as the Sharks were selling them to everyone post 3062.
@@rollingthunder55 I know, you're right, it's just that Aaron is always hating on the Clans but couldn't pass up the opportunity to use one of their mechs for his units 🥴. That's why the Clans call him dezgra! 🤣
Nice!! KEystone XL Pipeline is a go!!! Oh wait... this is a batrep.... Thought we were about to get our economies turned around and get a bunch of people employed! oh well, great vid as usual!
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming I was passively listening to autoplay of my "Watch Later" and I thought it was some good news from an Epoch Times news video, lol, but who am I kidding, surely mining up all the lithium in the world will supply us with enough batteries for every car to go electric.. and somehow we'll have the power on the grid to charge them all every day and night (despite the warnings in the UK that they will for a LONG time only be allowing people to charge at certain times in the day)... But yeah, great video and looking forward to the rest of the campaign.
using edge on your opponents rolls is one of the worst mechanics. That floating critical to the head would've been super cinematic.. you just turned it to a feels bad moment. He did something but it should've been a kill and second time later in the game. Doesn't look like clans and innersphere are balanced yet... seems like every game is an uphill battle for the clans, sure they eek out a win once or twice. But the numerical advantage with edge/activations/bodies, not to mention IS pilots seem to hit as well as the clan ones. In the lore the clans are scary, in these games seem like a paper tiger xD Nice to see some battletech though :)
Do the math though. Head shots are very lethal. Edge is pretty much explicitly there as a second chance mechanic for that. Most TICs can take out a head in one shot, and 1:36 times your rolling a 12 on location. I do agree that the clan/IS thing is tough to balance - even in AS and Classic we have the same issue.
Would love to see a salvage and destroy campaign. Each mission, the winner gets to salvage mechs or weapons, and use them in following missions. 5 missions total, and either IS or Mercs, vs Clan. Mercs being the only one to have access to either IS/Clan mechs/equipment. First mission starts with same values, and each mission locks at the previous missions points, to represent a fresh unit, while the winner goes up based on wins/salvage.
We have a more intricate campaign method involving salvage, though BV doesnt fluctate based on wins - they tend to become lopsided pretty quick 🙂 check out some of our older classic campaigns for an idea of how that works.
"Before Kevin's departure"??? What happened to Kevin? Will Kevin be back? Free Kevin Free Kevin Free Kevin!
#teamkevin where is Kevin, the initiative king!
I think he ran into a super-heavy mech called “changes to real life situation”, unfortunately
Those known as "Kevin" are often an alternate food source.
Free Kevin Militia ready and waiting
Aaron: "No one likes Clans..."
There are lots of things people do not like that are in fact good for them. (Clan Ghost Bear Theta Galaxy, represent!)
Still love the vids.
I say this in jest of course!
Saw part 2 popup today, and realized I missed part 1. Suppose I will fix that now.
Binge sesh
Just looked through your Rules. Love the morale, the sensor and activation order rules! Very nice!
I like this scenario and I really like the terrain setup. It was simple but I definitely got the feel of the mountain pass. Good job Dan for your first time playing clans. Cheers guys.
Oh, hey, another one of these! Always good to see another series of missions go up, and now to view!
Replying here, as I have been paying more attention to some of the cross chatter. The light glance into the "Formations" design has me intrigued. It looks like it could be adapted fairly well as a concept for CBT if one doesn't want to sit down and do a dive into "Campaign Operations" for the full rules.
(Note: The Special Pilot Abilities as presented in that book are... not all well-balanced in my opinion, with some being too good all the time and others being too situational. But still a good thing to look at and start from.)
Yes. We are working up a doc now and have it in good working order. Totally applicable to classic or even AS.
Before his departure? I hope Kevin is ok!
Another fun watch. I liked seeing elementals in the mix. I was waiting to see them jump on a mech and peel it open.
Great battlerep! Great terrain! Looking forward to more videos.
All sorts of head shots and floating critical hits. And Vegas needing a new change of cooling suit after getting hit in the torso. Also very considerate to have the Timber Wolf pick up the point of Elementals on the way out.
Having little additions such as weather in the matches is great.
Would love to see Aaron's reaction if a Fire Moth G shuttling a point of Elementals makes an entrance onto the field. 😁
It would begin with me throwing dice at my opponent. Haha
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming With the unamused head shake and "Mmm....I don't like it..." when the Fire Moth ends up on the other side of the map for turn 1 due to MASC and supercharger both kicking in?
"They're the good guys"
Ohh, look at Clan Wolf! They are merciful and oppose the invasion, even going as far as sending an obvious warning to the Sphere in the form of the Dragoons, and when they do invade Terra, they try really hard to avoid civilian casualties! Pah! Be bad; be Jade Falcon.
Thom loves this comment
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming And I love Thom! Seyla!
Yes! Super excited to watch this. 😍🐺😍🐺😍
Yeah where is Kevin? Been waiting for him to show up for ages.
His schedule has been increasingly difficult and it finally hit a point where it made sense for him to step away.
#teamkevin vs #teamthom match!
Did Kevin leave for good or will he be coming back?
Unsure! We miss him though!
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming When you said Kevin had "departed" I had to check the comments immediately to make sure you didn't mean the worst. Glad to hear he's still kicking.
He is still alive lol
Good fun! Thanks for doing the report.
So many headshots! I've had a few games like that. Everything going according to plan and then suddenly my heavy hitter is salvage! I like the idea of these quick modules where you just pick up some minis and go. It definitely saves time, as I'm sure that many of you out there can spend entirely too much time tinkering with your lists!
Dan rolls 12s like no other human.
Has Kevin left permanently?
We aren’t sure what the future holds - but for now it just isn’t something he can do. Maybe down the road his schedule will free up.
That Patron list is getting HUGE! Awesome to see so many that "love Stompy Robots more than Starbucks." LOL
Haha indeed!
Excellent. Go forth my purple minions, and destroy Clan Woof Woof forever!
KEVIIIIIIIN! Where is Kevin? Please tell us he's on vacation. BTW, I love the clans (and now I can hear the rain of memes and hate). 😅🤣😂
Kevin in exile! Some day he will return to save the innersphere!
Heh, the Cougar is for sale to any IS power now from Sea Fox. Buy your Cougar today!
NO CREDIT? NO PROBLEM. hahah
Great mission. Any plans on more Alpha Strike batreps coming out and campaigns.
Nothing is off the table. We still have some more Destiny in the tank as we’re working on the “final” major iteration to the rules now.
It's very interesting, the FWL is fighting it's first clan enemy; and it clan wolf
I believe that if a mech does not have weapons it is in forced withdrawl. That cougar should have been running home to Mama Tech.
In Classic, yah - but not in the Destiny rules. There were very specific reasons it was not included (the mech is otherwise in great shape, can draw enemy fire, squash infantry, charge/DFA), but might be worth taking a second look at that though. Melee needs to be worth something, as an Atlas’s kick is basically as deadly as a light with a hatchet, you know?
That was a good game. Well done.
Is Kevin going to be in the next battle report?
Your game mats are impressive. Ever do a video on how you set them up with the non-stepped terrain and what mats you use?
Check the Hobby playlist - you'll find one in there!
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming found it, thank you
What a great match you should note which dice those were for your next game against Thom!
Maybe Destiny operations or Narrative operations as name suggestions. Up nexet Dan vs Thom... wheres kevin? Hes on vacation. What does vacation mean? When you leave amd never come back. Or he is just chasing raccoons off his front porch with a bahhhroooooom.
Definitely raccoons.
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming also forgot to mention RAW elementals are so dirty though to kill have a bounus +1 "small hard to hit" and more armor and hp than some mechs per elemental in the point, hey arent mobile but they can just sit and soak for days.
The +1 is included here! We actually build it right into their TMM… yah that means they dont get it when standing still or whatever but its certainly easier to not forget it that way 😁
Ok, so here is my analysis, and I know I'm going to sound whiny buuuuut, here it goes. After watching the las 4 Destiny Reports (including this one), I believe the that the rules and other special scenario bits are leaning quite heavily in IS favor. If we look objectively at this report, taking into account the era, the technical difference between IS and Clan is in no way as disproportionate as in the 3050's. In this report, IS had 2 heavies (one which moves 5/8) a meaty medium and the light was Clan and one that dishes a ton of damage (great mech BTW). With the damage that it took and no weapon it should have not been aloud to cap. I don't know if you remember in the old rules (and I mean FASA era) one rule that sort of mitigated the absurd cost of Clan mechs was the fact that their pilots base skills always started at 1 better than IS, so Clan would start at I think either 3/4 or 4/5 and IS 1 skill lower. It wasn't great but at least it reflected the superiority of their pilots compared to IS. I don't know, but I feel the rules in general try to make it easier for IS as much as they can. I personally think that the best way around this is the numerical advantage of the IS where fights were usually 8v5 or 12v10. Aaron, you and the guys are doing a great job coming up with the rules and tweaking them as you go, so cudos to you all, but I think it still needs balancing. Anyways, enough whining for now, as always, awesomely fun report, shout out to Dan who always takes everything in stride (that's the true spirit of playing for fun) and warm wishes from the Tropics!
On one hand I see your point, but I do think that the clans didn't really play to their advantage here. I wonder has Dan had more experience with them would the gap be so noticeable. The timberwolf wasted turns sprinting and the ranged advantage was lost as they went straight to the centre. Clan need to really use their speed and firepower to keep the target mods up and delete the IS mechs.
Clans already get a skill boost. I think a lot of these games end up being very close - but let’s face it, Clan mechs are not the gods they are in the books.
Also didnt Thom win one and draw another? 🙂
I played a 12k BV Clan vs IS match of BT:Destiny today and won handily while playing my Clan machines to their strengths. Keep your distance, keep moving and only close in to deal the killing blows. It was a Clan Invasion era game though, maybe the technological lines are more blurred later down the line.
@@sebastiang.5032 Congrats fellow Clansman! 💪 Jokes aside, I think the point of the tech down the line being more on par is where it gets blurry as you very well state. If you play one with 3100's era tech let me know if it's the same or if, as I think, it gets much more favorable to IS. Either way, the point about playing to the Clan's strength is a very good one. I notice a rush to get close up in the reports and I think, as you state, that's where they shoot themselves on the foot!
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming True, thought on the one he won he had 4 heavies and 1 assault, he had a good advantage there 😬. And let's face it, the one he drew, you couldn't get that beast of a Crusader to properly affect the game. But yeah, as I said originally, I know I'm whining 😂. Let us see what the next report brings 😏. Dan, use more Large Pulse Lasers!!! 🤣
Well about this time yeah IS was starting to use clan material with frequency since the Sharks were selling. The Cougar, Madcat MKII and III, Nova cat, Crimson Hawk and the Warhammer IIC all became not uncommon to see in house units or rich merc groups. Anyways hoping to see where this goes. I can imagine the Lyrans and Free Worlds league are going to go after the empire and the falcon occupation zone since both clans will be preoccupied with Terra and what's left of the republic. Just hope Aaron you got a Juliano which is probably my favorite FWL assault nothing says goodbye like 4 clan streak 6's and 3 ER larges.
Haha I have a Juliano painted up - maybe you’ll see it 😁
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming so many terrible marik assaults then the juliano shows up and its as good as anyone has and has a great look. So many of the FWL assaults are down right fugly, looking at you albatross.
Idk I kinda like the goofy shoulder cannon wanna-be Shadow Hawk look
That Cougar... Wow. I can just imagine the tech that has to work on it after: "It smells like butt sweat and taco bell in here. What did you do?!"
LOL
good fight, good job on both sides but i'm really happy that the FWL gets this one
Where the objective markers come from? They look perfect scale
Thanks! I got them off ebay years ago - sadly the guy no longer makes them/went out of business.
Is the intro song a new track? Very 1980s. Love it!
Maybe 😁 Just wrapped up song 11 on the new album. Last one is in the pipe then patrons get to name some tracks.
Y’all, I mf love the radio chatter introducing battles. I hope that stays.
Haha thanks 🙂 glad to know it!!
Remember, boxcars = HEADSHOT
Hey guys I've been meaning to ask, where can I get the mech blip counters and objective counters you guys use?
Objectives are not made anymore unfortunately. The blip counters can be found on thingiverse.
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming Thanks for the info 😁👍
Are these campaign rules available for others yet or are they still in testing?
They are available on Patreon right now.
Nice seeing hills on a table.
where to find .mtf files for vechicles and aerospace for destiny
Download megamek lab. Theyre all in the the zip.
Great Stuff. Anything Battletech is great. Although I prefer original Battletech, the post Succession Wars Low Tech & Legacy Mechs, thank you for continuing to promote Battletech, Clans Blow, Long live the Periphery!
Loved it
Where do you get the "Mech Bleeps" and Objective Markers
Fun Game, I was rooting for the Clan
Objectives are not made anymore unfortunately. The blip counters can be found on thingiverse.
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming Thank you
I'm loving seeing the Cougar in action, but, on the IS side? That's a low blow Aaron, a low blow! 😓
It’s the 3100s. Everyone has clan mechs and electric cars. 😆
Yeah, even Grandma pilots a Summoner now! 😵😂🤣😅
After Coventry a lot were captured and the mech became very popular in the IS. I mean heck I have a Mad Cat MKII in Davion colors from my civil war unit as the Sharks were selling them to everyone post 3062.
@@rollingthunder55 I know, you're right, it's just that Aaron is always hating on the Clans but couldn't pass up the opportunity to use one of their mechs for his units 🥴. That's why the Clans call him dezgra! 🤣
Nice!! KEystone XL Pipeline is a go!!! Oh wait... this is a batrep.... Thought we were about to get our economies turned around and get a bunch of people employed! oh well, great vid as usual!
LOLLLLLLLLLLL
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming I was passively listening to autoplay of my "Watch Later" and I thought it was some good news from an Epoch Times news video, lol, but who am I kidding, surely mining up all the lithium in the world will supply us with enough batteries for every car to go electric.. and somehow we'll have the power on the grid to charge them all every day and night (despite the warnings in the UK that they will for a LONG time only be allowing people to charge at certain times in the day)... But yeah, great video and looking forward to the rest of the campaign.
BTW Dan, if use a Shadow Cat again, use config M, Lrg Pulse Laser 😏
using edge on your opponents rolls is one of the worst mechanics. That floating critical to the head would've been super cinematic.. you just turned it to a feels bad moment. He did something but it should've been a kill and second time later in the game. Doesn't look like clans and innersphere are balanced yet... seems like every game is an uphill battle for the clans, sure they eek out a win once or twice. But the numerical advantage with edge/activations/bodies, not to mention IS pilots seem to hit as well as the clan ones. In the lore the clans are scary, in these games seem like a paper tiger xD Nice to see some battletech though :)
Do the math though. Head shots are very lethal. Edge is pretty much explicitly there as a second chance mechanic for that. Most TICs can take out a head in one shot, and 1:36 times your rolling a 12 on location.
I do agree that the clan/IS thing is tough to balance - even in AS and Classic we have the same issue.
Oh when did you guys start playing alpha strike?? Shame
#freekevin
Sorry, but I am a filthy Falcon.
Sounds like you are team Thom.