WE NOW KNOW WHY THE MONTREAL CANADIENS PASSED ON MATVEI MICHKOV… HABS DIRECTOR OF SCOUTING SPEAKS
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We're talking about Philadelphia Flyers prospect Matvei Michkov, and Nick Bobrov's recent comments as to why the Montreal Canadiens passed on him.
Habs Prospects Guide: recrutes.ca/20...
This video is taking place after the 2024 NHL Entry Draft, and after the 2024 Stanley Cup Playoffs.
The 2024 NHL Draft 1st Round went as follows:
1st) San Jose Sharks, Macklin Celebrini
2nd) Chicago Blackhawks, Artyom Levshunov
3rd) Anaheim Ducks, Beckett Sennecke
4th) Columbus Blue Jackets, Cayden Lindstrom,
5th) Montreal Canadiens, Ivan Demidov
6th) Utah Hockey Club, Tij Iginla
7th) Ottawa Senators, Carter Yakemchuk
8th) Seattle Kraken, Berkly Catton
9th) Calgary Flames, Zayne Parekh
10th) New Jersey Devils, Anton Silayev
11th) San Jose Sharks (from Buffalo Sabres), Sam Dickinson
12th) Minnesota Wild (from Philadelphia Flyers), Zeev Buium
13th) Philadelphia Flyers (from Minnesota Wild), Jett Luchanko
14th) Buffalo Sabres (from Pittsburgh Penguins via San Jose Sharks), Konsta Helenius
15th) Detroit Red Wings, Michael Brandsegg-Nygard
16th) St. Louis Blues, Adam Jiricek
17th) Washington Capitals, Terik Parascak
18th) Chicago Blackhawks (from New York Islanders), Sacha Boisvert
19th) Vegas Golden Knights, Trevor Connelly
20th) New York Islanders (from Tampa Bay Lightning via Chicago Blackhawks), Cole Eiserman
21st) Montreal Canadiens (from Los Angeles Kings), Michael Hage
22nd) Nashville Predators, Yegor Surin
23rd) Anaheim Ducks (from Toronto Maple Leafs), Stian Solberg
24th) Utah Hockey Club (from Colorado Avalanche), Cole Beaudoin
25th) Boston Bruins (from Boston Bruins via Detroit Red Wings and Ottawa Senators), Dean Letourneau
26th) Los Angeles Kings (from Winnipeg Jets via Montreal Canadiens), Liam Greentree
27th) Chicago Blackhawks (from Carolina Hurricanes), Marek Vanacker
28th) Calgary Flames (from Vancouver Canucks), Matvei Gridin
29th) Dallas Stars, Emil Hemming
30th) New York Rangers, EJ Emery
31st) Toronto Maple Leafs (from Edmonton Oilers via Anaheim Ducks), Ben Danford
32nd) Edmonton Oilers (from Florida Panthers via Philadelphia Flyers), Sam O'Reilly
This video is also taking place after 2024 NHL Season, and after the 2024 Stanley Cup Playoffs, where the Florida Panthers defeated the Edmonton Oilers in the Finals.
Matvei Michkov was one of the top NHL prospects at the 2023 NHL Entry Draft.
The 2023 NHL Entry Draft saw many top NHL prospects get selected by a variety of teams. The Top 27 of the draft went as follows:
1st) Chicago Blackhawks, Connor Bedard
2nd) Anaheim Ducks, Leo Carlsson
3rd) Columbus Blue Jackets, Adam Fantilli
4th) San Jose Sharks, Will Smith
5th) Montreal Canadiens, David Reinbacher
6th) Arizona Coyotes, Dmitri Simashev
7th) Philadelphia Flyers, Matvei Michkov
8th) Washington Capitals, Ryan Leonard
9th) Detroit Red Wings, Nate Danielson
10th) St. Louis Blues, Dalibor Dvorsky
11th) Vancouver Canucks, Tom Willander
12th) Arizona Coyotes (from Ottawa Senators), Daniil But
13th) Buffalo Sabres, Zach Benson
14th) Pittsburgh Penguins, Brayden Yager
15th) Nashville Predators, Matthew Wood
16th) Calgary Flames, Samuel Honzek
17th) Detroit Red Wings (from New York Islanders via Vancouver Canucks), Axel Sandin Pellikka
18th) Winnipeg Jets, Colby Barlow
19th) Chicago Blackhawks (from Tampa Bay Lightning), Oliver Moore
20th) Seattle Kraken, Eduard Sale
21st) Minnesota Wild, Charlie Stramel
22nd) Philadelphia Flyers (from Los Angeles Kings via Columbus Blue Jackets), Oliver Bonk
23rd) New York Rangers, Gabe Perreault
24th) Nashville Predators (from Edmonton Oilers), Tanner Molendyk
25th) St. Louis Blues (from Toronto Maple Leafs), Otto Stenberg
26th) San Jose Sharks (from New Jersey Devils), Quentin Musty
27th) Colorado Avalanche, Calum Ritchie
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Those who truly understand what it takes in terms of ingredients and balance for a team to become highly competitive, know Reinbacher's value. Reinbacher will be an important piece of the puzzle.
Reinbacher was ranked 15 to 20 and has top 4 def ceiling Demidov is great playmaker we need great sniper I get we have caufield but you keep the best of the 2 that's all u don't pick by need with a top 5 pick and mitchkov has a higher ceiling then caufield imagine Mithkov-Demidov-Slaf and our other line could be caufield -suzuki-dach
@@alphamale4182 What you are saying is completely false for those who have a real understanding of hockey. Reinbacher was the best D available and also right-handed. As you don't seem to have what it takes to evaluate a player of this quality because you are parroting, it's better to abstain.
I quickly assessed his all-around talent and ranked him 6th in the draft before Michkov's character issues became apparent. Nashville was willing to lose Askarov for Reinbacher and Arizona had him in their sights. Reinbacher was unanimous among the Canadiens scout team and it is a very high quality team.
The Habs front office does not want any player who will break the team's chemistry and Michkov has a personality completely contrary to what the Canadiens are looking for. You can cry all you want but one-dimensional talent is not enough, you need a character that contributes to building a champion team
@@danielmontreal007 who cares what you ranked him as? What do you know? 90% of scouts if not more had him ranked 15-20 very few even at 30... Plus the following year was a big defense draft year where popcorn wouldn't even be a 1st rounder he's ceiling is still top 4 def Mitchkov will be one of the best scorers in the league and habs fans like you will cry that habs just can't score as usual you need to learn about what you're talking about kid
Philly fans aren't still wondering why they went with York over Caulfield.
At this point I think York has a higher ceiling as a possible top pair D, he’s been looking better each year. I used to think the opposite, but I feel better about it now.
Still thanking Philly for passing up Goal Caufield...
@th1pool LOL at this point he will be a bust in his first year with philly cause of torts his gonna turn him into defensive player till he gets fired also habs fan needs to shut up abt him like bunch of whiners they dont even know he might turn into bust 😂
York is actually better tho.
@@kylevoko-o9gwell you just proved that you know nothing about hockey or just following the line of people who say torts is going to ruin him. You remind me of all the white moms out there that just follow each other into thinking. It's good to have your child be a transgender.
With all due respect, this is all moot. The Habs have assembled a group of players and prospects with the skill to win games and the Cup! To win the Cup, we all know you need not only talent, but intelligent and driven players who care more about the team than their own stats. That's what Hughes has almost finished building.
So who cares? I hope Michkov has a wonderful career in the NHL, and don't see why he won't.
And I'm confident Demidov will have his jersey retired in Centre Bell.
When Michkov was available to be drafted the information at the time was that he would remain under KHL control for 3 years.which would take his development out of Montreal's hands. Reinbacher on the other hand was one of the two best defensive prospects in that year's draft. The difference this year with Demidov us that he has made it known that he intends to come over in a year, allowing the Canadiens to have control over his development. The history of the NHL is littered with prospects that flamed out due to not being developed properly.
It’s weird that they just don’t stop. Nobody from Philly even thinks about Montreal and whoever they drafted last year. Good luck to them though.
There's been a back and forth since the 2019 draft when the Flyers passed on Caufield and the Habs picked him. Some Habs fans have taunted Flyers fans about it, so when the Habs passed on Michkov and the Flyers picked him some of their fans made sure to return the favor. With the Demidov pick some coping Habs fans try to pretend they never cared for Michkov in the first place and Demidov is better anyway. It's really just a small minority of each fanbase who cares about it. Both teams seem to be happy with their pick and personally I hope they both have a very successful career in the NHL.
its loaded with center i hope we pick any left wingers for top 6 i hope
Believe me real Habs fans don't care that Michkov fell to 7th
Reinbacher reminds me of the KK deal, they picked by need with top 5 pick for a guy ranked 15-20 and they passed on a potential franchise scorer to do so they will regret unless Reinbacher turns out number 1 def for habs and one of the best in league which i doubt so do most scouts (ceiling top 4 def) but who knowz
This is your poorest yet. Habs fans are happy with Reinbacher and Deminov
🤣😂🤣🤣👌
I'm not happy with popcorn but I am with demidov
and laine 😋
Lmao this remind me of Marc bergevin in the Hughes draft ‘ we didn’t draft Quinn Hughes because we already had V. Mete in our organization 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
but we were never close to get 1st overall pick tho we were chasing for playoffs instead of tanking
Habs are a joke they chose kotkanemi over Hughes 🤣
@@Canucksnate hughes was drafted first while we were chasing for playoffs not tanking
@@JeanJames-ff3wx I’m talking about Quinn Hughes
@@Canucksnate Worst part is that KOTKANIEMI is not necessarily a bad hockey player. He is a solid 3rd liner the problem is that they picked him wayyyyyyyy to early.
Look at the player that were picked in that draft after KOTKANIEMI.
Tkachuk
Hughes
Bouchard
Dubson
.
It’s not an understatement to say The 2018 draft hurt Mtl badly.
I can live with that explanation much better than them saying Reinbacher was best available.
He was the best defender available which is what Hughes and Gorton said on draft day..why are we still beating a dead horse
The whole not taking him" because he's got 3 years left on his deal in the KHL" is a load of crap. There have been precedents set before where NHL teams were able to get Russian prospects out from under their contracts and moved over to the NHL with term still left on it. Kuznetsov is a big example. I'm pretty sure he still had 2 years left on his deal when he first came over. Management didn't like the guy, and the fans did, plain and simple. Boneheaded move though, cause you could've have Michkov AND Deimedov (sorry I butchered that)
The sports world is not binary. “Management didn’t like the guy and the fans did.” “ The Fans” is a generalization. Many of us fans wanted Reinbacher, because there are many experienced fans in Montreal who understand what it takes to build a truly competitive team. “Management didn’t like him” is a gratuitous statement, actually you don’t know. But what we do know is Mishkov despite his young age showed several signs of worrying temperament. Fortunately the management of the Canadiens was well informed, especially with Brobrov.
are you living under the rock? michkov wants nothing to do with montreal and canadien teams
@@kylevoko-o9g You are right and there were several other very disturbing credible reports about Michkov.
I think the contract was only part of the "questions"surrounding him. There is a war going on and Russia is involved in it, they also have compulsory military service for 3 years when kids turn 18 in Russia. Yes they make exceptions for athletes and other professions but there was no way of knowing if the government would demand he serve his military time before going to the NHL at which point who knows how good or how long before he would be in the league. As Irecall the Habs drafted 5th not 1st and they were one of 6 teams to not take the chance. It might also explain why Demidov fell to 5th despite being touted as the 2nd best player available. Let's let the kids play a few years before we call it a bone headed move.
@@danielmontreal007 yes he badly wanted to be a philly so i think as soon philly were not close to get them he decided to sign a 3 year deal with ska so teams dont pick him that includes montreal he even said to demidov on ig to come to philly even tho he didint respond
We could of had
Mithkov-Demidov-Slaf
Caufield-Suzuki-Dach
Roy-Beck-Hage
Florian-Evans-Tuch
PP
Mithkov-Demidov-Slaf
Caufield-Hutson
Dam you kent
Personally I would’ve taken the chance on Michcov but I still would’ve taken Leonard before David…, David…
Coping is insane
Not true. Habs fans are not OBSESSED with Michkov. Unless you suffer from confirmation bias.
We shall see what Reinbacher becomes. Yes, experts say he will be a top 4 and on the right side, so great. Yet again, Mitchov and Demidov ??? Now that would have been awesome.
Canadiens fans are now acting like they only care that Michkov is seen as a better prospect than Demidov…after talking down Michkov for an entire year after the 2023 draft.
Nobody talked him down, absolutely nobody. Entire franchise was heartbroken that we didn’t pick an easy franchise defying player.
@@austinnitsua4904 That’s simply not true. Maybe you didn’t and respect for that, but there were tons of MTL fans trolling Flyers Twitter for the entire last season when anything Michkov would be discussed.
@@austinnitsua4904 I hope both teams end up with great players. I honestly shouldn’t have even commented what I did because it just furthers the unnecessary barking between fan bases.
@@andrewptob I don’t doubt a few did but majority didn’t. I surround myself with non delusional habs fans that’s for sure lmaoo. Yeah both teams are going to hopefully end up with great players (I like Michkov more personally but I could see an argument either way). Not that I don’t like Reinbacher but when you’re drafting at 5 and pass up on possibly the best Russian prospect since Ovi…
@@andrewptob Not related to anything you said but I hate the notion that Michkov has an attitude problem (a lot of this is from the fact that he basically chose who he wanted to be drafted by) but if I were in a similar situation I would do the exact same thing.
No use crying over spilled milk when the cow hasn't even been milked yet. As a Habs fan I didn't lose any sleep over Michkov, the guy hasn't played a game in the NHL lol Let him play 3yrs score a over a hundred goals and then we can all cry about how we missed out.
Not picking Michkov because of Cole Caufield, that's the first time I'm hearing of this. Here's a version I'd be more inclined to believe. Hughes answered a question in French during a media availability saying that they didn't pick Michkov because they had already spotted Demidov in 2023. At the time it was believed that Michkov would not be available for 3 years. So, Demidov should have been able to play in North America faster than Michkov.
I do with the best for Michkov and hope he has a good NHL career. I also cant help think the unfortunate death of his father 2 or 3 months before the draft played a significant part on why the Habs did not pick him. I cant imagine how the young fellow has dealt with this tragic event in his life. Also, fellow Habs fans must remember Nick Bobrov's father has worked for SKA for over 30 yrs and we know SKA for some reason kept loaning Michkov out to Sochi 2 yrs in a row instead of allowing him to showcase his skill for his own club?? Especially if its true that Demidov will be playing for SKA this upcoming season. There had to be a reason why SKA management and coaching staff did not want Michkov on the team????? Maybe we never will know....maybe the future will reveal
Michkov's father was murdered when he was trying to get his son's release from the KHL. In order to further develop his hockey career, he, along with his parents and brother, moved to Yaroslavl to join the youth program of Lokomotiv Yaroslavl in 2015. In April 2023, Michkov's father, Andrei, was reported missing; he was found dead two days later near Sochi. That's a reason not to draft him.
Idk if that was the reason. Apparently his father was involved in the Russian Mob
@@cmz5847everyone's father is involved in the mob at a certain level if they have potential to leave Russia
Or all the more reason to draft a player who's went through such challenges and STILL dominated every level of hockey he has played so far including against grown men for 2-3 years already.
I'll take him. Michkov is literally a generational talent. He's going to be 1st overall in ANY redraft in a year or two. Bedard should've been a 2nd overall. We already seen this at the World U18s where Michkov DOMINATED everyone. Including Bedard. 🤷♂️
Only reason you didn't draft him is because he had his choice to go where he wanted to sign.
@@TradingIsLife420 that may be the first coherent and positive comment I’ve seen you make on RUclips 🤣
Only time will tell how these guys will pan out.
Habs fan here. I wanted Michkov at the time and as of today i believe it would have been the better choice. You dont decide not to draft the likly best goal scorer because you have a similar player. Now if they said we felt a topend RHS defenseman was a better choice at this time that makes sense. But not drafting Michkov because Caufield is a very similar player is dumb. You have a top 6, 2 wings on each line, 2 PP units etc.
It was a team building decision. Top 4 RHD under control for 7-8 years over a highly skilled forward is a big deal. Yes, highly skilled forward are hard to find, but so are top 4 RHD who are under control and who you can develop. Biggest thing for Habs fans is that they’ve been yearning for a franchise-level player for decades. Doesn’t mean that Habs didn’t make a mistake, but it helps understand things better. At the end of the day, Habs fans have to move on and must have faith in Habs development team to develop Reinbacher properly.
Also, comparing Michkov and Demidov is stupid. Graviteh tried to do it but failed. So silly. Let them both become Russian stars
Habs fans are annoyed with the Michkov obsession misinterpretations and are happy with Reinbacher as he alrighty signed and scored in his first game with Laval.
Defense wins championships I am a Habs fan and happy with the Reinbacher pick
As much as this hurt to say it, but can we all agree Cole as much as he’s good! Mechcavi has a higher ceiling Cole can and would get 40 maybe 50 goal season but mechcavi will get them much easier!
Wow just buy the guide if you're going to make a video about it
Bobrov had eyes on Mitchkov and chose not to take him, took a big mobile, physical, TWD in Reinbacher which if he ends up top pairing or top 4 as a RD is worth more than Mitchkov will ever be
This comment will age like milk.
I'm so sick of this freakin' debate. Habs didn't pick Michkov because THEY DIDN'T LIKE HIM. It was never about the 3-years of contract, it wasn't about picking a RHD over a winger...they just felt he wasn't a good fit in what they are building. End of story.
he wants nothing to do with montreal same for any other canadien team and i dont blame him
That's why everyone is losing their 💩. And they haven't even seen him on the ice yet. 😂
Wait until Michkov wins the Calder. The Copium is going to be rampant in Montreal. 😂
I genuinely do not think he wins the Calder. For that many things need to happen. Player must be given top minutes.. which I do not see Torts handing them like candy over his experienced core.
Wait when Torts is not happy with Mtichkov. The Copium is going to be rampant in Philly ;)
Did Celebrini Retire?
win calder is not garantee you going to have great sucess in nhl even if it help
Makes no sense 😅
Peoples opinions dont matter lol, the kid was good long before we drafted him
Who is Michkov?
If i only got to pick one it woyld be Demidov.
Imagine a Caulfield, demidov, michkov line???
I see a line with no natural center and a lack of size
It would obviously be Demidov-Suzuki-Michkov foo
@@vmi4172Demi- Suzuki - Caulfield
@@vmi4172true but michkov wanted nothing to do with montreal and canadien team i dont blame him tho as a habs fan
Seems like a small line with no one to drive play.
hear they wont pick a plyer they havent seen.
Michkov was a Flyers fan and wasn't signing anywhere else.
And Demidov is nowhere NEAR the Elite ceiling Michkov has. Hasn't even played in the KHL yet.
And didn't absolutely DOMINATE Bedard and everyone else he came across in the World U18s.
If you think Demidov is going to be anywhere near as productive as Michkov your going to be disappointed.
I've watched them both. Demidov has nowhere near the IQ or sniping ability Michkov has.
So who made you the greatest talent scout of all time,🧐Michkov has issues and nothing worse than another Kovalev all the talent in the world but doesn't bother to show up for half of the seasons games sooo good luck tortsie you're gonna need it!
Yeah I trust the NHL scouts over some guy sitting on the couch...Demidov will be a star in this league
Pretty sure Habs management took the high road!…………..michkov is a dressing room disaster like pk was wont win with him
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@@TradingIsLife420 let me guess an illiterate philly fan 🤣🤣🤡
You never won without PK either
meh, Its water under the bridge.
ten bucks for tidbits ... pass
Habs passed on Quinn Hughes and michkov 🤣
and canucks are still cupless 😂
@@kylevoko-o9g won’t be cupless next year though
@@Canucksnate you better cause oof yall started a franchaise before flordia and they just won cup before your team ever could ever sniff semi finals since 2011 😬
@@kylevoko-o9g Buffalo also has zero cups and also Canucks are gonna win the cup next year
Meh, not a fan
Mitkov seems like a bad apple, don't know.
Michkov is almost a foot taller than Caufeild. You can’t compare them at all one will grow into a man’s body and the other will always just be a guy with child’s body. Caufeild will always be hurt and will have a very short career because he’s already shown he doesn’t have the skating ability or toughness to use his shot in 5 on 5. He’s a OT and pp specialist and that’s it.
This is satire right? Michkov is 2 inches taller than caufield lol. Caufield also played 82 games last season and scored 28 goals and 65 points as a 22/23 year old. Acting like that’s bad.
Such a braindead comment😂
You could've just said "I'm dumb" and leave it at that, you know...