It's not THAT dangerous as long as you're super careful and experienced with chemistry. Most of these chemicals aren't actively fuming out toxic gases like acids.
For those that are into cooking, that TCS is an immersion circulator. Also often used for culinary applications. That means there are also lots of alternative and possibly cheaper brands.
Quick tip for the peeps out there: if you use glass storage bottles it takes longer to get up to temperature, but then they maintain the temperature better. Plastic bottles are the opposite. Neither is better than the other, just personal preference
Quick tip that I learned that wasn't talked about in the video but can save your future rolls - use your finger to hold the rotating cover when pouring the chemicals out. It can become loose very easily during agitation and can open up when pouring your chemicals out and expose your film before it's fixed! I learned the hard way
That 1000 pack of rubber bands comes in handy...until I got a tank with a screw top I made sure to put it on my older one so the air inside doesn't ICBM launch the lid into the great beyond from thermal expansion (like the water heater on Myth busters.)
Great video! One thing I'd recommend, if you have a Fitbit or watch with luminous dial, take it off when your arms are in the changing bag. My Fitbit turned on while in my bag, and I'm pretty sure it fogged my film a bit.
Great vid Willem, Just one thing for the people out there. After every inversion cycle: tap your tank on the counter to prevent bubbles sticking on your film. I can tell from experience that its really shitty when you have bubble marks on your photos.
I bought your lessons this morning. They're fantastic. I shot 4 films in the last 3 months but I learnt by myself and this lessons taught me a lot more about film photography. I loved them, worth every single euro that I've spent. Greetings from Italy!
@@MakeSomethinghave you done direct comparisons? did you print under enlarger? How did you deduce that it's perfect? thermostatic systems are required for color development and printing
You’ve come a long way in terms of production value, subject matter and skill. Extremely happy to see you thriving and im looking forward to more content!
2018 Willem: I’m using a thermometer that isn’t waterproof cause it’s the only one they had left at the store 2021 Willem: Here’s a full temperature control system that is so badass. The first tutorial gave me the confidence to develop color at home and I’m beyond stoked to see a follow up because there’s always something new to learn!
Great video as always!!! As someone who develops my own film I have to say that it’s super fun, makes getting your photos back that much more rewarding, and saves you so much money! If you’re thinking about doing it yourself, GO FOR IT!!
4:55 "It's super important at this point to wear gloves and some kind of respirator, because this chemicals are not good for you" ah, I see. So that's DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO kind of tutorial :D
Thanks for uploading! At around 6:15 you mentioned checking the spools were the right way - but then you disassembled them and put them in the bag. And then proceeded to put the film on the reels inside the bag .. but how do you do this?? What's going on in there?
My apple watch gave me a notification for this and I thought I was stuck in a parallel universe for a second where the original edition of this was just coming out. Whew.
I used to develope B&W back in the nineties but never colour, but I'm using film again after 20 years of digital and high prices with no control over the developement process means this could be the way to go. Thanks a ton.!
Worth noting the temperature control system is just a re-badged "sous vide" machine. You may already have one, been wanting one for cooking, or you can pick them up cheap on amazon.
Can you compare at home versus lab - just the development and scanned at home, and developed at home, scanned at lab, and then both at the lab and both at home. Preferably same camera, same film, same scenes. I really really wanna see some "benchmarks" like is it even worth using lab services or you're better of on your own.
Love seeing more people doing home devs here. FWIW, I've been using the Kodak FlexiColor C41 chemistry in small-batch mixes and a cheap ebay Sous vide works as well as a red one.
Ahhh I finally need to try this out! So far I've always sent my film off to a lab, but I assume self developing my photos would give them a whole new level of special worth🤔🙌🏼
Should try and upgrade to steel reels and tanks! Patterson reels always crinkle my film especially in hotter and more humid places. Takes a little more practice to load the reels, but once you get it, it becomes 10x easier!
Nice video spent 40 years shooting with twin lens camera till my old age lol Always looked for apartments with no bathroom window Keep up with the good work Nice to see young ppl Still shoot film
One plus about that temp controller is you can sous vide some delicious food while you are developing! lol. I bought an Anova unit to do what you are doing in the video. Takes the headache out of temp control. Thanks for including that in your video.
Killer video as always Willem! I’ve been a little scared to develop color as I’ve only developed black and white, but this video inspired me to do it! :) might have to film it for my channel too! I’m already excited for the next upload!!
ECN-2 film can also be developed with C41 chemicals. You need to remove the protective backing first though. E-6 color positives (dia) can also be developed to color negatives if you’re feeling adventurous. C22 film is not compatible. The higher temperature of C41 destroys the emulsion. Also the chemicals are not compatible from what I know. But C22 can be processed to B/W film.
They all work exactly the same. Set temp and how long you want it to run. Only thing I’ve heard is that the TCS is coated to protect against chemicals in the water. I’ve never spilled chemicals in my water. As long as you’re careful you can save some money.
Good evening. I was wondering what type (names) of chemicals (developer, fixer, etc) I need to develop black & white film and color film. Where to buy them? Also, all the equipment I need to develop everything. Also, chemicals to develop the black & white paper? Thanks.
I learnt how to do this whole process at school before digital cameras existed, but I only ever did black and white film. I didn’t realise coloured film developing is the exact same process.
I'd recommend softly hitting the table with kaiser tank few times once you stop agitating to get rid of the small air bubbles that might be on the film itself.
I highly recommend using kodak photoflo instead of the given stabilizer, the difference was actually insane and one bottle of photoflo last years because you only need 5ml per liter or so of water
Oh also - the temp control system works exactly like a sous vide which is great for cooking! So if you like cooking too that will work as a two for one!
SO I was looking for a heater like yours and found that that you can use a sous vide immersion cooker for this. Looks like the exact same thing, and you can make a succulent meal with it if you choose. Also it's cheaper.
I just ordered the Cinestill Temperature control system after watching the video. Maintaining the correct temp for my chemicals is my biggest complaint with developing film at home. I’m looking forward to giving it a try.
I personally stopped using those bottles to store my c41 because c41 goes bad FAST when its mixed. I use these accordion air type bottles i can usually stretch it for about 6weeks as to 2-3. Granted to don’t shoot color as often as I’d like to so my chems go bad after awhile.
I can smell this video takes me back to 2001/2003 the darkroom in my high school photography class. Haven’t developed any film since but enjoyed the video!
I really want to do this myself too. But i'm still not sure if you can reuse the chemicals properly or should you do this each time? And if you should reuse, do you need to add extra time each roll? Thats the only part that confuses me. I see a lot of different opinions on that.
what about if you want to take the negative to a real photo? Like not digitalizing it, just "print" it on photographic paper. Is it possible to do at home with color film?
I remember going into the dark room of the Nordlys newspaper in Tromsø, Norway, where long-time journalist Svenn A. “Svenna” Nielsen showed me the ropes. He said that sometimes when he couldn't find gloves in time for the deadline, he'd simply mix the chems without them, using his bare hands. Afterwards he'd have to rinse his hands in a bath of base to neutralized the acids. What a legend! I heard he's now an ordained priest.
None of the instructions on my kits have asked for this. Blix/step2 can handle some developer/step1. Just don’t get any blix/step2 into your developer/step 1 tank accidentally. I’ve done hundreds of rolls this way and they all came out perfect.
I've watched your first video and have been considering trying this, wasn't expecting to get teased again. BTW, it would have been cool if you had taken some, for example, already processed film and demoed how the reels work outside the bag, it's something a lot of these tutorials leave out
How to you attempt to ventilate the space? Just a fan and open window? I’m curious if one of those days on air purifiers would help because I have a studio apartment and wanted to set up a massive walk in closet to do this but it doesn’t have a window and I’m worried my apartment is going to become super toxic.
Do you rinse after stabilizer when using photoflo or no? Is photoflo needed when using stabilizer and vice versa? Your first video was what gave me the confidence to start developing on my own!
I have the exact same developing kit by unicolor and it says to have heated water when mixing the chemicals. He doesn't appear to have heated water so I'm assuming maybe it doesn't matter?
Lovely video!! How many films can you develop with the same chemicals? Is it the same for all the 3 chemicals? How much time can you leave it in the container before it will stop working? (after mixing with the water) thank you very much
Im tapped in like I don't do this everyday!
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeesh
lmao preach brother. Great job Willem
You should make one too so we can see your process as well!
U guys are both the best. I love your content. I would love to start doing this in my country and try to influence people to go shoot film again!
Definition of “do as I say, not as I do”
"You should really be wearing gloves and a mask a respirator if possible" proceeds to use none of that 😂
also says that you shouldnt do it over wood, does it anyway
It's not THAT dangerous as long as you're super careful and experienced with chemistry. Most of these chemicals aren't actively fuming out toxic gases like acids.
man back in high school we did all of this in photography class and never touched a glove 😬
@@thepopculturejunky to be fair (if our classes are the same) the chemicals are diluted-at least that’s what my teacher said lol
Do as I say, not as I do.
For those that are into cooking, that TCS is an immersion circulator. Also often used for culinary applications. That means there are also lots of alternative and possibly cheaper brands.
I’ve done it with my Anova sous vide machine when getting my water to correct temp for b&w
Bro is sous viding his film 😂
@@123danman321 guga is proud
Like literally a thermometer
@@MultiSciGeek No
This was a very “do as I say, not as I do” tutorial 😂😂 I want to try this for myself sometime soon!!
"Be sure to wear gloves and a mask" pours chemicals with bare hands.
@@harlowfitzpatrick9031 "Don't do this on a wooden table" *does exacly that*
Don't let them know your next move.
Quick tip for the peeps out there: if you use glass storage bottles it takes longer to get up to temperature, but then they maintain the temperature better. Plastic bottles are the opposite. Neither is better than the other, just personal preference
I just use a water bath to keep the chemistry at the proper temps.
Quick tip that I learned that wasn't talked about in the video but can save your future rolls - use your finger to hold the rotating cover when pouring the chemicals out. It can become loose very easily during agitation and can open up when pouring your chemicals out and expose your film before it's fixed! I learned the hard way
That 1000 pack of rubber bands comes in handy...until I got a tank with a screw top I made sure to put it on my older one so the air inside doesn't ICBM launch the lid into the great beyond from thermal expansion (like the water heater on Myth busters.)
Ngl i used Willem's first version to learn everything I know about developing at home.
Crazy we have the same name and both take photos😳
Same, helped me so much in learning the process.
I do the final wash with heather distilled water from the tub heating the chemicals, otherwise I get water spots!
@@BenjoC8632 I use a squeegee or my fingers after the final rinse to keep the water spots off :)
Same tho
Great video! One thing I'd recommend, if you have a Fitbit or watch with luminous dial, take it off when your arms are in the changing bag. My Fitbit turned on while in my bag, and I'm pretty sure it fogged my film a bit.
Great vid Willem, Just one thing for the people out there. After every inversion cycle: tap your tank on the counter to prevent bubbles sticking on your film. I can tell from experience that its really shitty when you have bubble marks on your photos.
idk why I even clicked on this video so fast, I've been developing myself for a year now. Guess I was just excited for a new Willem upload lol
Same!!
I bought your lessons this morning. They're fantastic. I shot 4 films in the last 3 months but I learnt by myself and this lessons taught me a lot more about film photography. I loved them, worth every single euro that I've spent. Greetings from Italy!
Thank you very much! I’m so happy to hear that ❤️
Such perfect timing! I'm developing my first roll of color right now!!
I have a feeling I know what your recommendation is gonna be on the podcast next week :) I was also inspired to pick up film photography again
How did it go? I'd probably screw it up.
@@throwmilly It came out perfect! I've done several rolls since.
Yay!!
@@MakeSomethinghave you done direct comparisons? did you print under enlarger? How did you deduce that it's perfect? thermostatic systems are required for color development and printing
You’ve come a long way in terms of production value, subject matter and skill. Extremely happy to see you thriving and im looking forward to more content!
Thank you 🥰
2018 Willem: I’m using a thermometer that isn’t waterproof cause it’s the only one they had left at the store
2021 Willem: Here’s a full temperature control system that is so badass.
The first tutorial gave me the confidence to develop color at home and I’m beyond stoked to see a follow up because there’s always something new to learn!
The temperature control system is just a rebranded sous vide machine
@@marekholub8668 with a markup
So how did it go Owen?
Great video as always!!! As someone who develops my own film I have to say that it’s super fun, makes getting your photos back that much more rewarding, and saves you so much money! If you’re thinking about doing it yourself, GO FOR IT!!
A lot quicker as well.
Thanks for the video! Question for experienced film developers. How many times can I reuse the chemicals? And/or how long can I keep them for? Thanks
4:55
"It's super important at this point to wear gloves and some kind of respirator, because this chemicals are not good for you"
ah, I see. So that's DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO kind of tutorial :D
The difference between this video and your first one is NUTS! Crazy how much has changed! :)
Just when I developed my first roll of colour film, never done that before, I'm quite happy with the results! Great video as always ❤
Thanks for uploading! At around 6:15 you mentioned checking the spools were the right way - but then you disassembled them and put them in the bag. And then proceeded to put the film on the reels inside the bag .. but how do you do this?? What's going on in there?
My apple watch gave me a notification for this and I thought I was stuck in a parallel universe for a second where the original edition of this was just coming out. Whew.
I used to develope B&W back in the nineties but never colour, but I'm using film again after 20 years of digital and high prices with no control over the developement process means this could be the way to go. Thanks a ton.!
Is it the same process as B&W
Worth noting the temperature control system is just a re-badged "sous vide" machine. You may already have one, been wanting one for cooking, or you can pick them up cheap on amazon.
Can you compare at home versus lab - just the development and scanned at home, and developed at home, scanned at lab, and then both at the lab and both at home. Preferably same camera, same film, same scenes. I really really wanna see some "benchmarks" like is it even worth using lab services or you're better of on your own.
Could you 3d print the spools and tank to save some money (and get more use from a 3d printer if you already have one)
Love seeing more people doing home devs here. FWIW, I've been using the Kodak FlexiColor C41 chemistry in small-batch mixes and a cheap ebay Sous vide works as well as a red one.
can I also use the chaining bag to change into my swim suit at the beach Willem?
If you are under 1ft tall you should be good!
@@WillemVerb okay sweet thanks!
Last night I was watching the V70R build, and tonight I'm here by total coincidence.
What a small world.
I’m a digital Tog for 15 years. I’m breaking myself into film this year. I’m so ready and look forward for this
Which film camera are you using
Have done black and white mono a few times works well will move on too colour next 👍
Just followed your process and it worked great for three rolls I took on an Olympus half frame. Thanks for sharing this!
Ahhh I finally need to try this out! So far I've always sent my film off to a lab, but I assume self developing my photos would give them a whole new level of special worth🤔🙌🏼
Haha usually I just pray that they come out similar to the lab development. I personally just enjoy the process every once in a while.
Or use a sous-vide to keep the temp stable, probably cheaper, and does the same thing. Opinions?
wow when i read the notification i thought he reuploaded the old one😂
ps: ayyy portra boi comin’ thru with the regular uploading!!!!
for the cinestill heater you could also use a sous vide 2:11
Literally in the last week started thinking about moving from black and white developing to include colour 🙌🏻 Perfect timing 👌🏻
Should try and upgrade to steel reels and tanks! Patterson reels always crinkle my film especially in hotter and more humid places. Takes a little more practice to load the reels, but once you get it, it becomes 10x easier!
What temperature is the water you rinse it with?
And how many times can you reuse the developer, fixer, and stabilizer?
Glad to see an updated video of the most wonderful film photographer!
film sous vide i'm into it
Willem's developing game has gotten so fancy he's using a sous vide for temp control lol
Just started my first roll of film. So this is perfectly timed
Nice video spent 40 years shooting with twin lens camera till my old age lol
Always looked for apartments with no bathroom window
Keep up with the good work
Nice to see young ppl
Still shoot film
One plus about that temp controller is you can sous vide some delicious food while you are developing! lol. I bought an Anova unit to do what you are doing in the video. Takes the headache out of temp control. Thanks for including that in your video.
Killer video as always Willem! I’ve been a little scared to develop color as I’ve only developed black and white, but this video inspired me to do it! :) might have to film it for my channel too! I’m already excited for the next upload!!
ECN-2 film can also be developed with C41 chemicals. You need to remove the protective backing first though.
E-6 color positives (dia) can also be developed to color negatives if you’re feeling adventurous.
C22 film is not compatible. The higher temperature of C41 destroys the emulsion. Also the chemicals are not compatible from what I know. But C22 can be processed to B/W film.
Any advantage to using the CineStill TCS over a regular sous vide?
They all work exactly the same. Set temp and how long you want it to run. Only thing I’ve heard is that the TCS is coated to protect against chemicals in the water. I’ve never spilled chemicals in my water. As long as you’re careful you can save some money.
i’ve been searching forever to find a concise video on how to develop film, thank you so much!
Now we only need the black and white developing tuorial! Love how Willem explains it
Good evening. I was wondering what type (names) of chemicals (developer, fixer, etc) I need to develop black & white film and color film. Where to buy them? Also, all the equipment I need to develop everything. Also, chemicals to develop the black & white paper? Thanks.
I learnt how to do this whole process at school before digital cameras existed, but I only ever did black and white film. I didn’t realise coloured film developing is the exact same process.
uploaded a video the same day as Willem, I feel the power in my hands now
I'd recommend softly hitting the table with kaiser tank few times once you stop agitating to get rid of the small air bubbles that might be on the film itself.
Always a good day when Willem uploads
What a new film development process! It's become my favorite video.
love how you can catch subtle franticness at the cuts
I highly recommend using kodak photoflo instead of the given stabilizer, the difference was actually insane and one bottle of photoflo last years because you only need 5ml per liter or so of water
C-41 final rinse has a funigcide in it along with a wetting agent.
Hi just wondering, can you reuse the chemicals in the bottles to develop future films? And if yes, how many times can you reuse the chemicals?
You made this feel simple.
I'm now off to buying the equipment! Thanks Willem!
and the first frame is a testarossa ✨ aiight im subbed! question though: 3.5min for the stabilizer too?
what method do you recommend for digitalizing it afterwards?
I used that og video as a guide for a long time, super hype to see a sequel!
You have a good eye for nice pictures. I was very impressed with your final product!
When someone finds out I develop my own film I tell them that my darkroom looks like a little basement meth lab.
how do you print those films? what camera do you recommend for a beginner?
Oh also - the temp control system works exactly like a sous vide which is great for cooking! So if you like cooking too that will work as a two for one!
SO I was looking for a heater like yours and found that that you can use a sous vide immersion cooker for this. Looks like the exact same thing, and you can make a succulent meal with it if you choose. Also it's cheaper.
How many times can you reuse the chemicals? I'm looking to do home developing and wondering about the economics of it. Thanks.
I recommend after agitating tapping the tank a little against the counter to knock out air bubbles
Can you save and keep reusing the chemicals or are they one and done? If so how long can you keep using them for
I just ordered the Cinestill Temperature control system after watching the video. Maintaining the correct temp for my chemicals is my biggest complaint with developing film at home. I’m looking forward to giving it a try.
I just used an old tropical fish tank heater but that was waaaay before Cine Stills. It was pretty good.
I personally stopped using those bottles to store my c41 because c41 goes bad FAST when its mixed. I use these accordion air type bottles i can usually stretch it for about 6weeks as to 2-3. Granted to don’t shoot color as often as I’d like to so my chems go bad after awhile.
So ... There's no difference between that tank temp regulator and a sous vide, right? Temp regulation is temp regulation. Can you share ideal temps?
Hey! thanks for the great tutorial. How long would you do it if you chemically were pushing 1 stop or pulling one stop?
Noob question; can you use the same liquids for Color and Black/white film? Or is there different kinds?
I can smell this video takes me back to 2001/2003 the darkroom in my high school photography class. Haven’t developed any film since but enjoyed the video!
I really want to do this myself too. But i'm still not sure if you can reuse the chemicals properly or should you do this each time? And if you should reuse, do you need to add extra time each roll? Thats the only part that confuses me. I see a lot of different opinions on that.
this is a great video :) how many times can the chemicals be used on rolls of film? as you are refilling the bottles and storing it.
Great video. Is it also possible to do this with Super-8 film?
I like how you did zero of the suggested instructions you mentioned on the second developer 5:20
Do as I say, not as I do
Also I did wear a mask off camera when pouring out the powders and the room is already very well ventilated because it also is a darkroom
@@WillemVerb I will keep this in mind
Thank you for the tutorial 💙 I want to ask how many time can you reuse the 3 solutions?
Can you use the mixed chemicals after they are already mixed without a respirator?
How about a sous vide cooker as a replacement to the TCS ?
Always a good day when I get a new
V-beeks vid
what about if you want to take the negative to a real photo? Like not digitalizing it, just "print" it on photographic paper. Is it possible to do at home with color film?
I remember going into the dark room of the Nordlys newspaper in Tromsø, Norway, where long-time journalist Svenn A. “Svenna” Nielsen showed me the ropes. He said that sometimes when he couldn't find gloves in time for the deadline, he'd simply mix the chems without them, using his bare hands. Afterwards he'd have to rinse his hands in a bath of base to neutralized the acids. What a legend! I heard he's now an ordained priest.
Shouldn't you rinse the tank between chemicals 1 and 2?
None of the instructions on my kits have asked for this. Blix/step2 can handle some developer/step1. Just don’t get any blix/step2 into your developer/step 1 tank accidentally. I’ve done hundreds of rolls this way and they all came out perfect.
@@DaveMontejano you're right! That makes a lot of sense 😊 thank you!!
I said the same thing all last year about what my neighbors thought I was doing between 12 and 2am. Cooking dope lmao
I have 5 rolls of Portra 160 and a newly acquired RB67 pro waiting to do this.
I've watched your first video and have been considering trying this, wasn't expecting to get teased again.
BTW, it would have been cool if you had taken some, for example, already processed film and demoed how the reels work outside the bag, it's something a lot of these tutorials leave out
Does any sous vide work? Or does it have to be a photography immersion one?
Good grief ! Unicolor ; I was using that in the seventies to home process my colour film and trannies. Great to hear that it is still around !!
I have got so many 135 films that need to be done. I will definitely try this out.
What did you do after you dry it
How to you attempt to ventilate the space? Just a fan and open window? I’m curious if one of those days on air purifiers would help because I have a studio apartment and wanted to set up a massive walk in closet to do this but it doesn’t have a window and I’m worried my apartment is going to become super toxic.
Do you rinse after stabilizer when using photoflo or no? Is photoflo needed when using stabilizer and vice versa? Your first video was what gave me the confidence to start developing on my own!
“Now the exciting part, it’s time to see if it worked.” I love your cheerful, low key approach to everything. Always enjoying your videos! ✌️
Thank you Bob!
I have the exact same developing kit by unicolor and it says to have heated water when mixing the chemicals. He doesn't appear to have heated water so I'm assuming maybe it doesn't matter?
Lovely video!!
How many films can you develop with the same chemicals?
Is it the same for all the 3 chemicals?
How much time can you leave it in the container before it will stop working? (after mixing with the water)
thank you very much