A Guide for Poor Film Photographers
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- Опубликовано: 15 июн 2023
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Film prices have been increasing ever since the popularity of the analog photography space has started to take off. Kodak and Fujifilm have quickly increased the prices of their 35mm Film and 120 medium format Film offerings like Kodak Portra 400 and 800, Ektachrome, Ektar 100, Kodak Gold, Kodak Color Plus, Fujifilm C200, Fujifilm Pro 400H. Cinestill have continued to produce new and interesting consumer film stocks like Cinestill 800T, Cinestill 50D and Cinestill 400D. But, just like Kodak and Fujifilm, they are burdened by supply chain issues and they cannot meet the increased demand for color negative film. The increased demand can in-part be attributed to popular film photographers like Willem Verbeeck, Graindays, Joe Greer etc., which also popularized older cameras again like the Leica M6, Mamiya RB/RZ67, Mamiya 7, Pentax 67, Hasselblad X-Pan, Contax T2, and Canon AE-1. Unfortunately for film photographers, analog photography is getting more and more expensive and people need to resort to more budget friendly options like Ilford or Fomapan black and white film stocks. In this video I talk about the cheapest possible way to shoot film by utilizing bulk loaders, huge film canisters and some AI photography tools. This is a fun take on how you can get and use 35mm film effectively for cheap.
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"you enjoy photography so your time's worth nothing"
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No! For B&W development get yourself: Rodinal, Adonal, or Foma's own Fomadon R09 developers. You'll get 100ml. of Adonal or 250ml if you pick Fomadon R09. They will last you forever. If you're using a Paterson tank, for a single roll to develop you'll need around 300ml solution. You can go with 1+50 (6 ml of developer + 300 ml of water @ 21c temperature) dilution and around ~8min. development time or go with a stand development 1+100 dilution (3ml of developer + 300ml of water) for ~60 min. development time. I have a small 100 ml bottle of Adonal I bought 4 years ago, developed a lot of rolls, and still have more than half of the bottle left. Its cheap so you can experiment with dilutions like 1+25 or smth.
If your Adonal turns brown, not a problem. If your Adonal starts to crystallize and shaking it makes tinkling sound, time to get a new bottle.
That being said, b&w developer is pretty cheap and if you don't like sharpening the grain like Adonal does, my 5L of Kodak D76 in powder form cost me 16€ last year. Especially if you shoot enough because you like cheap film, that's not that much worse. Of course I myself quit film photography shortly after mixing all 5 liters so now I can find out whether the solution survived last summer... and fall... and winter. Ahem. I should probably go back to Adonal.
Or you can just get some reagents and Paracetamol, and mix yourself some "Parodinal". I used that mixture for several years, works fine. Except for stand development, it actually sux. Bromide drag is so bad that I started to agitate it no more then every 10min.
I use Fomapan 200 and develop with Rodinal.
I print the best in my windowless bathroom darkroom on my Gnome condenser enlarger through Schneider Componon S enlarging lens.
I use Ilford multigrade paper.
I have been doing this since the 1960s when I was a hippie, now I guess I'm called a hipster.
Oh yes and I play Vinyl, use a fountain pen and wear a mechanical watch.
I am on trend with ccd sensor digital cameras like my Nikon D40x and my old 2005 Ricoh GR digital 8 megapixel camera. Peace brothers
This made me laugh.
The hipster final boss
😂😂😂 had a lot of fun watching this!!
Haha glad you enjoyed it
Great video - You could buy all the equipment (Tank, Changing bag, extension tubes, etc) for roughly the same as you already paid for the film + monobath, so the price per image is still only 0.20 moneys, and will decrease the more you use it!
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Actually, I did do this. The lab. My dad already had the gear. Even the print enlarger. Although I used my Nikon slide / film scan.
Now I need to try that Ai thingy. It looks fun
Thank you for your continued support man, I super appreciate it 🙌🥰 Definitely give it a try!
I once bought 40 expired disposable cameras. I paid for them, if I remember correctly 10eur. Took the film canisters out of them, they where 400iso 12 exposures C41. I use them as iso 100-200, and develop in diy B&W developer. It doesn't get any cheaper than this.
In the 1970's Freestyle Sales Co. was my non-Kodak film supplier. The "Classic European black-and-white film" turned out to be Ilford HP3 and FP3. "East European black-and-white film" was ORWO, which worked just fine with D-76 1:1 for every film. I did try Agfa Rodinal, since ORWO films were said to be a better match. Bulk 135 film was advertised as "a Penny a frame" when Kodak was the Rochester Giant. These days, "do it yourself" still saves money and "electronic scanning" is an added thing that I could only dream about back then.;)
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This is a really fun video, well done!
Fantastic - very informative - very humorous!!!
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Thank you so much! 🥰
Bold of you to assume I can afford to use lightroom
I love the sense of humor used for this video.
Good job very entertaining love the video!
Thank you!
Omg.. in Australia the most expensive country on earth, a roll of cheap 1shot film is $20 Kodak portra is around $50 and around $35 to get them scanned.
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That was awesome
Thank you!!!
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lustig !!! I was buying baulk in the 70s as a poor student. Now I old and I still poor lol, I sitting on a ton of old Kodak film and I got the same A1 not from my late mom. I did get a nice flatbed scanner, so i got that. I have Sony digital but I have been using the flatbed. Love the idea of cloericzed B/W film.
Thanks for watching! I'm also still sitting on a bunch of kodak film, from two years ago before the prices doubled...
Is the xc35 f2 better than the viltrox 33 mm f1.4 and the Sigma 30mm f1.4
Brilliant, amusing and very useful
Thank you!!!
You had me dying at work 😂 great video brother!
Thank you!!!!
if you wanted some sort of color without using ai you could use either bichrome or trichrome photography to get color (or pseudo-color in the case of bichrome) photographs, only problem is that it cuts the amount of photos you can take down to either a third or a half, all you need is a red green and blue filter for trichrome, or for bichrome, a red and cyan, orange and teal or yellow and teal/blue or, you could also use just a red filter and unfiltered as well. hope this helps, or at least doesnt hinder! :-)
Really enjoyed watching this lol. Well done.
Best video I’ve seen in a while. Funny. A bit on point but not too much 😂
There's another way to get cheap. If you're some point'n'shoot/street photographer and you don't need creamy boheh from some legendary vintage lens - go to 110 system for ex. Pentax 110 Super od Minolta 110 SLR. You can cut 120 roll film into 4 strips and load to 110 cardrige so you've get ~100 frames/1 medium format roll. You can shoot any type of film (also color) ~4x cheaper per frame than 35mm. MAKE 110 GREAT AGAIN! :P
Hahaha that actually sounds super cool, didn't know that was possible!
I really enjoyed this video, soo funny!😅
Thank you so much for watching 😁
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85 bucks for the film loader, 10 bucks for 5 empty rolls, about 45 bucks for a film development starter pack plus whatever the scanning solution costs. but note that all of these costs will shrink comparatively the more you do it.
Dude, This video has forced me to subscribe!🤣 It would be good if you did one on how to do the chemical thing!
thanks man you made my day)))
Thank you
This guys is hilarious! Love the video and great Idea!
Where do o get the film in bulk?
How do you call that thingy that makes rotate the tripod so you can put the camera looking down for pictures?
A copy stand
Where are you getting develop + scans for 12 bucks? It's always like 30 per roll for me.
Funny thing is I got into film photography because I needed a cheap hobby. I get my Kodak Gold at the drug store for under $10, so it's like $20-$25 all in. My main hobby is firearms, with some of them costing around $2.50 a shot. Typically spending ~$300 per range trip, being able to take pictures for under $1.00 each is fantastic- and that's not even getting into the guns vs camera cost comparison. And dont get me started on night vision- those make Leicas look cheap.
It's an investment but I like the idea. What software or code do you use for the colorisation?
Hey, any idea about this?
Good video 👍👍
Brilliant. Df96 is delicious.
Very clever! I almost subscribed.....😁👍
what ai tool r u using?
Fomapan is manufactured in the Czech Republic, my homeland👍🤟
Wo lässt du deine Filme entwickeln?
I have had a much-loved Mju-II for the last 20 years, a Trip for 10 years and a Lubitel and I never use them because it’s too expensive and too complicated. No local labs any more. I have to do it all by post. Digital is better, overall, though it pains me to say it.
I don't have a laptop to convert scans, whats the next cheapest alternative
What tripod do you use?
I bet it's a three legged one
this guys a legend
Sorry we were not privileged!
To know how to use one of those apparatuses on film where you didn't had a screen, but you had to use your eye, you had to have a sense of prediction to be able to capture the moment. Ugh, and you could not adjust the light so easily.
I'm a sniper, whoop whoop.
Bulk film...YES...monobath developer...YES...scan with digital camera...YES...colorise with Ai...YES......orgasmic...
Hahahaha 🙏😂
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for the love and longevity of your film take-up sprocket. Do not bulk load... lol 😅
Are you interested in the myth of the Fuji Film Gx680 digital back?
It was a digital image sensor that you could insert into the back of the Gx680 instead of a 120mm film, and in theory still shoot the camera setup digitally. This was only released in Japan in 2004, but it's nowhere to be found in second hand markets.
I wish you could investigate or explore this myth.
There are a bunch of interesting contraptions like these from the era where film transitioned to digital. Leica did something similar with the R8 by offering a digital back, I would love to try one of those but they are very expensive on the used market unfortunately...
There was a kickstarter for something similar recently, I forgot the name of it but it's probably easy to find it. Ok, I googled, it's called I'm Back Film. But it's for 35mm.
I bought a 122m Roll of Vision 3 500t for 120€ (bringing me to about 0.05€ per Image) 🗿
Like the most expencive thing in my setup is my vuescan license 😭 ... And my 72 cameras 📷
Haha yeah it's the steadily growing camera collection that gets you 😂
I have achieved hipster enlightenment.
I feel inspired
sorry, now you're gonna have to go out and shoot.
help i tried this and now there are 6 extra 0's on the end of the balance in my bank account
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"just use your digital camera to scan the film, if you don't have one, sucks for you"
:(
"But I respect you for going full hipster"
:D
Bravo 😂👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
🥰🙏
I could buy ColorPlus and Afgavista for 2$ here on my country.
Since war started between Ukraine and Russia, prices went up to 12$
WHAT THE FU
100 feet of HP5, Diafine. Get the best, forget the rest.
I die inside every time i show my pictures. "I look horrible! It's not the picture though, it's just me". What do you mean you look horrible? You're fucking goregeous!
But when showing film pictures i die inside at 50x speed.
Shot a roll of ultramax, got 30 good pictures out of 36. My biggest "film success" and my biggest photography technical achievement got quickly turned off by a not so nice "Ew i look horrible" aka "Don't dare showing this to anybody". Never forget guys, a good rope will always be quicker and cheaper than photography.
Shooting directly on film is still cheaper than shooting in digital then getting celluloid duplicates made.
You beat capitalism 😂
From the hotdog metric people good video 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thank you 😂😂❤️
why not just buy a digicam that shoots unlimited film photos?
Vinyl has no plural! :)
That was pretty funny
200 hot dog for you American 😂😂😂legendary
Idk where tf you get your stuff from, but I get film, developing, scanning for 17 EUR lmao
cute
Thank you for reminding the americans not to wash down their 200 hotdogs with developer!!
how in the name of god did i get here.
Try FOMA developing chems, you'll save some more cents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
actually moving to Czech rep as a hipster could make you better off actually (holy prakticas!)
I get 1 roll every 2 monthes
I still forget you don't have a million subscribers
slowly making my way there ;)
Erst nicht ordentlich recherchieren, einen Kodak Gold 200 gibt es bei DM für ca 7,50 €. Danach die Leute anbetteln. Irgendwann hab ich nicht mehr zugehört.
**puts on fedora** Why yes for the electricity on a battery of my T2i digital camera... Which lets me get 350 photos per battery charge, which considering the amount of photos I've taken which are 10,500 I've spent only about 8 cents in electricity, and considering you spent 2,100 dollars on film including the charge of the digital camera to take the film photos... Hmmmmm.... **Has troll face**
Fair enough 😂 I was too lazy to actually calculate it
Doesn’t own a digital camera…or a scanner…or a computer…yup real hipster over here 😅😢
nooooo dont do ai for colour do trichromeeesss and print stuff braaah
worst kind of person. If you enjoy film, you'll pay, simple as that. I also shoot and Olympus Trip 35 with a 58 year old light meter, photos come out fine....
Lol so true
At this point why are you even shooting film? Film is pure. And by putting it under ai, you take away that purity. These aren't photos anymore. These are just bad digital images.
You should slow down your pace. Not all of us have ADHD.
I might have adhd
for the love of god please don't drink it 😂🤣🤣
Stop whining and take out a massive credit loan to buy a digital camera. A digital camera that'll be worthless in five years time when your done paying off the loan and interest.
The best way to lose money is to buy an expensive digital camera.
If you use AI, you should just shoot digital…
This video is obviously meant as a joke 😅
@@futc.photographya joke or not, you still get the film shooting experience, dynamic range and grain. What we see as a joke today could become deadly serious soon. Imagine an AI tool which emulates different color emulsions (Hi, Kodachrome!) on any bnw film image. Sure, you lose some important qualities of color film stock, but at least you don’t lose all of them. Also, how is AI conversion any different from scanning with Silverfast film preset instead of hand printing in the darkroom? 🙃
Btw. I love what you do, keep going!
Hope you're not a communist.
The 1960s just called, and it wants its well-educated world-view back
Another video repeating the same BS the other 2000 before already did.
Joint the current century in order to solve your problems - FUTC.
I love film as much as the next guy - quite seriously. But film is now totally impractical, and impossibly expensive unless you're a ka-jillionaire.
As for vinyl ... oh, brother. Which analogue millennium do you inhabit?
Vinyl is FUN - that's all. Well, also nostalgic. But who likes ticks and pops? Plus the occasional scratch which WILL occur, almost guaranteed, and the inability to listen to Beethoven's 9th symphony without needing to take one disc off the platter and install the next one? Hmm .. and storage space? After a while, it becomes problematic. And besides ...
Who loves turntable rumble, plus pre and post groove echo?
A CD player solves all of this ... and a Jukebox style CD player is even better, and MUCH less expensive than a premium quality turntable.