I Tested the NEW Kodak Gold in Medium Format

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  • Опубликовано: 27 дек 2024

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  • @WillemVerb
    @WillemVerb  2 года назад +53

    For anyone asking for a link to purchase Gold in 120, you can pre-order it here! partner.shopmoment.com/dorNnW

    • @jackwilson9239
      @jackwilson9239 2 года назад

      Hey Willem are all these shots scans of negs or are any from hand prints?

  • @grainydaysss
    @grainydaysss 2 года назад +273

    I blacked out at the shot at 10:33 and had to go lay down. SO GOOD

    • @Racker411
      @Racker411 2 года назад +8

      daddy

    • @eccojammed
      @eccojammed 2 года назад +4

      Agreed. My face when willem stood still to make it: ????? My face when the picture came up.... :O :O :O

  • @vuhlandes
    @vuhlandes 2 года назад +90

    Letsss goo been waiting on this. LOVED IT

  • @Definitely_not_Andrew_Yoshiaki
    @Definitely_not_Andrew_Yoshiaki 2 года назад +153

    The Instagram announcement by Kodak stunned me, and now a new vid by the master himself on this film😭✨ what a great day

  • @thehealthpotions
    @thehealthpotions 2 года назад +31

    LETS KEEP FILM ALIVE!!!

  • @patrickjclarke
    @patrickjclarke 2 года назад +144

    Well, technically Willem, 120 has the same dynamic range as 35mm, size of film doesn't affect dynamic range, emulsion does...BUT it should have more tonal range since it's a bigger negative. No matter what, it's good to see it back in 120!!!

    • @0ooTheMAXXoo0
      @0ooTheMAXXoo0 2 года назад +3

      It is safe to say it will seem like higher dynamic range since you are collecting more light per final print size or image size. More info will show in brightest and darkest areas in total...

    • @patrickjclarke
      @patrickjclarke 2 года назад +33

      @@0ooTheMAXXoo0 No, that's still tonal range. The bigger the light capturing area, the more opportunity to spread the tones. It's still the same amount of dynamic range as that's how bright or dark any specific area can be. The two are often confused, but tonal range in medium format film (even 645) is still one of the advantages it has over most digital sensors, even the GFX series.

    • @prntm926
      @prntm926 2 года назад +1

      Yes, the dynamic range is the same. But if the iso is the same, then the tonal range would also be the same.
      Bigger negative only gives more detail.

    • @patrickjclarke
      @patrickjclarke 2 года назад +2

      @@prntm926 I think we are saying the same thing. A bigger neg increases the amount of tonal steps it can record, and that gives more detail, but it technically would have the ability to render those steps across more silver grains giving it more tonal range. Now if the film has low dynamic range, having a bigger negative doesn’t necessarily give you the same benefit.
      It’s one of the reasons I loved Polaroid Type 55.

    • @prntm926
      @prntm926 2 года назад

      @@patrickjclarke 120mm have more silver grain that is correct, but the density of the grain is the same as in 35mm (if both 200iso). So bigger negative wont give more tonal range.
      Just try and compare prints between kodak gold 35mm and 120mm both shot on mamiya rz, the tonal range would be the same if both films are the same sensitivity, no matter the size.

  • @willysheepskin
    @willysheepskin 2 года назад +58

    NEW FILM WHOOP! So keen on increased saturation, I hope it's always in stock hahaha!
    Would be very curious to see some darkroom results sometime as well, you got lovely shots in this video that would print well hint hint ;)

    • @WillemVerb
      @WillemVerb  2 года назад +6

      Hahah I thought about doing it in this video but ran out of time. Will definitely give it a shot next time I print though!

    • @extremelydave
      @extremelydave 2 года назад +1

      Willem's shots on this video are some of the best I have seen from him... having great film obviously does not hurt...

    • @juiceboyxd9310
      @juiceboyxd9310 2 года назад +1

      Can't wait to see you try this film, Willy.

  • @GS-vb3zn
    @GS-vb3zn 2 года назад +107

    Kodak Gold 120 is a good sign, I can agree to that. More film choices is always a good thing. However, having one major supplier of film on the planet is not a good thing, no matter how many new products they bring to market.
    We need an alternative to Kodak’s dominance. Kodak film sales have been going up roughly 20% a year for the past five years. Yay, that’s a good thing for film enthusiasts. But faced with increasing demand Kodak has chosen to do something that I feel is abhorrent. Kodak has said it needs to increase production, okay, that’s a given, but they chose to fund that by dramatically increasing the cost of a roll of film instead of the traditional method of using a commercial lender to raise the capital necessary to do this. They feel they can do this on the backs of their customers because they are the only game in town. Where else are we going to go?
    I hope some company rises up to challenge Kodak. I would love to see Fujifilm back in the game. I don’t like being at the mercy of one supplier for anything.

    • @brentsmith9411
      @brentsmith9411 2 года назад +22

      Agreed. We're all paying the cost for film becoming more popular, and it doesn't have to be that way. Rather than releasing Gold I would have much preferred they focused that effort into making Portra (somewhat) affordable again. I'm glad film is having its renaissance, but as someone who has been shooting it for 20 years now I'm shooting way less because of this increased demand.
      Lomography and Cinestill are cool, but instead of these specialty stocks what I need more than anything is a professional stock that can compete specifically with Portra. I hope someone comes along to rival Kodak's dominance in this specific area, but I'm not holding my breath for it.

    • @GregoryVeizades
      @GregoryVeizades 2 года назад +2

      @@brentsmith9411 did you see Cinestill's announcement today?

    • @krib5810
      @krib5810 2 года назад +5

      @@GregoryVeizades well its probably made by Kodak too like every other CS colour film, my guess vision3 250D

    • @Xenonic2
      @Xenonic2 2 года назад +3

      @@brentsmith9411 honestly I would love to buy more Portra but I’m just slowly cycling through whatever film I have before I lay a hand on them. I’ve been buying Kodak Vision 3 rolls which are a couple bucks cheaper and produce, arguably, the same if not better results.

    • @coastalartistlivingonislan8395
      @coastalartistlivingonislan8395 2 года назад +1

      Well, their is BW from Ilford as an option.

  • @Lauren_C
    @Lauren_C 2 года назад +99

    Those results are impressive, both on the photographer side, and from a technical standpoint. This film holds up impressively well against modern digital. Perhaps Kodak should focus on 120 format, and put some R&D there? Maybe get some inexpensive bodies launched as well?

    • @WillemVerb
      @WillemVerb  2 года назад +29

      Haha we can dream

    • @jacopoabbruscato9271
      @jacopoabbruscato9271 2 года назад +7

      New bodies good enough to give 120 justice will never be inexpensive

    • @pilsplease7561
      @pilsplease7561 2 года назад +3

      @@jacopoabbruscato9271 The GW690 is like the greatest 120 camera ever made, the lens on that thing is sharp as a tack, like holy crap, shooting Ektachrome in the one I had was one of the most beautiful things ive seen on film, Same applies to the rolls of Fuji Pro 400 I shot before they discontinued it those were stunning I shot a beach and you can count the grains of sand on the fucking beach that lens is so sharp that digital couldn't possibly compete because the film had like no grain was literally sharp as a goddamn tack.

    • @RM.TokyoPhotographer
      @RM.TokyoPhotographer 2 года назад

      im trying to convince Fujifilm to make a new film camera....fingers crossed.....they destoryed the medium format digital (from Phase One/Hasselblad expensive Junk) so hopefully they can do it again...Im convinced that if Fujifilm makes a mediumformat Rangefinder type of film camera (like the Mamiya 7 not pentaprism) Utilizing the outer body of the GFX 50R around 1500$~2000$ thats repairable and unlike their GW series of fixed lenses (making it a interchangable lense) they would definitely sell like HOTCAKES.....#Fujifilm #富士フィルム #ビジネスチャンス

    • @pilsplease7561
      @pilsplease7561 2 года назад +1

      @@RM.TokyoPhotographer I don't mind the GW690 being fixed lens, I had one with a new shutter and I put 4 rolls through it and that was the best camera I ever used in my life.

  • @DavidMota
    @DavidMota 2 года назад +32

    would love to see a Palm Springs vid with this film stock. incredible colors and quality. Willem does it again

    • @Jvega001
      @Jvega001 2 года назад

      That’s a good spot!

  • @GarryTan
    @GarryTan 2 года назад +4

    Hey this is random but I started doing RUclips years ago because I was really into film photography and watching you I realized RUclips was such a powerful medium and it made me want to figure out how to do it too. So thank you.

  • @ReimannPembroke
    @ReimannPembroke 2 года назад +19

    The colors of this film look really great! After today’s film announcements by Kodak and CineStill, it seems like the world of film photography is in a better place than we thought

    • @mrnavarropablo
      @mrnavarropablo 2 года назад +3

      CineStill is nonetheless just rebranded Kodak 250D Cinem Film. It'd be better if there was another producer of color film that did not depend on the Kodak factory. But hey, I'll take whatever we get any day!

    • @tallaganda83
      @tallaganda83 2 года назад +3

      Now someone just needs to make some new decent medium format cameras that aren’t 30 years old and cost 5 grand.

    • @ReimannPembroke
      @ReimannPembroke 2 года назад

      @@tallaganda83 I second that

  • @SISSI_LU
    @SISSI_LU 2 года назад +2

    6:16 the subtle shades to Fuji hahahaha 😅🎞

  • @BadFlashes
    @BadFlashes 2 года назад +1

    @12:51 Magic... pure and simple MAGIC ... I might cry

  • @theodore.rollet
    @theodore.rollet 2 года назад +1

    Nobody’s gonna talk about the mind blowing cinematography? The part in the dunes is GORGEOUS, this is national geographic level.

  • @CrimsonCrime2234
    @CrimsonCrime2234 2 года назад +3

    These results blow my mind! I love Kodak gold in 35mm, and I think many of my family photos were taken with Kodak gold. I really hope Kodak can produce Kodak gold in medium format

  • @RaZuesR12
    @RaZuesR12 2 года назад +5

    I shot a couple rolls of 120 Gold 100 GPW from 1998 some years ago and loved the results (very 90's vibes!). At the time I wished I kodak would release it back in 120, I guess my dream came true!

  • @olistiktok
    @olistiktok 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the review, what is the name of the motion film filter/effect you used at 1:22-1:32 ? (or what film if that's actual motion film) ? Thank you

  • @MichaelZieschang
    @MichaelZieschang 2 года назад +4

    That makes my week. No more rolling Kodak Gold into 120 backing paper to shoot it in medium format cameras.

  • @s0nglyr1cs
    @s0nglyr1cs 2 года назад +5

    Been shooting Gold in 35mm for a while as the prices have hiked. Really excited to try it in 120

  • @idkwtdwyou
    @idkwtdwyou 2 года назад +10

    hey Willem, try the Kodak M35, it's a cheap plastic disposable camera, I want to see if it's good for beginners

    • @handwriting8804
      @handwriting8804 2 года назад +3

      Its not. If you're starting out you should get a manual camera. The pentax spotmatic is a great choice.

    • @Nobody-Nowhere
      @Nobody-Nowhere 2 года назад +8

      Its 2022, disposable cameras are not exactly a thing any sensible adult should even consider.

    • @beansface1643
      @beansface1643 2 года назад

      Just get a disposable or a p&s

    • @ryanwilson5782
      @ryanwilson5782 2 года назад +1

      I've never really tried it, but I've heard decent thing about the Ilford Sprite 35-II. Basic and affordable point and shoot style camera, plus it's reloadable. If you want to get into the absolute raw basics of film, maybe try that, but if you want to learn more about the specifics of film, then I might try picking up a used SLR. I'm sure someone who knows more will comment here and let you know of some good choices. I have a Minolta XG-A from the late 80s/early 90s that I absolutely adore

    • @byu2657
      @byu2657 2 года назад +2

      M35 is not disposable

  • @velyvely6479
    @velyvely6479 2 года назад +2

    my first ever camera at 5 years old came with this film! i still have a pack unused from the 90's! i loved the desert shots so much! and the use of the flash with the sunset in the back!

  • @madacenyc
    @madacenyc 2 года назад

    i like the pixel peeping, panning up or across the picture type of shots at 12:55

  • @ElBoys
    @ElBoys Год назад

    I will say, one of my favorite travel moments was seeing the Sunrise on the Sand Dunes in Death Valley so seeing that part of the video brought back those memories!

  • @patrickrostker6693
    @patrickrostker6693 2 года назад

    Awesome news! Kodak is alive baby! Wonderful shots, Lone Pine is so beautiful. Sand dunes are definetly on my wish list to photograph. Well done!!

  • @likeanelephant9314
    @likeanelephant9314 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for sharing such a great news!
    I’ve just got a rolleicord last month, so excited. I really loved your night motel photos 😊!

  • @rebeccasuur
    @rebeccasuur 2 года назад

    I’m so happy…I love Kodak Gold. Loved the mellow music while the sunrise was going on. And the running was absolutely worth it. Loving your pictures.

  • @shalini6838
    @shalini6838 2 года назад

    Omg yessssss I was waiting for your video about the new film!!

  • @christiangordon721
    @christiangordon721 2 года назад +2

    Willem thank you for always sharing the thoughts that come to mind when you’re making a photo! I’ve been following your work since 2018 and honestly you’ve had such an impact on my own work, looking forward to new videos!

  • @chrissybabyist
    @chrissybabyist 2 года назад

    Like someone said on twitter, today is like Christmas for film photographers. 🥳🥳🥳🥳😍😍😍😍

  • @antonletsgodipping
    @antonletsgodipping 2 года назад

    I came here for the Kodak Gold photos - but stayed for the great colors of the video clip. You've really done a great job matching the colors of the stills and the vid

  • @urimsuh
    @urimsuh 2 года назад +1

    Another exciting video!

  • @Alpine_Wanderer
    @Alpine_Wanderer 2 года назад +2

    Inspiring as always man. Glad to hear the news from you. Stoked to get into one of my favorite films in a new format.

  • @atarijunge
    @atarijunge 2 года назад

    Beautiful photos, the raw quality of the Mamiya is always mind-blowing to me. Thanks for this video, really enjoyed it!

  • @depotmsa2362
    @depotmsa2362 2 года назад

    i'm so excited ! my whole life was shot on kodak gold and now we will get to use it to continue

  • @CodyTurner
    @CodyTurner 2 года назад +1

    Your videos keep getting better and better man. Keep up the great work.

  • @chiprock2692
    @chiprock2692 2 года назад +1

    You did this film launch justice. Excellent. Now I'm officially excited. Kodak needs to sponsor you!! Oh, and is it 'dynamic range' or 'film latitude' you're referring to.

  • @thomaspopple2291
    @thomaspopple2291 2 года назад

    The colors seem very true to life. Nice to see a film reproduce colors the way my eye does.

  • @lukewtcleland
    @lukewtcleland 2 года назад

    Oooo can't wait to try this myself! Loved the video

  • @martynaflisiak2117
    @martynaflisiak2117 2 года назад +1

    I absolutely love this video and the photographs you took are stunning!! can’t wait for the book to come out :))

  • @EmilVargaPhotography
    @EmilVargaPhotography 2 года назад +1

    Love the night time sign shots!

  • @BoostFutbol
    @BoostFutbol 2 года назад

    Honestly one of my fave videos you've uploaded. Some stunning images man.

  • @lyfeofajet
    @lyfeofajet 2 года назад +1

    The pics are amazing as usual. Got me all worked up for this 120 Gold.

  • @teocrawford
    @teocrawford 2 года назад

    I don't shoot 120 (yet) but still feel so excited about this update!? :,D

  • @JohnSpiderMan99
    @JohnSpiderMan99 2 года назад +7

    I do love how gold looks. But I’m pretty disappointed with the price. $1 less than porta 400 (at least from my local film store) doesn’t sound too appealing 😕. At least there is more options in 120.

  • @1994OBO
    @1994OBO 2 года назад +2

    Amazing photo’s Willem, everytime I see one of your vids I get the urge to sell all my belongings and buy a medium format camera and roadtrip forever through Cali

  • @CoopStewy
    @CoopStewy 2 года назад +1

    Not only do you shoot beautiful photos, you show them through these masterpiece videos

  • @thomas.kovacik
    @thomas.kovacik 2 года назад

    so good! dawg your a-roll setup here is fiiiiire

  • @PhilKnall
    @PhilKnall 2 года назад

    3:55 is it for me! Beautiful work.

  • @RealChiliConQueso
    @RealChiliConQueso 2 года назад +1

    This was the film I learned photography on, with my dad's old Nikon F2.
    BTW, a polarizer does wonders with the colors on this film.

  • @412foto
    @412foto 2 года назад

    great images as usual! Can't wait for this to be in stock somewhere

  • @martinmasalkovski
    @martinmasalkovski 2 года назад

    These pics are so clean Willem!

  • @kjak94
    @kjak94 2 года назад

    Finally some news from a manufacturer that isn't a price hike or a product discontinuation!!

  • @robertohamar
    @robertohamar 2 года назад +2

    Could you share the mic set-up in this video, please? I have the Rode Videomicro too, but what are you plugging it into to make it so light and compact? Love your channel and your peaceful videos btw!

  • @iainlaurence
    @iainlaurence 2 года назад

    What a cool opportunity to take some of the ‘pilot’ medium format Gold photos! I enjoyed seeing your work along with the other photographers on Kodak’s instagram.

  • @fuzk
    @fuzk 2 года назад +1

    Beautiful photos and lovely colours. And from a new film, yay! I wanna ask, for the “most photographed” motel shot in blue hour, what did you expose for that required a shutter release cable?

  • @eruizmiro
    @eruizmiro 2 года назад

    I wish I could go back in time and had loved photography the way you do at your age. Beautiful video.

  • @chrisrumsey7918
    @chrisrumsey7918 2 года назад

    So glad to see that you've tested it! Just ordered a pack for myself

  • @RussWeymouthPhotography
    @RussWeymouthPhotography 2 года назад

    Beautiful photos. The photos from the new Kodak film look so clean and vibrant but not over saturated.

  • @sgreen757
    @sgreen757 2 года назад

    Just pre-ordered some, really excited now - great shots Willem

  • @lukebt
    @lukebt 2 года назад +1

    Can’t wait for the book! Great video, that film stock looks amazing

  • @tomhardie.creative
    @tomhardie.creative 2 года назад

    This video was so beautifully constructed, love it :)

  • @euan1234
    @euan1234 2 года назад

    The photograph at 9:26 is superb. Great work!

  • @ioegreer
    @ioegreer 2 года назад +2

    ohhh

  • @taohumilo1075
    @taohumilo1075 2 года назад

    Thankyou for create such a mesmerizing content.
    your work really inspire me.

  • @danncorbit3623
    @danncorbit3623 2 года назад

    Loved the shots in the dunes. Magical.

  • @MarcelodelaVega
    @MarcelodelaVega 2 года назад

    this is beyond, thank you

  • @MvchineSoul
    @MvchineSoul 2 года назад

    literally christmas day for photographers! lovely video as always, Willem!

  • @jdpst20
    @jdpst20 2 года назад +3

    The shot at 13:21 into the sun I just feel like could never be archived with digital unless taking multiple exposures. The tones of the color just are so smooth and pleasing to the eye.

    • @ilia_sibiryakov
      @ilia_sibiryakov 2 года назад +1

      You can't achieve that with digital because digital software produces ugly highlights through RGB clipping/curves. The area around the sun would skew yellow and look crap. No multiple exposure can fix that. Only better software (which doesn't exist) or shooting film for now.

  • @hasnainbhatti2074
    @hasnainbhatti2074 2 года назад

    Just got my first medium format camera this past Friday and now Kodak Gold on 120mm...wowzers

  • @jasongold6751
    @jasongold6751 2 года назад

    When i was a pro, it was my only color film! I hated the muted color of pro films esp. soft Portra and Fuji. Doing weddings etc., amateurs would have had better, clearer pop colors! Glad to see it's back, but i have a shoebox of 120 color film i will never expose. Digital color for me! Grain never a problem in 6x7, 6x6. Nice snaps of So-Cal. California..

  • @Ashfielder
    @Ashfielder 2 года назад +1

    Actual investment in color film, that’s what we need more and more. Great that Kodak can still innovate and introduce something new.

  • @huneprut
    @huneprut Год назад

    Hi Willem.
    What tripod/tripod head are you using? Looks super convenient. 11:47

  • @bobsykes
    @bobsykes 2 года назад

    Those photos are amazing! Amid the flurry of social media comentary about this films release in 120 format today, I went to your video first, I guess becuase I've enjoyed your work for so long I know what your Portra photos look like, and this really was a surprise in comparison. Nice to have more tools in the box! (So excited the long awaited book is almost ready to order!)

    • @WillemVerb
      @WillemVerb  2 года назад

      Definitely nice to have more in the tool box! Thanks Bob

  • @phileezor
    @phileezor 2 года назад +1

    Wait... a minute. I think the last episode of Twin Peaks S3 was shot in that area lol. Dope Video As Always!

  • @jacobmaness7244
    @jacobmaness7244 2 года назад

    Very excited for this. Great photos Willem.

  • @actionimagesphotography
    @actionimagesphotography 2 года назад

    I'm amazed at the colors, dynamic range and sharpness/lack of grain in your shots. Night images are really impressive!
    I have lots of 120 film but I'm buying some asap!
    Love the channel by the way.

  • @fishmonkeycow9246
    @fishmonkeycow9246 2 года назад

    Beautiful video & photos! How did you meter the neon motel photos?

  • @PhotoBug3042
    @PhotoBug3042 2 года назад

    Really really loved the Death Valley shots. Welcome back to a nice filmstock.

  • @michaelsit8169
    @michaelsit8169 2 года назад

    Great shots. Willem - I love the tripod and the head and am in the market for one - what are you using?

  • @marcodekretser
    @marcodekretser 2 года назад +1

    I audibly groaned for the shot at 12:05 💀 Is there any place to see this full res???

  • @calamaricarter8609
    @calamaricarter8609 2 года назад

    Those pictures of the desert where absolutely gorgeous

  • @JUSTINBUISSON
    @JUSTINBUISSON 2 года назад

    Looks AMAZING

  • @HansBaier
    @HansBaier 2 года назад

    The desert photos are AMAZING!

  • @francis2255
    @francis2255 2 года назад

    12:40 "alright, running was worth it" lol

  • @Linkinbassist
    @Linkinbassist 2 года назад

    Honestly been hanging on for something like this to hit the market. The shots looked breathtaking, I am sold...!

  • @gavinlagrange6322
    @gavinlagrange6322 2 года назад

    Gorgeous shots man, I can't wait to try this film.

  • @55whiplash
    @55whiplash 2 года назад

    Great news! I like Gold on the 35 look forward to trying 120. Now maybe Fuji will make us some new cameras.

  • @vigodrakken7916
    @vigodrakken7916 2 года назад

    Great timing by Kodak, I was thinking of selling my Mamiya 7II seeing how film prices have skyrocketted as of late.

  • @wichersham
    @wichersham 2 года назад

    I never dreamed a day we have a NEW film in 2022!! Super!!

  • @copythestar
    @copythestar 2 года назад

    Love this video, and I can see so many people clicking with the gold when it comes out

  • @abgrafix
    @abgrafix 2 года назад

    Man your videos are pure moments of cinema.

  • @ArthurFilmmaker
    @ArthurFilmmaker 2 года назад

    Thank you, nice video! Great photos and overall i think i like those saturated colors even better than the neutral colors of Portra.

  • @martinhendry
    @martinhendry 2 года назад

    Some absolutely killer shots. Fantastic vid.

  • @iamhyunjoon
    @iamhyunjoon 2 года назад

    I'm always inspired by your videos. I love your work.

  • @ocenjacobsiyoiyacovos5295
    @ocenjacobsiyoiyacovos5295 2 года назад

    Video was dope, great colours and composition in the photographs. Enjoyed the video.

  • @GearGeekB
    @GearGeekB 2 года назад

    The size of the negative doesn’t change the dynamic range I’m pretty sure. Love that last photo tho 👏👏👏

  • @nitten13
    @nitten13 2 года назад

    In the old days Kodak always had a "Two tier" color film line. Gold was the amateur film and stuff like VPS and VPL were the pro emulsions. Pro films cost more to ship and store since they have to be kept cool for consistency. Oil paints aren't cheap either. We are lucky Kodak has put in a 120 production line for Gold 200.

  • @milesroberts1192
    @milesroberts1192 2 года назад +1

    man i guess i have to start shooting 120 again what the heck
    just when i thought i was out after getting a gfx 50r, they pull me back in with my favorite stock

  • @VariTimo
    @VariTimo 2 года назад

    Dynamic range isn't considerably effected by film size. The only thing that really plays into that is the signal to noise ratio or grain size. You can tolerate more graininess in the shadows, because the grain is less magnified and thus gain more underexposure latitude over smaller formats. But that just a perception thing. 120 film doesn't capture any more stops of dynamic range than 35mm or even half frame. I'd say the most you gain are a stop and a half of perceived dynamic range.