been fishing my whole life... also been casting wrong the whole time, i tried this out and omg it went so much further, i always thought i just wasnt strong enough or something
The slow mo was crazy, really illustrated just how much work the rod is doing for you. Definitely gonna try that technique tomorrow. Very helpful video!
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Absolutely love you guys.. parents are hassling me, I am a pre med student and all i want to do is run a fishing guide service! you guys are my inspiration. keep up the great content.
i think one thing that can get overlooked, is spooling line closer to the edge of the spool, it lowers friction on the top ring, but it also unravels slower which also lowers wind drag, so that also helps with distance, i see many people underutilized this, add a cheap backing(mono) to take up the spool so the braid sits more on the outside, great video!
I usually attribute distance to a correctly loaded spool with the optimum weight of the lure to match the rod, but i'll give this a go to see if I can increase my distance.
Joss Cues .... correctly said joss, also if u r going for distance the longer the pole the farther it will go due to increased tip speed also the longer butt using a two handed style of throwing increases leverage in speed......furthering distance on top of that , braids an braid line size, spool diameter, eye guides type and eye guide placement, and type of action the pole has will further the distance....... as far as accuracy shorter is not usually more accurate , how precise u need the throw to be ?.... longer butt handle more control in the cast
Im brand new to fishing, would this technique be possible if im using a weight a few feet before the lure? I'm wondering if it might get tangled up or whip around too much or something?
+Louie Yes, using thin line can significantly increase casting distance. I prefer 10 lb braid for most inshore fishing situations because it's thin enough for very good casting performance while being strong enough to land big fish. Fish On!
+Louie It's impossible to never get broken off with any sized line because some fish are just too big to stop before getting into structure. But when fishing areas without a lot of current and structure, I hardly ever have any breakoffs due to the 10 lb line... even when hooking a surprise tarpon as shown in this video: ruclips.net/video/K9cJeyjxeFk/видео.html As for leader sizes... it all depends on what you're targeting... here's a post that explains it in more detail: www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-tie-a-fishing-leader-for-snook-redfish-seatrout/
I also recommend using small braids line for casting cuz by having little line like #0.8, #1, it makes it very smooth and cast a whole lot farther than big lines, but you can’t use small lines on big rods, you can only use in on small light rods because it is a perfect fit
+Yodaddi Jim This is probably not the best cast for a freelined shrimp because it puts a lot of pressure on the shrimp when the rod loads and then the forward cast is applied... it would be better to do a softer cast with a shrimp.
I have not done a baitcasting video because I believe spinning gear is more effective than bait casting in most situations (baitcasting is best for casting heavier lures of a consistent weight, while spinning allows for covering a wider range of lure weights/shapes with more ease). Plus, there's no way that I could have pulled off this balcony snook catch with anything other than spinning gear:) www.saltstrong.com/balcony-snook-fishing/
That works for jigs and swimbaits, but spoons you gotta bring your rod practically 180° full send, let go of the line at about 80° and snap your wrist and hold your rod at 180° at the end of the cast for accuracy.
This is going to sound so naive, but with regards to surf rods which will cast farther: heavy or medium heavy? I recently got a heavy / fast action rod and have been pretty unimpressed with the casting distance. Also twice in the same day I had something huge take my cut bait & run only to quickly make the braid I had on the reel dug so deep into the rest of the line on the spool that it became tangled and completely stopped coming off of the reel. Line just snapped. Happened with 80lb and 50lb braid. Does this have anything to do with the type of rod, or is that just poor spooling on my part? Sorry for so many questions, but thanks for any info you can give me that might help me figure out what I’m doing wrong.
Great question! Make sure to ask this over on the actual blog or in the Community (www.saltstrong.com/) where the coaches spend their time. The blog can be found here: www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-cast-a-spinning-reel-farther/
Great question! Make sure to ask this over on the actual blog or in the Community (www.saltstrong.com/) where the coaches spend their time. The blog can be found here: www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-cast-a-spinning-reel-farther/
I have a 7 foot hollow fibre glass rod that is not very quick. How much approx weight should I put on the line to achieve a long distance cast .Also what distance should I expect from my rod? Thanks.
ly leader is 15 lb Stren Fluorocast tied onto 30 lb braid and the leader is snapping not at the knot but at the middle of the fluorocarbon when i cast my rod is there a solution you can give me ? my leader that i'm using is around 6ft long
Hi, I´m new to this and enjoying your videos. A question of you don't mind. You seem to cast with your arms reversed to how others cast on videos I've watched - you have a left-handed reel and cast with your left hand in the reel position and your right at the bottom of the rod, and then have to switch over. Others seem to do the reverse. Can I ask why?
Im so giddy to try this tomorrow lol. First time fishing was today. Managed to assemble everything and know what goes where, but man casting was not happening lmao, 30ft max...
@@Saltstrong huge improvement! I can reach a good distance consistently now. Its also very accurate. Now I need the right bait to get them to bite 🤣. I was landing right on top of the fish and they wouldn't even move. So I'm learning about that now. Great video.
You take your hands put one near the real to hold your line like normal. Put the other hand at the end of the rod. Make shore you have enough room. Pull the rod all the way back till it's perpendicular to your body arms out holding the rod above your head. Pull hard on the hand at the bottom of the rod. That hand should move fast. The other hand near the reel will move slower. It will act as a pivot. Good way to understand the consent of what's going on is to take your reel hand and hold the rod don't move that arm. Take your other hand and put it at the end of the handle and use that hand to move the rod around like a joystick. Second you can do smaller casts to better understand the mechanics of what's going on. Just plink with the rod flicking it using both hands like how it was explained above without pulling it all the way back. Hope that helps.
How do you control your distance as far as accuracy is concerned or gage the specific areas you're casting to? I don't think I've ever seen you guys make a video on that technique.
I know that this works well for lighter lures. However would you recommend this technique for lures over 3oz? It’s just feels like the lure might be to heavy to fling it back and forth like that. If not, is just arcing it from the back the best option? Thank you
GREAT QUESTION! With heavier setups like you are talking about it can be best to start from the back position. You do lose some accuracy, but when using heavy setups like that accuracy isn't as imperative.
Good casting tip gonna use it this summer! I use an 11 foot ST. Croix Legend rod for long distance! i can cast about over 80 yards! but your technique looks good for my 7' Shimano Teramar Inshore Southeast MH, Medium Fast rod paired with a Shimano Stradic 5000XGFK Spinning Reel!
Wow! An 80 yard cast is a feat. Yes, the physics of loading a rod applies to all sizes. Once they get over 10 feet, the loading may need to be done differently given the large amount of flex at play. Seems like most use a circular motion to maximize the rod's potential.
"Off the ground", and "pendulum" casting for the long distance casting seems to be the most common for the 10+ foot rods. Torso twisting applies a huge amount of force, with the push and pull lever action at the very end.
I most often use a 7'6" rod with 10 lb braid when going after redfish and specks on the flats... the exact models are in the "Equipment" section of this article: www.saltstrong.com/articles/snook-fishing-in-the-winter/
Luke thank you for this video. Do you think length of rod or thinner diameter line results in a longer distance cast all other things being equal? Let’s say 10 vs 20 lb braid or 7 vs 7.5 ft rod, which would have the bigger impact?
The line diameter would definitely have the bigger difference in that example... I can barely tell a difference with switching rod lengths, but I can't stand going up to 20 lb line when fishing the shallows because of how much it hurts casting performance.
So sorry to hear that. Any idea what happened? Where did the break take place (near the tip, near the middle, or near the base)? I can't imagine that a rod actually breaking from the force of a cast unless it had a crack/knick in it beforehand or if the lure used was much heavier than what the rod is rated for.
@@MirageMan001 Def let them know what happened because I can't imagine any way that a rod would snap from casting that lure... had to be some sort of defect in the rod.
@@Saltstrong the rod builder says he cringed watching this video. Just putting it out there that if you're using an expensive high sensitivity rod be careful using this technique.
@@MirageMan001 I have tested out a bunch of fishing rods across a wide array of price points and sensitivity ranges, and this casting technique has worked well for them all. It's just that some require slightly different speeds to keep it all under control... or it's just that I don't spend enough time in the gym to generate the force to snap a rod on a cast:)
Because of your video, I have learned to cast farther. I use to cock the rod back so far just to achieve a far cast but now since I'm not using med.heavy I am able to do a slight whip and cast far!=) Could I fish with you guys. I'm from around your area
Great question... I do it right when my lure lands to ensure that I don't accidentally harm casting distance by doing it too early... and because the rod is pointing towards the lure at that time, I'll flip the bail and then more the rod tip back towards me to create tension on the line during those first turns.
Thanks for making time to leave the nice comment! Here's a fun video of that cast in action when a once in a lifetime opportunity came up: ruclips.net/video/mv-Dgp3xDQI/видео.html
Hey, really appreciate the video, `cause it really helped with my casting. Wiith just one problem,even the distance really do increased, it doesn`t reach the distance as other people. My rod is a medium 6`6, when I use a 5-7g millow, I can`t really cast it to a effective distance, even a 10g lure it`s just a distance that is around 10-15 meters. Is my rod too short for fishing on shore?
My guess is that you're using thick line... switching to light braid will add a lot of distance if you're not yet using it (I most often use 10 lb braid for inshore fishing since it casts so well and it plenty strong).
As a physics teacher, I am a little embarrassed that I didn't realize this technique. When the word "lever" was mentioned, I was like, "aah, that makes sense". Thank you for the video.
Maybe you can do one where you can measure how far your lure goes. I cast a 5/8oz yozuri mag minnow and it looks like 50-60yrd is what I can get from a 7'6
it basicly doesent, for the long rods many use in europe 12-15 feet u need to load the rod with a MUCH larger movement and the rods obv has 2-3 times the lengt of the handle when it comes to accuracy thats just a mather of practice:)
It matters a lot. You can't make a long-distance cast using a short length of line. Try to cast with between 3' and 5' of line and you'll definitely increase your distance. This allows you to properly load your rod and lure.
Yes and no, more weight will help but if it's too much weight for you to handle right or the rod hates that amount of weight it will not go as far. The only way to know what is the best amount of weight is to cast with diffrent amounts of weight till you get the desired results.
Sh1t just tried this and the freaking 3 ounce sinker hit on top of my head and now I got a big @ bump on head. Thanks a lot just what I needed for me to get my @ home.
Nice to see someone else showing this casting method. I've been teaching my wife to bass fish and showing her this for a while. One question I have though. Why do you put your right hand at the bottom? Your reeling with your left and holding the rod with your right. I put my left hand on the bottom. Then I am already holding the rod with my right and ready to reel without switching hands . I never understood why people who use baitcasters reel with their right hand when they are right handed but reel with their left hand when using a spinning reel. I always want my dominant arm to hold the rod and reel with my left. Maybe you can share some insight into that? Thanks, Keith
I guess that I'm ambidextrous because I have found that my casting accuracy is best with my left hand at the top while my slightly stronger right arm feels best for the rod. The setup you described where the rod hand never moves is the more efficient way to do it. But the hand switch does not require much effort and can be done while the lure is in the air so it hasn't seemed to cause any problems.
I was looking for a video that demonstrates this whipping, I'm trying to learn this technique but all the time I'm afraid that the lure will hit the the rod, and that was the case today, i tried and the lure bang the rod tip, so i gave up and use my regular cast, after 1 hour or so my rod tip broken, probebly the hit of the lure made damage that weakened the rod, ZENITH RE BIRTH...):
The lure should not be able to hit the rod if its weight is within the recommended weight range of the rod. Was that lure heavier than what the rod was designed for?
Salt Strong No sir, the lure was 11g, the rod action 3.5g-14g. Maybe because I kept thinking about the possibility that the lure would hit the rod, I made it happen. I'm not going to give up anyway, I have cheaper rods and I'll take them to practice and catch the technique. Is it important to leave a certain length of wire before casting? Thank you
I'm going to practice this, however if my rod breaks I'm guna be so upset, I have new uba Gracia graphite medium rod 7 ft. I'm nervous but guna try it.
If you're using a lure that's in the recommended weight class for the rod, there should not be a risk of breakage. But if that's a worry, then just ease up on the back-cast and gradually increase the power over time to make sure it's all under control.
A spinning reel doesn't have nearly as much impact to the cast than casting reels. The line is just shooting around the edge of the spool, so that edge must be very smooth. And the line needs to be loaded properly so that the gap between the line and spool edge is as small as possible while still not causing wind knots.
Yes, a longer rod allows for greater tip speed with can allow for longer casts. But as a rod length increases, the accuracy decreases... so it's all about matching the rod to the type of fishing you plan to do.
Length does help but a major factor to consider is how well the rod loads up it’s what you’re throwing. If it’s to stiff you’ll lose distance and if it’s to soft you’ll lose distance.
Heritage Not Hate :.... yes it does, it increases speed of lure thrown out provided the pole is matched up to lure weight...but longer is heavier... how long a pole do u need for the distance u want out of it...
Luke, let me start by saying I like the beard! And, ha, your voice sounds a whole lot like Ray Romano of TV fame. If I closed my eyes and just listened, I'd think "Everybody Loves Raymond" was giving the tutorial. On your casting tip, you have the leverage aspects all correct; but, you make one error that might be okay for you . . . but might confuse others. You have a left hand reel . . . but you cast with your left hand forward as the fulcrum and you pull "back" with your right hand to snap the rod. All great . . . except the textbook spinning reel cast is such that the forward hand, the one straddling the reel post, never moves. It stays planted all day long as your other hand comes forward after the cast to flip the bail, feather the line, work the drag, flip the anti-reverse lever if it has one and is needed, and more. In your case, the way you are showing it, you'd have to somehow switch hands to make your left available to work the handle and perform some of these functions. You lose the time advantage if you have to juggle your hands. *** It could be you have a personal "override" here at work, that you have to cast AND reel with the same hand, I don't know. Brad
Haha... I got a kick out of the Ray Romano similarity. As for the left vs. right hand positioning, I've found that it doesn't really matter either way... I recommend going with whichever one feels most comfortable for casting... and then go with whichever feels best for reeling. I know that the textbook way is to keep the non-reel hand at the top, but I have found it to be more efficient for me this way. As for downside, there technically isn't any time loss on the switch because that's done right after the cast when the line is going out (it takes 1 second to do as seen at the 2:01 mark which is second that otherwise nothing could happen since the lure is still shooting out... and the switch leaves my reel hand in the perfect spot to efficiently flip down the bail once the lure hits the water before going down to the handle).
Good points! Lots of great alternatives exist that work well away from what is often thought of as the technically correct method. The great golfing legend, Lee Trevino, had a swing pattern that defied all logic . . . and he won a bunch of major championships doing it his way! Thanks for the response, Ray . . . I mean Luke! Ha! Brad
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been fishing my whole life... also been casting wrong the whole time, i tried this out and omg it went so much further, i always thought i just wasnt strong enough or something
The slow mo was crazy, really illustrated just how much work the rod is doing for you. Definitely gonna try that technique tomorrow. Very helpful video!
No nonsense fishing videos, no crap music, no cartoon character delivery, and most importantly...a ton of valuable info. I lkd and sbd...
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Absolutely love you guys.. parents are hassling me, I am a pre med student and all i want to do is run a fishing guide service! you guys are my inspiration. keep up the great content.
We lost him, sadly. He's a doctor now.
Doctor brown I need some medical advice
@@lonestar1775 rip
i think one thing that can get overlooked, is spooling line closer to the edge of the spool, it lowers friction on the top ring, but it also unravels slower which also lowers wind drag, so that also helps with distance, i see many people underutilized this, add a cheap backing(mono) to take up the spool so the braid sits more on the outside, great video!
Absolutely! I completely agree. Thanks for making time to leave the helpful comment. Fish On!
I did this. Lost my lure and the top my rod 😁
😅😅😅
You probably need a better rod and stronger line😁
😂
Lure too heavy?
@@keithsr. I think he did the wrong knot
When I cast it flies upto Mars and lands few metres near me, it's a disgrace fish don't live in Mars otherwise I would be a great caster
I've bought a Rod&reel yesterday, this is so accurate!!
throw it sidearm trus tme its so more easy
I usually attribute distance to a correctly loaded spool with the optimum weight of the lure to match the rod, but i'll give this a go to see if I can increase my distance.
Joss Cues .... correctly said joss, also if u r going for distance the longer the pole the farther it will go due to increased tip speed also the longer butt using a two handed style of throwing increases leverage in speed......furthering distance on top of that , braids an braid line size, spool diameter, eye guides type and eye guide placement, and type of action the pole has will further the distance....... as far as accuracy shorter is not usually more accurate , how precise u need the throw to be ?.... longer butt handle more control in the cast
Thank You. I've never been able to figure out such a simple thing. It would have been great to actually see, in your video, how far you cast.
Thnx you stop me from buying a $600 baitcast setup! Now i can use that money for some HOOKERS!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
are you closing the bail manually every time?
And how far is your lure dangling what’s ideal?
Always close the bail with your hand and in the same motion give a quick pull on the line to prevent wind knots
+Coby Welch Yes, a quick pull in the line will significantly help prevent wind knots... especially when casting into the wind. Fish On!
You probity have too much line on your reel or a twist in your line.
@ESskills that only works with trolling or bait casting reels.
Teaching my wife to use a spinning rod. Great Job !!!!!
Thank you!! I just started fishing and I’ve been doing the exact things you said NOT to do!! Thanks for the correction
Glad it was helpful!
That seems to be a very long rode. Does this method work for 7 ft or 7.5 ft rods?
Im brand new to fishing, would this technique be possible if im using a weight a few feet before the lure? I'm wondering if it might get tangled up or whip around too much or something?
Thiner line also helps , great tips!
+Louie Yes, using thin line can significantly increase casting distance. I prefer 10 lb braid for most inshore fishing situations because it's thin enough for very good casting performance while being strong enough to land big fish. Fish On!
+Salt Strong do you ever get broken off with 10lb braid? What lb leader?
+Louie It's impossible to never get broken off with any sized line because some fish are just too big to stop before getting into structure. But when fishing areas without a lot of current and structure, I hardly ever have any breakoffs due to the 10 lb line... even when hooking a surprise tarpon as shown in this video: ruclips.net/video/K9cJeyjxeFk/видео.html
As for leader sizes... it all depends on what you're targeting... here's a post that explains it in more detail: www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-tie-a-fishing-leader-for-snook-redfish-seatrout/
i learned alot. tnx for this. been doing it wrong the whole time.
I also recommend using small braids line for casting cuz by having little line like #0.8, #1, it makes it very smooth and cast a whole lot farther than big lines, but you can’t use small lines on big rods, you can only use in on small light rods because it is a perfect fit
i had small fish about 5cm lure but i can not cast it far. Can i attach a weight on to the line ?
You had some dam good tips there going to try them out Tuesday. Thank you
Thanks for making time to leave the nice comment. Fish On!
great how-to video my casting improved immensely
Does it matter how I have my hands placed? I’ve always used my right hand to hold the line
Can I try it with a 3 ounce sinker on the shore
How about casting a Free-line shrimp? Will it be a much softer cast?
+Yodaddi Jim This is probably not the best cast for a freelined shrimp because it puts a lot of pressure on the shrimp when the rod loads and then the forward cast is applied... it would be better to do a softer cast with a shrimp.
Salt Strong could you just hold the rod back and do a strong forward cast? Without the whip?
My friend's dad once casted his brother's sunglasses right off his face, there was an interesting discussion about it soon afterward.
what did he catch with it? :))
MeloKast well if it was salt water I would assume a sun fish.
I broke my 6.6 feet rod using this technique fml
crap rod
That’s why you get an uglytick.
faulty rod prolly didnt qc
Will this work with a thicker rod?
How about on Carolina rig with with 4 feet leader line?
Please give u a video on Bait Casters and Rods?
Excellent video, you make it look so easy, have you done a video on baitcasting!?
I have not done a baitcasting video because I believe spinning gear is more effective than bait casting in most situations (baitcasting is best for casting heavier lures of a consistent weight, while spinning allows for covering a wider range of lure weights/shapes with more ease). Plus, there's no way that I could have pulled off this balcony snook catch with anything other than spinning gear:) www.saltstrong.com/balcony-snook-fishing/
Salt Strong seems like the pulling motion of the rod butt would be similar.
what cast further a size 4000 reel or 1000 reel? please help
That works for jigs and swimbaits, but spoons you gotta bring your rod practically 180° full send, let go of the line at about 80° and snap your wrist and hold your rod at 180° at the end of the cast for accuracy.
If the rod is rated up to 3/4 oz lure weight can i use a 1 oz or 1 1/2 without problems?
Im newbie . Can someone help me why everytime i cast it out , my line was not tight and straight
What type of reel you using?
Your line has memory
Peter Do how do u do undo the memory
I found spiderwire braid superline really good on a light, medium graphite rod
This is going to sound so naive, but with regards to surf rods which will cast farther: heavy or medium heavy? I recently got a heavy / fast action rod and have been pretty unimpressed with the casting distance. Also twice in the same day I had something huge take my cut bait & run only to quickly make the braid I had on the reel dug so deep into the rest of the line on the spool that it became tangled and completely stopped coming off of the reel. Line just snapped. Happened with 80lb and 50lb braid. Does this have anything to do with the type of rod, or is that just poor spooling on my part? Sorry for so many questions, but thanks for any info you can give me that might help me figure out what I’m doing wrong.
Great question! Make sure to ask this over on the actual blog or in the Community (www.saltstrong.com/) where the coaches spend their time. The blog can be found here:
www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-cast-a-spinning-reel-farther/
Does spin rail position matter?
How long should the lure hang from the tip of the rod.
Great question! Make sure to ask this over on the actual blog or in the Community (www.saltstrong.com/) where the coaches spend their time. The blog can be found here:
www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-cast-a-spinning-reel-farther/
I have a 7 foot hollow fibre glass rod that is not very quick. How much approx weight should I put on the line to achieve a long distance cast .Also what distance should I expect from my rod? Thanks.
ly leader is 15 lb Stren Fluorocast tied onto 30 lb braid and the leader is snapping not at the knot but at the middle of the fluorocarbon when i cast my rod is there a solution you can give me ? my leader that i'm using is around 6ft long
Why do you use such a strong mainline with such a light leader? What species are you targeting?
Salt Strong bass
Hi, I´m new to this and enjoying your videos. A question of you don't mind. You seem to cast with your arms reversed to how others cast on videos I've watched - you have a left-handed reel and cast with your left hand in the reel position and your right at the bottom of the rod, and then have to switch over. Others seem to do the reverse. Can I ask why?
i like this for casting lures, but what about casting lines with sinkers and bait, do u do the same here?
Same thing, but you'll often need to be more gentle so the bait doesn't fly off.
Im so giddy to try this tomorrow lol. First time fishing was today. Managed to assemble everything and know what goes where, but man casting was not happening lmao, 30ft max...
Let us know how you do!
@@Saltstrong huge improvement! I can reach a good distance consistently now. Its also very accurate. Now I need the right bait to get them to bite 🤣. I was landing right on top of the fish and they wouldn't even move. So I'm learning about that now. Great video.
cna this work with big rigs with long leader line
Great question! Make sure to ask this over in the Community (www.saltstrong.com/) where the coaches spend their time.
Does this apply to 5’5 or 6’ rods or just the longer ones like you have in this video?
Thanks for the tips! Quick question-how would you feather ur cast or stop it short? Just touch the line with your finger again?
Yes. Here's a new casting tutorial video that you'll surely enjoy in case you haven't yet seen it: www.saltstrong.com/articles/dart-cast-tutorial/
Will definitely have to try and get this down.
Hope it was helpful!
Nice tip. Can you do a variation on this for long casting, i.e surf casting lures with an 11' ft rod from the beach?
You take your hands put one near the real to hold your line like normal. Put the other hand at the end of the rod. Make shore you have enough room. Pull the rod all the way back till it's perpendicular to your body arms out holding the rod above your head. Pull hard on the hand at the bottom of the rod. That hand should move fast. The other hand near the reel will move slower. It will act as a pivot.
Good way to understand the consent of what's going on is to take your reel hand and hold the rod don't move that arm. Take your other hand and put it at the end of the handle and use that hand to move the rod around like a joystick. Second you can do smaller casts to better understand the mechanics of what's going on. Just plink with the rod flicking it using both hands like how it was explained above without pulling it all the way back.
Hope that helps.
👍 Good tip thanks, what is ideal rod length for lures in 10-15gr range
Type or line Ave size of lure matter?
How do you control your distance as far as accuracy is concerned or gage the specific areas you're casting to? I don't think I've ever seen you guys make a video on that technique.
looking great- i m gonna try. i feel a bit ashamed that i didn t know already... fishing for 30 years.
Thank you. This is good. I’m definitely going to be practicing this.
You're so welcome!
Does it matter how much weight is on to cast farther
I know that this works well for lighter lures. However would you recommend this technique for lures over 3oz? It’s just feels like the lure might be to heavy to fling it back and forth like that. If not, is just arcing it from the back the best option? Thank you
GREAT QUESTION!
With heavier setups like you are talking about it can be best to start from the back position. You do lose some accuracy, but when using heavy setups like that accuracy isn't as imperative.
Thanks!
Cedar point behind u?
Good casting tip gonna use it this summer! I use an 11 foot ST. Croix Legend rod for long distance! i can cast about over 80 yards! but your technique looks good for my 7' Shimano Teramar Inshore Southeast MH, Medium Fast rod paired with a Shimano Stradic 5000XGFK Spinning Reel!
Wow! An 80 yard cast is a feat. Yes, the physics of loading a rod applies to all sizes. Once they get over 10 feet, the loading may need to be done differently given the large amount of flex at play. Seems like most use a circular motion to maximize the rod's potential.
"Off the ground", and "pendulum" casting for the long distance casting seems to be the most common for the 10+ foot rods. Torso twisting applies a huge amount of force, with the push and pull lever action at the very end.
Great tip. What length rod are you using and what lb test line? Am looking for the best spinning combo for reds and specks on the Alabama coast.
I most often use a 7'6" rod with 10 lb braid when going after redfish and specks on the flats... the exact models are in the "Equipment" section of this article: www.saltstrong.com/articles/snook-fishing-in-the-winter/
Luke thank you for this video. Do you think length of rod or thinner diameter line results in a longer distance cast all other things being equal? Let’s say 10 vs 20 lb braid or 7 vs 7.5 ft rod, which would have the bigger impact?
The line diameter would definitely have the bigger difference in that example... I can barely tell a difference with switching rod lengths, but I can't stand going up to 20 lb line when fishing the shallows because of how much it hurts casting performance.
Thank you very much for that information Luke!
Just broke a brand new $300 custom rod using this technique. Thanks a lot for the tip!
So sorry to hear that. Any idea what happened? Where did the break take place (near the tip, near the middle, or near the base)? I can't imagine that a rod actually breaking from the force of a cast unless it had a crack/knick in it beforehand or if the lure used was much heavier than what the rod is rated for.
@@Saltstrong Literally brand new rod. Bushido CB78 blank with microwave guides. Using a redfish magic spinner bait. Broke about 18" from the tip.
@@MirageMan001 Def let them know what happened because I can't imagine any way that a rod would snap from casting that lure... had to be some sort of defect in the rod.
@@Saltstrong the rod builder says he cringed watching this video. Just putting it out there that if you're using an expensive high sensitivity rod be careful using this technique.
@@MirageMan001 I have tested out a bunch of fishing rods across a wide array of price points and sensitivity ranges, and this casting technique has worked well for them all. It's just that some require slightly different speeds to keep it all under control... or it's just that I don't spend enough time in the gym to generate the force to snap a rod on a cast:)
Hi Luke Simon, Can you kindly advise what length rod and what action rod is best for casting a distance of 52 meter. Thanks.
jTarry Oh Peng Yew I recommend a 9 to 10ft rod.
Thanks Bro. thanks for the reply.
Because of your video, I have learned to cast farther. I use to cock the rod back so far just to achieve a far cast but now since I'm not using med.heavy I am able to do a slight whip and cast far!=)
Could I fish with you guys. I'm from around your area
So glad to see that you're increased your casting distance from this video!
Tight Lines!
To prevent taking time to reel in extra slack, when should you flip the bale back over? As soon as your lure lands? Or before?
Great question... I do it right when my lure lands to ensure that I don't accidentally harm casting distance by doing it too early... and because the rod is pointing towards the lure at that time, I'll flip the bail and then more the rod tip back towards me to create tension on the line during those first turns.
I love this technique. ✌🏻
Thanks man helped my cast game
Nice video Luke. I’m a trolling guy trying to learn the casting and bottom fishing game. This video really helps. Great job!
Thanks for making time to leave the nice comment! Here's a fun video of that cast in action when a once in a lifetime opportunity came up: ruclips.net/video/mv-Dgp3xDQI/видео.html
Whats better for jetty fishing? 8'6ft or 7'6ft?
Hey, really appreciate the video, `cause it really helped with my casting. Wiith just one problem,even the distance really do
increased, it doesn`t reach the distance as other people. My rod is a medium 6`6, when I use a 5-7g millow, I can`t really cast it to a effective distance, even a 10g lure it`s just a distance that is around 10-15 meters. Is my rod too short for fishing on shore?
My guess is that you're using thick line... switching to light braid will add a lot of distance if you're not yet using it (I most often use 10 lb braid for inshore fishing since it casts so well and it plenty strong).
So a 6`6 rod won`t be a problem onshore fishing ? I am using light line.
As a physics teacher, I am a little embarrassed that I didn't realize this technique. When the word "lever" was mentioned, I was like, "aah, that makes sense". Thank you for the video.
Thanks for check it out!
Maybe you can do one where you can measure how far your lure goes. I cast a 5/8oz yozuri mag minnow and it looks like 50-60yrd is what I can get from a 7'6
here in holland we sometimes need to cast 260 feet. then you really need the rod going back.
For that kind of distance, you'll need a longer rod. I'm not sure how this casting style works for the longer rods (9ft+).
it basicly doesent, for the long rods many use in europe 12-15 feet u need to load the rod with a MUCH larger movement and the rods obv has 2-3 times the lengt of the handle when it comes to accuracy thats just a mather of practice:)
Hi, does the length between the rod tip and the Lure or weight matters?
It matters a lot. You can't make a long-distance cast using a short length of line. Try to cast with between 3' and 5' of line and you'll definitely increase your distance. This allows you to properly load your rod and lure.
@@Shurmash Many Thanks !
Yo I’m 14 and fishing for trout tomorrow on shore and I want to cast very far with a cast master will more wait work to cast further
Yes and no, more weight will help but if it's too much weight for you to handle right or the rod hates that amount of weight it will not go as far. The only way to know what is the best amount of weight is to cast with diffrent amounts of weight till you get the desired results.
Sh1t just tried this and the freaking 3 ounce sinker hit on top of my head and now I got a big @ bump on head. Thanks a lot just what I needed for me to get my @ home.
You did it wrong bro
You don’t use this technique with a three ounce sinker it’s meant for light or weightless casts
Awesome demonstration. Gotta love the the web.
Nice to see someone else showing this casting method. I've been teaching my wife to bass fish and showing her this for a while. One question I have though. Why do you put your right hand at the bottom? Your reeling with your left and holding the rod with your right. I put my left hand on the bottom. Then I am already holding the rod with my right and ready to reel without switching hands .
I never understood why people who use baitcasters reel with their right hand when they are right handed but reel with their left hand when using a spinning reel. I always want my dominant arm to hold the rod and reel with my left. Maybe you can share some insight into that? Thanks, Keith
I guess that I'm ambidextrous because I have found that my casting accuracy is best with my left hand at the top while my slightly stronger right arm feels best for the rod.
The setup you described where the rod hand never moves is the more efficient way to do it. But the hand switch does not require much effort and can be done while the lure is in the air so it hasn't seemed to cause any problems.
@@Saltstrong fabulous 👍
What type of fishing rod are you using？
After I thrown lure my line is getting mess
How?
great explanation
I was looking for a video that demonstrates this whipping, I'm trying to learn this technique but all the time I'm afraid that the lure will hit the the rod, and that was the case today, i tried and the lure bang the rod tip, so i gave up and use my regular cast, after 1 hour or so my rod tip broken, probebly the hit of the lure made damage that weakened the rod, ZENITH RE BIRTH...):
The lure should not be able to hit the rod if its weight is within the recommended weight range of the rod. Was that lure heavier than what the rod was designed for?
Salt Strong
No sir, the lure was 11g, the rod action 3.5g-14g.
Maybe because I kept thinking about the possibility that the lure would hit the rod, I made it happen. I'm not going to give up anyway, I have cheaper rods and I'll take them to practice and catch the technique. Is it important to leave a certain length of wire before casting?
Thank you
Would there be any benefit in leaving the bait runner on the back of the spinning reel open when casting?
I'm going to practice this, however if my rod breaks I'm guna be so upset, I have new uba Gracia graphite medium rod 7 ft. I'm nervous but guna try it.
If you're using a lure that's in the recommended weight class for the rod, there should not be a risk of breakage. But if that's a worry, then just ease up on the back-cast and gradually increase the power over time to make sure it's all under control.
@@Saltstrong sweet thanks for tip!
Is this a good way to cast heavy baits too?
Only if the rod is rated for the heavier lure... otherwise, it could be dangerous.
I have a ultralight rod but only 6ft..can i used it for shore casting??
If you are talking surf fishing then probably not very well
does the quality of the reel make a difference in casting distance?
A spinning reel doesn't have nearly as much impact to the cast than casting reels. The line is just shooting around the edge of the spool, so that edge must be very smooth. And the line needs to be loaded properly so that the gap between the line and spool edge is as small as possible while still not causing wind knots.
what rod are you using. looks like a 7'6" length.
Here's a link to the rod that was used in this video: www.saltstrong.com/articles/temple-fork-outfitter-spinning-rod-review/
What's the best way to cast a 1oz spoon?
the rod look very long... i have a 7 footer rod. is it good for saltwater fishing?
The rod used in this video is 7'6". Yes, a 7 footer is a very common size for saltwater fishing.
alright! I really interested with saltwater fishing, luckily owning just one 7ft rod last year. Still learning how to fishing like you guys! thanks!
We're here to help if needed... posting new tips every week on our website: www.saltstrong.com/fishing-tips/
Would a longer rod change the distance?? Tryna go far
Yes, a longer rod allows for greater tip speed with can allow for longer casts. But as a rod length increases, the accuracy decreases... so it's all about matching the rod to the type of fishing you plan to do.
Salt Strong thanks man!
Length does help but a major factor to consider is how well the rod loads up it’s what you’re throwing. If it’s to stiff you’ll lose distance and if it’s to soft you’ll lose distance.
Heritage Not Hate :.... yes it does, it increases speed of lure thrown out provided the pole is matched up to lure weight...but longer is heavier... how long a pole do u need for the distance u want out of it...
Who has a fishing trip tomorrow? 😂
In 15 minutes
@@cheese6339 Lol😂😂😂
@@cheese6339 did it go well?
will try, love the video
WHAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE FOR CASTING OUT THE REEL OR THE ROD
is that on the hudson??
This casting video was filmed on Hillsborough Bay in Tampa, FL (that's downtown Tampa in the background).
+Salt Strong thx
While casting,is the drag to be loosened completely
no, the drag will have no affect on the casting
Good points...THANKS
Thanks for the tips mate :)
Luke, let me start by saying I like the beard! And, ha, your voice sounds a whole lot like Ray Romano of TV fame. If I closed my eyes and just listened, I'd think "Everybody Loves Raymond" was giving the tutorial. On your casting tip, you have the leverage aspects all correct; but, you make one error that might be okay for you . . . but might confuse others. You have a left hand reel . . . but you cast with your left hand forward as the fulcrum and you pull "back" with your right hand to snap the rod. All great . . . except the textbook spinning reel cast is such that the forward hand, the one straddling the reel post, never moves. It stays planted all day long as your other hand comes forward after the cast to flip the bail, feather the line, work the drag, flip the anti-reverse lever if it has one and is needed, and more. In your case, the way you are showing it, you'd have to somehow switch hands to make your left available to work the handle and perform some of these functions. You lose the time advantage if you have to juggle your hands. *** It could be you have a personal "override" here at work, that you have to cast AND reel with the same hand, I don't know. Brad
Haha... I got a kick out of the Ray Romano similarity.
As for the left vs. right hand positioning, I've found that it doesn't really matter either way... I recommend going with whichever one feels most comfortable for casting... and then go with whichever feels best for reeling.
I know that the textbook way is to keep the non-reel hand at the top, but I have found it to be more efficient for me this way. As for downside, there technically isn't any time loss on the switch because that's done right after the cast when the line is going out (it takes 1 second to do as seen at the 2:01 mark which is second that otherwise nothing could happen since the lure is still shooting out... and the switch leaves my reel hand in the perfect spot to efficiently flip down the bail once the lure hits the water before going down to the handle).
Good points! Lots of great alternatives exist that work well away from what is often thought of as the technically correct method. The great golfing legend, Lee Trevino, had a swing pattern that defied all logic . . . and he won a bunch of major championships doing it his way! Thanks for the response, Ray . . . I mean Luke! Ha! Brad
Haha. Tight Lines!
If you think Luke sounds like Ray Romano, you've never listened or watched EliasVFishing channel. 😁
I know this is an older discussion, but if the hands are reversed, I'm assuming the feet should be too? Similar to baseball. @saltstrong
Thanks my guy.
What about side casting?
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