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You got to be kidding me .... i have seen those mountain bunkers , it only has a small opening for barell and sight .... these wepon system with leaser and programmable ammo .... damn ITBP is fucked ...
the lethal zone is 1m (~1 yard in burger unit) and the injury zone is likely several times of that so a shot around 10-20m near the enemy could work as a warning shot
Smart Chinese nobody in the world have this,only in China,technology maybe better then USA,granete luncher with that accurate,precision and reach first see something like that just smart people
@biljanaovujovic1759 I do appreciate your Chinese English. 😂 (just finding it funny I can instantly recognize you are Asian by the way you speak.) The US actually had this type of grenade launcher, but they scrapped it I think because of "Geneva Convention". If a grenade does not explode and gets stuck in a body, it might kill medical staff who are trying to save him. With that said, I didn't understand lately why it can't just "be on a timer," but "explode on impact." Well, the Chinese have done it. Well done! I wouldn't be surprised if other countries follow suit soon too. I would not want to go up against that as an infrantry.
@@millanferende6723 It was called the XM25 and it was a semi automatic magazine fed 25mm grenade launcher. Pretty much a rifle configuration. It could be detonated in direct impact or airburst in order to hit enemies with indirect fire. It had an effective pinpoint fire range of 500M and an AOE effective range of 700M It appeared in the video game Modern Warfare 3 in 2011.
@@biljanaovujovic1759 Except America literally had this in the 90's and scrapped it. Even the PLA said that they took it from them, actually citing their sources instead of stealing them.
Any other StarCraft fans here?? This reminded me of the C-10 canister rifle used by the Ghosts. If you don't know, it's basically a souped-up sniper rifle that shoots 25mm antipersonnel explosive rounds. Thanks for another great one btw, Chris!
As the famous author Lu Xun once wrote, “The first person to eat crab is very much to be admired.” Ever since, the phrase “the first person to eat crab” has been used in China to describe brave and enterprising individuals.
@@JustThatOneRandomGuyI mean just look at crabs. If no one has ever eaten them and told us that crabs are really delicious, who would think that this ugly looking creature with terrifying claws is edible.😂
The AC-130 is useless in a near-peer conflict, as much as it is beautiful, it'll me shot down by MANPADS way before it gets near a firing position.@@ajrey8457
@@tiberianexcalibur thats for handheld launchers only automatic grenade launchers can shoot out as far as 2200 meters of course at the cost of accuracy, but a rain of grenades should be enough for supression
The look on your face when the snipe you are tasked with eliminating with your grenade launching anti sniper sniper rifle with a 1,000 meter range smiles at you from 1,200 yards away. 😢
@@wastool snipers can reposition, yk. Edit: i glossed over the fact that you said yards... 97 metres difference. All the sniper needs to do is aim sligthly higher.
It had an extended rubber grommet on the scope im not sure on its range but a 50 cal explosive round will do the same thing when fired at a wall and some shotgun systems fire smart flechette rounds up to a 150 yards using air burst and room clearing fragments . It's not something you want blowing up on you but neithers a 50 cal .
Try ask Saudi dude... Maybe... there's a possibility... that someone just can afford dump crap and Chinese is the only supplier can spare their capacity for such peoples beside their mass producing. @@cameronspence4977
@@cameronspence4977 tbf Norinco is a state owned military contractor that predates China becoming the world factory of cheap junk. From what I read many of the pre-ban Norinco imports are pretty well made.
Glad you talked about the recoil. Watching those slow mo shots makes a .50 look tame. Also "If you believe what the Chinese say" should be just permanently on screen at this point.
The US lies harder than China though. If nothing for the simple fact they must constantly justify invading other peoples land under the pretense of world policing
@@1983pety Yeah, and the dudes got like a 3:1 KD. He killed his wife, his daughter, and an eyeball. People on battlefield would be dying for those ratios.
The LG5, which is a 40mm variant of the QLU-11, actually performed well during the Houthi-Saudi conflict. The Saudis used it during combat operations in Jizan. There are several issues that were also used by the Indonesian in the West Papua Conflict but I never got any footage to prove that they used or even acquired it. and because the LG5 is designed as a sniper grenade launcher. so it seems suitable for use in Urban Warfare. and for the 40mm version (LG5) there are various types of ammunition available, such as BGJ5 (HEDP), BGL3 high-explosive precision grenade, BGL3A programmable airburst grenade 40×53mm, BGH1 high-explosive incendiary grenade, 40×53mm BGR1 incendiary grenade, 40×53mm and BGS1 training grenade 40×53mm
@@urcompnioncube0213 Yeah right, thank god the Taliban also didn't have RPG, that weight less than the Chinese grenade sniper and achieve a bigger explosion, otherwise the US vehicles would have been in huge trouble. Oh wait, they had those in crazy numbers, unguided RPGs aren't expensive and do the exact same thing, but more effectively. And yes, they can hit from more than a kilometer away.
@@gus808 1000 meters is aiming practically straight at the target since this is a direct fire weapon. I think its like 2000 or 3000 if you "arc" it like a mortar. Then add in the smart rounds for desired effect and it becomes a nasty little postal service for hill to hill action.
@@gus808 I said practically not exactly 😅 a 40mm grenade at that speed needs like a peak arc of like what, 8-12 meters to reach the target?? Havent done much calculation like that and my math sucks but something like it?? Isn't that still within the range of a "direct fire weapon"??
@@WynnofThule against the japanese US rarely brings AT guns as most of the japanese tanks are obsolete by the time US forces does island hopping. So the US actually used 37 mm field gun against both japanese tanks and infantries, with different ammunitions ofc.
That’s why it’s the anti sniper, sniper rifle. You might have been a decent sniper before you fired this garbage, now you’ve got an eye patch and every time you go to the bar, some comedian plays, ‘when you’re in love with a beautiful woman’ by dr. Hook on the jukebox.😂
The other wee problem with the XM25 was that it was a shoulder-fired anti-personel weapon that fired a relatively small explosive projectile that could explode inside a person's body. This fell foul of the Hague Convention on exploding bullets for rifles, the likely reason for it being quietly dropped even though troops on the ground found it effective. The QLU-11 is not a shoulder-fired weapon, has a big projectile, and is primarily anti-materiel, so dodges around the legal issues in a plausible way.
@@SummonNotionIt is fired from the shoulder and the barrel has rifling. So it is a rifle by definition or in other words a gun. Also the projectiles are less than 400 grams, using exploding ammunition under 400g in war has been illegal since the late 1800s.
It is fired from the shoulder and the barrel has rifling. So it is a rifle by definition or in other words a gun. Also the projectiles are less than 400 grams, using exploding ammunition under 400g in war has been illegal since the late 1800s. Using the QLU-11 in War is straight up a war crime. You might say, "But it's anti material not anti personal" To that I say, Do you really think the soldiers on the ground will only use them as anti material rifles and not directly on enemy solders. Consider, the 50. cal bullet was design initially for use on aircraft to shoot other aircraft, then it started to be used as anti material rifles for lightly/non armored vehicles and for shooting through cover, now it is commonly used in sniper rifles. The US did almost adopted the xm-29 for both anti-material and anti-personal roles but, it was dropped because someone realized or pointed out that the projectiles are less than 400g and exploded, so the use of it in war is illegal so it wasn't adopted.
I just don't see a use case where an rpg isn't an equal or better weapon, it's a long range direct fire area weapon, just fire a rocket. Afaik the only advantage over an RPG is more spare shots, but lethality difference is going to be vast and Chinese soldiers aren't exactly expected to have a long lifespan in combat attacking Taiwan or over the Himalayas.
@@GeneralAdvance there are plenty of advantages over an RPG: more shots as you mentioned, faster follow up shots, longer range, less dangerous (no backblast), higher precision, harder to point in the source of fire.
@@seanforsythe78 Also really small round that you practically have to hit a guy with to do any damage. Completely underwriting. Meanwhile, a Gustaf can kill a whole squad from 1km away
@@theimmortal4718 of course a rocket is going to be more effective. You know what's even more effective at taking out a group of targets, a 500 pound jdam, but that's not the point of a payload rifle. It's a specialty weapon for a specialty situation, similar to a sniper.
@@seanforsythe78 There's just too many other solutions. A FPV drone for a few hundred dollars, for instance. The weight of this gun is 28 pounds, and each round is a pound. The tripod is necessary for anything long range, and that's a 23 pound monstrosity. The total package with 40 rounds is about 90 pounds. Or you could fire a 6 pound loitering munition like the switchblade 300 that can do the same thing at 6 miles without giving away your position
Lmao yes. I think the concept is still good, just needs more refinement. Perhaps a damping system like the lynx would be necessary, or just make the scope a wireless headset. This would even allow the user to shoot from behind a corner
@@de0509Yes but the lynx hydraulic dampening system makes the gun fire slowly and for some reason the Chinese wanted this thing to be able to fire in automatic and in quick bursts.
Someone in Chinese defense circles did a playthrough of Mass Effect 3 as an Infiltrator with the Explosive Ammo evolution for Incendiary Ammo and thought, "Hey, this would be a cool weapon in real life."
ME1 did it better imo. I modded a high damage sniper rifle with damage mods and explosive ammo for the same effect. 1 shot would overheat it, but it wasn't meant for a high rate of fire
No i think warhammer 40k has way more fans in the Chinese military industry and defense circles than Mass Effect do. I actually know some of them, they would never admit that on media but they are really big fan
This could actually be an extremely effective and economical anti-personnel weapon if done correctly, The increased accuracy of a marksman firing an explosive from a makeshift sniper rifle might lead to a reduction in the need to manufacture artillery shells while maintaining or increasing the kill/wound ratio that anti-personel artillery does. You can even use this to take out high-profile targets or ammo dumps with high accuracy and have the element of surprise since you wouldn't have as large of a force firing a barrage of mortars at the enemy, you could have 1 or 2 sneak up to or behind enemy lines with this and they could flea after firing more effectively since they'll already start from further away and/or in cover.
@@wilfdarrIt doesn't seem practical for how American combat doctrine functions as the US Military attempts to minimize casualties. However for the PLA who accept and allow casualties while deploying as much men possible, this weapon can be a very effective tool of war. Americans gotta step their game up, but then again drones are also pretty effective
@@hungedteddy7971 In theory yes, but in actuality, no. Take their UN mission in South Sudan in 2016, where they refused to take any risk while UN aid workers were being... targeted. What China says and what China does are often diametrically opposite.
Ok... Gotta admit, that's pretty sick. Kinda cool how they gave the US a little shout out in the development history of the rifle considering they definitely didn't have to. Looks like a seriously capable system, especially the round itself. That in a remote controlled turret could cause all kinds of hell.
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IMHO, it does fullfil several roles passably well - as mentioned in the video - with a relatively simple, low-cost solution. It is direct fire - no waiting for the strike to come in - and holds any vehicle less armored than an IFV at risk, can punch through walls and so on. It seems to provide a lot of applications that a squad might encounter without that squad needing additional support from other elements. And grunts can get very creative in the thick of things, having more options to solve current local problems by direct intervention sure is not going to hurt the squads effectiveness.
@@minhducnguyen9276 True. I guess it all about doctrine and availability of support. E.g. US special forces tend to have quite expensive anti-tank because during covert operations, they can't just call in an air strike. In open fields like eastern Europe it might also not be that viable. But thinking of jungle terrain of South America or mountain and hill fighting, it might have quite the utility.
@@tripod222 I guess it also depends on the type of threats you are gonna face and the terrain. If you are not expecting heavy armor you can just leave the atgm at base and bring these instead since it's more versatile. And if you are in urban combat where dedicated marksmen don't have a range advantage over your GL teams then you can replace your marksman with this weapon as it can also clear machine gun nests from a distance instead of only suppressing them.
@@minhducnguyen9276 And more realistically, one soldier carries an AT-4 and the other soldier carries a common grenade launcher, they can still carry their personal weapons, pistol, rifle, ammunition and grenades. Ready for any situation.
@@noticiasucrania2023 And you can carry more ammunition this way so the economy checked out. Not to mention while it's called a sniper grenade launcher in the video it's more like a machine gun since it can actually fire in automatic mode and the gun crews actually travel with the unit unlike sniper teams who work alone.
Seems like a pretty useful weapon in the right situations. These situations may not be the most common, but I see no particular reason not to have some around for any military that expect to encounter long range combats some times. It's not even an ammo problem as it can use the same ammo as other weapon types. It's also kind of good for longer deployments as it makes each round a bit more effective and longer range.
I was on board with the concept until I saw 10:31. The trajectory is no different from a standard 40mm LV. At that point you might as well just use a regular grenade launcher.
I see it having potential. It's basically a small portable anti-light vehicle and material weapon. It can penetrate up to 70-75mm of steel. So if your squad comes across an IFV or any other light-armored vehicles, it will have no trouble destroying it by launching a couple of them at the vehicle. This weapon is currently exported to some Middle East special operations forces and there's pictures of them being used by operators. Better than carrying around a heavy rocket launcher when you're only expected to face light vehicles and buildings.
The reason we stopped using the xm 25 was that even tho the guys on the ground loved it we realized it was a war crime so idk what china has changed to make it not, larger shells perhaps, because the rounds the xm shot where small enough to be considered exploding bullets not grandes
Not sure China really cares. They aren't a liberal country committed to limiting civilian casualties. The world is dependent on Chinese manufacturing. If they make a move on Taiwan, anyone who could impose sanctions for war crimes will have already sanctioned them for invading. Like with Russia with their barrel bombs in Syria... The real question is what's the rest of the world going to do about it? The answer is nothing of significance.
I was a big fan of the M79 single shot grenade launcher. There were only 3 rounds available at the time I carried one. HE, Illumination and fleshette. As a corpsman with limited training with accuracy my role with the M79 was limited to defense of injured at close range where the fleshette round was extremely effective. If the other two rounds were to be used I would hand off the weapon to another member of the unit. I believe it stayed in inventory for such a long period is because it was light, had a simple design (making it cheap & reliable) and required limited training for effective application. A sniper version of a grenade launcher is not light weight, has a more complex design and requires much more training for effective application. I believe that this is why it not common outside of special operations.
Not sure why people are knocking this. This one weapon would give a squad the ability to take out an entire APC or IFV platoon from range. I mean... A 40MM at 1100 yards? Especially considering the different types of ammunition available to the 40MM. Hell for Marines or Airborne this would give "light infantry" the ability to punch above their weight class for MANY targets. This really is a good concept and I wish we had something like this. I mean seriously. Having this on overwatch or for an extended patrol or reconnaissance in force, this idea is perfect. Even against MBTs (older ones), this can be effective for engine shots and even modern MBTs, this can be used to remove sensor equipment and effectively blinding the tank crew....at range. I mean, the Airborne has been crying for the ability to give their light infantry a heavier punch.....
We use the Carl Gustaf for this. Can fire HE, HEDP, airburst, rocket assisted rounds, HEAT, smoke, illumination, and incendiary. Way more flexible. We have 2 per platoon. We can kill everything from drones, troops, armored vehicles, and bunkers with it. It's the ultimate Swiss army knife, and the newly issued one is 15 pounds empty. That's half the weight of this weapon
It’s an extra long range anti personnel weapon that can kinda do anti armor and material work. The airborne already have dedicated stuff that can do kinda a little of something else.
@@theimmortal4718 cappy said it was an anti armor supplement so it would be in addition to regular dedicated anti armor. it's the same thing as a mk 19 with anti armor capabilities but has increased range with more precision.
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All jokes aside this seems like it can be an extremely effective weapons system. Especially against light armored vehicles. Also would make a great anti material weapon. If I were building an army I could see this being in it.
We used Mk-19s when we first got to Iraq. It was literally never the answer. The video had a part that goes into why it might work for China, but I just don't see it. The guy that has to carry this is going to have to be a bear of a man, and his role is going to be limited much of the fighting when that is the weapon he has. I am not sure if it is in the video, but it is 28 pounds alone, 51 with tripod, and that does not include ammo.
@@macgyvervanschwartzenstall4662 Yeah, I get you. I don't think it'll be as effective while assaulting, but imo in a hardened defensive position, it can really come into its own. My bro used a mk-19 to single handedly defend a bridge against isis was used to send car bombs over to over run his position and they eventually gave up. He had the whole bridge marked and took them out until the bridge was blocked by burnt out chassis and it became impossible for the terrorist to move them.
@@macgyvervanschwartzenstall4662 I disagree. Firstly, there isn’t one guy who has to mule this. One soldier will carry the QLU-11, and any additional pieces like the bipod become a team effort. A small team ends up muling the QLU-11. You won’t have one guy carrying the weapon system, bipod, and all its ammo by himself. So weight isn’t a problem. Soldiers who have their MOS as machinegunners have carried much heavier than 20 to 50lbs. While the MK-19 is an incredible weapon system, any of its disparities may not translate well to the QLU-11 accurately. For one, the grenade sniper rifle has much more range than the MK-19. The MK-19 is a monster at suppressive fire, and more so when mounted onto vehicle platforms like transport. It can be out ranged by certain small arms, so I can see its usage in open areas with little cover as dicey, but if it has high ground over a village, I don’t see how it’s an unwanted or ineffective system. But back to the QLU-11. I don’t see it being an offensive weapon system. I’d definitely expect for the PLA to either have it already be fixed into defensible positions, or to be in the back lines. Having it on the front is just a recipe for trouble, and wouldn’t be utilizing its intended purpose well. But I can see it giving China an unparalleled advantage if used correctly. For example, along China’s Indian border. There are many ravines and mountains. Having QLU-11s stationed atop high ground, overlooking a ravine could seriously impede enemy infantry. You have the advantage of a long range precision rifle, but no ballistic drawbacks. Not saying a marksman should ignore important aspects that go into this, such as wind, distance, drop, etc, but the very nature of this weapon does not call for a direct hit on an enemy. In fact, with its explosive payload, it could do well in eliminating multiple enemies in one grenade. All in all, I believe it’s an amazing system in theory, and practice, and we’ll have to wait and see how it fairs in combat truly. It’s definitely not a weapon system you’ll lug to the front, and one you’ll want prefixed before combat, or to set up in a backline. A long ranged weapon system that delivers an explosive payload for anti-infantry or even light vehicles isn’t a half bad idea.
@@herrfantastisch7489 I guess you are a Marine, as the Army doesn't have a machine gun MOS. Why would the US plan to fight a war in Tibet? You want there to be a new MOS for a weapon based on fighting in a region of a country with virtually no strategic importance. It is a fantasy. We already have something that does all things you mentioned, and they are simpler and cheaper
@@macgyvervanschwartzenstall4662 Oh no, I’m no Marine, and I’d never pretend to be one. I have a great respect for people who serve, especially Americans, since you guys seem to be the most active around the world. I apologize if I implied I served at all. I don’t believe the US or its allies need to follow suit and create a weapon similar to China. I wouldn’t say it’s an impossibility that the US would never step foot into a place like Tibet. But for sure, China will likely see fighting in areas like that since it’s in or close to their territory. I was just pointing out some of the merit and use China could get out of that weapon system. They have their own challenges and interests, and it’s pretty neat to see how different militaries operate to fulfill their needs. I don’t think the US needs a weapon like the QLU-11 in its arsenal, at least not yet. But other countries could benefit from it. And also for the fact the QLU-11 dances on the blurred legality line. Western countries would probably be slow to adopt it even if they wanted something like it, because it’s already a crime to hit someone with a grenade directly. Essentially a sniper rifle grenade launcher would probably have a lot of freak accidents of directly hitting a combatant and blowing up instead of hitting near them. But then there’s the loophole of “I was aiming for his gear” lol.
That actually sounds like an awesome idea. I reckon the ability to land a well placed grenade somewhere, in a man portable package would add so much to combat capabilities.
The US almost adopted the XM29 (similar smart grande launcher) in the early 2000s but realized that it is illegal to use in war, becuase the projectiles weight less than 400 grams and explode which has been illegal in war since the late 1800's China's QLU-11 also fires a projectile that weighs less than 400g and explodes their for the use of it in war is illegal.
It was because XM25 caliber is too small so it’s a sniper rifle which fires dumdums and it violates Geneva conventions. The Chinese one caliber is big enough to be categorized as a grenade launcher.
Its actually not nearly as bad as you think. the rubber scope ring is ribbed so it collapses when recoil to the eye is made but the most jarring part is the air that rushes near your eyes. look at the rpg 7 for example.
I think one of the biggest advantages to such a system is that due to the explosive nature of the ammo, the required precision shooting skill necessary is much lower for the shooter. Combined with a scope that handles the harder work for making a long range shot, it’s pretty clear that the goal of the weapon system is to allow any average soldier to serve effectively at long range precision, as opposed to having to train more extensively or select the best shooter of a section to serve in the role. This allows them to field the weapon a lot more than a traditional sniper system would be elsewhere.
The reason why we stopped using the XM25 was because it violated Rule 78 of the Geneva Convenion on exploding bullets. The rule even specifies rather exactly what can be classified as an explosive bullet
I wouldn't expect indirect weapons to be very effective in the mountains. This might be just the right compromise between something like an rpg and a normal rifle.
Ian reviewed a 20mm shoulder-fired auto-cannon that’s really awesome. It’s not in production, but he met w/ the designer in South Africa, and frankly, it should be in production. It’s a direct fire, long recoil compact design (bull pup I think) It’s called the PAW if I remember correctly.
This is notionally very similar to our limited use of the XM25 when we trialled that weapon system. You mention the use of normal grenade launchers and mortars as a reason we ultimately didn't go with it, but a crucial difference was that those 25mm grenade was largely meant to mitigate collateral damage and allow us a similar capability into a space where there was a high likelihood those weapons with larger areas of effect could harm civilians and structures near to the enemy, while also mitigating the range disadvantage M4s had against AK's. When your weapon hits a target at sniper rifle ranges with a 2.5 ft pie plate it doesn't need to be as precise or accurate as a conventional rifle used for sniping.
Xm25 was killed by other arms manufacturers who were look at a system that was going to impact their sales of more expensive ammunition! 😊 Corporate Greed over solders welfare!
This is incredibly smart especially with the changes in modern warfare. Our tactics and even Russia and others use heavy armor... which its clear now is no longer effective... in fact its a total weakness. Same thing with missile tech. War has returned to lower tech personnel based fighting and this is a huge advantage as an anti personnel weapon! This is not a launcher... this is a grenade gun. Good show! ML and Blessings all!
in an attractional war logistics is everything, I bet alot of ukrainians wish they had something like this now that Javelins and even RPGs are starting to run out of stock.
If american made that gun...they would say "because we can😎" If other country made that gun(specifically american's enemies) They would say "thats so extra"... 😂😂
In ww1 they would use vickers machine guns firing high in the air to rain down bullets into dead ground. they would just chug away, showering anything hiding back there with lead. Since a vickers can fire for days, probably weeks without stopping, it must have been terrifying to be those poor early war horse cavalry who historically were pretty safe in a fold of dead ground, suddenly learning how technology marches on.
That would be pretty hard to imagine. To take cover in a trench or foxhole, thinking you're safe from direct line of fire, only to get caught in a lead hailstorm.
That's a myth. highly unlikely because you will need amount of ammos too high that is impossible to be carried by any battalions in ww1 to get the job done.
@@Anino_Makata Yeah, and there were fewer squad level direct fire weapons like mortars at that time, so it was likely a very nasty shock. Nowadays dead ground is much less important tactically because o better maps, drone recon, and tons of unit level indirect fire weapons as well as the ability to call in precision arty and air strikes, of course.
In ww1 armored cars and tanks used machine guns for short range and 35mm for long range. Field artillery ended cavalry in the 100-5000 m range since 1870
@@hughmungus2760 what happened was basically hk claimed the weapon was a warcrime and wanted the us government to basically create a certification that it wasnt going to be used against people. The us government said no. Hk stopped producing the weapon. The us government decided that it was too much of a hassle and cancelled the entire project.
@@thomaszhang3101 “The soldiers reported that the weapon was extremely effective at killing or neutralizing enemy combatants firing on US troops from covered positions. US troops nicknamed the weapon, "The Punisher."[19] First contact was on 3 December 2010. As of February 2011, the weapon had been fired 55 times in nine engagements by two units in different locations. It had disrupted two insurgent attacks on observation posts, destroyed two PKM machine gun positions, and destroyed four ambush sites. In one engagement, an enemy machine gunner was wounded by, or so frightened of, the XM25 that he dropped his weapon and ran away. The units with the XM25s had no casualties during the nine engagements. The weapon was called "revolutionary" and "a game-changer."” From wikipedia. Not the best source but still, the xm25 was literally the best weapon ever made
One platoon leader commented that engagements that would normally take 15 to 20 minutes were over in just a few minutes. They performed flawlessly with no maintenance problems. Soldiers were so pleased that they carried it as their primary weapon without carrying an M4 carbine as a secondary. There were no complaints about its weight, but improvements to the battery life and a range increase to 1,000 meters were sought. Each round was hand built at a cost of $1,000.[20]
@bluedemon9985 I've heard various accounts. Some called it the Punisher because it was so effective, others I have spoken to personally were not a fan. I wonder how effective an entire squad of these would be, with MP7s for backup instead of pistols. Never heard the bit about HK calling the gun a warcrime, seems weird for a gun manufacturer to do so.
Anything Norinco makes has a short lifespan. Personal experience, I purchased a M14 clone. The op rod was wiggling out laterally within the first several magazines. Picked up my M1A from Springfield Armory, and that op rod and assembly lasted a cool 5,000 rounds before I sold her. Norinco uses injection-molded / cast metal parts, rather than forged or milled metal. It's crap. Your presentation was wonderfully done, nonetheless. Keep'em coming, Spare Parts 7 out.
Well, Norinco dont make anything, they just export products made by various factories across China. Civillian and military grade weapon are made with very different quality standerd, which is why their M14 can be pretty bad, because its only made for civillian market at low cost. Some of their AK is very good tho, and the used one can cost more than many brand new AKs, because they were originally made for PLA, but later converted to semi auto for civillian market, but U.S banned import on those AK, because they can be easily converted back to full auto AK, those AKs are much better built than most civillian grade AKs.
Norinco has variety of quality level for different price range, you get what you pay for, Chinese products are not exception. Chinese labor is relatively cheaper than some developed countries, but even consider that, in any territory 99% of time you should never expect to have similar quality for less than half the price, that is simply not how business works. China does make quality products, but that is based on buyer's will and the target market, typical western business people ONLY seek THE cheapest possible product from us because that what your market need the most, walk around Yiwu for 30 seconds and you will see what I mean. Speaking of guns, Norinco also got good and bad one, type 97 gen 1 is meh, gen 2 is ok, gen 3 is pretty good for the price, Type 81 is awesome, I never like CQA but it was still one of the useble AR for such a price, NP22 is dogshit, the M305 I tried was pretty rough but does shoot OK.
I can see how this concept will be terrifying when applied to drones. Just imagine a relatively large helicopter drone very high up with one of these looking directly downwards.
@supremecaffeine2633 and that videos from the state media taken out of context. Pla is more than comfortable showing that video to the generally public. That should tell you something
Reminds me of how Soviet platoons could use the Dragunov DMR in place of a machine gun for suppressing enemy positions. Maybe fewer accurate grenades can get a similar effect to an automatic launcher with less weight and ammo.
Lets agree on the fact that both US and China are both amazing countries. China influenced the far east for the last 20 centuries and US have been the real boss of the entire world after WWII. They have their imperfections, and differences. Im from China and I love my country. Very often I dislike US, but the people in US, the ones I see in life here in China and the ones I see on internet show me that we are just same people trying to bring joy to family. Respect to all the good men in US, despite our tension I hope the people in both countries try to understand each other.
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see it as skyscraper weapon like in hong kong ...
Omg I've seen that M&M on TV for years, now they're on RUclips. Its official, YT is better then TV
You got to be kidding me .... i have seen those mountain bunkers , it only has a small opening for barell and sight .... these wepon system with leaser and programmable ammo .... damn ITBP is fucked ...
hooahh@@skylosfoxtrot2350
"Fire a warning shot."
"Sir, this is a grenade-launching sniper rifle."
"Fire it anyway."
They use loud speaker to warn
the lethal zone is 1m (~1 yard in burger unit) and the injury zone is likely several times of that
so a shot around 10-20m near the enemy could work as a warning shot
"Sir, they are not responding to the warning shot... oh wait.. ohhh"
It's a dire warning.
"But sir, what about collateral damage?"
"Ahh potato potahtoe Patterson, fire that rifle!"
Sniper: “Dear *insert name here*”
Grenade launcher: “to whom it may concern”
Sniper grenade launcher: “as per my last email”
I hope this email finds you before I do…..
"To whom it will concern"
Nuclear weapon: This is public service announcement......
Galactus: *casually holds Earth* "Tasty-looking Planet."~
False Vacuum Decay Bomb: *And God descended from Heaven, and said:*
I would never ask _why_ about this. "Massive Sniper Grenade Launcher" is one of the most beautiful phrases I've ever read.
MSGL
Some Chinese romance I guess ? :)
if you fire a warning ahot, aim exactly 12 o clock. Safe if you want not to hurt the enemy.😅
@@molen_ monosodium glutamate launcher
Everyday we are getting closer to Warhammer 40k bolter
The Emperor Protects.
Well this is basically a bolter. But like cappy said, good luck firing this from shoulder
@@leoli2450 That's why the bolters are only for Astartes lol
@@channingtaintum nah, there are smaller ones for regular humans without power armor but those are also weaker
Lol
Officer: Sir our sniper cannot aim properly
Genral :hmmmm
Generals don't deal with snipers thats a captains job
@@mu0FFpu0FF and nuking jokes is yours, apparently
"Simple solutions for simple problems."
" 'Simple' ?!"
*"Did I stutter?"*
@@mu0FFpu0FFGood grief, he was making a joke. Don't you recognize humor?
@Nik-xi2ri no generals deal with chicken, General Tso's to be exact
Accurate by precision?
Accuracy by volume?
ACCURACY BY EXPLOSION!!!!!!
Smart Chinese nobody in the world have this,only in China,technology maybe better then USA,granete luncher with that accurate,precision and reach first see something like that just smart people
@biljanaovujovic1759 I do appreciate your Chinese English. 😂 (just finding it funny I can instantly recognize you are Asian by the way you speak.)
The US actually had this type of grenade launcher, but they scrapped it I think because of "Geneva Convention". If a grenade does not explode and gets stuck in a body, it might kill medical staff who are trying to save him.
With that said, I didn't understand lately why it can't just "be on a timer," but "explode on impact." Well, the Chinese have done it. Well done! I wouldn't be surprised if other countries follow suit soon too. I would not want to go up against that as an infrantry.
好笑
@@millanferende6723 It was called the XM25 and it was a semi automatic magazine fed 25mm grenade launcher. Pretty much a rifle configuration. It could be detonated in direct impact or airburst in order to hit enemies with indirect fire. It had an effective pinpoint fire range of 500M and an AOE effective range of 700M
It appeared in the video game Modern Warfare 3 in 2011.
@@biljanaovujovic1759 Except America literally had this in the 90's and scrapped it.
Even the PLA said that they took it from them, actually citing their sources instead of stealing them.
Pretty cool sniper rifle. China over here making a Warhammer 40k gun.
You call that DAKKA!?!
@@Stop_Gooningbolter
@@rainforcer1 shoota
Norinco has made a whole bunch of weird things, the likes you only see in video games. and in Norinco.
south africans already made it ages ago, it's called the neopup paw-20, forgotten weapons has a video on it. Thing is cool af
I need this in Squad, NOW.
Frfr, tired of using rpg on windows
No
Bro I was thinking the same thing lol
See the Krysae sniper in Mass Effect 3
Arma 3, too!
if you ever played Battlefield spamming with grenades launchers, you will know this is the most practical weapon
I like this game.
Nah, it ruined Battlefield for like every OG. A little kid gun "power-up" style
I never knew the XM25 Airburst was based on a real concept, pretty cool honestly
Quake...
it's already in the game?
Any other StarCraft fans here?? This reminded me of the C-10 canister rifle used by the Ghosts. If you don't know, it's basically a souped-up sniper rifle that shoots 25mm antipersonnel explosive rounds. Thanks for another great one btw, Chris!
NUCLEAR LAUCH DETECTED
Me
Batlefield series are a lot more real than whatever is that game. 😂
I used to mix them into bunkers in SC1 for their extended attack range. Still need marines, turrets, and siege tanks but they were great for AA.
Good old times
As the famous author Lu Xun once wrote, “The first person to eat crab is very much to be admired.” Ever since, the phrase “the first person to eat crab” has been used in China to describe brave and enterprising individuals.
I know Lu Xun and love his work, but I never heard this before. What is the phrase in chinese?
@@JustThatOneRandomGuy 第一个吃螃蟹的人是勇士
@@JustThatOneRandomGuyThis is a Chinese meme, and you can say that any meme comes from the mouth of Lu Xun, even though he has been dead for decades
@@tomli9793 lol is it a mainland thing cause I never heard anything like that I’m taiwan 😂
@@JustThatOneRandomGuyI mean just look at crabs. If no one has ever eaten them and told us that crabs are really delicious, who would think that this ugly looking creature with terrifying claws is edible.😂
"Why have a sniper grenade launcher in the place?"
Sir, this is America. I'm disappointed we *don't* have our own.
You kinda did, but it was kinda stupid so you stopped development.
If this shows more promise, then America will make a better version of it.
America needs to copy the Chinese copy for once and this is it.
@@geronimo5537 nah US is ok with just having an AC-130 flying around raining 20mm, 40mm, and 105mm rounds.
The AC-130 is useless in a near-peer conflict, as much as it is beautiful, it'll me shot down by MANPADS way before it gets near a firing position.@@ajrey8457
@@matasa7463 they stopped development cause it was kind of a war crime
"Sniper and grenade launcher dont go in the same sentence"
The soldier used the automatic grenade launcher to supress the sniper.
A typical grenade launcher range is 400meters. Most likely not reach the sniper
@@tiberianexcalibur thats for handheld launchers only
automatic grenade launchers can shoot out as far as 2200 meters
of course at the cost of accuracy, but a rain of grenades should be enough for supression
The look on your face when the snipe you are tasked with eliminating with your grenade launching anti sniper sniper rifle with a 1,000 meter range smiles at you from 1,200 yards away. 😢
@@wastool snipers can reposition, yk.
Edit: i glossed over the fact that you said yards... 97 metres difference. All the sniper needs to do is aim sligthly higher.
@@wastool There's not as much distance between 1KM and 1.2K yrds as you seem to think
"A mule that hates you personallly ". Best ever
It had an extended rubber grommet on the scope im not sure on its range but a 50 cal explosive round will do the same thing when fired at a wall and some shotgun systems fire smart flechette rounds up to a 150 yards using air burst and room clearing fragments . It's not something you want blowing up on you but neithers a 50 cal .
I don't know about the western media, but in Chinese media a lot of people say :
"Americans create the idea, we accomplish it"
at least it shows that the money the CIA stole from Congress has a practical use, unlike the Navy costs thousands of dollars to buy a coffee cup🤣
lmao. Owning all that IP theft instead of being ashamed is one way to do it.
They are not wrong.
Idea is easy, almost all people have ideas. The difference though is who makes it work.
@@Uzumaki.9 as if every greater country doesn't spy on it's adversaries already
I don't need it...
I don't need it...
I don't need it...
I dOn'T nEeD iT!...
I NEED IT!!! 😭
Yeah itll fall apart in a week. Dont get it from china
Try ask Saudi dude... Maybe... there's a possibility... that someone just can afford dump crap and Chinese is the only supplier can spare their capacity for such peoples beside their mass producing. @@cameronspence4977
@@cameronspence4977 tbf Norinco is a state owned military contractor that predates China becoming the world factory of cheap junk. From what I read many of the pre-ban Norinco imports are pretty well made.
@cameronspence4977 that's how my 250cc motorcycle was like 😢🤦🏾♂️😭😭😭😭
@@cameronspence4977ok but still… COMMON
Sounds like something I drew up as a five year old.
Someone must have leaked your drawings.
You draw this good when you was 5 years old?
Right, like you knew what a Grenade launcher or sniper rifle was when you were 5 😑
@@theoutlawking9123 'Murica
@@theoutlawking9123 It's not exactly all that unlikely. Lots of kids play video games featuring all sorts of firearms.
in most sniper movies ,one just waiting another show up behind the wall,when you got this ,you don't need to wait anymore🤣
“你和你的掩体一起去见上帝”
Glad you talked about the recoil. Watching those slow mo shots makes a .50 look tame. Also "If you believe what the Chinese say" should be just permanently on screen at this point.
Nah, don't want to get screen burn-in
Have it bouncing around the screen like those old screen savers.
The US lies harder than China though. If nothing for the simple fact they must constantly justify invading other peoples land under the pretense of world policing
why do u think america always says china lies lol
there should be a full disclaimer at the beginning that all of this is based on if it does what the CPP says it does
Dead space definitely is a tactical challenge! Those space Zombies are scary 😢
You'd need this gun in dead space.
Stross just needs a screwdriver...
@@1983pety Yeah, and the dudes got like a 3:1 KD. He killed his wife, his daughter, and an eyeball. People on battlefield would be dying for those ratios.
@@rivenarchon333 I remember he was seeing his dead son. Luckily Ellie got a new eyeball by DS3
14:10 Sarcasm aside, the precision to hit a moving small target in the water is incredible.
Not to mention, from an unstable platform.. i.e a ship rocking in the sea...
They shoot from helicopter
It's kinda like casting a net on a moving whale....and unless you're in super rough seas...a moving cargo ship is relatively stable.
那是从美国偷的！中国制造只会在手上时就爆炸！！！
@@francowu643 Which makes it even more impressive when you consider the helicopter is probably vibrating too.
US Army: We improve sniper accuracy at 1000m to 1 MOA. Chinese Army: We improve sniper blast radius to 10 feet 😂
China now has the most of the world's most accurate snipers.
still kills at 1meter+- off target@@iamend2609
@@iamend2609 source:ccp propagandist bots.
这把枪是对付碉堡的，可以把榴弹打进洞里
@@iamend2609that’s a lie
The LG5, which is a 40mm variant of the QLU-11, actually performed well during the Houthi-Saudi conflict. The Saudis used it during combat operations in Jizan. There are several issues that were also used by the Indonesian in the West Papua Conflict but I never got any footage to prove that they used or even acquired it. and because the LG5 is designed as a sniper grenade launcher. so it seems suitable for use in Urban Warfare. and for the 40mm version (LG5) there are various types of ammunition available, such as BGJ5 (HEDP), BGL3 high-explosive precision grenade, BGL3A programmable airburst grenade 40×53mm, BGH1 high-explosive incendiary grenade, 40×53mm BGR1 incendiary grenade, 40×53mm and BGS1 training grenade 40×53mm
I think ammunition variability is one of its strongest asset.
Interesting that they made it to where a NATO round could be used with it
Then they're able to sell it to more customers. @@fireraptor6670
@@fireraptor6670 When the largest and most aggressive military in the world is your beligerant opposition making your guns shoot their ammo is smart.
@@fireraptor6670 They are expecting Trump to help them invade Taiwan after he's done helping Putin handle Ukraine.
being able to place an accurate grenade at 1km sounds pretty attractive, especially in a fortified position
This weapon system is quite effective against hostiles positioned in the upper levels of a bunker
Thank God the Chinese didn't give the Taliban this weapon. Our HMMWVs, MRAPS, Strykers, Towers and almost every OP would be death traps.
@@urcompnioncube0213 Yeah right, thank god the Taliban also didn't have RPG, that weight less than the Chinese grenade sniper and achieve a bigger explosion, otherwise the US vehicles would have been in huge trouble.
Oh wait, they had those in crazy numbers, unguided RPGs aren't expensive and do the exact same thing, but more effectively. And yes, they can hit from more than a kilometer away.
@@gus808 1000 meters is aiming practically straight at the target since this is a direct fire weapon. I think its like 2000 or 3000 if you "arc" it like a mortar.
Then add in the smart rounds for desired effect and it becomes a nasty little postal service for hill to hill action.
@@gus808 I said practically not exactly 😅 a 40mm grenade at that speed needs like a peak arc of like what, 8-12 meters to reach the target?? Havent done much calculation like that and my math sucks but something like it??
Isn't that still within the range of a "direct fire weapon"??
“Why have a grenade launching sniper rifle…”
Well why not!?
indeed.
3:52 I could watch this on loop for hours.
3:48 This is actually similar to a concept in WW1 of very small artillery pieces (37-50mm) that were meant to deal with MG and sniper nests.
Field Guns is what they were commonly known as
37mm field gun was a tremendous part of the battle of the Tenaru in the PTO of WW2, where it was used to break up banzai charges and the like.
@@ireviewshtuff that was a larger more powerful AT gun, not a field gun
@@WynnofThule against the japanese US rarely brings AT guns as most of the japanese tanks are obsolete by the time US forces does island hopping. So the US actually used 37 mm field gun against both japanese tanks and infantries, with different ammunitions ofc.
Looked like the sight was smacking the hell outta the soldiers eye
That’s why it’s the anti sniper, sniper rifle. You might have been a decent sniper before you fired this garbage, now you’ve got an eye patch and every time you go to the bar, some comedian plays, ‘when you’re in love with a beautiful woman’ by dr. Hook on the jukebox.😂
Think of your shoulder the next day.
They need to call Morgan & Morgan
@@jasonn6306 bro should really become the new head of Morgan & Morgan advertisement team
Looked like the rubber absorbed a lot of the impact, should be fine.
The other wee problem with the XM25 was that it was a shoulder-fired anti-personel weapon that fired a relatively small explosive projectile that could explode inside a person's body. This fell foul of the Hague Convention on exploding bullets for rifles, the likely reason for it being quietly dropped even though troops on the ground found it effective. The QLU-11 is not a shoulder-fired weapon, has a big projectile, and is primarily anti-materiel, so dodges around the legal issues in a plausible way.
This is grenade launcher not。gun
yeah I heard they didn't feel it was usefull enough to risk the warcrimes
When has america ever, ever given a fuck about being accused of committing warcrimes?
@@SummonNotionIt is fired from the shoulder and the barrel has rifling. So it is a rifle by definition or in other words a gun. Also the projectiles are less than 400 grams, using exploding ammunition under 400g in war has been illegal since the late 1800s.
It is fired from the shoulder and the barrel has rifling. So it is a rifle by definition or in other words a gun. Also the projectiles are less than 400 grams, using exploding ammunition under 400g in war has been illegal since the late 1800s.
Using the QLU-11 in War is straight up a war crime.
You might say, "But it's anti material not anti personal"
To that I say, Do you really think the soldiers on the ground will only use them as anti material rifles and not directly on enemy solders.
Consider, the 50. cal bullet was design initially for use on aircraft to shoot other aircraft, then it started to be used as anti material rifles for lightly/non armored vehicles and for shooting through cover, now it is commonly used in sniper rifles.
The US did almost adopted the xm-29 for both anti-material and anti-personal roles but, it was dropped because someone realized or pointed out that the projectiles are less than 400g and exploded, so the use of it in war is illegal so it wasn't adopted.
ive always liked the concept of payload rifles. it feels like the natural progression from anti tank > anti material > payload.
I just don't see a use case where an rpg isn't an equal or better weapon, it's a long range direct fire area weapon, just fire a rocket.
Afaik the only advantage over an RPG is more spare shots, but lethality difference is going to be vast and Chinese soldiers aren't exactly expected to have a long lifespan in combat attacking Taiwan or over the Himalayas.
@@GeneralAdvance there are plenty of advantages over an RPG: more shots as you mentioned, faster follow up shots, longer range, less dangerous (no backblast), higher precision, harder to point in the source of fire.
@@seanforsythe78
Also really small round that you practically have to hit a guy with to do any damage. Completely underwriting.
Meanwhile, a Gustaf can kill a whole squad from 1km away
@@theimmortal4718 of course a rocket is going to be more effective. You know what's even more effective at taking out a group of targets, a 500 pound jdam, but that's not the point of a payload rifle. It's a specialty weapon for a specialty situation, similar to a sniper.
@@seanforsythe78
There's just too many other solutions. A FPV drone for a few hundred dollars, for instance. The weight of this gun is 28 pounds, and each round is a pound. The tripod is necessary for anything long range, and that's a 23 pound monstrosity.
The total package with 40 rounds is about 90 pounds.
Or you could fire a 6 pound loitering munition like the switchblade 300 that can do the same thing at 6 miles without giving away your position
"眼睛受傷與服兵役無關" Your missing eye is not service related. Love that recoil!
Best comment! 😂😂
Lmao yes. I think the concept is still good, just needs more refinement. Perhaps a damping system like the lynx would be necessary, or just make the scope a wireless headset. This would even allow the user to shoot from behind a corner
Chinese guy😂😂😂
Like the 50 cal sniper rifle
@@de0509Yes but the lynx hydraulic dampening system makes the gun fire slowly and for some reason the Chinese wanted this thing to be able to fire in automatic and in quick bursts.
Marksman rifles are getting more and more common in PLA squads, we now usually have 2 QBU191s in 1 squad
Someone in Chinese defense circles did a playthrough of Mass Effect 3 as an Infiltrator with the Explosive Ammo evolution for Incendiary Ammo and thought, "Hey, this would be a cool weapon in real life."
Except it's a Chinese knock off of mass effect so the ship is called the Xi7
It even sorta looks like the Widow
The qbz 95 design was a reference to the rifles in the AKIRA MANGA
ME1 did it better imo. I modded a high damage sniper rifle with damage mods and explosive ammo for the same effect. 1 shot would overheat it, but it wasn't meant for a high rate of fire
No i think warhammer 40k has way more fans in the Chinese military industry and defense circles than Mass Effect do. I actually know some of them, they would never admit that on media but they are really big fan
This could actually be an extremely effective and economical anti-personnel weapon if done correctly, The increased accuracy of a marksman firing an explosive from a makeshift sniper rifle might lead to a reduction in the need to manufacture artillery shells while maintaining or increasing the kill/wound ratio that anti-personel artillery does.
You can even use this to take out high-profile targets or ammo dumps with high accuracy and have the element of surprise since you wouldn't have as large of a force firing a barrage of mortars at the enemy, you could have 1 or 2 sneak up to or behind enemy lines with this and they could flea after firing more effectively since they'll already start from further away and/or in cover.
"If" is doing a lot of lifting there...
@@wilfdarrIt doesn't seem practical for how American combat doctrine functions as the US Military attempts to minimize casualties. However for the PLA who accept and allow casualties while deploying as much men possible, this weapon can be a very effective tool of war. Americans gotta step their game up, but then again drones are also pretty effective
@@hungedteddy7971 Incidentally, this weapon should be highly effective against drones with a proximity fused grenade.
@@hungedteddy7971 In theory yes, but in actuality, no. Take their UN mission in South Sudan in 2016, where they refused to take any risk while UN aid workers were being... targeted. What China says and what China does are often diametrically opposite.
Artillery is used over way bigger distance (10-35 km), it's only a replacement for antimaterial rifles and light mortars.
China, stop giving CoD more OP weapon ideas!
There is a weapon like this in cod mobile
Ok... Gotta admit, that's pretty sick. Kinda cool how they gave the US a little shout out in the development history of the rifle considering they definitely didn't have to. Looks like a seriously capable system, especially the round itself. That in a remote controlled turret could cause all kinds of hell.
We now have Bolter.
Now I want some power armor.
Bolter at home, more like
@@TVforyourCats Looks like a Stalker Bolter to me
Russian 6P62 is very closer to Bolter
Absolutely not, bolter is a rocket and gunpowder propelled small APHE round
This channel has the perfect mix between technical details, and a broader stroke with the pencil when painting the situation. The channel started fun but have grown up. Do not loose the fun.
IMHO, it does fullfil several roles passably well - as mentioned in the video - with a relatively simple, low-cost solution. It is direct fire - no waiting for the strike to come in - and holds any vehicle less armored than an IFV at risk, can punch through walls and so on. It seems to provide a lot of applications that a squad might encounter without that squad needing additional support from other elements. And grunts can get very creative in the thick of things, having more options to solve current local problems by direct intervention sure is not going to hurt the squads effectiveness.
But you need two guys to carry and operate this thing. That would change the composition of the units.
@@minhducnguyen9276 True. I guess it all about doctrine and availability of support. E.g. US special forces tend to have quite expensive anti-tank because during covert operations, they can't just call in an air strike. In open fields like eastern Europe it might also not be that viable. But thinking of jungle terrain of South America or mountain and hill fighting, it might have quite the utility.
@@tripod222 I guess it also depends on the type of threats you are gonna face and the terrain. If you are not expecting heavy armor you can just leave the atgm at base and bring these instead since it's more versatile. And if you are in urban combat where dedicated marksmen don't have a range advantage over your GL teams then you can replace your marksman with this weapon as it can also clear machine gun nests from a distance instead of only suppressing them.
@@minhducnguyen9276 And more realistically, one soldier carries an AT-4 and the other soldier carries a common grenade launcher, they can still carry their personal weapons, pistol, rifle, ammunition and grenades.
Ready for any situation.
@@noticiasucrania2023 And you can carry more ammunition this way so the economy checked out. Not to mention while it's called a sniper grenade launcher in the video it's more like a machine gun since it can actually fire in automatic mode and the gun crews actually travel with the unit unlike sniper teams who work alone.
better to have a grenade launching sniper and not need it, than to not have a grenade launching sniper rifle and need it
Was hoping a big channel would cover this weapon eventually 👍
Seems like a pretty useful weapon in the right situations. These situations may not be the most common, but I see no particular reason not to have some around for any military that expect to encounter long range combats some times. It's not even an ammo problem as it can use the same ammo as other weapon types. It's also kind of good for longer deployments as it makes each round a bit more effective and longer range.
I was on board with the concept until I saw 10:31. The trajectory is no different from a standard 40mm LV. At that point you might as well just use a regular grenade launcher.
I think it could be very viable as a ship mounted weapon, like a smaller one on a speed boat, like the houthis etc
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj Might as well remove all optics from assault rifles too while you're at it.
@@NeostormXLMAX You cannot shoot a sniper rifle from a speed boat. That is why none have them.
@@toolbaggers lol "assault rifle"
I see it having potential. It's basically a small portable anti-light vehicle and material weapon. It can penetrate up to 70-75mm of steel. So if your squad comes across an IFV or any other light-armored vehicles, it will have no trouble destroying it by launching a couple of them at the vehicle. This weapon is currently exported to some Middle East special operations forces and there's pictures of them being used by operators. Better than carrying around a heavy rocket launcher when you're only expected to face light vehicles and buildings.
I'd immagine this thing is alot more discreet than a rocket launcher, and being semi-auto, it can do correction shots if the first shot misses.
I served in Afghanistan 2 times and i shudder at the thought of WHAT IF the Chinese gave these to the Taliban.
Truly deed bro. Never count for the second shot.
@@urcompnioncube0213the taliban have them now although the americans left already 😂😂😂
@@urcompnioncube0213 Your average Humvee patrol will no longer be average. You may have to hold your breath every trip.
Welcome back, Cobra assault cannon from robocop
State of the art bang-bang!
The reason we stopped using the xm 25 was that even tho the guys on the ground loved it we realized it was a war crime so idk what china has changed to make it not, larger shells perhaps, because the rounds the xm shot where small enough to be considered exploding bullets not grandes
China could not care any less even so, they violate all international laws all the time
Weight specifically, any projectile under 400g is considered a explosive bullet not a grenade.
The USA goes around the world committing war crimes all the time.. that wasn't the reason.
Not sure China really cares. They aren't a liberal country committed to limiting civilian casualties. The world is dependent on Chinese manufacturing. If they make a move on Taiwan, anyone who could impose sanctions for war crimes will have already sanctioned them for invading.
Like with Russia with their barrel bombs in Syria... The real question is what's the rest of the world going to do about it? The answer is nothing of significance.
Eh, since when has that stopped the Canadians?
Sniper Bullet: Has your name written on it
Sniper Grenade: "To whom it may concern"
I was a big fan of the M79 single shot grenade launcher. There were only 3 rounds available at the time I carried one. HE, Illumination and fleshette. As a corpsman with limited training with accuracy my role with the M79 was limited to defense of injured at close range where the fleshette round was extremely effective. If the other two rounds were to be used I would hand off the weapon to another member of the unit. I believe it stayed in inventory for such a long period is because it was light, had a simple design (making it cheap & reliable) and required limited training for effective application. A sniper version of a grenade launcher is not light weight, has a more complex design and requires much more training for effective application. I believe that this is why it not common outside of special operations.
Not sure why people are knocking this. This one weapon would give a squad the ability to take out an entire APC or IFV platoon from range. I mean... A 40MM at 1100 yards? Especially considering the different types of ammunition available to the 40MM. Hell for Marines or Airborne this would give "light infantry" the ability to punch above their weight class for MANY targets. This really is a good concept and I wish we had something like this. I mean seriously. Having this on overwatch or for an extended patrol or reconnaissance in force, this idea is perfect. Even against MBTs (older ones), this can be effective for engine shots and even modern MBTs, this can be used to remove sensor equipment and effectively blinding the tank crew....at range. I mean, the Airborne has been crying for the ability to give their light infantry a heavier punch.....
We use the Carl Gustaf for this. Can fire HE, HEDP, airburst, rocket assisted rounds, HEAT, smoke, illumination, and incendiary. Way more flexible.
We have 2 per platoon.
We can kill everything from drones, troops, armored vehicles, and bunkers with it. It's the ultimate Swiss army knife, and the newly issued one is 15 pounds empty. That's half the weight of this weapon
It’s an extra long range anti personnel weapon that can kinda do anti armor and material work. The airborne already have dedicated stuff that can do kinda a little of something else.
@@m1garandMUSIC
I kinda doubt this would do much against armor at all. Id rather drop a four pound shell at long range than this
@@theimmortal4718 When they say 'anti-armor' then mean chucking it through an open Humvee door.
@@theimmortal4718 cappy said it was an anti armor supplement so it would be in addition to regular dedicated anti armor.
it's the same thing as a mk 19 with anti armor capabilities but has increased range with more precision.
There's a meme in Chinese internet: when your sniper rifle can't compensate for accuracy, just improve the explosive range...the result is same😂
40k inquisitor: "Do you guys want bolters?! Cuz that's how you get bolters!"
Toyota HiLux is pronounced High-Lux (It's an abreviation of High Luxury), not 'Heelix'. I own a D4D, twin cab 4x4 and live in Pretoria, and yes; they're awsome!
Also combat proven in Iraq and Syria!
Legendary truck! I tried really hard to buy a HiLux last year. The only similar vehicle we can get in North America is the Toyota Tacoma. It like a HiLux but with a little ruggedness traded away for creature comforts. Still, there’s no video of terrorist rebels going around in Tacoma Technicals. We can however get the Nissan Frontier here; a solid choice for budget minded insurgents worldwide, lol. 🇨🇦❤🇿🇦
Eng Lish it's Hi Lux and "I WOULD PAY!" Big! to get one in the USA! I "FING!" LUV the Hilux!! never knew why the name, but drove them in the lower America's
You are correct, good sir!
However, he mispronounces stuff to farm people for engagement -- which I don't mind because his content is great and it adds levity.😁
@@Train2noplace-v7n Can't you bring a left hand drive Hilux in from Mexico or further South?
The fact that this weapon exist first in real life than in video game is lit 😄
You mean like most guns in video games?
this is a bolter in 40k
3:52 that recoil seems strong enough to injure the shooter with the scope. Ouch.
And that's why the scope was packing extra rubber for safety
Yeah that looks like it hurts like a biotch and will end up causing most users to have a nasty flinch so they can't hit anything :D
@@leoli2450 Watch them flinching around the 7:30 when shooting it.
7:34 7:40
NGL id be afraid to fire this thing
i don’t even care if it’s not practical it’s so cool
I think it's already very powerful for a sniper to fight against armored vehicles.
i'm always excited when i see a new video from you in my feed!
All jokes aside this seems like it can be an extremely effective weapons system. Especially against light armored vehicles. Also would make a great anti material weapon. If I were building an army I could see this being in it.
We used Mk-19s when we first got to Iraq. It was literally never the answer. The video had a part that goes into why it might work for China, but I just don't see it. The guy that has to carry this is going to have to be a bear of a man, and his role is going to be limited much of the fighting when that is the weapon he has. I am not sure if it is in the video, but it is 28 pounds alone, 51 with tripod, and that does not include ammo.
@@macgyvervanschwartzenstall4662 Yeah, I get you. I don't think it'll be as effective while assaulting, but imo in a hardened defensive position, it can really come into its own. My bro used a mk-19 to single handedly defend a bridge against isis was used to send car bombs over to over run his position and they eventually gave up. He had the whole bridge marked and took them out until the bridge was blocked by burnt out chassis and it became impossible for the terrorist to move them.
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I disagree.
Firstly, there isn’t one guy who has to mule this. One soldier will carry the QLU-11, and any additional pieces like the bipod become a team effort. A small team ends up muling the QLU-11. You won’t have one guy carrying the weapon system, bipod, and all its ammo by himself. So weight isn’t a problem. Soldiers who have their MOS as machinegunners have carried much heavier than 20 to 50lbs.
While the MK-19 is an incredible weapon system, any of its disparities may not translate well to the QLU-11 accurately. For one, the grenade sniper rifle has much more range than the MK-19. The MK-19 is a monster at suppressive fire, and more so when mounted onto vehicle platforms like transport. It can be out ranged by certain small arms, so I can see its usage in open areas with little cover as dicey, but if it has high ground over a village, I don’t see how it’s an unwanted or ineffective system.
But back to the QLU-11. I don’t see it being an offensive weapon system. I’d definitely expect for the PLA to either have it already be fixed into defensible positions, or to be in the back lines. Having it on the front is just a recipe for trouble, and wouldn’t be utilizing its intended purpose well.
But I can see it giving China an unparalleled advantage if used correctly. For example, along China’s Indian border. There are many ravines and mountains. Having QLU-11s stationed atop high ground, overlooking a ravine could seriously impede enemy infantry. You have the advantage of a long range precision rifle, but no ballistic drawbacks. Not saying a marksman should ignore important aspects that go into this, such as wind, distance, drop, etc, but the very nature of this weapon does not call for a direct hit on an enemy. In fact, with its explosive payload, it could do well in eliminating multiple enemies in one grenade.
All in all, I believe it’s an amazing system in theory, and practice, and we’ll have to wait and see how it fairs in combat truly. It’s definitely not a weapon system you’ll lug to the front, and one you’ll want prefixed before combat, or to set up in a backline. A long ranged weapon system that delivers an explosive payload for anti-infantry or even light vehicles isn’t a half bad idea.
@@herrfantastisch7489 I guess you are a Marine, as the Army doesn't have a machine gun MOS. Why would the US plan to fight a war in Tibet? You want there to be a new MOS for a weapon based on fighting in a region of a country with virtually no strategic importance. It is a fantasy. We already have something that does all things you mentioned, and they are simpler and cheaper
@@macgyvervanschwartzenstall4662 Oh no, I’m no Marine, and I’d never pretend to be one. I have a great respect for people who serve, especially Americans, since you guys seem to be the most active around the world. I apologize if I implied I served at all.
I don’t believe the US or its allies need to follow suit and create a weapon similar to China. I wouldn’t say it’s an impossibility that the US would never step foot into a place like Tibet. But for sure, China will likely see fighting in areas like that since it’s in or close to their territory.
I was just pointing out some of the merit and use China could get out of that weapon system. They have their own challenges and interests, and it’s pretty neat to see how different militaries operate to fulfill their needs. I don’t think the US needs a weapon like the QLU-11 in its arsenal, at least not yet. But other countries could benefit from it.
And also for the fact the QLU-11 dances on the blurred legality line. Western countries would probably be slow to adopt it even if they wanted something like it, because it’s already a crime to hit someone with a grenade directly. Essentially a sniper rifle grenade launcher would probably have a lot of freak accidents of directly hitting a combatant and blowing up instead of hitting near them. But then there’s the loophole of “I was aiming for his gear” lol.
Never thought id say this about a Chinese gun, but i love it
If a war breaks out between China and the U.S, I can imagine Pentagon bringing this guy in as expert in Chinese military capabilities.
AMAZING CHINESE WEAPON, WONDERFULL COUNTRY. NO CRIMES, ORDER, NO DRUGS, ETC. LOVE CHINA! HERE A BRAZILIAN WITH DIXIELAND BLOOD! ❤
dude firing the mk19 at 1.23 has the expected facial expression of a dude firing a mk19
My thoughts exactly😁
That actually sounds like an awesome idea. I reckon the ability to land a well placed grenade somewhere, in a man portable package would add so much to combat capabilities.
The US almost adopted the XM29 (similar smart grande launcher) in the early 2000s but realized that it is illegal to use in war, becuase the projectiles weight less than 400 grams and explode which has been illegal in war since the late 1800's
China's QLU-11 also fires a projectile that weighs less than 400g and explodes their for the use of it in war is illegal.
I never thought, in all my life, I would see a "grenade launcher" and "sniper" in one sentence & firearm
Ideas..
Nah, thats not rare, what it's really strange is that americans didn't come out with this crazy and stupidly overpower idea first.
@@ScudForEver We did, see XM109 and XM29
I like your non-bias commentary
Out of character for him this time
Soldier - Sir, our grenade production capacity is lacking.
General - Have we tried grenade snipers?
I thought the US got rid of the XM25 when someone pointed out that it violated the Geneva Conventions.
Glad I'm not the only one who remembers that forgotten weapons video
It was because XM25 caliber is too small so it’s a sniper rifle which fires dumdums and it violates Geneva conventions. The Chinese one caliber is big enough to be categorized as a grenade launcher.
that did happen, but we put the XM25s system on our 40mm so that its not a warcrime, but it also is no longer a squad weapon
At 3:52, I like how the eyepiece slams into the operator's face.
And a piece of the gun gets launched away from it 😂
@@thebasedspectre3048 That is the empty cartridge case ejected, learn some basic knowledge before writing a comment
that's what the rubber on the scope is for
Its actually not nearly as bad as you think. the rubber scope ring is ribbed so it collapses when recoil to the eye is made but the most jarring part is the air that rushes near your eyes. look at the rpg 7 for example.
I think one of the biggest advantages to such a system is that due to the explosive nature of the ammo, the required precision shooting skill necessary is much lower for the shooter. Combined with a scope that handles the harder work for making a long range shot, it’s pretty clear that the goal of the weapon system is to allow any average soldier to serve effectively at long range precision, as opposed to having to train more extensively or select the best shooter of a section to serve in the role. This allows them to field the weapon a lot more than a traditional sniper system would be elsewhere.
03:52 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 the look on his face 😂😂😂😂😂 “MY FVKNG SHOULDER” 😂
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I’ve never heard of a sniper grenade launcher, but that is the coolest thing ever and I want one right now
I can't imagine a person becoming a success who doesn't give this game of life everything hes got.
It's pretty rare and cool to see this. i can see this having many useful uses, and it's my first time hearing something like this
The reason why we stopped using the XM25 was because it violated Rule 78 of the Geneva Convenion on exploding bullets. The rule even specifies rather exactly what can be classified as an explosive bullet
they should remove that rule its stupid
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I'm glad you aren't in any position to make such changes. 😐
@@WhoThisMonkey Oh yeah, much better to allow our enemies to use them against our soldiers with no way to counter it. Seriously, how dense are you?
Geneva Convention? More like Geneva Suggestion.
So exploding cannon rounds are ok but using similar principle grenades from xm25 is a warcrime? Source?
This seems incredibly useful
I wouldn't expect indirect weapons to be very effective in the mountains. This might be just the right compromise between something like an rpg and a normal rifle.
I can see this system working as an anti-sniper platform , but also as an anti-drone system working with air burst ammo.
Ian reviewed a 20mm shoulder-fired auto-cannon that’s really awesome. It’s not in production, but he met w/ the designer in South Africa, and frankly, it should be in production. It’s a direct fire, long recoil compact design (bull pup I think) It’s called the PAW if I remember correctly.
If Ian ever did a novel, it should be called "Fantastic Weapons And Where To Find Them"
Last time I was this early, Chang Kai-shek was in power!
Good one!
Just TiananmenSquare1989 about it
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U$ backed Military dictatorship of CKS ...
going by what wikipedia says the chinese 35mm is a war crime its projectile is to light, their 40mm version meets minimum weight requirement
This is notionally very similar to our limited use of the XM25 when we trialled that weapon system. You mention the use of normal grenade launchers and mortars as a reason we ultimately didn't go with it, but a crucial difference was that those 25mm grenade was largely meant to mitigate collateral damage and allow us a similar capability into a space where there was a high likelihood those weapons with larger areas of effect could harm civilians and structures near to the enemy, while also mitigating the range disadvantage M4s had against AK's. When your weapon hits a target at sniper rifle ranges with a 2.5 ft pie plate it doesn't need to be as precise or accurate as a conventional rifle used for sniping.
Xm25 was killed by other arms manufacturers who were look at a system that was going to impact their sales of more expensive ammunition! 😊 Corporate Greed over solders welfare!
美国人之所以不用这种武器系统，并不是因为会伤害平民和建筑，事实上曲射的榴弹枪一样会伤害平民和建筑，美国人用的也很频繁。之所以不用，可能是当时的技术不成熟，也有可能是因为害怕这种狙击枪流入枪支市场。想想看，如果上次的美国总统竞选集会上，狙击手使用的是这把枪，而不是羸弱的AR-15，那该是什么场景？
We do not quit playing because we grow old, we grow old because we quit playing.
This is incredibly smart especially with the changes in modern warfare. Our tactics and even Russia and others use heavy armor... which its clear now is no longer effective... in fact its a total weakness. Same thing with missile tech. War has returned to lower tech personnel based fighting and this is a huge advantage as an anti personnel weapon! This is not a launcher... this is a grenade gun. Good show! ML and Blessings all!
The future wars will be dominated by small AI Drones.
@@Naples-Florida Another "armor vs weapon" esk issue.
It'll be a constant fight between jamming tech and drone tech.
@@Naples-Florida Ironically this type of weapon would be good for taking out drones.
in an attractional war logistics is everything, I bet alot of ukrainians wish they had something like this now that Javelins and even RPGs are starting to run out of stock.
Soldier 1: Shoot!
Soldier 2: hold on, my ammo hasn't finished downloading.
"Damn, I had to watch that 2 minute unskipable ad first"
Timed fusing has been around a long time, it’s been in attack helicopters for over 50 years.
If american made that gun...they would say "because we can😎"
If other country made that gun(specifically american's enemies)
They would say "thats so extra"...
😂😂
In ww1 they would use vickers machine guns firing high in the air to rain down bullets into dead ground. they would just chug away, showering anything hiding back there with lead. Since a vickers can fire for days, probably weeks without stopping, it must have been terrifying to be those poor early war horse cavalry who historically were pretty safe in a fold of dead ground, suddenly learning how technology marches on.
That would be pretty hard to imagine. To take cover in a trench or foxhole, thinking you're safe from direct line of fire, only to get caught in a lead hailstorm.
That's a myth. highly unlikely because you will need amount of ammos too high that is impossible to be carried by any battalions in ww1 to get the job done.
@@Anino_Makata Yeah, and there were fewer squad level direct fire weapons like mortars at that time, so it was likely a very nasty shock. Nowadays dead ground is much less important tactically because o better maps, drone recon, and tons of unit level indirect fire weapons as well as the ability to call in precision arty and air strikes, of course.
In ww1 armored cars and tanks used machine guns for short range and 35mm for long range.
Field artillery ended cavalry in the 100-5000 m range since 1870
5:04 ouch
😂
yeah, that's what i thought...this can't feel good.
I would have thought they'd make a long recoil system to minimise the recoil, I thought wrong. 😁
how about 3:51 ? definately lost that eye :)))
Looks like firing a Lahti.
Emperor of mankind taking notes rn
We literally had the same thing until bureaucracy got in the way.
that and the geneva convention. something about 'exploding bullets' being illegal even though it was 25mm in calibre.
@@hughmungus2760 what happened was basically hk claimed the weapon was a warcrime and wanted the us government to basically create a certification that it wasnt going to be used against people. The us government said no. Hk stopped producing the weapon. The us government decided that it was too much of a hassle and cancelled the entire project.
@@thomaszhang3101 “The soldiers reported that the weapon was extremely effective at killing or neutralizing enemy combatants firing on US troops from covered positions. US troops nicknamed the weapon, "The Punisher."[19] First contact was on 3 December 2010. As of February 2011, the weapon had been fired 55 times in nine engagements by two units in different locations. It had disrupted two insurgent attacks on observation posts, destroyed two PKM machine gun positions, and destroyed four ambush sites. In one engagement, an enemy machine gunner was wounded by, or so frightened of, the XM25 that he dropped his weapon and ran away. The units with the XM25s had no casualties during the nine engagements. The weapon was called "revolutionary" and "a game-changer."” From wikipedia. Not the best source but still, the xm25 was literally the best weapon ever made
One platoon leader commented that engagements that would normally take 15 to 20 minutes were over in just a few minutes. They performed flawlessly with no maintenance problems. Soldiers were so pleased that they carried it as their primary weapon without carrying an M4 carbine as a secondary. There were no complaints about its weight, but improvements to the battery life and a range increase to 1,000 meters were sought. Each round was hand built at a cost of $1,000.[20]
@bluedemon9985 I've heard various accounts. Some called it the Punisher because it was so effective, others I have spoken to personally were not a fan.
I wonder how effective an entire squad of these would be, with MP7s for backup instead of pistols.
Never heard the bit about HK calling the gun a warcrime, seems weird for a gun manufacturer to do so.
Anything Norinco makes has a short lifespan.
Personal experience, I purchased a M14 clone. The op rod was wiggling out laterally within the first several magazines. Picked up my M1A from Springfield Armory, and that op rod and assembly lasted a cool 5,000 rounds before I sold her.
Norinco uses injection-molded / cast metal parts, rather than forged or milled metal. It's crap.
Your presentation was wonderfully done, nonetheless. Keep'em coming, Spare Parts 7 out.
Well, Norinco dont make anything, they just export products made by various factories across China. Civillian and military grade weapon are made with very different quality standerd, which is why their M14 can be pretty bad, because its only made for civillian market at low cost. Some of their AK is very good tho, and the used one can cost more than many brand new AKs, because they were originally made for PLA, but later converted to semi auto for civillian market, but U.S banned import on those AK, because they can be easily converted back to full auto AK, those AKs are much better built than most civillian grade AKs.
Norinco has variety of quality level for different price range, you get what you pay for, Chinese products are not exception. Chinese labor is relatively cheaper than some developed countries, but even consider that, in any territory 99% of time you should never expect to have similar quality for less than half the price, that is simply not how business works. China does make quality products, but that is based on buyer's will and the target market, typical western business people ONLY seek THE cheapest possible product from us because that what your market need the most, walk around Yiwu for 30 seconds and you will see what I mean. Speaking of guns, Norinco also got good and bad one, type 97 gen 1 is meh, gen 2 is ok, gen 3 is pretty good for the price, Type 81 is awesome, I never like CQA but it was still one of the useble AR for such a price, NP22 is dogshit, the M305 I tried was pretty rough but does shoot OK.
I can see how this concept will be terrifying when applied to drones. Just imagine a relatively large helicopter drone very high up with one of these looking directly downwards.
Considering how their new rifles can't even shoot straight, I don't expect this thing to have much range
Bruh still believe that video?
people believe to everything mate@@leoli2450
@@leoli2450 Considering the recent maintenance issues with their missiles, yes.
@@leoli2450 Well it's made in china we Indian have 600+ range battle RIFEL with reliable logistics ammunition in abundance while china don't
@supremecaffeine2633 and that videos from the state media taken out of context. Pla is more than comfortable showing that video to the generally public. That should tell you something
Reminds me of how Soviet platoons could use the Dragunov DMR in place of a machine gun for suppressing enemy positions. Maybe fewer accurate grenades can get a similar effect to an automatic launcher with less weight and ammo.
Less weight? It's 28 pounds, unloaded. Each grenade is half a pound.
With a tripod, it's 51 pounds
I wouldn't call that light
Lets agree on the fact that both US and China are both amazing countries. China influenced the far east for the last 20 centuries and US have been the real boss of the entire world after WWII. They have their imperfections, and differences.
Im from China and I love my country. Very often I dislike US, but the people in US, the ones I see in life here in China and the ones I see on internet show me that we are just same people trying to bring joy to family. Respect to all the good men in US, despite our tension I hope the people in both countries try to understand each other.
中國可不只和美國關係緊張呀….😅
0:21 that yeets grenades 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Warhammer 40k bolter rifle IRL??? I'm in love. I must have one!
WH40k bolter rifles are not grenade launchers but instead are actual bolter weapons, which exist in real life and have propelled ammunition.
every light infantry/ special forces needs this one for increased forepower without sacrificing too much mobility
Something I’d find as a battle pickup in BF4
aww yeah, a new Task & Purpose video :D always looking forward to this
thank you for using the metric system
I'm genuinely surprised I didn't get hit with a "This is china's sniper grenade launcher called the Type 96"