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Thanks for the disclosure and I'm looking forward to the new car video. It's comforting to know that other petrol heads also agonise and rationalise their decisions like I do!
I think you've made the right decision there Ped. I like your "everyday bloke" approach too, I think that strikes a cord with lots of people on your channel. Looking forward to the new car reveal. How exciting ....hummm Mini GP1 ???
I appreciated that you posted this and understand why you decided to cancel. I'm still planning to go through with my GP3 order; my dealer in the US told me that we should be finalizing it in a couple of weeks. All the best!
Pete, your spot on with your decision. When I look at the Zegato design study and then the new GP, I think they could have done better with the styling to make it truly special.
I agree Simon....the recent testing of the 4 wheel drive clubman which had the same power output + practicality put the final nail into the GP for you Peter. It would have done the same for me👍
@@phileasfogg3536 Monster discounts, especially through Car Wow.... I arranged a 48hr test drive months ago, still haven't had it yet as my dealer can't seem to find one! I think apart from the demos they are made to order... Everyone is going for the Countryman...
Full marks to you Petrol Ped .......... Totally value your honesty and your reasoning. I fully understand your thinking, makes sense. We guys and cars are an ever evolving and constantly changing choice !!
Bitter sweet announcement. You are still a great ambassador for the Mini brand - I imagine that is why you would have had one of the first allocation. At the end of the day its your money and the content you produce is still top notch so chalk it up to experience. People who support the channel support you and not what car you have ordered so nothing to worry about there. Very much interested to see what you have bought instead!
You did the right thing cancelling. Hard earned money isn't easy come by. I had a similar experience forty years ago where I was having sleepless nights. Eventually I cancelled my order and moved on to something else which I truly enjoyed.
Hey Pete, thank you for your sobering and very candid explanation of why it's just not a feasible and practical choice. From my point of view, I think it's the right move given the depreciation as you stated. Your honesty is so refreshing and so rare in these times. I'm confident you are and will make the right choices for you and the Mrs. Keep it real sir and take good care. Looking forward to Thursday, can't wait!😊
You’ve changed your mind,I think you have done the right thing,some times you can’t have it all.Looking forward to see what coming on Thursday,something more practical,it’s just getting older and wiser.
I’m a bit old school and like to buy my cars too, mainly because I’m good at buying them but not so good at selling them, so tend to hang on to them for a long time - plus if you have a few the mileage is low on all of them. Really good deals are available on new cars so that has negated the initial depreciation to some degree so you’re not taking such a huge hit, and you only take that hit if you sell them. If I were to be a high mileage user, then I suspect my thinking would be entirely different. Everybody is different and you have to do what is right for you, I really enjoy your channel and how grounded you are, it makes your channel relatable and thus hugely enjoyable.
Both our R59 & R55 were used car buys, I am on the same page with you on avoiding the depreciation issue with buying new, and I enjoy the hunt of finding the right used ones !
Hi Peter just to say as one door closes another opens ,you haven't stood still you've got on with it and got something else (can't wait till Thursday ),, you've come to your decision and did what you had to and I admire you for doing it,you made the right decision it may not feel like it but you have. Regards Simon.
Completely understand and respect your decision. I had the same back and forth thoughts before I purchased my new GTI TCR. I'd never owned a new car before but knew I wanted that particular car. The appeal of spec'ing it to how I wanted, being the first owner and again, knowing it was "sort of" a limited run, I still went ahead. And I try not to think too much about the depreciation 😳 At the end of the day, you only live once but everyone has their reasons to why they should or shouldn't commit. Looking forward to the next video of your new car 👍🏻😁
After perusing the comments, most car enthusiasts appreciate the openness and sincerity of your decision. Life is complicated and most of your RUclips followers face similar constraints in the car buying process. Your honesty and enthusiasm will continue unabated, and it's fun to see what you're up to next. Keep up the good work!! Ciao!!
I did also have my deposit down about a year ago. Got excited, and very much like you, I started to doubt myself in getting it, for slightly different reason than yours, it was more about the every day ride I would get. I Could not believe that I was told by Sytner in Oldbury just before Christmas that I could have one. But end of January I cancelled mine, went for a new Audi TT, which I do not regret in the slightest, I am more happier that I have bought the TT. Which ever car you have bought, you have made the right decision
For me Pete, I really enjoy your channel and see it as a window on what you are doing in your "car life". Any decision you make is the right one just as long as you make it. I am just happy to be along for the ride. Very intrigued and keen to see what Thursday brings, onwards and upwards sir and always... Peace and respect. Ben😎
I really respect your honesty and enjoyed this video. I’m happy you still have Ruby too. I’m guessing you may have bought the Works Clubman you were raving about not so long ago but it’s just a guess and so I will go and find your video where you show us what you bought. I love your channel- Gena
Well at the end of the day sir Pete life is life and u have to do what’s best for you and the mrs petrol ped. Your every day life should always come first. Still very much excited for what this year holds for you sir Pete!! Can’t wait to see the new car!
The right choice is the one you have to live with yourself mate. While I miss my old JCW it was not practical enough for daily/family life and it was starting to bug me. Given that mythical 10 car garage and an open budget things would be different and we'd never have to compromise. From the looks of the video ending I have a sneaky feeling you aren't going to regret this decision one bit fella. Best of luck with the new beasty when it arrives!
Not a good day for Mini - we’re just back from our Mini dealership where we cancelled our electric Mini (SE) which we’d had on pre-order since July 5th last year (at Goodwood FOS - before the official launch). Combination of low range and fact that we’d been influenced by your long term (positive) test of the Clubman JCW - which we have bought and are enjoying enormously! Thank you!
You’ve done the right thing Peter. If you have a gut feeling about something, you should go with it. I bought a new car 2 years ago and traded it in after 6 months. My wife hated the car, but she couldn’t bring herself to tell me before I bought it, to avoid spoiling my fun. Better to be totally honest about it before you lose a lot of money.Ouch! Still hurts!! I replaced it with a pre-reg. golf gti performance, saving £5500 on a brand new one. We both love it, so something good came out of it.
Peter I'm impressed with your decision, sensible decisions are often hard with matters of the heart. But yay Ruby can stay. Look forward to seeing the clubman on Thursday ?
good to hear a honest opinion and yip we all get excited for a new car but at least your pit falls didnt cost you money .I still love my 2015 f56 cooper s (stage 1 remap) hope yu enjoy the a4
I love the brutal honestly. This has been my most favourite video you have done. I've like the others and how down to earth you are etc. But this resonated with me. Fron Canada, well done.
The first brand new car I ever bought was a Mini Cooper, in red with white bonnet stripes and roof, I absolutely loved it... that was in 1993 and I’ve only ever bought two new cars since. It’s normally not a financially astute move!
I absolutely understand where you’re coming from re depreciation. I’ve always said that if I put £1000’s in the bank and after 1,2,3 years the bank manager said ‘I’m afraid that the £50,000 you deposited is...um..well er, only worth £32,000’ you’d go ballistic. That’s why new cars are such a poor investment especially as reliability on used cars is so much better these days. I bought a ‘66 plate’ JCW Convertible that was about 6 months old that had all the ‘packs’ on and I saved over £10000 on list. If I’d been the previous owner I’d have wept.
Good morning my friend. Back on it again. I’m blown away at this very first vid of the catch ups. At the end of the day, you have to do what makes sense to you, no one else. Depreciation does kick a touch for sure. This is why I like you as a You Tube guy, but more importantly, as a personal friend, you are down to earth and you take life sensibly. It’s easy to lose £30,000, it takes a hell of a long time to get it back, simple as that. You’ve done the sensible life choice. I’m only a few days behind ya lol.
I understand your decision and I'm grappling with the same issue. The more I think about what I'll be giving up, it's not a sound decision to get my GP. I will miss my heated seats, sound deadening, AWD, 6 speed standard shift and all the comfort options I now have. If they made a 2 door mini JCW AWD with 306hp. I'd take that in a heartbeat over the GP.
Enjoyed this video, that's real life and appreciate you sharing your thoughts. The GPs and GP2s that you see for big money, are on the whole standard and very low mileage, so as you said you don't want to be worrying about putting the miles on. I hope it's a JCW Clubman, I drove one last year on a Pistonheads road trip, totally impressed and would be interesting viewing to see you making a few mods.
I still love driving my GP2 as a daily driver. I lost interest in the GP3 when I realized it wasn’t offered in a manual. Now you say they make 50 percent more than the GP2 also. No thanks! Mine is number 133 of 2000.
Good on you for explaining your thoughts. When spending that kind money you've got to be 100% sure you doing the right thing. Also I'm glad your not dragging it out on picking it's replacement. Looking forward to the new motor. 👍👌
Peter, of course you can change your mind. Your lucky to be in the position whereby you can make these choices, but the heart and the head are different beasts. Its your right to listen to whichever you feel comfortable with. We all respect your choices.
I'm with you Ped. If you have doubts, then it's not for you. I personally think the plough front (sorry, wheel arches) would be a big issue, as I commented on one of your previous videos. Also I think the lack of a manual gearbox, for those fun time drives, was playing on your mind to start with perhaps? Prediction.... Mini Clubman JCW! You had a great opportunity of a 3 month test drive, so you know what to expect, plus Mrs Petrol Ped loved it.
I am waiting for my MINI GP3. This is really the first new car I have purchased in 20 years. I was just excited to see this. I do not have kids to worry about so different life stages. I also have a 2008 MINI Cooper Base for work. 185K miles. Will have this until the wheels fall off. So understand but wanted this cool MINI!
I hear you (though thought you were going to go for an electric version instead)... It is your down to earth-ness that makes you channel so enjoyable / different from those "other" YB-ers (in the future you can imagine a load of supercars for sale under the "failed you tuber" catagory 🤣🤣🤣. As for depreciation, I hear you, and knew it would come for me, but I had to get rid of it earlier than planned, and so had all that pain 18 months after purchase! (6-figures).... Kinda no regrets, but the next one will be "pre-owned" (sorry, living in the US too long!). Keep up the great work.
I believe that You have done the right thing... Spending that much money You have to think about practicality or just have the money left over... Bought a Abarth Rivale but I have a Multivan T6 for practicality and a Abarth doesn’t cost that much... Been looking at several Mini’s since You and Stefan started to show them... Now I definitely wanna have ONE since my wife’s car is practical as well I’m thinking about giving up the T6 and get either a MINI JCW COUNTRYMAN ALL4 or a MINI JCW CLUBMAN ALL4 they both be around 60.000.-€ so a lot of money... need to look at both closer and driving them. What kills me is the fact that I can’t have the COUNTRYMAN whit the 6 doors. By length I need to fit my ski’s 🎿⛷ inside (I hate boxes on the roof) will get a box for transportation and need to find out how to transport 3 bicycles 🚲 well think I’ve made my point...need practicality and fun at the same time...while still keeping my ABARTH 😎 Thanks for all Your great reviews and honesty.
Hi Ped I admire your honesty in sharing your thoughts regarding the cancellation of your order. It would appear from comments so many of us have been there and agree with you. Roll on Thursday.😉😉 Have only bought two new cars in more years than I now care to admit to. First an Audi Coupe spec to my choice incl sunroof. On delivery no sunroof, accept or wait another 4 months. Did a good compromise with my dealer who had an aftermarket roof fitted at their expense.👍👍sold car after 4 yrs depreciation bearable. Second new car VW Corrada V6 kept that car for 10 years, and sold it for 3 times going rate, since then bought s/h mainly ex demo cars.
Ok, you certainly made the right decision ... I've owned 7 late model Minis .... one of which was a JCW Cab and two original GPs. GP1s, if you will, are brilliant .. raw, supercharged, light , small .... wonderful cars and I enjoyed every minute with mine . When the GP2s came out I thought they were too big, overweight and covered in "Ricky Racer" graphics that I thought were tacky to say the least. I had thought about buying one but the moment I saw it on the showroom floor I passed. When I saw the GP3 Concept car online I was blown away ... I thought that if Mini brought that design into production I would be a serious customer. They didn't and I'm not! Many journalists who have driven the car have stated, repeatedly, that it misses the mark. One went so far as saying "it could have been a contender but it's not". At the price Mini is asking I think the car will be a financial failure for them. The 2013 GPs were priced at $39,500 I believe ... 4 months after they arrived at Mini dealers I had three dealers, that I had done previous business with, call me and offer new GPs, that were still on their showroom floors, for low $30s ... they simply couldn't sell them,. I 'm sure that will be the case with the GP3s. You made the right choice. The R53 GPs are still holding their values as far as I can see ... I just sold my GP with 44,000 miles on it for $20K , not bad for a 14 year old Mini.
I think you made the right decision Ped. Thanks for your honesty. Looking forward to seeing your new motor. PS loved your review of the 340. That's my next car, hopefully.
If practicality is a worry you have absolutely done the right thing. I had a GP2 and sold after 2 years of ownership as no good for anything other than single life. And in terms of market value, they don't hold their value as much as youd think. Mine had very very low mileage (under 1000) and got almost no extra for it. Enjoy your new car whatever it is, life's too short!
Making Ruby Red all that she is would probably have alot to do with it....you,ve made your own GP.....heart and sole into it. I've done the same to my own R53....spent thousands on her, shes unique....mint and under my skin. I don't think I'd want to replace her with another Mini.....maybe I'm wrong but I would guess it's a factor. Well done for being true to your heart.
You’ve made the right decision. The GP would’ve been a very expensive toy that you couldn’t have used like a ‘normal’ car. I look forward to seeing what you have bought!
While I am new to Mini ownership, my local dealer currently has all JCW available for test driving (somehow). I did not like the Mini 2-door and after watching another video of you testing the GP3 am sure you're not disappointed. The Mini was a very harsh ride, I'd liken it to washboard roads all the time. I love off-roading, but want a truck to buck me, not a car. You describe the ride of Charlie Clubman perfectly...firm. Our Countryman S is firm but in a very pleasant. I find a lot of cars too bouncy. I knew I didn't want another Countryman, so I drove everything else in the JCW lineup and also went with the Clubman. Zippy, firm ride, corners well, and the sounds is amazing. This was with run flats. I have a plug kit I keep with my other cars, so will jump switch to non-run flat once the car is delivered to really enjoy her. I really appreciate your content as a new Mini owner and love seeing all the mods and updates available that will not void my warranty.
I think you've done the right thing. The new GP is nowhear near the focused machine that previous generations were. They've become fatter, heavier and less focused as time has gone on. The fact the new one has no under body aero, and very few engine upgrades beyond a lesser spec car, makes it a far less enjoyable car. your roadster (like my coupe), has seen a lot of work which takes it to a level that is probably already beyond the GP2. I'd keep enjoying that and give us more content. I'm planning huge jobs for min R58 JCW this year. Suspension, Intercooler, Diff, Remap etc etc
Brother, if there is an automobile RUclipsr who deserves a Mini GP it’s YOU! You are such a good man, a gentleman, so dedicated and hard-working! C’mon, ENJOY YOUR LIFE A LITTLE! Heck with “practical “! Drive it like you stole it and take us along! Golf R? Civic Type R? You let yourself down! You have deprived yourself and us😩 we love you and want the best for you. I’m so disappointed 😱
I think you made the right decision, I kind of got the feeling a little while back you weren’t absolutely certain about the GP3. You’ve absolutely not let anyone down, you have to do what’s right for you not just what you think is good for the channel. You’ve built up a fantastic channel anyway and it will continue.
It was a tough decision to make, but I'm sure the right one overall. Don't let it worry you how some others are able to acquire & go through cars, it boggles my mind sometimes aswell. You have a good channel with great content. You can still take what you like about the GP & transfer those ideas to other car's.
At least this is a cancellation well explained and well thought through, unlike other You Tubers like Archie Hamilton Racing where everyone knows from first post that his latest car order will be cancelled due to some dubious reason! 😀
Don’t worry TGE’s will be for sale in less than 6 months.😆😆. People don’t generally follow a car channel to see a specific car. It’s more the genre of cars and vehicles and the way it’s presented to the viewers which keeps people watching. There’ll be other cars, and we’ll still be watching.👍
PP, Sorry you cancelled the GP3, Well I did offer you my Clubman JCW with only 600Miles, Look at the savings you could have made! Anyway I wish you all the best with your new baby, I bet its another Clubman after all the enthusiasm you had for the borrowed one.
I understand your anguish. Better to make the decision now. In 2017 I plumped for a Leon Cupra , saw it in the showroom , did the deal. I had 6 months with it , great fun but didn't really fit with my needs. Now I'm in a Cupra Ateca , right car this time. Yep I lost thousands from 6 months use. That you have found something and kept Ruby (I'd said before you would regret losing her as you have evolved her) means you have made the right decision. Waiting on Thursdays update.
Hi Pete, what a great commitment. The important thing about your experience was two issues. 1. The greatness of being able to stop him in time and say me wrong; It is a decision that only you can make and value and 2. The second question that seems to me the most important is that the essence that I take you today where you are, and it is due to the own decisions that based on your experience in life you were making.. Never lose this virtue. Greetings from Argentina.
I just picked up my new S countryman, which I love. I understand your reason to cancel, but on the other hand I’m thinking are you mad. Can not wait to see the car you picked. Great Chanel, keep the episodes coming. Cheers David
There is the saving grace that Ruby Roadster won’t be feeling neglected, seriously though, I think you have taken the correct course of action, a car is usually the second most expensive purchase anyone makes after their house, so if there is any doubt at all, it is best to take a step back and have a think about whether or not the ownership satisfaction justifies the expense!.
Very sensible decision and clearly the right one. Getting one of the first in the country would have been great, for about a month until others started getting their's, so not a big deal at all. Plus, you will still get to drive one, just not have to pay for it. At the end of the day, you have to be sensible when spending that kind of money when you live in the real world.
Your being totally honest with yourself. You have to go with how you feel and not be ruled by what would be good for your channel when at the end of the day it wouldn’t be good for you personally, and it most certainly wouldn’t be practical. It’s a nice car to have I grant you but good on you for your honesty and I look forward to your big reveal on Thursday. I wish you many many years of safe motoring in your new car.
I also wanted my first NEW car to be a MINI GP, but the monent it was announced that it was only automatic, I stopped saving up and bought something else. The other thing that turned me off was that 50% more GP3s will be made in comparison to the previous generations. I would rather then spend my money on a GP1 is I can find it and/or a GP2.
I know how you feel, I been looking at all sorts of cars for my next car, I wanted a hot hatch and also needed something practical, been looking for months watching videos, test drives and in the end even though a bmw m135 was meant to be the one of choice, I decided on the Hyundai i30 fastback n because of your living with video and the on the test drive it just made me smile to no end, my wife even could see how happy it made me, hopefully it's the same with your new car, I look forward to finding out on Thursday.
Always good to watch your videos. To be honest this is no surprise to me. I’ve never bought a new car and doubt I ever will. You were so much more happier and impressed with the clubman mini and it suited your needs, so I think that’s going to be your new car. 👍🏻
Gutted for you that did not get the GP3 as we all no that wtach your channel how much you was looking forward to getting her. but iam sure we will all love the new content with your new car mate. As you i never owed anew car myself and currently i am driving a Holden (vauxhall) Insigina VXR 2016 which i am actually quite impressed with.Not sure if you no but over here in Australia car sales go my build Date and not the reg date like the uk so every year the dealers have to offer big discount to shift last year models my wife brought her new car 3 years ago a Nissan Xtrail 2.5L AWD brand new for as little as $28500 which reverts ti £14250 back into pound sterling so there is bargains to be had .
If a car can't do the things you need your car to do, it's not fit for purpose (at least for you in particular). That's why I bought the club man JCW; room for sporting equipment and dogs, while still being compact and not too expensive on the running costs. In a perfect world I'd be cruising around in a cayman S, but it just won't do what I need it to, so I bought a car that would. The best car for you is the one that best suits your needs (and wants).
@@malcolmnicholls2893 funny because today above all others they are right - and I must admit, they are right more times than not :) I just don't get to drive the car I can't afford!
Great choice and well explained. sometimes a lot of us viewers think that you guys are making a lot from RUclips because of the exclusive content sometimes. i think the GP could eventually replace your roadster but for now thinking of the Hp you can get a clubman with the closest specs apart from the digital speedo.
Pete, you are a man with passion. That’s always a good thing. I agree with the never buy a brand new car, my GLA 45 was 18 months old when I bought it and it’s a stunner. Maybe you should try the GLA 45S when it becomes a year old? One to make you smile though. In the Eighties I bought two new cars and you can see why I would never make a car purchaser that people would be interested in. 1981: Brand new Fiat Panda, great fun but rusted to nothing in 4 years and 65,000 miles. Followed by a Yugo 45GL, which devalued to almost nothing in 18 months. Don’t ask me for lottery numbers either... From then on it was a decade or so of spectacularly rubbish second hand cars. They would have made great viewing..... good luck with your new purchase.
Understand the decision, Pete. I get your reasons and it must've been a tough call given your love for the brand. As others have said, the JCW Clubman sounds a great compromise and I'm sure I've even read its 0.2sec quicker. Either way, the same power train and you've experienced it in the Clubman and M135i. It will be interesting to see what you've picked. One thing is for sure there will be many days ahead when you review the GP and see one on the odd occasion where you'll always think 'what have I done' but you never know, the day may still come to acquire a nesrly new one at a great price in a year or so.
Peter...thank you for such an honest video and for giving us reasons behind your decision. I think you have made a brave and sensible move..the GP3 will no doubt be a great car and would have been fine You Tube content BUT you have a real life and that makes your channel very much more interesting to real people. Personally I have become tired of people buying McLaren’s, Huracan’s, hot Mercedes and many other things every few weeks...some we can understand how but others leave me puzzled. I prefer honesty..the GP3 would have been a short lived adventure and mostly driven you mad. I am glad you were brave...it has only happened to me once over a nearly new Shogun in 2006 and going back to the dealer was awful but it is the right thing to do. Now your new car...what might that be then?....I think I know but then it might be that angry Escort!!! Well done tonight...and roll on Thursday!!! Safe driving...😎😎😎😎😎
I've actually just bought a mint GP2 as a second car... 22k on it. It's amazing. I considered a GP3, but really don't like overly like it. The gearbox is a killer for me, no manual.
I reckon the new car might be one of the White Silver Special Edition JCW Clubman’s. We picked up the wife’s new Cooper S on 1st March, and there was a countryman version going out. Nice 👍
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You fucking MUG it a great fucking car TWAT
Hello meriman how many crayons did you use to right that
Merriman Show us yours then?
@@simonupex2628 Is it just me... I think this merriman disagrees I noticed he didn't use the word mini .think he cant spell it lol
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Thanks for the disclosure and I'm looking forward to the new car video.
It's comforting to know that other petrol heads also agonise and rationalise their decisions like I do!
I think you've made the right decision there Ped. I like your "everyday bloke" approach too, I think that strikes a cord with lots of people on your channel. Looking forward to the new car reveal. How exciting ....hummm Mini GP1 ???
New car reveal is great . That is why we use Consumer Reports.
I think your spot on! Those are the same reasons I opted for the JCW Clubman. I get the
performance plus four doors, a back seat, and all 4!
I appreciated that you posted this and understand why you decided to cancel. I'm still planning to go through with my GP3 order; my dealer in the US told me that we should be finalizing it in a couple of weeks. All the best!
Enjoy the car. It will be awesome 👍
Pete, your spot on with your decision. When I look at the Zegato design study and then the new GP, I think they could have done better with the styling to make it truly special.
Makes sense👍
Guessing JCW Mini Clubman, to keep Mrs Ped happy 😊. Happy wife, happy life.
S4 Avant will be going late 2020?
I agree Simon....the recent testing of the 4 wheel drive clubman which had the same power output + practicality put the final nail into the GP for you Peter. It would have done the same for me👍
@@phileasfogg3536 Monster discounts, especially through Car Wow.... I arranged a 48hr test drive months ago, still haven't had it yet as my dealer can't seem to find one! I think apart from the demos they are made to order... Everyone is going for the Countryman...
Agreed...and probably the very car Peter has been driving after a serious valet and service then at a special price...but are we wrong???🤔🤔😅😀😀😀😀
Fair play, not sure I could have pulled plug like that. Clubman better bet as same power and 4WD 👍. Looking forward to Thurs reveal
Happy spouse happy house!
Full marks to you Petrol Ped .......... Totally value your honesty and your reasoning. I fully understand your thinking, makes sense. We guys and cars are an ever evolving and constantly changing choice !!
Bitter sweet announcement.
You are still a great ambassador for the Mini brand - I imagine that is why you would have had one of the first allocation. At the end of the day its your money and the content you produce is still top notch so chalk it up to experience.
People who support the channel support you and not what car you have ordered so nothing to worry about there.
Very much interested to see what you have bought instead!
You did the right thing cancelling. Hard earned money isn't easy come by. I had a similar experience forty years ago where I was having sleepless nights. Eventually I cancelled my order and moved on to something else which I truly enjoyed.
Hey Pete, thank you for your sobering and very candid explanation of why it's just not a feasible and practical choice. From my point of view, I think it's the right move given the depreciation as you stated. Your honesty is so refreshing and so rare in these times. I'm confident you are and will make the right choices for you and the Mrs. Keep it real sir and take good care. Looking forward to Thursday, can't wait!😊
Fair play for being honest and upfront remember it’s what works for you as person and family
You’ve changed your mind,I think you have done the right thing,some times you can’t have it all.Looking forward to see what coming on Thursday,something more practical,it’s just getting older and wiser.
I’m a bit old school and like to buy my cars too, mainly because I’m good at buying them but not so good at selling them, so tend to hang on to them for a long time - plus if you have a few the mileage is low on all of them. Really good deals are available on new cars so that has negated the initial depreciation to some degree so you’re not taking such a huge hit, and you only take that hit if you sell them. If I were to be a high mileage user, then I suspect my thinking would be entirely different. Everybody is different and you have to do what is right for you, I really enjoy your channel and how grounded you are, it makes your channel relatable and thus hugely enjoyable.
Both our R59 & R55 were used car buys, I am on the same page with you on avoiding the depreciation issue with buying new, and I enjoy the hunt of finding the right used ones !
Fair play mate - going with gut instinct 100% correct. I’ve a X5 and TT and spent at least 5 hours a day planning my next new wheels. Obsession ! 😂
I smell a JCW clubby coming up 😍😍 Great show btw! No regrets with the GP. We are practical folks.
Hi Peter just to say as one door closes another opens ,you haven't stood still you've got on with it and got something else (can't wait till Thursday ),, you've come to your decision and did what you had to and I admire you for doing it,you made the right decision it may not feel like it but you have. Regards Simon.
Completely understand and respect your decision. I had the same back and forth thoughts before I purchased my new GTI TCR. I'd never owned a new car before but knew I wanted that particular car. The appeal of spec'ing it to how I wanted, being the first owner and again, knowing it was "sort of" a limited run, I still went ahead. And I try not to think too much about the depreciation 😳 At the end of the day, you only live once but everyone has their reasons to why they should or shouldn't commit. Looking forward to the next video of your new car 👍🏻😁
After perusing the comments, most car enthusiasts appreciate the openness and sincerity of your decision. Life is complicated and most of your RUclips followers face similar constraints in the car buying process. Your honesty and enthusiasm will continue unabated, and it's fun to see what you're up to next. Keep up the good work!!
Ciao!!
I did also have my deposit down about a year ago. Got excited, and very much like you, I started to doubt myself in getting it, for slightly different reason than yours, it was more about the every day ride I would get. I Could not believe that I was told by Sytner in Oldbury just before Christmas that I could have one. But end of January I cancelled mine, went for a new Audi TT, which I do not regret in the slightest, I am more happier that I have bought the TT. Which ever car you have bought, you have made the right decision
For me Pete, I really enjoy your channel and see it as a window on what you are doing in your "car life". Any decision you make is the right one just as long as you make it. I am just happy to be along for the ride. Very intrigued and keen to see what Thursday brings, onwards and upwards sir and always... Peace and respect. Ben😎
I really respect your honesty and enjoyed this video. I’m happy you still have Ruby too. I’m guessing you may have bought the Works Clubman you were raving about not so long ago but it’s just a guess and so I will go and find your video where you show us what you bought.
I love your channel- Gena
You are spot on 😜👏
Well at the end of the day sir Pete life is life and u have to do what’s best for you and the mrs petrol ped. Your every day life should always come first. Still very much excited for what this year holds for you sir Pete!! Can’t wait to see the new car!
The right choice is the one you have to live with yourself mate. While I miss my old JCW it was not practical enough for daily/family life and it was starting to bug me. Given that mythical 10 car garage and an open budget things would be different and we'd never have to compromise. From the looks of the video ending I have a sneaky feeling you aren't going to regret this decision one bit fella. Best of luck with the new beasty when it arrives!
Not a good day for Mini - we’re just back from our Mini dealership where we cancelled our electric Mini (SE) which we’d had on pre-order since July 5th last year (at Goodwood FOS - before the official launch). Combination of low range and fact that we’d been influenced by your long term (positive) test of the Clubman JCW - which we have bought and are enjoying enormously! Thank you!
Oh wow. Great to hear I helped and at least Mini got a car out of you 😜😂
You’ve done the right thing Peter. If you have a gut feeling about something, you should go with it. I bought a new car 2 years ago and traded it in after 6 months. My wife hated the car, but she couldn’t bring herself to tell me before I bought it, to avoid spoiling my fun. Better to be totally honest about it before you lose a lot of money.Ouch! Still hurts!! I replaced it with a pre-reg. golf gti performance, saving £5500 on a brand new one. We both love it, so something good came out of it.
Hi ped, I'd like to thank you for doing this video, whenever I feel constipated I put this on and bang! All gone down the pan- a bit like this video👍
Peter I'm impressed with your decision, sensible decisions are often hard with matters of the heart. But yay Ruby can stay. Look forward to seeing the clubman on Thursday ?
I am glad you have seen sense and gave back word. Well done 👍
good to hear a honest opinion and yip we all get excited for a new car but at least your pit falls didnt cost you money .I still love my 2015 f56 cooper s (stage 1 remap) hope yu enjoy the a4
I love the brutal honestly. This has been my most favourite video you have done. I've like the others and how down to earth you are etc. But this resonated with me. Fron Canada, well done.
Thanks Tim 👍
Just wait till Archie Hamilton “rents” one and then buy it off him after 6 months 👍🏻
Pheasant Pluckers son lol 😂 so true
The first brand new car I ever bought was a Mini Cooper, in red with white bonnet stripes and roof, I absolutely loved it... that was in 1993 and I’ve only ever bought two new cars since. It’s normally not a financially astute move!
I absolutely understand where you’re coming from re depreciation. I’ve always said that if I put £1000’s in the bank and after 1,2,3 years the bank manager said ‘I’m afraid that the £50,000 you deposited is...um..well er, only worth £32,000’ you’d go ballistic. That’s why new cars are such a poor investment especially as reliability on used cars is so much better these days. I bought a ‘66 plate’ JCW Convertible that was about 6 months old that had all the ‘packs’ on and I saved over £10000 on list. If I’d been the previous owner I’d have wept.
Good morning my friend. Back on it again. I’m blown away at this very first vid of the catch ups. At the end of the day, you have to do what makes sense to you, no one else. Depreciation does kick a touch for sure. This is why I like you as a You Tube guy, but more importantly, as a personal friend, you are down to earth and you take life sensibly. It’s easy to lose £30,000, it takes a hell of a long time to get it back, simple as that. You’ve done the sensible life choice. I’m only a few days behind ya lol.
Cheers Bud 👍
I understand your decision and I'm grappling with the same issue. The more I think about what I'll be giving up, it's not a sound decision to get my GP. I will miss my heated seats, sound deadening, AWD, 6 speed standard shift and all the comfort options I now have. If they made a 2 door mini JCW AWD with 306hp. I'd take that in a heartbeat over the GP.
Enjoyed this video, that's real life and appreciate you sharing your thoughts. The GPs and GP2s that you see for big money, are on the whole standard and very low mileage, so as you said you don't want to be worrying about putting the miles on. I hope it's a JCW Clubman, I drove one last year on a Pistonheads road trip, totally impressed and would be interesting viewing to see you making a few mods.
I still love driving my GP2 as a daily driver. I lost interest in the GP3 when I realized it wasn’t offered in a manual. Now you say they make 50 percent more than the GP2 also. No thanks! Mine is number 133 of 2000.
Always trust your gut. Its generally the balance between heart & head.
Got to live in the real world, respect to you for being honest with yourself.
Totally true
Can't wait for Thursday's announcement,I'm so excited!
Totally done the right thing! Sometimes in life the wanting is so much better than the reality of owning.
Good on you for explaining your thoughts. When spending that kind money you've got to be 100% sure you doing the right thing. Also I'm glad your not dragging it out on picking it's replacement. Looking forward to the new motor. 👍👌
Peter, of course you can change your mind. Your lucky to be in the position whereby you can make these choices, but the heart and the head are different beasts. Its your right to listen to whichever you feel comfortable with. We all respect your choices.
I'm with you Ped. If you have doubts, then it's not for you. I personally think the plough front (sorry, wheel arches) would be a big issue, as I commented on one of your previous videos. Also I think the lack of a manual gearbox, for those fun time drives, was playing on your mind to start with perhaps?
Prediction.... Mini Clubman JCW! You had a great opportunity of a 3 month test drive, so you know what to expect, plus Mrs Petrol Ped loved it.
You seemed to enjoy the Mini Clubman JCW. Did you pick one of those up? Seems like it would fit the fun and practical criteria.
The price of the GP3 has gone up above retail, a motor trader in the northwest (SSC) has one for £45k.
Wow really 😳
@@PetrolPed www.s-s-c.co.uk/mini-john-cooper-works-gp-auto-s-s-in-huddersfield-west-yorkshire-6574403
The GP3 seems to have had a good response, i'm not sure if the same thing happened with the price of the GP2 before it started to depreciate
Think you made the right decision mate. DT edition JCW then. Much cheaper, more practical and HUD too. That’s my guess.
I am waiting for my MINI GP3. This is really the first new car I have purchased in 20 years. I was just excited to see this. I do not have kids to worry about so different life stages. I also have a 2008 MINI Cooper Base for work. 185K miles. Will have this until the wheels fall off. So understand but wanted this cool MINI!
Enjoy 👍
Oh well Pete, I`m with you all the way mate.👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌 As long as you don't tell me your new car is a Fiat Punto 😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜
No chance 😂
I hear you (though thought you were going to go for an electric version instead)... It is your down to earth-ness that makes you channel so enjoyable / different from those "other" YB-ers (in the future you can imagine a load of supercars for sale under the "failed you tuber" catagory 🤣🤣🤣. As for depreciation, I hear you, and knew it would come for me, but I had to get rid of it earlier than planned, and so had all that pain 18 months after purchase! (6-figures).... Kinda no regrets, but the next one will be "pre-owned" (sorry, living in the US too long!). Keep up the great work.
I am with you. Wise decision bro. Keep on posting! God Bless!
Cheers 👍
I believe that You have done the right thing...
Spending that much money You have to think about practicality or just have the money left over...
Bought a Abarth Rivale but I have a Multivan T6 for practicality and a Abarth doesn’t cost that much...
Been looking at several Mini’s since You and Stefan started to show them...
Now I definitely wanna have ONE since my wife’s car is practical as well I’m thinking about giving up the T6 and get either a MINI JCW COUNTRYMAN ALL4 or a
MINI JCW CLUBMAN ALL4 they both be around 60.000.-€ so a lot of money... need to look at both closer and driving them. What kills me is the fact that I can’t have the COUNTRYMAN whit the 6 doors.
By length I need to fit my ski’s 🎿⛷ inside (I hate boxes on the roof) will get a box for transportation and need to find out how to transport 3 bicycles 🚲 well think I’ve made my point...need practicality and fun at the same time...while still keeping my ABARTH 😎
Thanks for all Your great reviews and honesty.
Completely understand your cancellation on the GP3, if your not fully 100% convinced your buying the right car then your doing the right thing 👍
Definitely the new JCW Clubman.....I just purchase one off your review and also after taking one out for a test drive 🏎🏎🏎
Hi Ped
I admire your honesty in sharing your thoughts regarding the cancellation of your order. It would appear from comments so many of us have been there and agree with you. Roll on Thursday.😉😉 Have only bought two new cars in more years than I now care to admit to. First an Audi Coupe spec to my choice incl sunroof. On delivery no sunroof, accept or wait another 4 months. Did a good compromise with my dealer who had an aftermarket roof fitted at their expense.👍👍sold car after 4 yrs depreciation bearable. Second new car VW Corrada V6 kept that car for 10 years, and sold it for 3 times going rate, since then bought s/h mainly ex demo cars.
Corrado V6 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Ok, you certainly made the right decision ... I've owned 7 late model Minis .... one of which was a JCW Cab and two original GPs. GP1s, if you will, are brilliant .. raw, supercharged, light , small .... wonderful cars and I enjoyed every minute with mine . When the GP2s came out I thought they were too big, overweight and covered in "Ricky Racer" graphics that I thought were tacky to say the least. I had thought about buying one but the moment I saw it on the showroom floor I passed.
When I saw the GP3 Concept car online I was blown away ... I thought that if Mini brought that design into production I would be a serious customer. They didn't and I'm not!
Many journalists who have driven the car have stated, repeatedly, that it misses the mark. One went so far as saying "it could have been a contender but it's not". At the price Mini is asking I think the car will be a financial failure for them.
The 2013 GPs were priced at $39,500 I believe ... 4 months after they arrived at Mini dealers I had three dealers, that I had done previous business with, call me and offer new GPs, that were still on their showroom floors, for low $30s ... they simply couldn't sell them,.
I 'm sure that will be the case with the GP3s. You made the right choice. The R53 GPs are still holding their values as far as I can see ... I just sold my GP with 44,000 miles on it for $20K , not bad for a 14 year old Mini.
Tune in on Friday at 6pm. I finally got to drive the GP3 👍
I think you made the right decision Ped. Thanks for your honesty. Looking forward to seeing your new motor. PS loved your review of the 340. That's my next car, hopefully.
If practicality is a worry you have absolutely done the right thing. I had a GP2 and sold after 2 years of ownership as no good for anything other than single life. And in terms of market value, they don't hold their value as much as youd think. Mine had very very low mileage (under 1000) and got almost no extra for it. Enjoy your new car whatever it is, life's too short!
Making Ruby Red all that she is would probably have alot to do with it....you,ve made your own GP.....heart and sole into it.
I've done the same to my own R53....spent thousands on her, shes unique....mint and under my skin.
I don't think I'd want to replace her with another Mini.....maybe I'm wrong but I would guess it's a factor.
Well done for being true to your heart.
Please can you tell me if the vent on the bonnet of a Cooper S is just for show and doesn’t actually do anything? Cheers, Pete
Just for show on the F series cars 👍
You’ve made the right decision. The GP would’ve been a very expensive toy that you couldn’t have used like a ‘normal’ car. I look forward to seeing what you have bought!
While I am new to Mini ownership, my local dealer currently has all JCW available for test driving (somehow). I did not like the Mini 2-door and after watching another video of you testing the GP3 am sure you're not disappointed. The Mini was a very harsh ride, I'd liken it to washboard roads all the time. I love off-roading, but want a truck to buck me, not a car. You describe the ride of Charlie Clubman perfectly...firm. Our Countryman S is firm but in a very pleasant. I find a lot of cars too bouncy. I knew I didn't want another Countryman, so I drove everything else in the JCW lineup and also went with the Clubman. Zippy, firm ride, corners well, and the sounds is amazing. This was with run flats. I have a plug kit I keep with my other cars, so will jump switch to non-run flat once the car is delivered to really enjoy her.
I really appreciate your content as a new Mini owner and love seeing all the mods and updates available that will not void my warranty.
I think you've done the right thing. The new GP is nowhear near the focused machine that previous generations were. They've become fatter, heavier and less focused as time has gone on. The fact the new one has no under body aero, and very few engine upgrades beyond a lesser spec car, makes it a far less enjoyable car.
your roadster (like my coupe), has seen a lot of work which takes it to a level that is probably already beyond the GP2. I'd keep enjoying that and give us more content.
I'm planning huge jobs for min R58 JCW this year. Suspension, Intercooler, Diff, Remap etc etc
Brother, if there is an automobile RUclipsr who deserves a Mini GP it’s YOU! You are such a good man, a gentleman, so dedicated and hard-working! C’mon, ENJOY YOUR LIFE A LITTLE! Heck with “practical “! Drive it like you stole it and take us along! Golf R? Civic Type R? You let yourself down! You have deprived yourself and us😩 we love you and want the best for you. I’m so disappointed 😱
I think you made the right decision, I kind of got the feeling a little while back you weren’t absolutely certain about the GP3. You’ve absolutely not let anyone down, you have to do what’s right for you not just what you think is good for the channel. You’ve built up a fantastic channel anyway and it will continue.
It was a tough decision to make, but I'm sure the right one overall.
Don't let it worry you how some others are able to acquire & go through cars, it boggles my mind sometimes aswell. You have a good channel with great content.
You can still take what you like about the GP & transfer those ideas to other car's.
You have got to go with your gut feeling Pete...full support for your decision here.
At least this is a cancellation well explained and well thought through, unlike other You Tubers like Archie Hamilton Racing where everyone knows from first post that his latest car order will be cancelled due to some dubious reason! 😀
Don’t worry TGE’s will be for sale in less than 6 months.😆😆. People don’t generally follow a car channel to see a specific car. It’s more the genre of cars and vehicles and the way it’s presented to the viewers which keeps people watching. There’ll be other cars, and we’ll still be watching.👍
PP, Sorry you cancelled the GP3, Well I did offer you my Clubman JCW with only 600Miles, Look at the savings you could have made! Anyway I wish you all the best with your new baby, I bet its another Clubman after all the enthusiasm you had for the borrowed one.
I understand your anguish. Better to make the decision now. In 2017 I plumped for a Leon Cupra , saw it in the showroom , did the deal. I had 6 months with it , great fun but didn't really fit with my needs. Now I'm in a Cupra Ateca , right car this time. Yep I lost thousands from 6 months use. That you have found something and kept Ruby (I'd said before you would regret losing her as you have evolved her) means you have made the right decision. Waiting on Thursdays update.
Hi Pete, what a great commitment. The important thing about your experience was two issues. 1. The greatness of being able to stop him in time and say me wrong; It is a decision that only you can make and value and 2. The second question that seems to me the most important is that the essence that I take you today where you are, and it is due to the own decisions that based on your experience in life you were making.. Never lose this virtue. Greetings from Argentina.
I just picked up my new S countryman, which I love. I understand your reason to cancel, but on the other hand I’m thinking are you mad.
Can not wait to see the car you picked. Great Chanel, keep the episodes coming. Cheers David
There is the saving grace that Ruby Roadster won’t be feeling neglected, seriously though, I think you have taken the correct course of action, a car is usually the second most expensive purchase anyone makes after their house, so if there is any doubt at all, it is best to take a step back and have a think about whether or not the ownership satisfaction justifies the expense!.
Very sensible decision and clearly the right one. Getting one of the first in the country would have been great, for about a month until others started getting their's, so not a big deal at all. Plus, you will still get to drive one, just not have to pay for it. At the end of the day, you have to be sensible when spending that kind of money when you live in the real world.
Your being totally honest with yourself. You have to go with how you feel and not be ruled by what would be good for your channel when at the end of the day it wouldn’t be good for you personally, and it most certainly wouldn’t be practical. It’s a nice car to have I grant you but good on you for your honesty and I look forward to your big reveal on Thursday. I wish you many many years of safe motoring in your new car.
Not sure about the UK but in the US you can write off loses on your end of year taxes, making it possible to afford these things.
I also wanted my first NEW car to be a MINI GP, but the monent it was announced that it was only automatic, I stopped saving up and bought something else. The other thing that turned me off was that 50% more GP3s will be made in comparison to the previous generations.
I would rather then spend my money on a GP1 is I can find it and/or a GP2.
I know how you feel, I been looking at all sorts of cars for my next car, I wanted a hot hatch and also needed something practical, been looking for months watching videos, test drives and in the end even though a bmw m135 was meant to be the one of choice, I decided on the Hyundai i30 fastback n because of your living with video and the on the test drive it just made me smile to no end, my wife even could see how happy it made me, hopefully it's the same with your new car, I look forward to finding out on Thursday.
Always good to watch your videos. To be honest this is no surprise to me. I’ve never bought a new car and doubt I ever will. You were so much more happier and impressed with the clubman mini and it suited your needs, so I think that’s going to be your new car. 👍🏻
You’ve done the right thing as you know in your heart it’s the right decision. Also enjoy your JCW Clubman ;)
Gutted for you that did not get the GP3 as we all no that wtach your channel how much you was looking forward to getting her. but iam sure we will all love the new content with your new car mate. As you i never owed anew car myself and currently i am driving a Holden (vauxhall) Insigina VXR 2016 which i am actually quite impressed with.Not sure if you no but over here in Australia car sales go my build Date and not the reg date like the uk so every year the dealers have to offer big discount to shift last year models my wife brought her new car 3 years ago a Nissan Xtrail 2.5L AWD brand new for as little as $28500 which reverts ti £14250 back into pound sterling so there is bargains to be had .
Makes sense. I hope you've bought an RS3.. More practical, more tunable, moddong them doesn't kill value..
So boring though.
@@rare6499 I have an RS3 and you are correct...It is a great car, don't get me wrong...but, yes but...it is...?
Audi... 🤮🤮🤮
100% the correct decision. Onwards and upwards. I should have gone with my gut feeling the last time I made a big purchase
If a car can't do the things you need your car to do, it's not fit for purpose (at least for you in particular). That's why I bought the club man JCW; room for sporting equipment and dogs, while still being compact and not too expensive on the running costs. In a perfect world I'd be cruising around in a cayman S, but it just won't do what I need it to, so I bought a car that would.
The best car for you is the one that best suits your needs (and wants).
My Dad says, Jon there will always be another car and my Mum says, it's only a car - I don't listen to either of them :)
no there will not another car mum
LOL 😂
When you are their age, or maybe sooner, you'll know where the expression "wise old man" comes from. All the best.
@@malcolmnicholls2893 funny because today above all others they are right - and I must admit, they are right more times than not :) I just don't get to drive the car I can't afford!
Great choice and well explained. sometimes a lot of us viewers think that you guys are making a lot from RUclips because of the exclusive content sometimes. i think the GP could eventually replace your roadster but for now thinking of the Hp you can get a clubman with the closest specs apart from the digital speedo.
Pete, you are a man with passion. That’s always a good thing.
I agree with the never buy a brand new car, my GLA 45 was 18 months old when I bought it and it’s a stunner. Maybe you should try the GLA 45S when it becomes a year old?
One to make you smile though. In the Eighties I bought two new cars and you can see why I would never make a car purchaser that people would be interested in. 1981: Brand new Fiat Panda, great fun but rusted to nothing in 4 years and 65,000 miles. Followed by a Yugo 45GL, which devalued to almost nothing in 18 months. Don’t ask me for lottery numbers either...
From then on it was a decade or so of spectacularly rubbish second hand cars. They would have made great viewing..... good luck with your new purchase.
At first I was like nooooooooo!
But I understand entirely and you have probably made the right decision. Can't wait for Thursday!!!!
Fair enough... your not the first and won’t be the last to change your mind over a new car... I think you’ve made the right decision
If there's any doubt, there's no doubt. Good call.
I think you made the right choice. We could all see the disappointment when you found out it wasn't a manual.
You're letting no-one down Ped. Chin up! Cant wait to see the new car!
Understand the decision, Pete. I get your reasons and it must've been a tough call given your love for the brand.
As others have said, the JCW Clubman sounds a great compromise and I'm sure I've even read its 0.2sec quicker. Either way, the same power train and you've experienced it in the Clubman and M135i.
It will be interesting to see what you've picked. One thing is for sure there will be many days ahead when you review the GP and see one on the odd occasion where you'll always think 'what have I done' but you never know, the day may still come to acquire a nesrly new one at a great price in a year or so.
Peter...thank you for such an honest video and for giving us reasons behind your decision. I think you have made a brave and sensible move..the GP3 will no doubt be a great car and would have been fine You Tube content BUT you have a real life and that makes your channel very much more interesting to real people. Personally I have become tired of people buying McLaren’s, Huracan’s, hot Mercedes and many other things every few weeks...some we can understand how but others leave me puzzled. I prefer honesty..the GP3 would have been a short lived adventure and mostly driven you mad. I am glad you were brave...it has only happened to me once over a nearly new Shogun in 2006 and going back to the dealer was awful but it is the right thing to do. Now your new car...what might that be then?....I think I know but then it might be that angry Escort!!! Well done tonight...and roll on Thursday!!! Safe driving...😎😎😎😎😎
I've actually just bought a mint GP2 as a second car... 22k on it. It's amazing. I considered a GP3, but really don't like overly like it. The gearbox is a killer for me, no manual.
I reckon the new car might be one of the White Silver Special Edition JCW Clubman’s. We picked up the wife’s new Cooper S on 1st March, and there was a countryman version going out. Nice 👍
I completely understand your decision Peter and I’m glad you can now keep Ruby 🥰