18v Makita X-LOCK Grinder Review & Let's Compare It To The Makita 40v Grinder Just For Fun
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2021
- X-LOCK is here for Makita users! The new DGA519 is available at the sellers below. It is a long awaited addition to Makitas MASSIVE line up of Grinders. But are they any good???
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LISTEN UP GENTS , I want to put the word out about a incident that happened to me. I had a 4 1/2" milwaukee wire wheel completely come apart on me. I had a 149 pieces of small wire pulled out of hands and arms and my thighs from my waste to my knees...went straight through my jeans and shirt sleeves.
I , and my coworkers have NEVER seen this happen in 25 years in the trade. Why am I telling you guys this ???
To make sure y'all wear your PPG's , I had on safety glasses as well as a face shield which definitely saved my eyes and neck...I also had on a leather apron which saved my torso.
EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED guys and be safe.
Oh , great vid brother.
This is the sort of shit that kept me away from cut off wheels and wire wheels for a while. It's also what scared me away from using my grinder at full speed for a while.
Hey.. just wondering if you had guard on?
@@RogueEagle What's up brother ? For once I actually did use the guard , as you probably know the 4 1/2"-5" m18 fuel angle grinder comes with two guards. To be blatantly honest I actually think the guard is what put myself and my coworker next me in a world of hurt.....I normally never use the guard.
If the guard had been OFF of the tool , the fragments would have dispersed in a 360 degree pattern , however with the guard on and the way it was positioned combined with where I was standing directed the majority of the fragments back towards me and my coworker... imagine a shit ton of hornet stings at once....then once again as all of the pieces were removed. At least the nurse was hot....😎
Sold on X-Lock & absolutely love it no going back ! Waiting for 40 volt version to go X-lock then I’ll buy that as well. Great video as usual keep them coming.
I was super excited and full of anticipation waiting for the X-Lock to hit the stores. When it did I couldn't justify buying one when I already have a perfectly good "regular" style grinder. I have many other tools tools to buy before I go buying this fancy one.
I played with one at the store and love it! The guard especially! So many tools...so little money... I tell ya, these tool companies have it down to a science making just the right features, improvements, variations, etc. And releasing tools in the exact order to always have me wanting more...more...MORE!!!!
I'm probably preaching to the choir here.
Thanks for another great review.
I Got the x-lock for a year now, and it's a great machine!
I bought the xgt last week, used for the first time today. Chopping out sockets in red brick, doesn’t stop like the 18v, blitzed through everything. I was covered in shit on a hot day, but was happy!
I've been thinking of converting to this for a while now. Converted. Subscribed. Great job 😀
Hi, I am an occasional user and have a couple of corded grinders and have wanted a cordless one for some time. Went to buy a makita and saw several options. Initially disregarded this x lock model as it was 50% more but then I looked at all the other features and decided to bite the bullet and get latest tech. £32 for 5 months instead of £23 (good old amazon!) Glad I did as I'm well impressed! Brake is a good feature as is the variable dial but the x lock is so convenient and makes me want to use it more. In fact, I keep it on the work bench so I can just grab it real quick. I found the accessories pretty good value here in the UK. They are more expensive but they are high quality (borch) and you can sometimes get 115mm discs half the price of 125. Great review. Subscribed 👍
I was actually quite amazed at how wel the 18v did in comparison. It really held its own
I really love my makita 18v variable speed grinder ( not x lock one ) great control and very easy to use for different applications. I believe X lock will be the future for grinder, like Starlock for multi tools, SDS for rotary hammer. Bloody Bosch made a fortune for those invention
Ide say you are up there with best makita testing channel, your content is very informative @tools&stuff
Cheers.
Great review buddy !!
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I just bought my first X-Lock today, I bought a corded Makita version, I only tested it, seems cool, been wanting 1 for a long time, but finally justified the purchase, I already own like 20 grinders for different purposes, including a 20V Dewalt, I bought it for different reason than most, many of my grinders need a different wrench. and I finally got sick of dealing with it for when I go somewhere, most recently, my Dewalt that uses an allen wrench stripped, I had to fight with it, I didnt have a spare tool with me, oops, & I used vice grips to get it off, but maybe 30 min wasted over that. had times I cant find correct wrench, maybe I put it in my pocket last time, and didnt make it to tool bag, yeah, maybe it gets burried and have to remove all tools from tool bag, so this will be in my service bag, it will be so worth extra cost to not deal with wrench on road. I will still carry my old Dewalt grinder, as a backup, but plan to make this exclusive for work, unless I need to bring a big grinder for job. most work I do at home, so no real issues, but from time to time, yeah I need to haul my welding stuff to someone's home. I hope this fits the bill of not needing to worry about stupid wrench. lol.
For me it will come down to what the suppliers are selling and the accessories.
But I’m like you multiple grinders set up for each task 👍
40V X-lock 😍 Oh yeah. Also we need more 40V (and 40V x2) tools, especially lawn mowers, string trimmers and such. Come on Makita.. I would've liked if they had more tools ready when launching the 40V platform.
That would have meant waiting longer for the products they already launched. I am very happy they did not wait for the whole line to be ready, or worse rush out inferior tools and instead started with fewer but pretty good tools
After the heart racing excitement of the first five seconds I had to go and sit down until I recovered my composure. I've had a very sheltered life‼️
Have the Makita DGA504Z Grinder and with the time I've had it using 6 & 5Ah batteries cutting with 1/0.8mm Makita cutting discs and 40/60 grit flap discs its a pain constantly changing between discs and batteries are dead in under 10 minutes of use. Definitely buying into the Makita 40V platform and especially a X-Lock grinder having it alongside my existing Makita 18V & Milwaukee M12 tools.
Are you doing the stall tests on Geoffrey Crokers Land Rover chassis? Anyway, another awesome makita test thanks for bringing it to us.
My only grinder is an XAG25Z and other than battery life I love it.
Love them X lock!
Great video, I really like xlock
Makutu's a pretty damn good user-friendly tool that has power and reliability
Hi Tools I bought a 40v 125mm makita grinder when I got it out of the box it has an additional guard which fits over the existing guard for when you are using a cut off wheel. Here is the makita part no199710-5 .
Great test video bro! 🤣🤣🤣 grinder's a dodgy word ae 🤣 crack up
I hope makita will make in future new 18v models to look like 40v grinders at the bottom it looks more compact
Good review
This system help me save my cutting wheel!! I use my grinder seldomly and it gets banged around the rest of the tools and by the time Im going to use it, the metal disk is broken or damage.
Could you run the X-lock mechanism over some metal and see how robust it is? On a regular grinder, the lock nut gets damaged
Here in Florida, the disks, and all accessories are the same price, and in some cases cheaper, because of promotional values.
I just got the makita here in the us i love it, i wish it had the variable speed selector .....
exactly, a premium 40V expensive grinder with no variable speed?! Came on makita!
You should compare the Makita grease gun.. I just bought one and I love it but it is a hell of a lot heavier than the Milwaukee.. I'm putting it down to being better quality than the Milwaukee 🤣
I hope we get to see the new Makita brushless multi tool review here!!
You will.
Osborn do some decent x-lock cutting wheels and flap discs, worth a look as the Bosch ones are saucy money.
Ha! My new favorite term: "Saucy money".
How long can work with 5ah 18v?
Milwaukee works 6min 5ah 18v
You should have used identical XLock disks, they fit both grinders
HaHa I know! While I was editing it I exclaimed out loud "Why didn't you use the x-lock on both of them you fucking idiot?" But it is still a valid test because it showed that you can get thinner discs for a standard grinder than an x-lock, and that makes a big difference to cut speed and disc longevity.
I'm surprised you are the only one to mention it.
easy to switch between the only two types of discs
I was considering the x-lock until I saw that you can’t use standard discs on it. 😢
Confirmed: US paddle model XAG26 has no variable speed control, and a brake. The manual says the switch XAG24 should have one, but I didn't get that one. Also says both should have a brake.
And if it was fair, there would never be a winner.
Read somewhere that bosch makes those "makita" xlock disks for them and put makita name on it. From my experience all of the bosch accessories are excelent so no wonder that they last. Same thing with starlock blades. (tip for those in europe: bauhaus brand craftomat are made by bosch and they are cheaper and i dont see any quality difference.)
I have 2 questions, whats the cost per disk compared to normal disks that require a tool. The other which is dangerous and dumb, but can you depress the trigger and release the x lock lever?
Good review mate!
Price is the same, and pulling the lever when the disc spinning does nothing
Price can be very different depending on where you live.
dude i bought a new 125mm makita the other day , got home and freaked out , was Xlock , , took it back swapped for normal one , , the bloke said i should keep it , , , but i pointed out , as you did , , i use diamond deep cutting honing blades , , , they are cup shaped , , and secured with nut , would not trust Xlock in this instance
So, do the xlock grinders stay reliable after a few years of schmoo clogging everything up? I'll take simplicity and reliability for now.
Its the same with the normal threded ones, sometimes cloghs up.
Why would one lock themselves into having to pay 2x or 3x the money for consumables when it is so easy to change regular discs? This is just a ploy to charge more for x-lock discs. If and when these become popular/standard and the prices are the same as the standard ones today, then and only then would I consider x-lock.
Here in the states the x-lock consumables cost exactly the same as traditional consumables. If not cheaper in some cases due to them being under promotional pricing to nudge people to adopt the system more.
And here in Belgium the x lock consumables also cost exactly thesame as normal discs
Thanks for the info guys, hopefully the discs will drop in price here soon.
The problem is that you only find 'professional' discs in Xlock, industrial ones like Pferd and Klingspor are all almost all in conventional style. If you are a sporadic user or only use 2 types of disk x-lock is fine but for more industrial use or if you want to use more premium specialized discs the regular ones are the way to go.
A lot of diamond hole cutters are designed to thread onto angle grinders. They are also heavy so I don't know how X-Lock will cope with that kind of weight. For now the standard thread is much more versatile and accessories are way cheaper. I also bought a Milwaukee Fixtec nut for my grinder after which I've not needed the wrench.
They advise to use a old style grinder for concrete disc and diamond disc. Im not sure but I don't think they make x lock diamond disc do they???
Who's they? And yes you can get x-lock for concrete cutting, ceramic hole saws and everything else you can get for a regular grinder now.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL No, not even close. Premium abrasive brands like Klingspor Germany have almost all they line in regular discs not x-lock and once you use a premium one you don't go back to regular Bosh ones. I trade my x-lock makita back for a regular one a few months ago
I like Makita tools been my favorite battery powered tools for long time, but the grinder is too big and bulky. almost not usable in tight spaces the old grinder works so much better. Not heavy and not bulky.
Sorry for my dumb question but...could you please explain to me the benefits and advantages of having a variable speed angle grinder?
As always, great video!
Gives you better options for sanding and polishing. I also used it cutting the other day in a confined space, gave more control.
Polishing 2000 rpm, wood 4000 rpm, stone 10000 rpm
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL thanks
@@nediljkaspanja9982 thanks
I use variable grinder to save abrasives. I usually use 3000 rpm for brushes and non woven fiber, for flap use between 3000 to 6000 rpm , for fiber disc, 3000 rpm, for sanding 3000 rpm, for cutting 8000rpm (max speed), for grinding use 3000 or 4500 rpm. Also, enable to handle the grinder onehanded or supress the jerk. In my job, i work with total control over my tasks.
I don't understand why no one is mentioning this. What if this becomes obsolete and your stuck with a useless grinder that you cant get attachments for? With the older style you can use X-Lock discs and standard discs. Way better option in my mind still.
Silly question can you eject a disk while it’s running
Asking the real questions here...
And so began the sport of death frisbee, which went on to become the number one cause of untimely death for apprentice welders.
Nope, have seen once before, or you would get a real flywheel
No you cant, this lever moves but it does nothing when running
Bizarre that I never thought to try that in the video. Very unlike me.
See if you can swap heads put the xlock on the 40v
I now need you tell me why I need to buy the brushless multi tool!
Coming soon...
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Good news 👍
I have a theory that you can replace the head of the grinder from the regular grinder with an x-lock one. At least I hope that’s the case.
Would need the whole grinder head, for the release mech...
@@garycaruso4883 that was my point… makita does not currently make an x-lock 40v grinder. I just made the observation that one could possibly take the head off an 18v or a 120v makita x-lock grinder and put it on a 40v grinder.
If you wanna send me the Makita s you've already tested I can do some testing on them to see how they hold up in marine construction. My Makitas do well in the salt water, I've got no 40vs though.
Converted
I just can't understand how the connection would be so thin, but hold a safe RPM rating for old grinders.
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MC KITTY?
Tongue slip or deliberate?
Anyway I like it.
I'm gonna call it mc-kitty from now on.
Seems your ears just aren't tuned to my accent.
Xlock is going to be as adopted as starlock
X-Lock is very cool. As you said, it removes the need for multiple grinders. However, there are also drawbacks. The most significant one is that the cheapest discs are over two times as expensive and some arent even available like the ones for concrete grinding. Also, there are very few brands that are invested into this system. As far as i can see only Tyrolit, Pferd and Bosch themselves provide equipment, all of them very expensive.
18V vs 40V it's like a badass wife with a skinny husband :D
That 40v battery size is monstrous!! I do not want that.
Had x-lock for demo in our welding workshop. Nice concept. But grinding in tight places hitting edges made the lock mechanism highly questionable. For an amateur bloody amazing. Using grinders on most of our work both pre and post welding. The x-lock mechanism wouldnt last long. Even the salesman agreed.
I’ve had the x-lock for about 6 months and it works great in the shop. Compared to the Dewalt and Milwaukee grinders it’s better.
id rather a better way store the spanner on the tool, or just make the tool came with 10 spanner. i wont really trust that system, not now. when it comes to work, i want simple and foolproof.
Spent your time worried about what's fair? Why they call its a fairy tail cause that's not life. Enjoy the tools and quit the complaints😏🕺😎👍💥
I was suprised to see that i was not subscribed. Bummer.
I hope you are now.
I want to like the Makita 18v grinders but why did they have to make the battery mount so damn long? They could have made it like 2 full inches shorter overall. Even the Chinese clones do it better than Makita themselfes. The 40v model is much more compact in that regard, so much wasted space on the 18v. And why dont they put the new style quick adjust guard on the regular 18v grinders? The current adjustment is awful, it always comes loose
That’s the variable speed version of the grinder. Base is bigger to make room for the extra electronics. The regular 18v grinders are exactly like the 40v ones except for the angle of the battery being 90° to the tool.
@@banannaninja I know but there is no reason to make it this big. It's like an extra inch just for the little turning knob. There is no extra electronics involved, every other manufacturer manages to keep it compact. They even could have made a push button design with different speeds like the impact drivers. Bosch does this for example
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I love my makita tools, but honestly I'm not down with this. Is it convenient? Sure..but it also raises the price of the consumables considerably and frankly it isn't worth the extra cost for the trivial amount of convenience it offers.
Just a con to make you use their overpriced disc's, the X lock disc is more than twice the price of a normal disc.
One thing: We wish our tools not be heavy! So in my opinion, 40 v is to heavy and not worth money...
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