Navy has there own rule book called IALA … dictates rules of the road for all vessels on water ways and they don’t say or use right … every ship is to do a port to port pass it’s gets tricky we use IALA Bravo (International association of light house authorities) north South America Japan Korea Philippines all use Bravo the rest use Alpha where you pass starboard to starboard right side of the ship … there no exception unless a ship is in distress or restricted in her ability to maneuver like a carrier in a small channel will stay in the middle so doesn’t not run aground … it’s not usually it’s the law captains have discretion to do the opposite in case of an emergency
Right. See you on the one may be more common. But it isn't mandatory. As long as whoever is at the wheel has arranged with the other vessel. Sometimes you'll hear "one bell or two?". I've even used horn signals in the past on the great lakes when the other guy had radio issues.
Comms went something like this: Command Ship: I'm not moving, you are! Destroyer: I have enough firepower to destroy several of you, plus I'm on an important mission. Move now! Command Ship: Well I'm 4 times the displacement and mass so when we collide in 6 seconds......
@@-_.._._--_.-.-_-_-_-...-.- This was my thought as well! You move! No,you move! No,I need to go to port YOU MOVE.NO,I MUST leave port MOVE NOW.NOO...Seconds before impact,lighter boat is like Nah,I was just fw you big bro way to stand on business but don't forget.I run circles around your big ahh 😂
What I just saw was two ships making a decision to do what seemed like the best and only option to avoid a collision. They didn't collide. Good job ya'll! Lives and millions of dollars saved!
They can detect a guppy twenty miles away but, two giant vessels headed towards each other with all of the best technology in the world and visual nearly rammed each other and you're good with that
You should look up what range battle ships fight at and then ask yourself why were they so close together considering they can detect shallow craft miles away
That explains all the collisions we have... Oh wait 🤣 I guess our guys are poorly trained, there's usually multiple crashes every year. Same with our flights. Poor americans dying in training constantly.
@@Devilishlybenevolentonly time I hear about soldier in vehicles dying in training is helicopter or maybe sometimes plane crashes but the og comment is talking about boats.
@@mrsavagemans Yeah our boats crash yearly and it happens so often. You have to wonder what is negligence, what is stupidity and what is just bad training. Almost every year our ships crash and our sailors die. Though we don't hear about it too often, its a blip on the map and designed that way.
@@DevilishlybenevolentU.S navy ships have only collided 12 times since 1946 and there have been a total of 22 crashes since then. So on average there is a crash every 3.5 years.
This happens more than you think, even outside of the navy. As long as both vessels are in communication with (and both know basic mariner law and lingo) all will be fine
they were not the only ships in the channel, both violated federal law codified and enforced by DHS and the Coast Guard.....they are not allowed to travel down the center of the channel, and when approaching each other they are REQUIRED to pass on the right.
True. Standard yielding is only really necessary when neither can communicate. Otherwise it's just a coordinated maneuver. The same goes with aircraft flying close in formation. Fine if you don't sneak up on them and communicate your intentions.
Can you explain something… I’m confused because they did pass on their right. They turned left yes which meant they passed each other on the right, right?
@wheresmyparade well think of it like a road, you drive on the right side so cars goin the opposite direction would be passing on your left side, on the water it is expected we all stay to the right but if both Vessels communicate to turn hard to port no collision should happen
@@catchemup_jon636 I actually drive on the left side of the road… well not just me, my entire country. I do understand logistics what I don’t understand is that these two boats, did pass each other on the right.
@@GhostKidd-jx6kk oil floats on water also the universe and space is vast and never ending I’m sure there’s oceans on other worlds with other liquids far far away
@@ThomasJeffersonEdwardsIV I’m just answering questions to my best extent if you wanna take the time to study every inch of every planet in all of ever expanding space matter time and even dimensions for mystery liquids and re teach all you learn to ppl be my guest
That's why we use 1 and 2 Head-on passing on the 1 is always going to be starboard side of your vessel to the starboard side of their vessel. Opposite for the 2. And if you're being overtaken, the vessel overtaking you will have their port side to your starboard side if they intend to pass you on the 1. Edit: whoops I typed my original comment backwards, it's correct now
All ships entering ports use Civilian Pilots. They take command of ships movements. So this isnt really thr fault of the Navy. The helsman was just following directions.
Both ships would have been talking on the radio already and they would have waiting to turn after communicating their intentions and receiving a positive response from the other ship. I retired from the Coast Guard and spent many years on the bridge going in and out of ports and this is quite common in busy shipping ports like this.
If it’s so common and just the usual result of a busy shipping lane then why was there an investigation? We don’t usually investigate common occurrences.
@@justmyopinion8395 there could be many reasons why there was an investigation BUT they might be saying there was an investigation just to get views 🤷🏻♂️
The bigger vessel probably preferred to stay further away from coast line possibly due to shallow water. Manouver was most likely agreed via communication before. Also the video has been sped up.
While the USS Harpers Ferry is a much bigger warship (16,000 tons vs 9210 tons) the Harpers Ferry only drafts 21 feet where the Momsen is 31 ft because of its sonar dome sticking down much further into the water.
@@dundonrlStill doesnt mean anything. To me its bogus news. International regulations for preventing collisions at sea: Rule 2(b) States that one can deviate from the rules when trying to avoid immediate danger.
Its got nothing to do with what you said. Both ships are already on each others left so for them to keep going left was the safer smarter option. If they would of turn right the would of have to crossed each other centers which would of been far more dangerous.
@@dundonrl I agree. Passing on the right is the expectation unless there is some kind of agreement. The Momsen most certainly chose to pass on the left because of its 31 foot draft. I think the other commenters think that the investigation is about which side they passed on, when it is about the delay.
In the video you can see that its too late to maneuver their ships to the right because both are already left justified in their positions and its not safe anymore that they will both turn right to their starboard sides.. its good they applied their good judgement and common sense… aye salute!!!
You can clearly see that they aren't making any wake, which means that they weren't moving, until they both turned. This was NOT a near collision. The video is also sped up by a lot.
@@a.t6066 18 other people appear to think the same thing that Hector thought. Hopefully they'll realize and accept that they were duped by a sped up video.
Except that they use all kinds of fancy words like "give way to vessels of greater displacement." Also they rules change a bit if sailing craft are involved but it always comes down to the more agile vessel letting the more pokey one go their way.
Lots of ships are supposed to wait until the last minute to turn. Something about the fluid dynamics that essentially push them away from each other and the sucks them back to their center line.
I was a US Navy Boatswains mate and part of our job is to be helmsman. Passing on the right is a guideline, mostly. Many things are to be considered. For example, it is possible one of the ships was having issues with the steering system and that why they didn't turn off in the first place. If you don't wait and calculate the best I do at the time one ship could have followed the rule and turned directly into the path where the other ship could not have avoided contact due to the steering issue. But they have radio coms and radar and men on watch so they shoukd definitely not have gotten this close.
As a Vet USCG BM Coxswain whatever the cause of the near miss, it should have been communicated way farther in advance than this and should never have gotten to this point. Only possible allowable explanation would have been a steering and engine failure on both ships at the same time. Most likely it was poor leadership and anticipation on the bridge of both vessels.
Plus the larger vessel may have preferred to stay further away from shore!! Thanks to this video tho now we can’t watch the harbor anymore. Some government agency showed up and pulled the guys cameras off his business. He has a business on a peak overlooking the harbor and started off with only one camera but over time and as popularity increased he got better cameras and more of them. There’s ppl who would sit and watch his channel all day, different angles and everything but not no more. I think they stated it was “compromising National security” to post navy actions on the www, not like China doesn’t have satellites that track all our vessels just as we do theirs!!
The rule of thumb is passing on the right so everyone knows where the other guy is going. This works even if communication is broken and keeps everyone safe.
Yes. It is very common for river tow boats pushing 1000 or more feet of barges to pass on either side of each other. Wherever there is room. Even before radios, they communicated their intentions and acknowledgments via whistle or horn signals.
This applies at a further distance but not on close call. The maritime rules should be modified for close distance Bow to Bow maneuvering, the rule might be "Where the bow and the longitudinal axis of the ship is dominantly situated, it should turn on that direction away from the incoming ship to avoid collision. But for close Bow to Body maneuvering at any subtended angle, the transversal heading ship should slow down, apply reverse thrust and stop until the route heading is clear.
It’s not a rule of thumb - it’s the law. This was directly in contravention of the Rules of the Road and had there been a collision, the CO, Navigator and OOW of both units would’ve been prosecuted!
@@2023crosshair-wa6MnYou’re not meant to approach vessels to that sort of distance, because it leads to collisions. Enshrining exactly how to manoeuvre in a situation in law is ludicrous and would be detrimental to safety on the high seas and waters connected therewith navigable by seagoing vessels. The military does so but it is heavily Co-ordinated and there are specific NATO rules that are intended as an addendum to Rules of the Road that delineate who gives way to who for ships conducting these sorts of manoeuvres.
The rule of passing on the right is only advised when you have enough time to turn but in situations like this the coast guard allows emergency maneuvers to avoid head on collisions. It’s in the rule book
Yes but the Harpers Ferry is blatantly on the wrong side of the harbor channel. This is San Diego Harber and it can handle all sizes of ships including Nimits Class aircraft carriers.
That was near the choke point between San Diego and Coronado Island, one of the tightest areas either of those ships usually encounter. They shouldn’t have been that close to begin with but it’s a pretty tight area no doubt. I used to be on the bigger ship of the two, a few years back.
Nope. If they'd passed to the R, they would have collided Bow to Bow, because they were already too far to the left (not center or right) to enable each to turn to the right.
Not at all whatsoever.. there was no confusion there. You dont even know what they're doing but good job criticizing what you don't understand. Passing on a side is a guideline not the rule. Dummy. Keep spreading ignorance
Steering at the last minute creates a water barrier pushing ships away. Passing too late pulls the ships close together and the aft may slam into the other ship.
Your brain failing you. Out of context, two navy vessels aboiding eachother while in communication the whole time... What about tax dollars? You don't even understand what theyre doing. But good job, criticizing what you don't understand
This is normal, ship’s passing in narrow channels wait until the last minute to turn as the pressure differential helps them pass without hitting each other or running aground. Casual Navigation made a good video explaining it
Fleet Admiral Armchair here! I just wanted to point out that procedure should always be paramount to a free nation! These proud men and women serving the greater good and whatnot. I feel the thing here is what definitely happened and that is what makes our great country...uh...great! Ok, i'll take any questions? Yes? You there...oops, sorry, Time's up! Go Navy!
That procedure would all depend upon the circumstances at the time . That passage looked very active with other non military traffic. Both ships had to avoid all of the other vessels and avoid groundings.They timed the turns precisely. Both ships had personnel checking the surrounding waters for any possible danger including other vessels.👀👀👀👀
Well you can see that the far ship already tried to go right to avoid them, but realized it made more sense to just go left because they were already headed that way around them
Water and Air both use rules of the right. You always pass to the right if there is no communication so that no one makes the mistake and steers into the other vessel.
Ah the old game of chicken. I can’t imagine how that went down. “Hey bro. Wanna play chicken?” “You can’t play chicken with battleships! You’ll be courtmartialed!” “Nah, I’ll probably get chewed out. I been chewed out before.”
We're looking through a zoom lens so we actually can't tell how close these ships are from each other. It looks close but it might not have been close at all. Zoom lenses do crazy things.
Theres a difference between following protocol and knowing when you shouldnt to avoid injury/death. They were already too close to turn right and the safest option was left
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Their already left of each others centre line, why turn right?
Port was the correct call!
quite right!
It's called COLREGS. They should have not allowed 🚫 the situation to become in extremis.
@@1stChaCha regulations.
Exactly
that’s why passing on the right is “advised”, not “required”
Playing chicken eh?
Navy has there own rule book called IALA … dictates rules of the road for all vessels on water ways and they don’t say or use right … every ship is to do a port to port pass it’s gets tricky we use IALA Bravo (International association of light house authorities) north South America Japan Korea Philippines all use Bravo the rest use Alpha where you pass starboard to starboard right side of the ship … there no exception unless a ship is in distress or restricted in her ability to maneuver like a carrier in a small channel will stay in the middle so doesn’t not run aground … it’s not usually it’s the law captains have discretion to do the opposite in case of an emergency
@@joshualorenz7879The IALA Maritime Buoyage System has nothing to do with the "rules of the road", or this video. They are 2 different publications.
@@joshualorenz7879I think A region still use the same rule, should turn to the right., meet Port to Port side. Sorry for my bad English
Wouldn't this fall under captains discretion in certain scenarios though? We all know most "rules" are guidelines
The navy literally said both ships were in communication entire time
And why didn't they change direction early enough?
@@1TeddySOSthey did
@@1TeddySOSthe angle looked like it was super close
This navy tradition....playing chicken.
@@1TeddySOSthey were discussing pronouns.
Both vessels made passing arrangement “I’ll see you on the two (whistles) Captain.”
Right. See you on the one may be more common. But it isn't mandatory. As long as whoever is at the wheel has arranged with the other vessel. Sometimes you'll hear "one bell or two?". I've even used horn signals in the past on the great lakes when the other guy had radio issues.
@@blackhawks81HI always use 3 and 9 cause at some point they gotta pass the side. Just easier to pick a side
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They were just playing the legendary game called chicken
Passing without hitting each other generally takes priority
The ships were in constant communication and both vessels knew exactly what they were doing
Completely!
Yes they did. Playing chicken.
I'm sure. Looked very calculated. This is NBC and they're using a text to speech
Comms went something like this:
Command Ship: I'm not moving, you are!
Destroyer: I have enough firepower to destroy several of you, plus I'm on an important mission. Move now!
Command Ship: Well I'm 4 times the displacement and mass so when we collide in 6 seconds......
@@-_.._._--_.-.-_-_-_-...-.- This was my thought as well! You move! No,you move! No,I need to go to port YOU MOVE.NO,I MUST leave port MOVE NOW.NOO...Seconds before impact,lighter boat is like Nah,I was just fw you big bro way to stand on business but don't forget.I run circles around your big ahh 😂
What I just saw was two ships making a decision to do what seemed like the best and only option to avoid a collision. They didn't collide. Good job ya'll! Lives and millions of dollars saved!
Exactly
They can detect a guppy twenty miles away but, two giant vessels headed towards each other with all of the best technology in the world and visual nearly rammed each other and you're good with that
You should look up what range battle ships fight at and then ask yourself why were they so close together considering they can detect shallow craft miles away
Well I don't think there would be much life lost
But toooons of money and lives ruined maybe
@@CraigGrant-sh3in Ahh almost forgot humans NEVER make mistakes. Theyre perfect 100% in every single way possible, never make any errors 👍
That was a proper zig. The conditions weren't right for a zag.
lol exactly 👏
Facts
Have just heard that in series by president moss 5he zig and not zag😂😂
😂
They made the correct call. The mandatory investigation will be swift.
What happened.
They avoided eachother by atleast 200m
Why am I here...
no they didnt lol
They avoided a crash so they successfully avoided a crash. They did nothing wrong.
but why leave it so close?
US naval war ships have been using that channel in San Diego harbor for over 120 years. I think they know what they are doing.
That explains all the collisions we have... Oh wait 🤣
I guess our guys are poorly trained, there's usually multiple crashes every year. Same with our flights. Poor americans dying in training constantly.
@@Devilishlybenevolentonly time I hear about soldier in vehicles dying in training is helicopter or maybe sometimes plane crashes but the og comment is talking about boats.
@@mrsavagemans Yeah our boats crash yearly and it happens so often. You have to wonder what is negligence, what is stupidity and what is just bad training. Almost every year our ships crash and our sailors die. Though we don't hear about it too often, its a blip on the map and designed that way.
Then why did they go after the man who recorded the near collision ?
@@DevilishlybenevolentU.S navy ships have only collided 12 times since 1946 and there have been a total of 22 crashes since then. So on average there is a crash every 3.5 years.
Left was the right choice.
Aren't you silly.
But not in politics 🙄
When left is right and right is wrong we know we all in trouble
No it’s the left choice
Right wasn't the choice left??😅
This happens more than you think, even outside of the navy. As long as both vessels are in communication with (and both know basic mariner law and lingo) all will be fine
they were not the only ships in the channel, both violated federal law codified and enforced by DHS and the Coast Guard.....they are not allowed to travel down the center of the channel, and when approaching each other they are REQUIRED to pass on the right.
True. Standard yielding is only really necessary when neither can communicate. Otherwise it's just a coordinated maneuver. The same goes with aircraft flying close in formation. Fine if you don't sneak up on them and communicate your intentions.
Can you explain something… I’m confused because they did pass on their right. They turned left yes which meant they passed each other on the right, right?
@wheresmyparade well think of it like a road, you drive on the right side so cars goin the opposite direction would be passing on your left side, on the water it is expected we all stay to the right but if both Vessels communicate to turn hard to port no collision should happen
@@catchemup_jon636 I actually drive on the left side of the road… well not just me, my entire country. I do understand logistics what I don’t understand is that these two boats, did pass each other on the right.
Smaller vessel must move for larger ones (rule of boating on basically any liquid)
What other liquid do boats operate in other than water
@@GhostKidd-jx6kk🦅
@@GhostKidd-jx6kk oil floats on water also the universe and space is vast and never ending I’m sure there’s oceans on other worlds with other liquids far far away
@@abrams1408 how would he know what the rules are on liquids on different planets?
@@ThomasJeffersonEdwardsIV I’m just answering questions to my best extent if you wanna take the time to study every inch of every planet in all of ever expanding space matter time and even dimensions for mystery liquids and re teach all you learn to ppl be my guest
My god do you see how agile that little ship is?
I've never seen a boat half that size do a turn that sharp. Wow
The bigger ship won the chicken game. Congratulations to the officer.
i was thinking the same thing 😛😃😁
Ofc
I want to salute him
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Both Helmsmen: "I never know if they mean MY right or the other ship's right".
No, they both turned to the left.
@@johangambleputty7658 Passing on the right. Both passed each other on their right. No one said anything about turning… just passing.
@@wheresmyparadeRoger that's inland rules it's an intention to leave the other on their port side (one wistle?
That's why we use 1 and 2
Head-on passing on the 1 is always going to be starboard side of your vessel to the starboard side of their vessel. Opposite for the 2. And if you're being overtaken, the vessel overtaking you will have their port side to your starboard side if they intend to pass you on the 1.
Edit: whoops I typed my original comment backwards, it's correct now
@@ObnoxiousCamoToe But in this video, they didn’t pass each other on their port side? They passed each other on the right.
Just wanted to hug each other...
Normal day in the navy lol
During COVID
@@alinaqirizvi1441not service related xd
YES
Navy: we steered on the right. The camera is just mirrored😂😂😂
All ships entering ports use Civilian Pilots.
They take command of ships movements. So this isnt really thr fault of the Navy.
The helsman was just following directions.
the fact that they both turned the same side to avoid collision
Both ships would have been talking on the radio already and they would have waiting to turn after communicating their intentions and receiving a positive response from the other ship. I retired from the Coast Guard and spent many years on the bridge going in and out of ports and this is quite common in busy shipping ports like this.
Thank you for your many years of service! 🙋
@retiredcryptohunter9031 why are the ships required or advised to steer right? is there a legitimate reason having to do with waves or???
@@roupensarkissian7643 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Regulations_for_Preventing_Collisions_at_Sea
If it’s so common and just the usual result of a busy shipping lane then why was there an investigation? We don’t usually investigate common occurrences.
@@justmyopinion8395 there could be many reasons why there was an investigation BUT they might be saying there was an investigation just to get views 🤷🏻♂️
The bigger vessel probably preferred to stay further away from coast line possibly due to shallow water. Manouver was most likely agreed via communication before. Also the video has been sped up.
While the USS Harpers Ferry is a much bigger warship (16,000 tons vs 9210 tons) the Harpers Ferry only drafts 21 feet where the Momsen is 31 ft because of its sonar dome sticking down much further into the water.
@@dundonrlStill doesnt mean anything.
To me its bogus news.
International regulations for preventing collisions at sea:
Rule 2(b) States that one can deviate from the rules when trying to avoid immediate danger.
@madisivaste5601 Just saying one of the reasons why the Momsen went the way she did, instead of passing port to port side.
Its got nothing to do with what you said. Both ships are already on each others left so for them to keep going left was the safer smarter option. If they would of turn right the would of have to crossed each other centers which would of been far more dangerous.
@@dundonrl I agree. Passing on the right is the expectation unless there is some kind of agreement. The Momsen most certainly chose to pass on the left because of its 31 foot draft. I think the other commenters think that the investigation is about which side they passed on, when it is about the delay.
In the video you can see that its too late to maneuver their ships to the right because both are already left justified in their positions and its not safe anymore that they will both turn right to their starboard sides.. its good they applied their good judgement and common sense… aye salute!!!
You can clearly see that they aren't making any wake, which means that they weren't moving, until they both turned. This was NOT a near collision. The video is also sped up by a lot.
@@chevy383jtyup people cant tell its sped up because they dont look carefully. look at the crew scurrying about at light speed on the decks lol
@@a.t6066 18 other people appear to think the same thing that Hector thought. Hopefully they'll realize and accept that they were duped by a sped up video.
The rule is always “little guy has to move out of the way for the big boy”
I said something similar but some internet stranger insisted I was incorrect
Thats how people here in Lima Peru drives their cars.
Reference the Gross Tonnage Rule when in doubt.
The smaller boat Is more agile that's why
Except that they use all kinds of fancy words like "give way to vessels of greater displacement." Also they rules change a bit if sailing craft are involved but it always comes down to the more agile vessel letting the more pokey one go their way.
They did the correct thing at that second.
As long is constant communication is between both ships your good.
There wasn’t constant communication or they wouldn’t have had to perform evasive action.
Lots of ships are supposed to wait until the last minute to turn. Something about the fluid dynamics that essentially push them away from each other and the sucks them back to their center line.
maybe with the toys u play in ur bath, but not so much irl
@@MrPaxio💀☠
Apparently there's a lot of pushing and sucking on naval vessels, not sure why ?
@@MrPaxiothe ocean is just one big bath and this is a thing that applies on both scales in water
@@boenarrow yeah, what also applies is the insurance rates going 10x if you try to apply your bathtub logic to real life
I was a US Navy Boatswains mate and part of our job is to be helmsman. Passing on the right is a guideline, mostly. Many things are to be considered. For example, it is possible one of the ships was having issues with the steering system and that why they didn't turn off in the first place. If you don't wait and calculate the best I do at the time one ship could have followed the rule and turned directly into the path where the other ship could not have avoided contact due to the steering issue. But they have radio coms and radar and men on watch so they shoukd definitely not have gotten this close.
As a Vet USCG BM Coxswain whatever the cause of the near miss, it should have been communicated way farther in advance than this and should never have gotten to this point. Only possible allowable explanation would have been a steering and engine failure on both ships at the same time. Most likely it was poor leadership and anticipation on the bridge of both vessels.
@@mattterry30 100%!
Men on watch that couldn't spot the collision farther out 😅
BIDEN AND DEMOCRATS OPEN UP THE BOARDERS AND IT'S A ACT OF WAR AND TREASON
to busy watching tik tok videos!
When two bodies are heading right at each other, in any vehicle or on foot, you always pass on the right.
The coastguard advising the Navy is wild 💀
Cap'n Jack Sparrow " Hard a starboard?"
Mr Gibbs. "HARD A STARBOARD!!!"
They actually both turned to Port.
wrong.... they both turned to the port side.
But the first ship on lefthand side of the second ship so it was better to stear on to the left Amen
So thy did go jod no accident no crash
Plus the larger vessel may have preferred to stay further away from shore!! Thanks to this video tho now we can’t watch the harbor anymore. Some government agency showed up and pulled the guys cameras off his business. He has a business on a peak overlooking the harbor and started off with only one camera but over time and as popularity increased he got better cameras and more of them. There’s ppl who would sit and watch his channel all day, different angles and everything but not no more. I think they stated it was “compromising National security” to post navy actions on the www, not like China doesn’t have satellites that track all our vessels just as we do theirs!!
The rule of thumb is passing on the right so everyone knows where the other guy is going. This works even if communication is broken and keeps everyone safe.
Yes. It is very common for river tow boats pushing 1000 or more feet of barges to pass on either side of each other. Wherever there is room.
Even before radios, they communicated their intentions and acknowledgments via whistle or horn signals.
Actually the rule is that smaller ships yield to larger ones due to better maneuverability.
This applies at a further distance but not on close call. The maritime rules should be modified for close distance Bow to Bow maneuvering, the rule might be "Where the bow and the longitudinal axis of the ship is dominantly situated, it should turn on that direction away from the incoming ship to avoid collision. But for close Bow to Body maneuvering at any subtended angle, the transversal heading ship should slow down, apply reverse thrust and stop until the route heading is clear.
It’s not a rule of thumb - it’s the law. This was directly in contravention of the Rules of the Road and had there been a collision, the CO, Navigator and OOW of both units would’ve been prosecuted!
@@2023crosshair-wa6MnYou’re not meant to approach vessels to that sort of distance, because it leads to collisions. Enshrining exactly how to manoeuvre in a situation in law is ludicrous and would be detrimental to safety on the high seas and waters connected therewith navigable by seagoing vessels.
The military does so but it is heavily Co-ordinated and there are specific NATO rules that are intended as an addendum to Rules of the Road that delineate who gives way to who for ships conducting these sorts of manoeuvres.
That was the right decision at that moment
Steering to the right will take longer current make them crash keeping in communication at this point for the best decided way to go
The rule of passing on the right is only advised when you have enough time to turn but in situations like this the coast guard allows emergency maneuvers to avoid head on collisions. It’s in the rule book
Yes but the Harpers Ferry is blatantly on the wrong side of the harbor channel. This is San Diego Harber and it can handle all sizes of ships including Nimits Class aircraft carriers.
Journalist watching them post TTS news clips be like “I’m getting replaced by AI😂😅”
I mean, if we think long term... We're all getting replaced by AI
Bro had the whole ocean💀💀
That was near the choke point between San Diego and Coronado Island, one of the tightest areas either of those ships usually encounter. They shouldn’t have been that close to begin with but it’s a pretty tight area no doubt. I used to be on the bigger ship of the two, a few years back.
Two Navy Vessels made a logical decision. Great News 🙌🏻
The tone of the narration sounds like Navy ships steering at the last minute is how it's done.
There at practice!!! Communication is the key to happiness.
Naval investigation: "Well, it was on our right side so I decided to go left." Some one's in for a court marshal.
Nope. If they'd passed to the R, they would have collided Bow to Bow, because they were already too far to the left (not center or right) to enable each to turn to the right.
@@anneriggs6609 I believe that's what I said.
@rc4688 he can't read don't worry
Let the restrictions and extra duty begin! The Captains and Admirals will be in contact with the commands responsible for sure.
Even the U.S. Navy gets confused with the whole Port/Starboard thing. 😅
Not at all whatsoever.. there was no confusion there.
You dont even know what they're doing but good job criticizing what you don't understand.
Passing on a side is a guideline not the rule.
Dummy.
Keep spreading ignorance
Starboard = right, Port = left. Simple
Port = 4 letters, Left = 4 letters. There, made it easy.
Advised, not required.. they definitely did the right move in this situation
Ground breaking video thank you ..life changing
They are on the right of each other!
Ah yes, a game of water chicken
Thats actually a thing you do in maritime travel to, listen yo this, not hot each other
Steering at the last minute creates a water barrier pushing ships away. Passing too late pulls the ships close together and the aft may slam into the other ship.
There wasn't enough ocean on either side of them close call😂😂
Captain: LEFT!! GO LEFT!
Pilot: oops I thought you said West.
Cabinboy: i thought the manual said we're suppose to turn right...
I heard in tight channels that the ships prefer to keep the maneuver close because the interactions help re-center.
"Texas Chicken"
Basic Seamanship...follow the inland rules of the road and communicate via bridge to bridge. Simple! (Ret. OSCS)
Your tax dollars at work
Your brain failing you.
Out of context, two navy vessels aboiding eachother while in communication the whole time...
What about tax dollars?
You don't even understand what theyre doing.
But good job, criticizing what you don't understand
Imagine getting investigated by the navy for taking a left turn
They were too far off a path to take the right pass, had to navigate left of each other. Glad the were communicating their intentions.
This is normal, ship’s passing in narrow channels wait until the last minute to turn as the pressure differential helps them pass without hitting each other or running aground. Casual Navigation made a good video explaining it
luckily everyone survived
Solid case of “look out the window”
Good communication is key...Not a big deal...
This is so much better with the sound turned off
I think the wierd starting angle caused them to go the other way, but I know nothing about ships 🤣
Fleet Admiral Armchair here! I just wanted to point out that procedure should always be paramount to a free nation! These proud men and women serving the greater good and whatnot. I feel the thing here is what definitely happened and that is what makes our great country...uh...great! Ok, i'll take any questions? Yes? You there...oops, sorry, Time's up! Go Navy!
Is there’s nothing better to report than two ships doing ship stuff?
Destroyer: Hey... Mama.
Mothership: Hey son, watch out, I am to old to dodge the coalition so step aside😂
I don't think about my right and left when I just wake up either
That procedure would all depend upon the circumstances at the time . That passage looked very active with other non military traffic. Both ships had to avoid all of the other vessels and avoid groundings.They timed the turns precisely. Both ships had personnel checking the surrounding waters for any possible danger including other vessels.👀👀👀👀
You can tell the bigger ship started going right but it realized that the smaller one started going left, it had no choice, or possibly collide.
never forget the USS Liberty and the brave men who lost their lives that day
They have done correctly. They have discussed among themselves as they were left hand side of each other.
Well you can see that the far ship already tried to go right to avoid them, but realized it made more sense to just go left because they were already headed that way around them
Read the script for me in the most dead pan non emotional voice you can give me.
Nailed it.
The move by the ship on the left is called "Imma outta here"
By the looks it was the best move under the circumstances, but what flow was the current going?
They did the right thing at that point, their problems happened way before that
Water and Air both use rules of the right. You always pass to the right if there is no communication so that no one makes the mistake and steers into the other vessel.
Uss Momsen: “THEY ARE BROADSIDE, MAN THE CANNONS”
"Well, we already turned incorrectly. FIRE ALL WEAPONS, BROADSIDE!"
The greatest game of chicken ever played
Theyre so undetectable that they detect each other lol
both captains are prideful and only turn when scared. that's a firing
Legend has it that they are still under investigation
The large ship went starboard initially, until he realized that the other was going port and had to readjust to avoid collision
They did what was best.
Someones dad: All this ocean and you drive the boat at the only other boat in the port
Foreshortening resulting from the telephoto lens gives the appearance of the ships being closer than in actuality.
What did your investigation find?
Investigator: yea nobody was looking forward
Ah the old game of chicken. I can’t imagine how that went down.
“Hey bro. Wanna play chicken?”
“You can’t play chicken with battleships! You’ll be courtmartialed!” “Nah, I’ll probably get chewed out. I been chewed out before.”
They were too far to the left of each other to turn to the right. This video is illogical.
How it feels when Introvert about to walk past another Introvert
Whoever was driving that little boat is in deep doo
How is this legitimately an NBC News short?
I recall hearing that the left was the correct way to turn to avoid collisions
What I see is lives being saved no matter what to book says.
We're looking through a zoom lens so we actually can't tell how close these ships are from each other. It looks close but it might not have been close at all. Zoom lenses do crazy things.
Right doesn't always mean right.
The commander was showing off his new heels & wig and was distracted.
It's the "New Navy."
Theres a difference between following protocol and knowing when you shouldnt to avoid injury/death.
They were already too close to turn right and the safest option was left
I thought it was taught in navy school the rules of the seas that says which side to veer to when facing oncoming ship?
Both the crews in the control room of the ships must be having a tea time.
Port to port is the standard maritime requirement. But, when in extremis, do whatever is safe and prudent.