A couple points, more than just Mk 48 torpedoes are used in the video. Harpoon and some other systems are used as well. One way you can tell the difference is the explosion. IF the ship rises up and snaps in half, it is a torpedo. Mk 48 is designed to break the keel of a ship, i.e. snap it into two distinct pieces. Harpoon and other missiles are designed to hole the ship and blow it apart from the inside out. It may take 2-3 Harpoons depending on the ship, its armor and where the missile penetrates. For most ships it only takes ONE Mk 48 torpedo to break it in half. Ships the size of aircraft carriers etc, may take a second torpedo or more depending on size tonnage and mass. But whatever ship it is, unless they have a top rated damage control crew, the ship is likely to sink even if it does not literally snap in half. I am former United States Navy Active, now medically retired due to service connected injuries as of 2014.
Our company designed the sensory electronics for the Mk48 torpedo. I was one of the design engineers, and later for testing the actual performance. Originally the MK48 was intended to have a nuclear warhead, and the entire weapons section was short and lightweight. Due to treaties, the Navy altered it have only a conventional explosive warhead. This dramatically changed the weight distribution, made it heavier, and as a result it had less range, less speed, and clumbsier to handle. We analyzed hundreds of runs against both surface ships and submarines, and delivered the algorithms as to where the best explosive power was delivered. Submarines are tough to defeat, since the torpedo may go along side, below, or above the target, at varying angles, aspect ratios, and varying closure speeds (including nose-on as in the movie). However, I guarantee that the MK48 is able to handle all of these, and there is no escape unless you are basically out of range, and if that, the Captain is a fool for firing and wasting it.
If you want to be extra impressed, that Oliver Hazard Perry class frigate would have kept going after that first hit, had there been a crew aboard. That first hit was above the waterline. And the Samuel B. Roberts took a lot worse than that in 1988.
Et vous avez envoyé deux bombes atomiques sur des civils innocents,votre karma vous rattrapera tôt ou tard,vous êtes tellement bon que vous vous massacrez entre vous tous les jours,Einstein a dit des ricains,( les américains sont passés de la barbarie à la décadence sans connaître la civilisation !!!!) .
@@CharlieGroh It always takes at least some minutes. Not a good idea to rush this. One collision or dropping a tool can be loud enough to give you away. Submarines are stalkers. If you didn't screw up, you have plenty of time.
The U.S. may have launched its first ballistic missile submarine in '57, but it wouldn't have had any missiles. Lockheed's first successful sub launch of the Polaris missile wasn't until late '59 or early '60. My grandfather worked on that after retiring from the Navy. He had a big certificate commemorating the launch.
Remember exercise JTFEX 01-2? It was in 2001 when the German stealth submarine U-24 “sunk” the “USS Enterprise”? The submarine passed all the security ships and surfaced right next to the aircraft carrier, having fictitiously sunk it. The assessment of a submarine always depends on its intended purpose
does this mean that warships are obsolete because to vulnerable ? i am reading of warships heavily damaged by unmanned speedboats in the black sea I wonder what they could do of them new gen missiles ,,, swiss cheese ?
Are you sure? Have you ever been in the navy, assigned to a ship? In fact have to ever had the testicular fortitude to enlist in any branch of the military? Hmm? 🤔 No, I thought not, Dear Mr Armchair Knowitall.
@Thwarptide Testicular fortitude? I'd imagine he is too intelligent, and has excellent analytical foresight to realize that joining a government war branch these days is akin to agreeing to be a puppet for a corrupt regime of psychotic zealots and despots who believe human life is a currency. I'm glad more and more people are waking up to how insanely ignorant it is to pimp yourself out for a rogue imperialist nation led by a shadow government hell bent on world domination through globalism and control. No thanks ✌️
This is just like going to the shooting range with a host of new weapons...The target is toast! All I can say beyond that is that ISN'T THIS A LITTLE OVERKILL, BOYS? LMFAO!
The last ship I served on was an OHP class frigate. FFG 37 out of Pearl. She was decommissioned after I left her and it wasn't too many years ago that she met the same fate as many of the ships in this video. There really isn't any better way for a retired warship to go.
90% of the loading bits in the video were the UGM-84 which is the Harpoon missile. Harpoons take a bit more time to load than a standard heavyweight torpedo given the extra steps.
I would guess the procedure is the same or very close to the same in all subs. The concern I would have by the time the torpedo is loaded and ready to fire it’s too late for the sub and crew. It also to me indicated the torpedo is not "locked and loaded"
despite all those electronics and who knows what other fanzy gadgets they have, it is still paper and pencil and every detail written down, the favorite means of control or command.
I'm a plankowner USS Horne DLG-30 She sat in the San Francisco mothball fleet for years and towed to Hawaii for cinque pac. Word was she didn't want to sink..missile strike blew a hole midship..all the way through..
Also are there torpedos loaded in the tubes at all times ready to be used? My guess is due to safety reasons. And, there isn’t too much to show us because of security reasons and surprises for the enemy.
I had a student in my class who had worked on subs for the Navy. He told me what they would do on the 6 month missions. It was drilling holes in weapons to extract the alcohol from inside. Of course no alcohol, no gps). When the sub returned to Virginia, they occasionally had to fire a missile, but with no alcohol for the gyroscope, the missile would go all over the place. He laughed when he told me. I didn’t think it was funny at all.
I am a Navy veteran and retired Army 1SG. In the Navy I enlisted as an STS but, in sub school I found out, had no clue, that I was claustrophobic. They redid my contract for STG and it was back to San Diego and FLEASWTRACENPAC for STG “C” school. Aboard my destroyer the TM’s were in my division. As were the GMT’s for the ASROC. I wanted subs badly but, that was the 2nd of life’s great letdowns. Switched to the Army with sights set on SF and made it through SFAS but, blew my ACL in the 18D “Q” course. 3rd letdown. 🤔🥴 have to love the Bubble Heads. 🫡
Once I saw a vid of a naval fire fight in the Indian ocean with modern weapons .and that was scary crazy... Now nations are 10 times more armed so imagine
Face cover masks block exhaled droplets to reduce airborne pathogens. Unlike civilians, military gets 100% compliance. Obviously the video was recorded at different times some when face masks were not required.
It seems to me that a total refit of such a large hull, such as the one sunk, would be more cost effective and faster than building something new. Or a partial refit then put it up for sale to Allies. I mean, if the Chinese can turn the Varyag into a supposed threat why couldn’t Iceland buy it and double its fleet or Philippines buy it, weld it to the Sierra Madre on the Second Thomas Shoal and double the “landmass.”
You can do that to a point. But after a certain age, no one will want them, and these type of exercises are often more important to readiness than a few extra bucks in the pocket.
Uhm... yeah... that's a Frigate, the SMALLEST US Blue Water ship we had... and all of those were retired for the Little Crappy Ship (LCS). Though we've started building "Frigates" again that are the same size as our Destroyers...
In this age of modern technology they still use a periscope when they can just put a mast with cameras that can rotate 360 degrees connected to monitors inside the sub. All they have to do is look at the monitors, no need to peek through and rotate the periscope everytime.
@n3qq4he7u I'm not even talking about CCD. What I'm referring to is a mast with a mounted camera that can also be raised or retrieved connected to a monitor or computer screen that eliminates the hugging of periscope with your face to scan the areas above water. All you need is to look in the monitor or computer screen. Same principle with Apache and tanks where they have screens that show the target. I've seen one in an SSGN sub before so I don't know why they don't convert all of them.
I know these test are necessary, but couldnt you just ironclad an old fishing boat for simple tests? That tank lander does not look that old or in bad shape. It seems like such a waste when we could sell it to another country or outfit it as a backup.
There will come a day when battery technology will power subs on long missions. No diesel-electric, just electric. I'm sure the US Navy is keeping abreast of evolving battery technology, and maybe even funding it. Once someone comes up with that battery our subs will be as quiet as a mouse pissing on a cotton ball.
They were a fantastic class of ship, inexpensive, but as you can see that they can take a punch. Look up the story of the Samuel B Roberts and Operation Praying Mantis.
A couple points, more than just Mk 48 torpedoes are used in the video. Harpoon and some other systems are used as well. One way you can tell the difference is the explosion. IF the ship rises up and snaps in half, it is a torpedo. Mk 48 is designed to break the keel of a ship, i.e. snap it into two distinct pieces. Harpoon and other missiles are designed to hole the ship and blow it apart from the inside out. It may take 2-3 Harpoons depending on the ship, its armor and where the missile penetrates. For most ships it only takes ONE Mk 48 torpedo to break it in half. Ships the size of aircraft carriers etc, may take a second torpedo or more depending on size tonnage and mass. But whatever ship it is, unless they have a top rated damage control crew, the ship is likely to sink even if it does not literally snap in half. I am former United States Navy Active, now medically retired due to service connected injuries as of 2014.
Thank you for your service and taking one for the country I hope your injuries have healed.
The most powerful Man in the World is not the President of The United States, but the Captain of a Nuclear Submarine....
The prez still commands the captain but If captain went rogue, then yes he/she/it will be the most powerful person in the world.
@@O.G.KeV.I imagine they have some sort of computer failsafe to prevent that now
@@joshr8666 lol
"Man has not power, but responsibility." - Tuscarora
@@O.G.KeV.Nope. Subs can't arm nukes without the codes.
Our company designed the sensory electronics for the Mk48 torpedo. I was one of the design engineers, and later for testing the actual performance. Originally the MK48 was intended to have a nuclear warhead, and the entire weapons section was short and lightweight. Due to treaties, the Navy altered it have only a conventional explosive warhead. This dramatically changed the weight distribution, made it heavier, and as a result it had less range, less speed, and clumbsier to handle. We analyzed hundreds of runs against both surface ships and submarines, and delivered the algorithms as to where the best explosive power was delivered. Submarines are tough to defeat, since the torpedo may go along side, below, or above the target, at varying angles, aspect ratios, and varying closure speeds (including nose-on as in the movie). However, I guarantee that the MK48 is able to handle all of these, and there is no escape unless you are basically out of range, and if that, the Captain is a fool for firing and wasting it.
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Agree
@@DominionEvolution What makes you think he's making that up?
Bullshit. KIDDING. I believe you. Thank yo for defending the USA
So much technology, so many ressources, so much know-how we would need to HEAL the world instead of destroying it.
Impressive and mind blowing. The sub torpedoes are surgically precise -- like everything else the Navy does. ♥
If you want to be extra impressed, that Oliver Hazard Perry class frigate would have kept going after that first hit, had there been a crew aboard. That first hit was above the waterline. And the Samuel B. Roberts took a lot worse than that in 1988.
Watchin this and other NAVY posts gives me comfort as my 27 yr. old son serves our country aboard the USS Theodor Roosevelt CVN71.
Et vous avez envoyé deux bombes atomiques sur des civils innocents,votre karma vous rattrapera tôt ou tard,vous êtes tellement bon que vous vous massacrez entre vous tous les jours,Einstein a dit des ricains,( les américains sont passés de la barbarie à la décadence sans connaître la civilisation !!!!) .
My son is on the TR as well!
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So basically, the sub has to follow the target for 7 days, because that's how long it takes to load a torpedo.
I think you're spot on 😂
Yah, I was thinking that, too. Just how fast can they get one in the tube and fire?
@@CharlieGroh It always takes at least some minutes. Not a good idea to rush this. One collision or dropping a tool can be loud enough to give you away.
Submarines are stalkers. If you didn't screw up, you have plenty of time.
If they’re on a combat patrol, they’re already locked and loaded.
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The U.S. may have launched its first ballistic missile submarine in '57, but it wouldn't have had any missiles. Lockheed's first successful sub launch of the Polaris missile wasn't until late '59 or early '60. My grandfather worked on that after retiring from the Navy. He had a big certificate commemorating the launch.
Now they know how it feels to be a forklift driver
Ahh, The good old days and sure missing those days when active at sea. Sure do miss that life ! The bigger the boom the better the day is/was, LOL.
Thank you for a very educational and informative video.
"Reload torpedo!" Cue Jeopardy Theme.
The slowness of the process was the biggest surprise and take away for me. I know torpedoes are big and heavy, but surely this can be sped up.
Remember exercise JTFEX 01-2? It was in 2001 when the German stealth submarine U-24 “sunk” the “USS Enterprise”?
The submarine passed all the security ships and surfaced right next to the aircraft carrier, having fictitiously sunk it. The assessment of a submarine always depends on its intended purpose
"Fictitiously sunk" Ok.....Is that like almost pregnant? Almost won?
does this mean that warships are obsolete because to vulnerable ? i am reading of warships heavily damaged by unmanned speedboats in the black sea
I wonder what they could do of them new gen missiles ,,, swiss cheese ?
Right On Go Army!
Nothing like being in a tube with 100+ other members of crew and wearing a mask thinking it will help LMFAO
They ALWAYS "Train" in calm seas and clear weather. Now thats the U.S. Navy we've all grown to be fond of...
Are you sure? Have you ever been in the navy, assigned to a ship?
In fact have to ever had the testicular fortitude to enlist in any branch of the military?
Hmm? 🤔
No, I thought not, Dear Mr Armchair Knowitall.
@Thwarptide Testicular fortitude? I'd imagine he is too intelligent, and has excellent analytical foresight to realize that joining a government war branch these days is akin to agreeing to be a puppet for a corrupt regime of psychotic zealots and despots who believe human life is a currency. I'm glad more and more people are waking up to how insanely ignorant it is to pimp yourself out for a rogue imperialist nation led by a shadow government hell bent on world domination through globalism and control. No thanks ✌️
I can assure we didn’t train in clear calm weather only. Day or night in all conditions. Hoorah.
This is just like going to the shooting range with a host of new weapons...The target is toast! All I can say beyond that is that ISN'T THIS A LITTLE OVERKILL, BOYS? LMFAO!
The last ship I served on was an OHP class frigate. FFG 37 out of Pearl. She was decommissioned after I left her and it wasn't too many years ago that she met the same fate as many of the ships in this video. There really isn't any better way for a retired warship to go.
I was on FFG-36. You’re right, but it still makes me sad to see these. I watch hoping it’s not my ship in the sinkex.
Best part of torpedo and harpoon tests ... more berthing space for taller guys to stretch out their legs after duty hours.
Watching how long it takes them load a single torpedo asks how long does it really take in combat
In combat, the tubes are already loaded.
90% of the loading bits in the video were the UGM-84 which is the Harpoon missile. Harpoons take a bit more time to load than a standard heavyweight torpedo given the extra steps.
Sinkex is the most fun I ever had on a Boat
THIS IS WHY NO SHIPS NO MATTER HOW POWERFUL OR LARGE THEY ARE CAN EVER WITHSTAND TORPEDOES!!
You would think the process would be faster to simulate battle speed.
The last sighting of the mighty USS Denver LPD-9.
Gut so !
The Harpoon is back in the sub inventory !! Finally.
That torpedo hit was devastating.
It would be nice to see some new footage of torpedo firing instead of the same rehashed vid presented as such.
there's probably nothing to see? its a woosh of bubbles out of the tube
I would guess the procedure is the same or very close to the same in all subs. The concern I would have by the time the torpedo is loaded and ready to fire it’s too late for the sub and crew.
It also to me indicated the torpedo is not "locked and loaded"
YUP< LOL.
The ship is a Perry Class Frigate roughly 7000 tonnes, massive. Yeah nah mate.
Domanda una semplice domanda ma alla nave e una volta colpita affonda e vi ha lasciata sul fondale oppure viene presa e riportata alla dismessa’?
How long does it take to load and shoot a torpedo at a fast moving ship that is attacking you ???????
despite all those electronics and who knows what other fanzy gadgets they have, it is still paper and pencil and every detail written down, the favorite means of control or command.
four 16RP200-1-CM engines per boat, each rated at 3,350 brake horsepower.
I'm a plankowner USS Horne DLG-30
She sat in the San Francisco mothball fleet for years and towed to Hawaii for cinque pac.
Word was she didn't want to sink..missile strike blew a hole midship..all the way through..
Also are there torpedos loaded in the tubes at all times ready to be used? My guess is due to safety reasons. And, there isn’t too much to show us because of security reasons and surprises for the enemy.
The big thing is that this is an exercise in safe waters. This is not a ship at battle stations or anywhere near an enemy combatant.
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It also costs a massive amount of money to man and maintain a large ship.
@@vapoetyes
I noticed the torpedoes have flat front ends. Thought they would be more 'pointy', more aerodynamic? Could somebody explain please? Thanks
Sad to see the FFGs being scuttled. I was in charge of buying parts for the 5” MK45 and MK13 GMLS built at FMC/NOD (later known as FMC Naval Systems).
"The Honeywell PHD6 is a state of the art multi-gas detector."
I had a student in my class who had worked on subs for the Navy. He told me what they would do on the 6 month missions. It was drilling holes in weapons to extract the alcohol from inside. Of course no alcohol, no gps). When the sub returned to Virginia, they occasionally had to fire a missile, but with no alcohol for the gyroscope, the missile would go all over the place. He laughed when he told me. I didn’t think it was funny at all.
He was lying.
how do such young people operate and maintain all of this stuff? im thinking at least 15yrs experience to feel comfortable
everyone in charge is older and expirenced. the rest of them are generally young kids still in their 20's
Gottlieb Points
I am a Navy veteran and retired Army 1SG. In the Navy I enlisted as an STS but, in sub school I found out, had no clue, that I was claustrophobic. They redid my contract for STG and it was back to San Diego and FLEASWTRACENPAC for STG “C” school. Aboard my destroyer the TM’s were in my division. As were the GMT’s for the ASROC. I wanted subs badly but, that was the 2nd of life’s great letdowns. Switched to the Army with sights set on SF and made it through SFAS but, blew my ACL in the 18D “Q” course. 3rd letdown. 🤔🥴 have to love the Bubble Heads. 🫡
I wonder what the skip range is when bullets are fired? 4 or 5 miles?
I saw a few missiles being launched from the launch tank, but their power was not as powerful as a torpedo
What kind of decoy ships are used for this exercises?
It's dangerous with bare hands
Loading the torpedo seems like a long process. I wonder how fast it can be done in combat.
6:52 Tiger Woods popped onboard to give assistance
Once I saw a vid of a naval fire fight in the Indian ocean with modern weapons .and that was scary crazy... Now nations are 10 times more armed so imagine
man that's too slow loading a torpedo and frightening to be that slow
Fay Shores
guy on pad like wwowo slow down.he has never fly a helicopter. guy totally relaxed and know how to fly like that.😂 derrr
God help our enemies!
Face masks on a submarine. Almost as useful as screen doors.
..a mouse or something chewed a whole in my screen door...😩
Face cover masks block exhaled droplets to reduce airborne pathogens. Unlike civilians, military gets 100% compliance. Obviously the video was recorded at different times some when face masks were not required.
It seems to me that a total refit of such a large hull, such as the one sunk, would be more cost effective and faster than building something new. Or a partial refit then put it up for sale to Allies. I mean, if the Chinese can turn the Varyag into a supposed threat why couldn’t Iceland buy it and double its fleet or Philippines buy it, weld it to the Sierra Madre on the Second Thomas Shoal and double the “landmass.”
You can do that to a point. But after a certain age, no one will want them, and these type of exercises are often more important to readiness than a few extra bucks in the pocket.
Massive US Navy Ship... a teeny-weeny Perry class Frigate... why am I sucker for these clickbaits... lol
очень крутая лодка. Прекрасное оружие империи.
Uhm... yeah... that's a Frigate, the SMALLEST US Blue Water ship we had... and all of those were retired for the Little Crappy Ship (LCS). Though we've started building "Frigates" again that are the same size as our Destroyers...
Is that where all my tax dollars are going? 😮
Nahhh..as if you have a huge tax like the business men😂
In this age of modern technology they still use a periscope when they can just put a mast with cameras that can rotate 360 degrees connected to monitors inside the sub. All they have to do is look at the monitors, no need to peek through and rotate the periscope everytime.
They do have very high yes CCD cameras on/in the scopes. Study this a bit better.
@n3qq4he7u I'm not even talking about CCD. What I'm referring to is a mast with a mounted camera that can also be raised or retrieved connected to a monitor or computer screen that eliminates the hugging of periscope with your face to scan the areas above water. All you need is to look in the monitor or computer screen. Same principle with Apache and tanks where they have screens that show the target. I've seen one in an SSGN sub before so I don't know why they don't convert all of them.
@@PurpleHaze4me Redundancy, Why not have both if one fails hopefully the other wont.
Hate to tell you, Submarines aren't the only vessels with torpedoes. Your site is good for a laugh though
Hope it don't take this long to load during a real situation or this is not going to work...
Oaprey is called aswell a widowmaker...
The process for loading and arming the munitions in the torpedo tubes seems very complex and in the heat of battle, maybe a little too complex.
They don’t reload during combat, they have 8 tubes loaded during war. They’re used for hit and run, and hunting specific targets.
Maybe the wife of the captain not the captain😂
Then they attribute pollution to cars
Maybe stop driving one then
I know these test are necessary, but couldnt you just ironclad an old fishing boat for simple tests? That tank lander does not look that old or in bad shape. It seems like such a waste when we could sell it to another country or outfit it as a backup.
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if they only they made our cars like this
some dramatic music for an attack on a stationary and defenseless target
Does the torpedo come in next video?
There will come a day when battery technology will power subs on long missions. No diesel-electric, just electric. I'm sure the US Navy is keeping abreast of evolving battery technology, and maybe even funding it. Once someone comes up with that battery our subs will be as quiet as a mouse pissing on a cotton ball.
You're living in a metal tube, but yeah, I'm sure the facemask helps...
How come the flag is still flying? Goes down with the ship?
Pendant un entraînement, les USA détruisent leur propre navire.😅😅
im just suprised this clip art video had 1.2 million views
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Bull that Perry class Frigate took 2 cruise missiles bombs and a torpedo. It didn’t sink till 2nd torpedo
The canned sound is funny
Was that a Perry Class Frigate?
They were a fantastic class of ship, inexpensive, but as you can see that they can take a punch. Look up the story of the Samuel B Roberts and Operation Praying Mantis.
@@vapoet I have to ask my cousin to see if he was on the Roberts, I was on a Knox class Frigate USS Donald B Beary FF1085
God forbid you had to shoot a torpedo fast!!
These things could be immensely improved with narration... the little captions gimmicks are a pita.
they're naan
What ever the hell 'naan' means... even so, narration would still be a trivial to implement improvement.
@@rwbishop I thought we were naming types bread. You started it with pita. I added naan. Your turn - maybe go with bagel?
Grow up.
@@rwbishop OK, so sourdough then.
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Ship has a wake but no propeller froth.
Just how gullible do you think we are.
حتا احنا اليمنين بانعيد لكم تجارب كثير
Then they will tell you too 😂
Are you a Hootie?
Protect the earth.
The government blows stuff up in the ocean, all while bitching about pollution.
What is the point in showing any of this stuff to our enemies ? Un less it is all old news that they already know about .
It’s nothing new and you can’t stop a sub if you can’t find it.
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Do you know chinese hypersonic torpedoes?..
Hardly a massive ship. It's one of the smallest. It's an Oliver Hazard Perry class Frigate
Sure, it looks cool, but for those of us that have served on ships that we're eventually targets for a SINKEX, its pretty hard to watch......
Com essa lentidão já teriam sido afundado
So what decides using a torpedo or missile to destroy a surface ship ?
Just a guess I would say range to target thinking a missile likely has greater range.
Size of the ship, presence of hostile air assets, distance to target, amount of screening ships, potential presence of hostile submarines, etc.
OHP frigate, old but better than most navies.Canada is a joke.
Old school conventional warfare instruments and weapons. The future of war is in chemistry and biology like weaponized DNA altering pandemics etc.
Di Indonesia gak ada namanya Kapal perang yang di pesiunkan
Selama belum terbelah dua gak bakal berhenti di dinaskan biarpun mogok di LANAL😂