anyone calling gigas trash does not know how to appreciate block punishing.. 10 frame punisher with 31 damage and a knockdown... is really a bless. Oh yea not to mention his arms' reach is near the same of jack-7. Im a jack main and its so frustrating to constantly remember what punisher to be used to every character. because his i10 - i12 punisher is basically shit.. Its a blessing to be able to go braindead a little bit, spamming 31 damage attack for every block-punishable attack
@@seanmachugh2318 it's frames, every move has its own frame so if the enemy is -12 you can then do a 12 frame attack and you will hit them because being negative in frames means you cannot move at all
4:55 unbelievable. when the AI inputs standing guard to block p.jack's df+1, it actually BACKWALKS FAST ENOUGH to avoid the punch altogether. this shits crazy man.
I always ask myself why he was so bad but then a better question would be why was I expecting something good to come from a character with “prototype” in the name
Same reason you'd be like: Oh hey an "Android" character cool. Why don't I pick this one? It just sounds like they were going for something interesting and then... well shit
"all you find are dead squirrels and roadkill" At this point I was expecting him to say that he'd rather eat the rotten asshole of the roadkill skunk and down it with beer than play p jack
@TheMainManSWE I use to play P Jack with my casual friends. We knew nothing about frames and all we had was the command list. One of the reason I used to play him is because my friends all spammed lasers and fire(devil and true ogre) at any range. P Jack was resistant to fire and he goes into auto windmill punches when he get hit by laser. The coolest thing about P Jack is when he tags in if you hold Up, he flies in from above rather than run in. My friends love to dash in and push buttons when you tag out, so when P Jack lands on their head it's always hilarious. Also his forward 3+4 while negative forever on hit and block can clip people trying to tag out(so amazing when you catch them). His regular throw can also be extended into a more damaging megaton punch which is nice.
this P.Jack here is like the Dan of Street fighter reminds me of some Mortal Kombat moves in the early 2000s (Deadly Alliance & Deception) where many moves wouldnt even touch your opponent no matter what you did.
To be honest Dan, at least in SF4, wasn't actually too terrible. Low-to-mid tier but definitely not completely useless like Jack here. In fact, Dan's one of my main characters in SF4 since he finally broke out of joke character status.
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Dan is still pretty trash. The SF4 series is definately the strongest he has been but his frame data is still crap on most of his normals for footsies and pressure outside of dankyaku. He's still in the bottom 5 for most of those games (Hakan and Deejay were worse than him at some points) but the balance for SF4 through to USF4 was a lot better compared to previous titles to a point the gap between characters wasn't too large.
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Hakan has some favourable matchups against a few characters that don't like grapplers. Boxer being the biggest one that's somewhat relevant since he's a solid mid/high tier. Dan's only good/even matchups are with the fellow bottom tiers you mentioned, so they're less relevant from a counterpick perspective.
I loved playing as P. Jack back in the day but yeah, he's always the worse Jack. Wish they'd just make him a customization option for future games though. Love that crazy spinning hand and the shades.
P. Jack has always given me the creeps. When I was a kid I hated seeing him in game. Even now, being 24 years old, I still hate seeing him. Mainly for his hands. How his right hand is rotating and the left is glitching out. Idk just makes me feel uneasy.
@@hbk2221 of course Its going to be all that long i think we can get ttt3 on 2035 cuz Tekken launches in consoles each 5 years but now with micro transition It Will take even longer
I had thought the "P" was for Power and for real got into an argument over it with a cousin that insisted it stood for Pneumatic. Now I see P is for Punished.
Prototype robots/mechs in most media: Too expensively powerful to mass-produce/so absurdly powerful that they're unstable. Prototype Jack: A genuinely unfinished work in progress. People call Tekken an exceedingly strange franchise, but they did at least portray this poor bucket of bolts with brutal realism.
In TTT2 He had the best sidestep moves His 1,1,1 was awesome and 1,1,2, a great debugger and a 1+2. And his body splash to armdrills to the face were awesome...I wish there was a way to have him in J7 Slot but with his unique moves. Even his ff 3+4 was hilarious not to mention Heihachi Daddy Beatdown grab
@@radoslav6861 I can't lie gigas is definitely low tier and needs a LOT of work. I've played with this character since before the game came out and stayed with him because I liked how he played regardless. Season 2 was supposed to make him his own character hence why I knew marduk had a chance of coming back. I just wish he had more throws and moves to make him unique. You won't believe how many people compare the two when they don't play them.
Despite P.Jack being underpowered (though not that bad), he's still the coolest Jack design. Has that T-1000 Terminator look, which is better than the newer Jack designs.
NYG5 I really do like this small/slimmer jack he really should come back in tekken 7 with his own move set different from jack 7 but I wouldn’t be mad if they shared some moves
Preston Cormick | He looked SUPER goofy and disproportionate in Tekken 1 as well. The only difference was that the machinery wasn’t as visible as it became later.
If you're going to make an android, why not give it gorilla arms? Otherwise, you just have a bipedal robot without gorilla arms, and that's a missed opportunity.
Believe it or not P.Jack isn't the worst character. The worst character in Tekken Tag Tournament is Tetsujin with P.Jack's moveset being his range is even shorter than P.Jacks. Don't believe me? I dare you to try him out in practice alone.
He might be the worst Jack in terms of actual usability, but when it comes to design, he’s by far the coolest. And he was a fucking deity in Tekken bowl.
TTT2 had plenty stages with people cheering for you. Tekken 7 only very few. TBH its sort of better that way. Street Fighter Vs crowds are fucking annoying and every person I know mods them out
TMMS: Mr. Meeseeks, i want you to win a tournament with Prototype Jack. Mr. Meeseeks: oh yeahhh! Cann dooo! *Later* Mr. Meeseeks: I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE! I JUST WANT TO DIE!!
I just realized that besides playing the arcade mode to unlock character endings, there are certain characters I never played in the Tag games. There are some I've never played , not even once, in T7.
I used to win with P. Jack back in the day by doing SS1 into SS2, hammer punch into power punch, and planting seeds (which is definitely his most damaging low--surprised MainMan didn't mention it at all). I guess that I could win with P. Jack shows how bad we were, haha.
![[TAS] Tekken Tag Tournament - P-Jack 🤖 / Gun Jack 🌚](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9Y-Z-75qdF0/mqdefault.jpg)
"So if this is blocked, we lose our turn. If this hits, we lose our turn even harder."
Biggest laugh I've had all week.
8:05
What were they thinking? Why would you EVER be punished more for a hit than a block?
@@SunlightGwyn
i feel like they intended to make him that way , a joke character just for laughs 😂.
@@SunlightGwyn He was a prototype for a defensive era of fighting games where Non violence was op
Prototype Jack: *exists*
Gigas: sigh in relief
Lmfao
smh
Prototype Jack: he's trash tier so you don't have to be.
anyone calling gigas trash does not know how to appreciate block punishing.. 10 frame punisher with 31 damage and a knockdown... is really a bless. Oh yea not to mention his arms' reach is near the same of jack-7. Im a jack main and its so frustrating to constantly remember what punisher to be used to every character. because his i10 - i12 punisher is basically shit.. Its a blessing to be able to go braindead a little bit, spamming 31 damage attack for every block-punishable attack
@@yudcrazy4964 Just because Gigas has good punishment doesn't mean that he's not garbage...
Jane: Can I please have my own Jack?
Dr. B: We already have a Jack at lab.
Jack at lab:
💀💀💀
Jane: Am I a joke to you?
Dr. Abel made P. Jack
Ye, but do you remember how good he was a BOWLING? 300km/h throws easy
chicken nugget
+1
S+ Tier Bowler
Omg just like Gigas in Tekken 7
A robot's prototype is a low tier
A superior evil entity is an high tier
Makes kinda sense
The range is so bad, it looks like Armor King is parrying those hits.
Lmao, I can't unsee.
-7 on block, and -8 on HIIIIIIIT?! NANI?!
Lol! 😂😂
You better pray to god that they were blocking during that so you are SAFER ON BLOCK
Nina has a move thats +4 on normal hit, and +2 on CH
What do all these numbers mean? 😩
@@seanmachugh2318 it's frames, every move has its own frame so if the enemy is -12 you can then do a 12 frame attack and you will hit them because being negative in frames means you cannot move at all
4:55 unbelievable. when the AI inputs standing guard to block p.jack's df+1, it actually BACKWALKS FAST ENOUGH to avoid the punch altogether. this shits crazy man.
I always ask myself why he was so bad but then a better question would be why was I expecting something good to come from a character with “prototype” in the name
Lol
Same reason you'd be like: Oh hey an "Android" character cool. Why don't I pick this one? It just sounds like they were going for something interesting and then... well shit
I don't care what anybody says despite his range issues prototype Jack is probably one of the coolest characters in Tekken
@@thevideos-rj8bo He started off as one of the dumbest looking characters in T1 only to then be one of the coolest looking since T2.
@@icu9313 perhaps we could say the same about a character that is an "apple", what can you expect from a fruit?
Nobody:
P-jack:
✋✊✋✊✋✊✋✊✋✊
👊🤜🤛🤜👊🤜🤛🤜👊👊
LMFAOOOO most underrated comment ever
I didn't even played tekken in my whole life, but here I am learning about why prototype jack isn't viable
I hope you starded from then, this game is just awesome
Not this in particular I mean, Tekken in general
Godlike tier in Tekken Bowl tho :3
what makes him so good in bowl?
@@icu9313 his foul
@@PeteLepley oh..
@@icu9313 Jack gets the bowling targeting computer heads-up display lol. I'd always pick him when I wanted to be a tryhard
Underpowered ? Yes ! But he was the Coolest jack.
True
True.
True..
Pour one out for the homie
Carl Johnson i don’t think he would be able to hold the glass or even grab it
This is why they made Jack with super long arms
Generated english captions: "what's up guys my mom's sweet Harappan girl doing awesome as always"
"all you find are dead squirrels and roadkill"
At this point I was expecting him to say that he'd rather eat the rotten asshole of the roadkill skunk and down it with beer than play p jack
u remind me of the dude who hated
Bo Rai Cho in every mortal kombat game
Mr gstar lol
"Abhorrent"
"DisGAHsting!"
God I miss gstar, where tf did he go 😭
@@rentalsnake6542 You and me both, pal.
"This is a violation of human rights, and something must be done as fast as humanly possible."
@TheMainManSWE I use to play P Jack with my casual friends. We knew nothing about frames and all we had was the command list. One of the reason I used to play him is because my friends all spammed lasers and fire(devil and true ogre) at any range. P Jack was resistant to fire and he goes into auto windmill punches when he get hit by laser. The coolest thing about P Jack is when he tags in if you hold Up, he flies in from above rather than run in. My friends love to dash in and push buttons when you tag out, so when P Jack lands on their head it's always hilarious. Also his forward 3+4 while negative forever on hit and block can clip people trying to tag out(so amazing when you catch them). His regular throw can also be extended into a more damaging megaton punch which is nice.
Alisa is an amazing character and she is resistant to lasers too 🦭 I don’t see why anyone would pick p jack
@@Ev3rmore Because he looks cool...
@@Ev3rmore you hate fun
this P.Jack here is like the Dan of Street fighter
reminds me of some Mortal Kombat moves in the early 2000s (Deadly Alliance & Deception) where many moves wouldnt even touch your opponent no matter what you did.
That was SO annoying on Deadly Alliance and specially Armageddon 🤣
To be honest Dan, at least in SF4, wasn't actually too terrible. Low-to-mid tier but definitely not completely useless like Jack here. In fact, Dan's one of my main characters in SF4 since he finally broke out of joke character status.
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Dan is still pretty trash. The SF4 series is definately the strongest he has been but his frame data is still crap on most of his normals for footsies and pressure outside of dankyaku. He's still in the bottom 5 for most of those games (Hakan and Deejay were worse than him at some points) but the balance for SF4 through to USF4 was a lot better compared to previous titles to a point the gap between characters wasn't too large.
@@caldw615 I wouldn't say he's completely bottom tier. I think he's second-from-worst with guys like Hakan, Dee Jay and E.Honda in the bottom.
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Hakan has some favourable matchups against a few characters that don't like grapplers. Boxer being the biggest one that's somewhat relevant since he's a solid mid/high tier. Dan's only good/even matchups are with the fellow bottom tiers you mentioned, so they're less relevant from a counterpick perspective.
I loved playing as P. Jack back in the day but yeah, he's always the worse Jack. Wish they'd just make him a customization option for future games though. Love that crazy spinning hand and the shades.
"You'll never find any nuggets, you will just find squirrels" - TMM 2019
After seeing this I hope Miguel players never complain about “range issues” ever again
It's like watching Chinese adult movies
The way armor kings moves in his stance makes me feel unconfortable
@@blackhand95 lmaooo
@@blackhand95 your comment made me die ngl
P. Jack has always given me the creeps. When I was a kid I hated seeing him in game. Even now, being 24 years old, I still hate seeing him. Mainly for his hands. How his right hand is rotating and the left is glitching out. Idk just makes me feel uneasy.
Same man
Can’t wait for ttt3, p.Jack/Gigass team will be unstoppable
Hope you're prepared to wait until 2030 dude
Lucky Chloe & Xiaoyu and Chloe & Josie would also be lit ass teams.
@@zoltanrostas-secola I don't think it'll be THAT long. I'll say at least 2026 or '27 at best.
@@hbk2221 of course Its going to be all that long i think we can get ttt3 on 2035 cuz Tekken launches in consoles each 5 years but now with micro transition It Will take even longer
Tag 3 wont come before Tekken 9.
The pattern is: 1,2,3, Tag1. 4,5,6,tag 2. 7,8,9, Tag 3
I actually want to seriously play Tekken Tag Tournament 1 Prototype Jack now, to do what they say can't be done.
Even with all these drawbacks, I still would play P. Jack.
"mom can I have Jack-7??"
"No, we have Jack-7 at home."
Jack-7 at home:
Cant wait for another 5 years or so when retards move onto the different comments pasted everywhere.
@@nathanl8769 wut
So I dunno why as a kid I thought the P stood for "Platinum".
Oh god
was I wrong.
I thought it was “Private”
You were such a dumb kid. No I'm just joking bruv.
i thought p jack means paul jack like because he has down 1 and 2
I had thought the "P" was for Power and for real got into an argument over it with a cousin that insisted it stood for Pneumatic.
Now I see P is for Punished.
@@ViolacTrough lmfao
I'll give one good thing about TTT Prototype Jack's low tier rating: in a way, he succeeds in being different from Jack 2 and Gun Jack.
Both Jack 2 and Gun Jack were mediocre at best in TTT1.
I absolutely adore pjack's design. My shitty team in tag2 was pjack and ganryu
I sub-mained pjack & nina/marduk once i got the crane custom item...so many fun combos with that ender
I liked using Xiaoyu and Angel.
Tag 2 was very balanced tho, Even trash tier could win tourneys
I'd imagine this is wut they were aiming for with a prototype character.
Prototype robots/mechs in most media: Too expensively powerful to mass-produce/so absurdly powerful that they're unstable.
Prototype Jack: A genuinely unfinished work in progress.
People call Tekken an exceedingly strange franchise, but they did at least portray this poor bucket of bolts with brutal realism.
This is where the proverb "jack shit" comes from
In TTT2
He had the best sidestep moves
His 1,1,1 was awesome and 1,1,2,
a great debugger and a 1+2. And his body splash to armdrills to the face were awesome...I wish there was a way to have him in J7 Slot but with his unique moves.
Even his ff 3+4 was hilarious not to mention Heihachi
Daddy Beatdown grab
Dont ever compare gigas with this
Gigas sucks
@@billwill4966 keep telling yourself that bud
Infernal Spyro well if you compare him to f4, i mean jin, you can’t say that gigass is a good character.
@@radoslav6861 I can't lie gigas is definitely low tier and needs a LOT of work. I've played with this character since before the game came out and stayed with him because I liked how he played regardless. Season 2 was supposed to make him his own character hence why I knew marduk had a chance of coming back. I just wish he had more throws and moves to make him unique. You won't believe how many people compare the two when they don't play them.
Gigas should get deleted.
I'm not even really a Tekken fan, but for some reason I have to watch your breakdowns on the Tekken series.
man, mirror matches of prototype jack should be amazing to watch
This is a robot that runs on typical gasoline after all...
Despite P.Jack being underpowered (though not that bad), he's still the coolest Jack design. Has that T-1000 Terminator look, which is better than the newer Jack designs.
Silver Haired Devil gonna disagree with that one friend
@@truthful_liar13 As in moves, or P.Jacks design?
You know I kinda just presumed P. Jack was worser the regurlar Jack but the fact he is actually the worst character ever is pretty funny
Oh, the feelz... Can't wait for Gon in T3
nobody :
p-jack frames : -17
Say what you will about the Hammer Rush strings, but as a kid, I loved them to death. Made playing Jacks, Kuma/Panda, and Ganryu so much fun.
I loved Prototype Jack, his spank grab is hilarious!
"Can I play Jax?"
"We have Jax at home"
Jax at home:
LMAOOO 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
At least this was before the Jacks started looking completely ridiculous
NYG5 I really do like this small/slimmer jack he really should come back in tekken 7 with his own move set different from jack 7 but I wouldn’t be mad if they shared some moves
Uhhh…Jack’s been looking ridiculous since 1
Preston Cormick | He looked SUPER goofy and disproportionate in Tekken 1 as well. The only difference was that the machinery wasn’t as visible as it became later.
Jack NEVER looked not goofy. Tekken has always been whacky as fuck, just deal with it. Its Japan.
If you're going to make an android, why not give it gorilla arms? Otherwise, you just have a bipedal robot without gorilla arms, and that's a missed opportunity.
That Jack has T-Rex arms for a tall character. Tekken 6, tag2, 7 jacks were jacked and had long arms and extends much longer
Believe it or not P.Jack isn't the worst character. The worst character in Tekken Tag Tournament is Tetsujin with P.Jack's moveset being his range is even shorter than P.Jacks. Don't believe me? I dare you to try him out in practice alone.
Do Jun
Even Kazuya did Jun
Quite literally
69 like, wow
P-Jack DF1 being -11 on block isnt too bad, considering it never connects anyway.
*Listens to him rant about how much he truly hates Jack's move set*
"Tell me how you really feel I don't think I fully grasp your mood here buddy"
Chocosoupprezz He didn't even cover the almighty P. Jack Hammer...
Mainman roasting P.Jack is hilarious
He might be the worst Jack in terms of actual usability, but when it comes to design, he’s by far the coolest.
And he was a fucking deity in Tekken bowl.
Perhaps this was done intentionally because of his prototype status
Prototype Jack's df1 looking like Hwoarang's df1 lol
I loved playing jack as a kid.
Mostly for the flying lol. He was the one character you only gimmicked with.
Remember when Tekken stages had people?
Shoelog Productions still do on a few stages
@@taskforcekillah9722 But there aren't as many people watching and cheering for you anymore :^(
Shoelog Productions true though 😭 i miss tekken 4 mall stage
Tekken 7 is pretty bad with it, only a few stages feel populated. Negan's comes to mind, arena and arctic are too far away to feel populated.
TTT2 had plenty stages with people cheering for you. Tekken 7 only very few. TBH its sort of better that way. Street Fighter Vs crowds are fucking annoying and every person I know mods them out
His d/f 1 animation looks so damn funny to me
Hey TMM why don't you review tekken3?
Love watching your explanation on these characters when im bored,very important stuff.
I will tolerate zero slander about P.Jack!!!
Ahh my dude Pimp Jack. We used to use hin to joke with each other in our games. I'm realizing I was actually pretty good at Tekken tag
4:35 is he trying to catch Mario from smash bros or something
My brother used to use all the Jacks and practiced all their combos and got all of their endings and still like PJack
He’s called “prototype” for a reason
Ok I saw enough videos from you. I hope I can learn a thing or two from you since I'm a tekken amateur. Played it since 3 but never got better. Subbed
maina Highway's Prototype Jack and Gun Jack TAS is basically a direct response to this video. I hope MainMan watches it.
TMMS: Mr. Meeseeks, i want you to win a tournament with Prototype Jack.
Mr. Meeseeks: oh yeahhh! Cann dooo!
*Later*
Mr. Meeseeks: I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE! I JUST WANT TO DIE!!
I just realized that besides playing the arcade mode to unlock character endings, there are certain characters I never played in the Tag games. There are some I've never played , not even once, in T7.
I loved playing him back in the day
I always paired him with Lee or Ganryu
P.Jack is my favorite of all the Jack's unironically, I loved him in Tag 2 and wish he could make another appearance in a canon title.
Why is prototype Jack not in Tekken 3
@@thevideos-rj8bo Because he died in Tekken 2
I used to win with P. Jack back in the day by doing SS1 into SS2, hammer punch into power punch, and planting seeds (which is definitely his most damaging low--surprised MainMan didn't mention it at all). I guess that I could win with P. Jack shows how bad we were, haha.
And yet he has hammer punch to power punch combo, which Heihachi himself has ridiculously been stripped of.
and then the horrors of double Jacks for Tag 2 happened.
I lost my shit at -7 on block and -8 on hit. lol
He's my favorite Jack tho 😭
That thumbnail always makes me laugh
How the fuck can a fighting game character have worse frames on hit than on block on any move ever, wtf is this lmao
-23 would be enough for tekken 7 yoshimitsu to sepuku you i believe
I loved teaming the two Jack's in tag 2
Wow this character is God damn depression to witness in this game
I used to pick P. Jack and just spam the Judo Chop of Doom. I did surprisingly well.
i think they wanted the "prototype" part to be noticed
Can't believe this video is already two years old.
Can believe this comment is already two years old.
@@jacobhaklar829 Three years old. Where is the time going?
Tmm:this is what p jack players had to use
Me:wait people used this guy?
Namco was basically bullying this character with these shitty frames and ranges.
Do Young Kazuya! the last game Kazuya wasn’t character assassinated by Harada is TT1
Hey TMM, can you do commentary or analysis on the epic Lei vs Orgre set in Tekken tag
I AM OP which set are you talking about?
@@YasirKhan-hy8ok Jackie tran vs Kenbou
I AM OP just saw that set with aris's commentary..... IT'S FRIGGIN AWESOME!!
What are u guys talking about????
T M Jackie Tran vs kenbou evo2k3
You missed a great chance “you don’t find gold nuggets... well, you do find nuggets but they’re nuggets of shit”
*Rangchu: Hold my beer*
Hold my bear*
Yaboku Last 🤯
"Hi, My name is Prototype Jack. Look at my trucker hat!"
I would always play as him just because I thought he looked cool
my mans sidestep 2 comin straight from dudley he got the corkscrew blow lol
What if you want +2
But Harada said -23
From watching this is, I gathered Prototype Jack's Existence is a -23
We did it boys, we found John Low Tier
ss1, otherwise known as “whiff punish me please you have an hour to decide how”
bro , he was created for bowling only. seriously in bowling he fucked shit up lol..
I've never been so mad watching someones gameplay