As someone who's been maining the dagger for a month and a half now, this video really good at showing the melee weapons potential! I've managed to get 15-20+ kill games whether it be Power Shift or World Tour! If you know what your doing, it can be just as powerful as a gun!
Riot Shield can be used to support the healing beam playstyle, by staying alive longer, you can be the last one alive to defib and heal more often and draw fire for your teamates to shoot while taking no damage.
I've been using that exact same strat for a couple of weeks now. However, I think that the riot shield helps the build, not the other way around. The focus is on the support, not the melee. That's the reason I said the the healing beam is only for your teammates. I'm not lying to discount your point. Like I said, I run the same build. I just want to explain why I didn't advocate for healing beam helping the riot.
I haven't played them too much this season, but one of my friends tried them out for the first time about two weeks ago and he's been maining them since. Thanks for the comment!
Really enjoy your content, but I have one problem with your video. It doesn’t address mediums melee problem enough. I‘m a riot shield main and it‘s a pain in the ass
yeah I guess so. I think the best way help out the medium melee would a specialization that helps close the gap with the enemy. I've been playing riot shield a lot more this season after the damage buff, but yeah, I agree with you that medium is probably the weakest of the three classes when it comes to melee.
I think melee is fine in the Finals, but I do think for every single weapon/strategy, there needs to be a counter-play option. Close range, there's not a lot of counter-play options against melee. I also think Heavy's shield Ability should make melee attacks bounce off of it until they're past the shield. I got killed by melee while using it, and he didn't look close enough to actually hit me since my shield was out. I think really everything in this game works, and it seems to get better with every update. Great video!
@@Amfneey You gotta be trolling with that last sentence. Have you ever played riot shield? If not, I can ensure you it‘s a buggy mess. Asking for the heavy shield to block melee while the riot shield can‘t is just ridiculous.
@Ghlencox I haven't used the riot shield and I probably never will. I don't like using melee in shooters just because to me it feels brain dead. Run up to someone and hold left click, press Q, it's just not fun to me at all. It needs to be able to bounce off/reflect off of any shield.
Since the Medium has good support gadgets, they could add a new specialization for this class, some sort of a Stim pistol that when shooting allies it gives them a movement speed buff, as an alt-fire it can be used on yourself for the same benefits; this could work as a nice gap closer on Medium melee builds. The Stim pistol could have 3/4 charges, something similar to the Dematerializer.
Melee can indeed be really fun - I LOVED sword up until the recent nerf (though it's still great), and lately I've been using the dagger more than anything else lately. I've never really been able to make meleee work on Mediums, but heavy sledgehammer is a good time for sure. Spear on Powershift can be ridiculously useful!
I think medium is probably the weakest of the three classes for sure when it comes to melee, definitely want a new specialization to help with that. Thanks for the comment!
2:20 Sounds pretty stupid to me. Like "Hello, here i stun you, please notice im nearby, but please dont shoot me, while ill charge my heavy attack, cuz im light and i die in like half second".
You mean profile pic? Haven't really thought of anything good for it yet and I don't just want a picture of my face. I definitely have been thinking about it though, would love to know any thoughts y'all got on what I should do! Thanks for the comment!
There is a lot of light sonar use, but no one seems to realize that heavy also has a sonar ability, the proximity sensor which is like a permanent sonar. Very annoying when trying to run invis.
@ of course….. as an entitled light main….. u try to turn the tables onna heavy gadget that doesnt get used that much…. All because u wanna justify the sonar spam…. Never mind
I don't understand what you mean by this. The game has guns and it also has melee weapons. It's not an either or type situation. That's like saying Halo and Destiny aren't shooters because the character can use a sword. That just doesn't make any sense. Tell me if I misinterpreted your comment, but the way I read it makes it seems like you think that a shooter is no longer a shooter if there is a melee weapon involved.
@@Jedi_Jedmonds in the finals you only have 1 gun and some gadgets. Effectively if you choose a melee weapon, you literally don't shoot. Ergo, making it a poor excuse, not a shooter.
If you're arguing this on a technicality, then that's a bit of a slippery slope, because you have a reserve where you can store multiple weapons, including guns. You can also, and should, run stun gun and rpg, which if means that yes, you literally can shoot while running a melee. Not to mention the goo gun, guardian turret, thermal bore, and tracking dart, all of which shoot as well. And if you think that running a melee means that you're not playing a shooter, then might I recommend running one of the many shooting guns that shoot that no one is stopping you from playing with.
Yeah i agree. Melee just doesnt work in this game. You have swords with dash, requiring zero skill, as well as melee weapons like the dagger being able to one shot any medium or light. dose not add to the game at all, just takes away.
@@tanakathecowboy you are the type of guy who always complains about skilled players by blaming it on the weapon because your are just ass in the game.
As someone who's been maining the dagger for a month and a half now, this video really good at showing the melee weapons potential! I've managed to get 15-20+ kill games whether it be Power Shift or World Tour! If you know what your doing, it can be just as powerful as a gun!
Thanks man I appreciate it!
Riot Shield can be used to support the healing beam playstyle, by staying alive longer, you can be the last one alive to defib and heal more often and draw fire for your teamates to shoot while taking no damage.
I've been using that exact same strat for a couple of weeks now. However, I think that the riot shield helps the build, not the other way around. The focus is on the support, not the melee. That's the reason I said the the healing beam is only for your teammates. I'm not lying to discount your point. Like I said, I run the same build. I just want to explain why I didn't advocate for healing beam helping the riot.
Dual blades need a little more love
I haven't played them too much this season, but one of my friends tried them out for the first time about two weeks ago and he's been maining them since. Thanks for the comment!
Absolutely! I am that friend and I love them because It reminds me of the light sword but you get the boost of health by playing medium.
Tried it recently. Mostly it feels like riot shield but bad.
You need dumb opponents to use its only unique feature "bullet reflecting"
Really enjoy your content, but I have one problem with your video. It doesn’t address mediums melee problem enough. I‘m a riot shield main and it‘s a pain in the ass
yeah I guess so. I think the best way help out the medium melee would a specialization that helps close the gap with the enemy. I've been playing riot shield a lot more this season after the damage buff, but yeah, I agree with you that medium is probably the weakest of the three classes when it comes to melee.
I've actually switched from being a sword mein to being a riot shield main after the sword nerf. I do really well.
I think melee is fine in the Finals, but I do think for every single weapon/strategy, there needs to be a counter-play option. Close range, there's not a lot of counter-play options against melee. I also think Heavy's shield Ability should make melee attacks bounce off of it until they're past the shield. I got killed by melee while using it, and he didn't look close enough to actually hit me since my shield was out. I think really everything in this game works, and it seems to get better with every update. Great video!
@@Amfneey You gotta be trolling with that last sentence. Have you ever played riot shield? If not, I can ensure you it‘s a buggy mess. Asking for the heavy shield to block melee while the riot shield can‘t is just ridiculous.
@Ghlencox I haven't used the riot shield and I probably never will. I don't like using melee in shooters just because to me it feels brain dead. Run up to someone and hold left click, press Q, it's just not fun to me at all. It needs to be able to bounce off/reflect off of any shield.
Since the Medium has good support gadgets, they could add a new specialization for this class, some sort of a Stim pistol that when shooting allies it gives them a movement speed buff, as an alt-fire it can be used on yourself for the same benefits; this could work as a nice gap closer on Medium melee builds.
The Stim pistol could have 3/4 charges, something similar to the Dematerializer.
That actually sounds like a really good idea, thanks for the comment!
Or light having a specailization of running on walls and double jump like titanfall 2 and the specialization is basically passive
And lock it to only the medium melee can use it
@@Ovrhyt65 would be crazy fun but maybe a little annoying to go up against
yeah cause fuck jump pad aimiright? lmfao.. noobs.
Great video now I have to try out some melee weapons!
Melee can indeed be really fun - I LOVED sword up until the recent nerf (though it's still great), and lately I've been using the dagger more than anything else lately. I've never really been able to make meleee work on Mediums, but heavy sledgehammer is a good time for sure. Spear on Powershift can be ridiculously useful!
I think medium is probably the weakest of the three classes for sure when it comes to melee, definitely want a new specialization to help with that. Thanks for the comment!
So the level also do a lot of work in making melee possible, allowing you to move closer without too much exposure because of good layout
I guess I didn't talk too much about the maps but that is a good point! Thanks for the comment!
nice video dude, i really like your opinions
Thanks man I appreciate it!
There's also STRAFTAT that naild it too
2:20 Sounds pretty stupid to me. Like "Hello, here i stun you, please notice im nearby, but please dont shoot me, while ill charge my heavy attack, cuz im light and i die in like half second".
Wait. Whats a melee?
Close range weapon, usually not a gun but something like a sword or spear.
@@Jedi_Jedmonds nah i know bruda XD, im a melee RUclipsr :p.
Oh lol, thanks man, I appreciate it!
Light or Medium should get a wall run spec that works more like a passive than something that is limited use.
You mean like an ability in the specialization slot? That's interesting, thanks for the comment!
Vidmasters never die, they just Run in other Games.
You should try play on the asia server with the skilled dash sword lights those guys have basically broken that combo.
keep it up
Well thought out video man! I’ve been trying to main melee on a medium and it’s definitely a lot harder but very rewarding
Thanks man, I appreciate it! Thanks for the comment!
Good video but why don't you have a pfp?
You mean profile pic? Haven't really thought of anything good for it yet and I don't just want a picture of my face. I definitely have been thinking about it though, would love to know any thoughts y'all got on what I should do! Thanks for the comment!
@@Jedi_Jedmonds Take a screenshot of a skin you like in THE FINALS and make it a portrait for youtube.
The riot shield😅?
since theres 1000 lights spamming sonar constantly, its gonna eventually get nerfed at least with its cooldown... the sonar is overly abused....
There is a lot of light sonar use, but no one seems to realize that heavy also has a sonar ability, the proximity sensor which is like a permanent sonar. Very annoying when trying to run invis.
@ of course….. as an entitled light main….. u try to turn the tables onna heavy gadget that doesnt get used that much…. All because u wanna justify the sonar spam…. Never mind
I don't main light and I was just trying to tell you about a cool heavy ability that is underused.
it doesn't. a shooter without shooting is not a shooter
I don't understand what you mean by this. The game has guns and it also has melee weapons. It's not an either or type situation. That's like saying Halo and Destiny aren't shooters because the character can use a sword. That just doesn't make any sense.
Tell me if I misinterpreted your comment, but the way I read it makes it seems like you think that a shooter is no longer a shooter if there is a melee weapon involved.
@@Jedi_Jedmonds in the finals you only have 1 gun and some gadgets. Effectively if you choose a melee weapon, you literally don't shoot. Ergo, making it a poor excuse, not a shooter.
If you're arguing this on a technicality, then that's a bit of a slippery slope, because you have a reserve where you can store multiple weapons, including guns. You can also, and should, run stun gun and rpg, which if means that yes, you literally can shoot while running a melee. Not to mention the goo gun, guardian turret, thermal bore, and tracking dart, all of which shoot as well.
And if you think that running a melee means that you're not playing a shooter, then might I recommend running one of the many shooting guns that shoot that no one is stopping you from playing with.
Yeah i agree. Melee just doesnt work in this game. You have swords with dash, requiring zero skill, as well as melee weapons like the dagger being able to one shot any medium or light. dose not add to the game at all, just takes away.
@@tanakathecowboy you are the type of guy who always complains about skilled players by blaming it on the weapon because your are just ass in the game.
Brolis skibidi trolis
There's also STRAFTAT that naild it too