What I love about CaW Code Black is how it’s not just a dark comedic take on educational programming, but also a satire of “code: black” japanese companies. Which are the companies that overwork, underpay, and abuse it’s staff. Like the body that is the setting is himself working for a “code: black” company which in turn makes him hit the bottle, smoke, and eat unhealthily. Which of course makes his body overwork itself as well.
So I'm not at all surprised that they doubled their subscribers in that time period because in that time window they eliminated free viewing so I don't think it's that weird that they had 5M people who wanted to keep watching that weren't paying before because they could just watch with ads. I know I did that
I feel like I'm the only person who actually dropped Crunchyroll as a regularly-used streaming site when they got rid of the free viewing. I just can't afford it.
also they axed there prices worldwide allowing more people to join. It went from $8 (Rs.800) to $0.79 (Rs. 79) and the annual subscription for $10 (Rs. 1000) . Many people I know in India who use to pirate have actually subed and have stayed sub. They have also added Hindi dubs (Indian language) which made many sub, including myself even when I don't really watch in dub but I also like to check how the dub is.
Potential way that CR now has 10mil is because they haven't only merged in funimation but also all the other streaming services world wide they've merged into it. Additionally there's now a bunch of hindu dubs coming to crunchyroll meaning india is there now. That can easily get them 5mil in a year
Oh that’s a good point literally stepping onto the Indian market gets so many hundreds of million eyes on you that even if 0.1% likes it it’s loads of people
Crunchyroll also just bought or converted, or partnered with VRV. I keep getting emails about my old account that I haven't used in years is going away.
If Sony as a publicly traded company makes material statements like this, then they would be in extremely hot water with regulators if they weren't being truthful. And it's perfectly reasonable to count subscribers to both if they are still active subs. Also, CR is winding down ad-supported viewing, so perhaps they got a fair amount of subs that way, plus subs from countries where Sony/Funi had a presence (Australia comes to mind).
I've got to agree with you. Public statements like this have gotten other companies in trouble when the numbers turned out to be wrong, so they should be with in a rounding error of accurate if they don't want to get slapped by the SEC or the FTC in the US at least
The merger with funimation happened 6 days after they announced 5mil subscribers. So it doubling in 20 months isn't surprising Anime has gotten more popular. More people are willing to subscribe now that one service is all they need for the most part. Think about it, if they subbed to crunchyroll, then they'd have to pirate most anime anyway so why just pirate all anime. That was my thinking at least until the merger happened and now i decided to subscribe and watch most of the anime out there. Though hidive is picking up good stuff, like 1 or 2 anime a season i want to watch. There's more limitations on free content now. So people have decided to just subscribe instead of dealing with that. They've also decreased their pricing over the world so maybe there's something there.
Love your videos and looking forward to seeing you IRL in Toronto this year. Still get excited every time hubs names comes up as a supporter (Ross Emerson)
I agree with all of your assumptions about business wording trickery, but myself and one of my coworkers are new subscribers within that time. Commercials suck, and I'm so new to anime, I can't waste time on commercials when there is so many anime to catch up on.
I’ve read some cells at work spin offs and they have very different qualities, I didn’t liked “cell’s that don’t work” and “cells at work: friends” had a fine enough premise to a slice of life but it didn’t focused on the og cells that we already knew, instead on variations that look similar but aren’t the same characters
Crunchyroll has improved quite a bit since the dark years of decay when AT&T bought and destroyed it. It's not perfect, but just the turnaround in its library of available anime each season is night and day from what it was under AT&T where their customer business model seemed to be "pay more for less every single year." Even the website and service have seen some improvement since Sony took over whereas there was nothing done in that regard under AT&T at all. I straight up canceled my account after AT&T hemorrhaged hundreds of titles from their library and left basic features of their service like the private messenger completely broken for every user for YEARS on end while promising it was going to be fixed "soon" whenever anyone spent the days of effort required to reach any sort of customer service. I only recently signed back up after seeing their library start expanding instead of bleeding out after Sony took over. Sony is at least putting money and effort into fixing this mess which is already leagues better than freakin' AT&T.
I will say this, compared to HiDive, I rather like watching anime on Crunchyroll, it works and the subtitles are nice to read. Neither I can say for HiDive, which fails on every single aspect as a streaming service, to the point I've paid for it and have stopped using it and am watching said anime it's offered on 'other' websites. That is to say, I WANT to pay for anime, just not for a crappy service.
It's Monthly Shounen Sirius, pronounced like 'Serious'. Named for the star. There isn't really just a 'Si' sound in Japanese, though, so theirs would write out like 'Shi-Ri-U-Su'
I feel like we need to talk more about the current state of the Crunchyroll/Funimation merge. Its been over a year now since that happened, and there is still a huge swath of anime on Funimation that is locked behind a subscription. They said they would be moving it all over, but its been forever since I heard anything about shows getting moved. I'm worried that Sony sees that people are willing to pay double for a Crunchyroll and Funimation subscription, and aren't incentivized to combine the services.
They are moving them, don’t know if it’s a netcode thing or what, but they’ve been updating old shows with the dubs and putting up about 5-10 shows a week.
@@Pimpgamer101 That's good to hear. I wish they would be a bit more intentional about which shows they bring over first, but any progress is good progress in this case.
I think the r eason for th e huge leap in subscribers is thanks to the huge cut in price for Crunchyroll around the world last year. I remember when they announced it, a lot of people I know tried it atlest for a few months and some still continue to use it. It's quite the deal too. It went from *$8 (Rs.800)* to *$0.79 (Rs. 79)* and the annual subscription for *$10 (Rs. 1000)* . So I can see why they had an increase in subscribers especially in asian countries where the price dropped a lot. _*Note: We still don't have the full CR library which is why they charge counties less and they also take into account competitors in the market and charge accordingly. (India Amazon Prime & Disney+ Anual Subscription Rs.1500 = $15)_
Theory about the Crunchyroll numbers: They double counted. They included the Funimation subscribers, most of which were already subscribed to Crunchyroll, before they officially merged into the same platform.
the crunchyroll numbers might be world wide subscribers so not just north america. i have been seeing a recent increase in hindi and india english translations for anime on crunchyroll. so that 10 million subscribers is more a worldwide number instead.
Been reading the Cells at Work Baby manga, and it's a fun little read for me. I do agree with your assessment about the cat one being more distinct from any others. I mean, I would watch it.
I need more seinen anime’s. The school settings are getting old after 20+ years. The last 3 seasons I was more or less bored . I need more black lagon like animes And for the love of god…giv me a romance anime ,again, where the protagonist is not a spineless idiot. And holding hand should not be the highlight of the relationship
I feel like I should go back to cells at work since I got burnout when S2 and black came out at the same time. I remember enjoying them but it was just too much at the time
I received an email not too long ago regarding how I was being double charged by both crunchyroll and VRV (even though I been rid of VRV long ago). I wonder if they're still counting members from VRV as well
Let's just say if you had Funmation in the past as your only anime streaming service you subbed too, You might of moved to CrunchyRoll to continue to watch new anime.
Crunchyroll does have premium memberships and free ones. I have been on the list of free memberships for years now. I would not be surprised they claim a former premium is part of the $10m
NGL, i spent most of the video watching Ark’s phone creep closer & closer to the edge of the table 😅 And a C@W Platelets anime adaptation would no doubt induce Adorableness Overload 😵💫
I actually just suspended my Crunchyroll service. I feel like they're not doing as much in terms of dubs as they could or should given their resources and decided to just take a break.
You're not going to believe this but I DID reactivate my dormant crunchyroll account within that time period so I wouldn't call them liars or stretching the truth. It probably includes accounts that paid once within the time frame but not necessarily those who are constantly subscribed.
1st ? Lol 😂 welp here for another one thanks for the content! Edit: OMG !! So hyped for P.A. Works new movie my favourite piece of media of all time is Maquia from P.A and I do love 75% of their shows so I’m beyond hyped !
As a pharmacy tech in hospitals for over a dozen years, I'd like to see the C@W Medicine. Could be very good or bad. I have some respect for surgeons but most doctors are morons who only know what the last drug rep bribed, excuse me, told them.
When a business over exaggerated a large rise in sales, while not illegal, opens the door to scrutiny by both the public and the IRS. Dangerous territory to tread.
I have no clue how truthful Crunchyroll is being, i can add another possibility, can it be that the 5 million subs count may only include english speaking community? (i assume this can be easily verified by reading the article, if the article mentions world wide or something like that somewhere). Crunchyroll has expanded quite a bit elsewhere, so that would explain the difference, not sure if a 5kk difference. It could be they were never the same stat to begin with.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Crunchyroll is counting both theirs & Funimations subscribers together. But also Crunchyroll has been forcing its free subscribers to pay (which is probably increasing their subscriber count). Watching things for free (without a premium plan) has become increasingly harder. For example To Your Eternity season 2 is solely premium content (despite the season being completed for months at this date). Same with the new season of Demon Slayer & Dr Stone. Or they’ll give 3 episodes without premium subscription & then episode 4 onwards will be premium content, smh (Hell’s Paradise is one of them). I really dont like how they’re doing that & seeing how they’re the biggest anime supplier in the west its just maddening to lock all that content away behind a paywall when before you could watch it just a week delayed & a bunch of ads for free.
Why can't crunchy make all the dubs from funimation available? S2 of Railgun English dub is missing but the rest are there. WHAT IS THE POINT OF THAT?! Also, the Zombieland saga English dub has Japanese singing, but the English singing is still on funimation. it's just stupid.
Unfortunately HiDive is much much worse than CR. I'm also amazed the Funimation service is still up. No doubt they leave it up to siphon off of unaware of deceased subscribers.
Oh we love Hidive in latin america, waiting a week after the original air date for spanish subs for 3 of the 7 simulcasts, having a only a third of the 224 series available in spanish zero dubs and the outdated android/google tv app, all of that for 100 pesos/month. CR costs 25 more and has simulcasts, simuldubs and a better experience for us.
I have always had mixed opinions on P.A. Work's Working series. On one hand I like how they don't hold back on how harsh and altruistic reality can be over your expectations, but on the other hand they were so slow to progress or had few interesting plotlines that I quickly dropped them.
I’ve subbed to crunchy roll 6 times over the years. On a year off a year on a year off six months etc etc etc so I’m causing those numbers to go way up lol
I liked Aquatope but it felt a bit too drawn out towards the end. I think it would've been better if it, albeit a weird number, had roughly 16-18 episodes and not the 20+ it had. But that's just my take.
@@Crytica. I can see that. Endings area hard in slice of life stories without adding some drama or romance elements, and I respect them for not doing that as it can feel forced.
It took Gundam many decades to change the gender of the protagonist, and the PAWORKS girl work series has already done this with the fourth or fifth show. Yes, technically the show still has female characters in the main cast, but it looks like the guys decided to pair it with their usual group of friends anime this time around.
What I love about CaW Code Black is how it’s not just a dark comedic take on educational programming, but also a satire of “code: black” japanese companies. Which are the companies that overwork, underpay, and abuse it’s staff.
Like the body that is the setting is himself working for a “code: black” company which in turn makes him hit the bottle, smoke, and eat unhealthily. Which of course makes his body overwork itself as well.
So I'm not at all surprised that they doubled their subscribers in that time period because in that time window they eliminated free viewing so I don't think it's that weird that they had 5M people who wanted to keep watching that weren't paying before because they could just watch with ads. I know I did that
I think it is a combination of this and the already mentioned possible combination of numbers between CR and Funimation's subs
I feel like I'm the only person who actually dropped Crunchyroll as a regularly-used streaming site when they got rid of the free viewing. I just can't afford it.
@@Bransbow if they had done it like a year earlier I 100% would have been on piracy sites instead, so I'm sure you're not alone in that
I suspect they double counted the people that were subscribed to both Funimation and Crunchyroll.
also they axed there prices worldwide allowing more people to join. It went from $8 (Rs.800) to $0.79 (Rs. 79) and the annual subscription for $10 (Rs. 1000) . Many people I know in India who use to pirate have actually subed and have stayed sub. They have also added Hindi dubs (Indian language) which made many sub, including myself even when I don't really watch in dub but I also like to check how the dub is.
Potential way that CR now has 10mil is because they haven't only merged in funimation but also all the other streaming services world wide they've merged into it.
Additionally there's now a bunch of hindu dubs coming to crunchyroll meaning india is there now. That can easily get them 5mil in a year
*Hindi
Oh that’s a good point literally stepping onto the Indian market gets so many hundreds of million eyes on you that even if 0.1% likes it it’s loads of people
Also, I felt that we would get more cells in the future. The original manga ended too soon and the author obviously still has too much inspiration.
Crunchyroll also just bought or converted, or partnered with VRV. I keep getting emails about my old account that I haven't used in years is going away.
An anime about a Japanese Whisky distillery??? Sign me up!
If Sony as a publicly traded company makes material statements like this, then they would be in extremely hot water with regulators if they weren't being truthful. And it's perfectly reasonable to count subscribers to both if they are still active subs. Also, CR is winding down ad-supported viewing, so perhaps they got a fair amount of subs that way, plus subs from countries where Sony/Funi had a presence (Australia comes to mind).
I've got to agree with you. Public statements like this have gotten other companies in trouble when the numbers turned out to be wrong, so they should be with in a rounding error of accurate if they don't want to get slapped by the SEC or the FTC in the US at least
The merger with funimation happened 6 days after they announced 5mil subscribers. So it doubling in 20 months isn't surprising
Anime has gotten more popular.
More people are willing to subscribe now that one service is all they need for the most part. Think about it, if they subbed to crunchyroll, then they'd have to pirate most anime anyway so why just pirate all anime. That was my thinking at least until the merger happened and now i decided to subscribe and watch most of the anime out there. Though hidive is picking up good stuff, like 1 or 2 anime a season i want to watch.
There's more limitations on free content now. So people have decided to just subscribe instead of dealing with that.
They've also decreased their pricing over the world so maybe there's something there.
Love your videos and looking forward to seeing you IRL in Toronto this year. Still get excited every time hubs names comes up as a supporter (Ross Emerson)
I agree with all of your assumptions about business wording trickery, but myself and one of my coworkers are new subscribers within that time. Commercials suck, and I'm so new to anime, I can't waste time on commercials when there is so many anime to catch up on.
I’ve read some cells at work spin offs and they have very different qualities, I didn’t liked “cell’s that don’t work” and “cells at work: friends” had a fine enough premise to a slice of life but it didn’t focused on the og cells that we already knew, instead on variations that look similar but aren’t the same characters
Crunchyroll has improved quite a bit since the dark years of decay when AT&T bought and destroyed it. It's not perfect, but just the turnaround in its library of available anime each season is night and day from what it was under AT&T where their customer business model seemed to be "pay more for less every single year." Even the website and service have seen some improvement since Sony took over whereas there was nothing done in that regard under AT&T at all. I straight up canceled my account after AT&T hemorrhaged hundreds of titles from their library and left basic features of their service like the private messenger completely broken for every user for YEARS on end while promising it was going to be fixed "soon" whenever anyone spent the days of effort required to reach any sort of customer service.
I only recently signed back up after seeing their library start expanding instead of bleeding out after Sony took over. Sony is at least putting money and effort into fixing this mess which is already leagues better than freakin' AT&T.
I will say this, compared to HiDive, I rather like watching anime on Crunchyroll, it works and the subtitles are nice to read. Neither I can say for HiDive, which fails on every single aspect as a streaming service, to the point I've paid for it and have stopped using it and am watching said anime it's offered on 'other' websites.
That is to say, I WANT to pay for anime, just not for a crappy service.
It's Monthly Shounen Sirius, pronounced like 'Serious'. Named for the star.
There isn't really just a 'Si' sound in Japanese, though, so theirs would write out like 'Shi-Ri-U-Su'
I feel like we need to talk more about the current state of the Crunchyroll/Funimation merge. Its been over a year now since that happened, and there is still a huge swath of anime on Funimation that is locked behind a subscription. They said they would be moving it all over, but its been forever since I heard anything about shows getting moved. I'm worried that Sony sees that people are willing to pay double for a Crunchyroll and Funimation subscription, and aren't incentivized to combine the services.
They are moving them, don’t know if it’s a netcode thing or what, but they’ve been updating old shows with the dubs and putting up about 5-10 shows a week.
@@Pimpgamer101 That's good to hear. I wish they would be a bit more intentional about which shows they bring over first, but any progress is good progress in this case.
Cells at work was great to watch during lockdown lol.
I enjoyed the two cells at work series I’ve seen, and I hope the next one is good as well.
I'd like to see an adaptation of Cells at Work:Baby, I think it would be adorable and extremely popular
I think the r eason for th e huge leap in subscribers is thanks to the huge cut in price for Crunchyroll around the world last year. I remember when they announced it, a lot of people I know tried it atlest for a few months and some still continue to use it. It's quite the deal too. It went from *$8 (Rs.800)* to *$0.79 (Rs. 79)* and the annual subscription for *$10 (Rs. 1000)* . So I can see why they had an increase in subscribers especially in asian countries where the price dropped a lot.
_*Note: We still don't have the full CR library which is why they charge counties less and they also take into account competitors in the market and charge accordingly. (India Amazon Prime & Disney+ Anual Subscription Rs.1500 = $15)_
Theory about the Crunchyroll numbers: They double counted.
They included the Funimation subscribers, most of which were already subscribed to Crunchyroll, before they officially merged into the same platform.
More cells at work is always a win win for me
the crunchyroll numbers might be world wide subscribers so not just north america. i have been seeing a recent increase in hindi and india english translations for anime on crunchyroll. so that 10 million subscribers is more a worldwide number instead.
Been reading the Cells at Work Baby manga, and it's a fun little read for me. I do agree with your assessment about the cat one being more distinct from any others. I mean, I would watch it.
the aquatope on white sand is hella underrated
I need more seinen anime’s.
The school settings are getting old after 20+ years.
The last 3 seasons I was more or less bored .
I need more black lagon like animes
And for the love of god…giv me a romance anime ,again, where the protagonist is not a spineless idiot.
And holding hand should not be the highlight of the relationship
always look forward to more uploads so this was awesome
I feel like I should go back to cells at work since I got burnout when S2 and black came out at the same time. I remember enjoying them but it was just too much at the time
I received an email not too long ago regarding how I was being double charged by both crunchyroll and VRV (even though I been rid of VRV long ago). I wonder if they're still counting members from VRV as well
Let's just say if you had Funmation in the past as your only anime streaming service you subbed too, You might of moved to CrunchyRoll to continue to watch new anime.
Did you consider a merger of CR and Wakanim? The las one was quite big in Europe.
Hey glass reflection...👋
Crunchyroll does have premium memberships and free ones. I have been on the list of free memberships for years now. I would not be surprised they claim a former premium is part of the $10m
Maaaaan, when is GKIDS, Funimation, Crunchyroll, or ANYBODY gonna announce Gridman Universe screenings
NGL, i spent most of the video watching Ark’s phone creep closer & closer to the edge of the table 😅
And a C@W Platelets anime adaptation would no doubt induce Adorableness Overload 😵💫
Still hope u are going to cover the weekly top anime of spring!
so Glasslip does not count as a P.A Works "working series"? despite the anime is about the job of a glass artisan?
I'm slowly memorizing the names of the patreons
Appeasing the algorithm, boss.
I highly suspect they are combining the three the anime apps that Sony owns the fUNimation Crunchyroll and VRV.
I actually just suspended my Crunchyroll service. I feel like they're not doing as much in terms of dubs as they could or should given their resources and decided to just take a break.
Did someone say cells at work?!😊
You're not going to believe this but I DID reactivate my dormant crunchyroll account within that time period so I wouldn't call them liars or stretching the truth. It probably includes accounts that paid once within the time frame but not necessarily those who are constantly subscribed.
1st ? Lol 😂 welp here for another one thanks for the content!
Edit: OMG !! So hyped for P.A. Works new movie my favourite piece of media of all time is Maquia from P.A and I do love 75% of their shows so I’m beyond hyped !
As a pharmacy tech in hospitals for over a dozen years, I'd like to see the C@W Medicine. Could be very good or bad. I have some respect for surgeons but most doctors are morons who only know what the last drug rep bribed, excuse me, told them.
Nice video GR
When a business over exaggerated a large rise in sales, while not illegal, opens the door to scrutiny by both the public and the IRS. Dangerous territory to tread.
When it comes to the crunchyroll numbers, I wouldn't be surprised if the growth is also due to most series are now PAID SERVICES ONLY.
He forgot cells at work lady and cells at work illegal.
Sakura quest is an underrated gem in my opinion
Cruchyroll been adding a whole bunch more territory and diffence language subs over the years so I can see growth
And not to mention, how many of those subscribers were just the same people using a free trial.
I have no clue how truthful Crunchyroll is being, i can add another possibility, can it be that the 5 million subs count may only include english speaking community? (i assume this can be easily verified by reading the article, if the article mentions world wide or something like that somewhere). Crunchyroll has expanded quite a bit elsewhere, so that would explain the difference, not sure if a 5kk difference. It could be they were never the same stat to begin with.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Crunchyroll is counting both theirs & Funimations subscribers together.
But also Crunchyroll has been forcing its free subscribers to pay (which is probably increasing their subscriber count). Watching things for free (without a premium plan) has become increasingly harder. For example To Your Eternity season 2 is solely premium content (despite the season being completed for months at this date). Same with the new season of Demon Slayer & Dr Stone. Or they’ll give 3 episodes without premium subscription & then episode 4 onwards will be premium content, smh (Hell’s Paradise is one of them). I really dont like how they’re doing that & seeing how they’re the biggest anime supplier in the west its just maddening to lock all that content away behind a paywall when before you could watch it just a week delayed & a bunch of ads for free.
Why can't crunchy make all the dubs from funimation available? S2 of Railgun English dub is missing but the rest are there. WHAT IS THE POINT OF THAT?! Also, the Zombieland saga English dub has Japanese singing, but the English singing is still on funimation. it's just stupid.
Unfortunately HiDive is much much worse than CR.
I'm also amazed the Funimation service is still up. No doubt they leave it up to siphon off of unaware of deceased subscribers.
Why is HIDIVE worse?
Oh we love Hidive in latin america, waiting a week after the original air date for spanish subs for 3 of the 7 simulcasts, having a only a third of the 224 series available in spanish zero dubs and the outdated android/google tv app, all of that for 100 pesos/month. CR costs 25 more and has simulcasts, simuldubs and a better experience for us.
So.. are we dropping the anitrendz top?
I don't blame him for doubting crunchyroll
I have always had mixed opinions on P.A. Work's Working series. On one hand I like how they don't hold back on how harsh and altruistic reality can be over your expectations, but on the other hand they were so slow to progress or had few interesting plotlines that I quickly dropped them.
I only watched Aquatope on the White Sand, and I had the same impression. It was just too slow.
Cells At Work, The Musical?
Oh dear.
I’ve subbed to crunchy roll 6 times over the years. On a year off a year on a year off six months etc etc etc so I’m causing those numbers to go way up lol
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Sony bashing - I just do not know, it a quandary - I felt it was great to ask your one-million subscriber if they felt this was likely misleading.
Aquatope was really good; I'll happily watch a movie in the same pattern.
I liked Aquatope but it felt a bit too drawn out towards the end. I think it would've been better if it, albeit a weird number, had roughly 16-18 episodes and not the 20+ it had. But that's just my take.
@@Crytica. I can see that. Endings area hard in slice of life stories without adding some drama or romance elements, and I respect them for not doing that as it can feel forced.
Who baddie in the thumbnail
can't wait for the Cat AIDS episode
Funamtion numbers transferred over to cruchyroll
I know this is irrelevant to the video, but how have you not aged Physically in over 11 whole years?
Where is Nier 😢
Omg I just finished Hanasaku Iroha a few days ago
😊
It took Gundam many decades to change the gender of the protagonist, and the PAWORKS girl work series has already done this with the fourth or fifth show. Yes, technically the show still has female characters in the main cast, but it looks like the guys decided to pair it with their usual group of friends anime this time around.
TIL Crunchyroll was bought for 1.175 billion dollars
Stop saying working I keep confusing myself with wagnaria
FIRST!
Better content from you compared to Grant