How long after surgery should your Oranda start to swim properly? Just done the surgery a couple of hours ago on mine following your video. However he is still sitting on the bottom sometimes moving around bottom as usual but still not swimming around tank. This was my last resort as struggling with huge head and possible swim bladder as just hangs out in the bottom of tank never swims around any more been a month now
This surgery will have no effect on a fish with swim bladder disorder. Actually, this procedure is nearly always useless. Even blinded by wen, most goldfish cope just fine and don't need the wen cut off. Their sense of smell and their use of the lateral line and other senses make it easily possible to find and compete for food even without sight. I've had a few fish blinded by wen and they never lost weight, swam oddly, or had any trouble at all.
Why would you want to encourage wen growth unless you WANT blinded fish? Wen growth is mostly genetic. I never feed to encourage it. Some of my fish grow larger wens, some don't grow much of any. There are several fish in her background swimming all weird and floating around. Swim bladder disorder results from overfeeding (major cause), too much water depth, poor genetics, etc. We don't slam our fish with animal protein. They need plenty of natural veggie matter. Their diet would consist more of veggie matter in the wild.
keeping making videos, i see potential with you, ......the last person i told that to was KGTROPICALS, you have a passion, and i just have a good feeling about your channel growth.
How do you know that this isn't very painful for the fish? And also what is the purpose of breeding these fish? Is it only for aesthetic reasons? I don't see how this is not animal cruelty ? They have issue swimming and also you have to do this stressful surgery everytime the wen blinds the fish. Just seems very unnatural. I don't understand how people support breeding these fish. So would be interesting to know why.
Again this procedure is generally useless. The fish can find food and swim even completely blinded. I've had several that thrived despite being blinded by their wens. Many think that this procedure will help a fish that is swimming oddly. Truth is - it usually won't. Overgrowing/overfeeding these fish will lead to swim bladder issues oftentimes... which cannot usually be resolved once they set in. As for why people breed them, much like Pugs... it's because people like them. Simple.
I'm so glad I found this. One of my goldfish is living up side down because her wen grew too big...and it's still growing. I was looking for information everywhere but I couldn't get it, before your video. I'm not sure I can make it or not but it was really helpful. I wish I could.
Thanks for uploading the video. I had exactly same type of oranda and was able to do it following your video. I got the Natures' Alchmy clove oil from the Vitamin shoppe.
Atheist Sam Paul . I agree with this to some extent my friend. Only problem is, common's grow huge! I don't believe they should ever be kept in an aquarium. However fancy goldfish (as I'm sure you know) only grow 8" or so. I keep fantails, the least "mutated' fancy imo. Even though they're nothing special, I think they're are beautiful, they stay small enough for a big aquarium and best of all, they don't suffer from all the hideous modifications we've made to many other fish. The worst examples being bubble eye and celestial! Those poor fish break my heart.
If people stopped buying them, they wouldn't breed them any more and there would be less variety of fish. Not the best answer. The only fancy goldfish that I'm not a fan of is the bubble eye. It just seems kinda cruel to breed them.
I'm considering doing this for my fancy goldfish that has uneven tail. The size difference in his tail makes him swim weird and his body is slowly bending to one side. have anyone ever done this to a goldfish??? did they feel pain in their tail? Will their tail regrow evenly afterwards? really wanna know... X(
I have a problem in that, initially, you said you would only do this operation if it was life threatening. Your fish had breathing problems because the wen was covering the gills, so you decided to do the procedure. My problem is that you started cutting away from his eye, before you did his gills. BLS (Basic Life Skills = ABC = Airway (Gills), Breathing (Gills) , Circulation..... I think eyesight comes way down the line. Wouldn't you uncover the gills in the first instance, in case something went wrong with anaesthetic and you had to abandon the op?
Thank you Doctor for your advice. Just trimmed my Oranda's wen and everything went well!
Very helpful, thank you.
wow, u did a great job! that fish sure s lucky it got you for a an owner :)
Good info. 👍
How long after surgery should your Oranda start to swim properly? Just done the surgery a couple of hours ago on mine following your video. However he is still sitting on the bottom sometimes moving around bottom as usual but still not swimming around tank. This was my last resort as struggling with huge head and possible swim bladder as just hangs out in the bottom of tank never swims around any more been a month now
This surgery will have no effect on a fish with swim bladder disorder. Actually, this procedure is nearly always useless. Even blinded by wen, most goldfish cope just fine and don't need the wen cut off. Their sense of smell and their use of the lateral line and other senses make it easily possible to find and compete for food even without sight. I've had a few fish blinded by wen and they never lost weight, swam oddly, or had any trouble at all.
I had one exactly same red oranda as you have, i lost him because of light gone when I'm not at home and he dies due to lack of oxygen. 😭
oh dear..this Wen trimming is not for the faint hearted ! Btw, how is your Beloved Oranda doing now? Hope it is well. Thanx for your good video demo.
Why would you want to encourage wen growth unless you WANT blinded fish? Wen growth is mostly genetic. I never feed to encourage it. Some of my fish grow larger wens, some don't grow much of any.
There are several fish in her background swimming all weird and floating around. Swim bladder disorder results from overfeeding (major cause), too much water depth, poor genetics, etc.
We don't slam our fish with animal protein. They need plenty of natural veggie matter. Their diet would consist more of veggie matter in the wild.
I know this is old but just what I needed to learn….my one fish is struggling so bad! Thank you! She’s getting her wen trimmed for Christmas 🎄 😃
Awesome video! It was very helpful... are you going to continue making videos? I'm excited to find another goldfish channel :)
keeping making videos, i see potential with you, ......the last person i told that to was KGTROPICALS, you have a passion, and i just have a good feeling about your channel growth.
And she never made a video ever again... sad buy hopefully she found her passion.
How do you know that this isn't very painful for the fish? And also what is the purpose of breeding these fish? Is it only for aesthetic reasons? I don't see how this is not animal cruelty ? They have issue swimming and also you have to do this stressful surgery everytime the wen blinds the fish. Just seems very unnatural. I don't understand how people support breeding these fish. So would be interesting to know why.
Again this procedure is generally useless. The fish can find food and swim even completely blinded. I've had several that thrived despite being blinded by their wens. Many think that this procedure will help a fish that is swimming oddly. Truth is - it usually won't. Overgrowing/overfeeding these fish will lead to swim bladder issues oftentimes... which cannot usually be resolved once they set in. As for why people breed them, much like Pugs... it's because people like them. Simple.
Sorry for asking, but is this lady a veterinarian?
I'm so glad I found this. One of my goldfish is living up side down because her wen grew too big...and it's still growing. I was looking for information everywhere but I couldn't get it, before your video. I'm not sure I can make it or not but it was really helpful. I wish I could.
My oranda has a brownish wen sticking out, should I do something or leave it alone? It doesn't look like is affecting her
Any thoughts?
Love your video, and the blond hair!!
Please keep posting!
It would be great to hear about your thoughts on salt vs. Prime, disease, bio filters : )
Thanks for uploading the video. I had exactly same type of oranda and was able to do it following your video. I got the Natures' Alchmy clove oil from the Vitamin shoppe.
hes beautiful! how old is he? did he grow to that size or purchased that big? and the video was very helpful!
Thank you so much for the information. I have to find a fish veterinarian before I need one. THANK YOU! Love Your Goldfish!
Haha for a second I thought this video was on Wen hair care products! Love your orandas! They look super happy and healthy!:)
PEACE....I JUST SUBBED 2 YOUR CHANNEL...IM IN LOVE WITH MY ORANDAS....YOU ARE VERY INFORMATIVE.....AND PRETTY....#THANKYOU
Hey definitely looks much happier great job
Beautiful goldies!
What to do if a the fish starts to hemorrhage? Just good to be prepared in case. Thanks.
best answer is dont buy any fancy goldfish instead buy a common goldfish
Atheist Sam Paul . I agree with this to some extent my friend. Only problem is, common's grow huge! I don't believe they should ever be kept in an aquarium.
However fancy goldfish (as I'm sure you know) only grow 8" or so. I keep fantails, the least "mutated' fancy imo.
Even though they're nothing special, I think they're are beautiful, they stay small enough for a big aquarium and best of all, they don't suffer from all the hideous modifications we've made to many other fish. The worst examples being bubble eye and celestial! Those poor fish break my heart.
If people stopped buying them, they wouldn't breed them any more and there would be less variety of fish. Not the best answer.
The only fancy goldfish that I'm not a fan of is the bubble eye. It just seems kinda cruel to breed them.
very informative
Thank you. I think I may need to do this. I feel more confident now.
Make more videos... please!! ❣👍💝
you help your fish can see again, you are wonderful !
such a helpful video thank you!
That fish needs more clove oil !!
good info, good video, sweet tank
Cool! I had no idea....
wow you have a lot of goldfish, how big is your tank?
It's a 125 gallon with 13 goldfish. It's overstocked so I'm very diligent about my water changes
Great to see a new video.
Must be really stressfull for the fish and for you!!! Congrats for your work, you are not only a beautifull girl but also a brave person!!
Lol, Boofy.
How many gph should a filter pump to be adequate for a 75 gallon Goldie tank?
750 gph. tank size times 10.
+L Thrailkill I thought it was 5 times the tank size with canister filters and 10 times the tank size with hob filters?
I think a sump filter is x10. but I'm really not sure. I know there are tons of videos on youtube about filtration and tank sizes and stuff.
at least x10 was supposed to be a 'better safe then sorry' kind of measure. and it cuts back on water changes.
awesome tank! what size is that 225?
Thanks! It's a 125 gallon 😊
+Philly Goldies It looks massive behind you lol beautiful fish! check out mine sometime
I think I'm in love.🌞💜
Beautiful girl with incredible goldies!!! you are just perfect!!!
Most beautiful RUclipsr.
I'm considering doing this for my fancy goldfish that has uneven tail. The size difference in his tail makes him swim weird and his body is slowly bending to one side. have anyone ever done this to a goldfish??? did they feel pain in their tail? Will their tail regrow evenly afterwards? really wanna know... X(
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She's cute
I have a problem in that, initially, you said you would only do this operation if it was life threatening. Your fish had breathing problems because the wen was covering the gills, so you decided to do the procedure. My problem is that you started cutting away from his eye, before you did his gills. BLS (Basic Life Skills = ABC = Airway (Gills), Breathing (Gills) , Circulation..... I think eyesight comes way down the line. Wouldn't you uncover the gills in the first instance, in case something went wrong with anaesthetic and you had to abandon the op?
so.....should it go blind
@@Shanshan12988, yes
She made a 30 minute video for a 5 minute video...👀
yes, flapping bec of pain. othrwise why woul flapping be accompanied by scissoring? cause & effect .....pay attention to fish behavior.