Can Super73 R Handle Hills? 11 Hills Tested!!!
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- I take you up 11 different size/grade hills to show the climbing capability (or inability) of the R-Series
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This video sold me. I live in the hills of South Bay LA and i'm stoked. Thanks for this review!
This has to be the best SUPER73 video bc it confirms SUPER73uk about getting momentum. I wonder how the OG will do on these same hills since it has more torque in the beginning than top end.
Thanks!!
Another great video and very well explained! 👌👌
We have never seen so many hills in one video but you proved the point perfectly
This should help a lot of riders understand what is going on and how to try and get up hills.
28-30Mph (flat level surface, no tail wind, average weight rider, fully charged battery, etc, etc) has always been the "norm" for the top speed on a bike with a geared hub motor running at only 48v.
To get a 48v geared hub motor to go 32Mph on a bike that only has 20 inch wheels usually means you have to put less windings on the motor BUT the downside of putting less windings on the motor is that you reduce the torque of the motor.
Having watched & listened to the new R, RX & S2 owners including yourself (excluding all of those who are telling BS about how their bike can go almost 40Mph and is faster than a rocket when pulling away!) we now suspect that less windings is exactly what has been done to the new motors. This would explain why people are saying that the bike is not rapid at pulling away but once it gets up to around 8 or 10Mph (after it gets some momentum) it then starts to pull.
With regards to the motor, because Super73 will not say what the motor spec actually is or tell us who makes the motor (750w? 1000w? 1,200w? How much torque it has? etc) then it's difficult to be sure but our guess is that the torque of the motor is going to be around 85 Newton-Metres at best.
A carrot has been dangled saying that the motor torque can be improved by some "magical" ota firmware upgrade - unless we are proved wrong then we really don't think so!
We believe that if you are looking for more speed & acceleration then you will need to increase the voltage for sure and if you want more torque then you will have to replace the motor for one with more windings and you would most likely also have to fit a new controller & display as well.
Please don't misunderstand us, we think they have done an amazing job on the new bikes but there are limits as to what can be done when you are only running at 48v and have 20 inch wheels so it is always going to be a trade off between speed & torque and it looks like they have edged towards speed.
Have you tried the bike on sand yet (wet & dry sand) as that would be a really good test to see how much torque the bike has?
Thank you for sharing this video because we are looking to get the RX so for us we are really interested in what the bike is really like. Do you think having the 10 speed gears would make much difference going up hills on the R or is the single gear low enough already?
(We are not an official UK dealer & have no affiliation in any way to "Super73" the bike company)
Thanks for the kudos! Glad to be of help!! Thanks for all the technical information. I haven't tried sand yet. I DEFINITELY think added gears - especially in the lower range - would help tremendously in terms of getting up hills. The single gear we have on the R and RX is simply too high.
Any idea on the size of the controller on the RX yet ?
Yes - Extra small, lol! (We are joking folks so please remain seated!)
Our best guess would be that we expect it to be somewhere between 35A to 40A but as yet we have not seen one in the flesh so we will reserve final judgement for now.
(We are not an official UK dealer & have no affiliation in any way to "Super73" the bike company)
@@super73uk If its built into the bikes battery I would be surprised if it was as big as that....
@@icedave2004 The controller on the S2/R/RX is fitted under the seat so it could be/should be at least 40A max because they are saying the bike is 2000W in "unlimited mode" and for that to be true then the controller would have to have an output of at least 40A (41.67A to be more precise)
We are waiting with interest for some nice person who owns an R bike to take a picture of the controller showing the rating label so we can put this "2000W" issues to bed one way or another!!
Those motors are geared for top end. I hear people talk about a software update, but I can't see that during anyting for climbing.
Cool video man! Thanks for the tips and advice on what do/not do for hills! Cheers
My pleasure. Thanks for the support.
Glad you showed me this. No way it will handle the hills in my area everyday commute
Yeah it has no torque
For the price it’s awful actually 🤦🏿♂️
Thank you for doing this video! I live in an area with many hills and this is very good to know!
You're welcome. Glad to help!!
Thanks for showing, i was looking for one but there are many hills where i live 👍🏻
Thanks for the honest review
Thanks. Glad to help. 🤜
Nice video man! Waiting on a rx. a little disappointing these bikes don't take hills too well. I honestly expected more. Hopefully an update can improve that.
On the low end not good on hills. With momentum though takes them like a champ
Hey Kobe now that you've had your RX for a while now how satisfied are you with it? Mine is an RX also and just shipped on Monday. Expecting it very soon.
@@robinstevens9189 I love the bike! put about 800 miles on it so far. However it has given me a lot of issues. the first bike delivered would not charge. took a week for a new one. second bike has been solid for the most part besides some occasional power issues.
@@kobe726 I live in seattle and I'm looking to get Super73 ZX or SI. Do you think it can take seattle hills ? I'm a student and I need to commute to work so I don't want to spend my money and not be able to commute with it.
@@haii1650 the s1 is great but for hills, No. my mom has the s1 and absolutely loves it but it does not do the best up hills with a top speed of just 20 mph. the zx I'm not too sure.
Sweet videos man - nice job. Curious what you use for your camera setup? They're smooth and great quality. Do you use an external mic?
Thanks! GoPro hero 7 silver and a chest strap. That’s it. No external mic.
Thanks for the great video. its good to know the limitations with hills for the R series. I'm using your videos to prep me for my RX. I hope a future firmware update will help with these minor issues. Also, have you thought about aftermarket tires or the all terrain tires from Super73?
Thanks. I have studded tires but haven’t put them on yet. Hope you get your rx soon.
@@TheFrickinShredder thanks the wait is torture haha. Cant wait to see the tires when the time comes!
Man that sucks about the bike cutting out. I got the S2 and I’m really only planning on throttle only
I’d caution against that. Your call. Good luck.
Leviathon2727 hopefully in a firm ware update they fix it
Full throttle over extended period not recommended-pedal assist can be minimal exertion and enjoyable. Old guy with bad knee rides Juiced Rip Current S and has on order S73 S2. Remember this motor is maybe about 1 hp and will overheat when pushed.
these motors have an overheat breaker, once it cools off it will turn back on.
Thx for the video! These bikes are for pedeling also. If you only use throtlle you will break rhe motor. Its not an electric motorbike like the zero or supersocco.
they are ment to do this
Haha, what?
So I'm thinking of buying one of these because I'm legally-blind and had to stop driving a few years back, but I can see okay to ride a bike. Getting tired of having to walk everywhere because I live in a remote area.
If you took yours to Castaic Lake and started at the stop sign at the intersection of Lake Hughes Rd and Ridge Route Rd, could you actually make it the 24 miles to Lake Hughes from there, just going one-way? Not at top speed or anything, just... will it make it?
I'd really love to know. If it can do that I'd probably buy one tomorrow.
On my Rx I only use throttle with over 1,400mi no problem with hills and no problem with throttle only 😎✊
Cool! My experience has been you need momentum to get up hills
@@TheFrickinShredder True, I guess it might help that I’m only 128lbs 😎
For sure
@@TheFrickinShredder P.S. I do really enjoy all your videos you got an awesome personality ✊ Come on down to San Diego it has the Best weather in the world 🌎
Thanks. That means a lot. 🤜👍😎
the mid-drive motor would have got you up there but when the super73 first came out it had the mid-drive why did the stop was it the price of the better motor
Mid drives are about 4 times the price of hubs. They obviously wanted to Lee the bike somewhat affordable.
Bro I gotta get up a steeper hill to work it's 5 minute drive by car. If this thing can't get up a hill then idk
Torque sucks. Gotta hit the hill at full speed and then pedal like a banshee all the way up.
So not a great hill bike . It looks 😎 cool
Fair enough!
I recently ordered an R but don’t live in an area with hills. If I did though I would probably buy an Ariel Rider Grizzly. Ariel Riders offer so much more but they’re so ugly looking haha.
so true, looks is a big factor in my opinion which is why i went with the "R" and plus, super73's are available in stores
Can you throttle and peddle at the same time to go up the hill?
You can and strangely it gives you the most power
@@TheFrickinShredder hopefully its safe on the motor and the battery
Probably not ideal to do for long
You've got some STEEP hills! They built the motor more for top end speed, so torque will suffer a little. I have a RadMini and it climbs like a tractor, but top speed is only 27mph.
Yep I agree. Good top. Poor low. I’ve heard good things about the rad mini
Did the torque update make a difference?
Never did it.
Would you still recommend this bike in march 2022? gonna pull the trugger on this
I’d go with Adriel rider grizzly personally. SUPER73 r has no torque and poor range.
@@TheFrickinShredder That has a 1000w motor and I’m trying to stay legal in Los Angeles lol btw love your vid on the middle schoolers, keep following the leader Zak
The SUPER73 r has a 1200w motor. Thanks for the support! 🤜
@@TheFrickinShredder is the super 73 r a good choice? Thank you for the great videos
What’s the point buying this if it don’t go uphill
Seems kinda frickin mediocre bud
Lol. Putting torque aside it’s a great bike
You call that a hill ?? Lmfao, this is laughable 🤣🤣