This style bicycle ("crate") is really more for style than function, so it's not really for commuting where you have to go any real distance, up hills or over obstacles. This makes it even less good as an even-heavier ebike. Crate ebikes are really to be used as leisure scooters (on flat ground). There are much better bicycles and ebikes for commuting (or speed). This is for fun - quick scoots around.
Unlimited mode will only go to 30mph when your battery is over 50%. You switched modes with low battery, should’ve been in unlimited mode from the beginning, especially since its less of a pedal machine and more of a motor moped ishh thing
I have two Rad bikes, and on a ride with my daughter (12) I had my motor at 1 and she had toggled hers to throttle. She pulls ahead and I called for her to slow down. She yells back she can't hear me over the sound of her motor and scoots off up the hill.
I own a Sur Ron X (same as Segway x260) The thing is a weapon on trails. It’s range is truly over 20 miles on hard trails and well over 50 miles for flat riding. 29/30mph mode or 49mph mode all bone stock. It can be easily uncorked as well.
As a cyclist in Seattle for the last 22yrs, I can firmly say that many roads are terrifying. I feel so much safer on a motorcycle. I still bike, but I like to mostly stick to dedicated trails
The major advantage of an e-bike here (WA state) is the ability to filter without ANY worry. I still filter on my motor scooter, but.... there's always a risk if you're on anything bigger than a bicycle
Seattle roads in general inspire a certain degree of terror, constantly under construction - full of angry motorists and pedestrians who just randomly walk across any time they feel like it.
When ebikes first became popular, a lot of my fellow cyclists swore to hate them. I'll just say that no cyclist that has actually ridden one feels that way. They're just a whole other new and awesome thing.
The first time I rode my electric bike I immediately realized that safety gear beyond bicycle level was absolutely required exactly as you mention at 23:00. Great review, much appreciated.
Same here. Fortunately my dad's a motorcyclist and had an old summer jacket he could spare, because I shot my wad on on the bike and didn't budget for armor. I'll never get to freeway speed on an ebike but getting to 28mph before starting down a steep hill, maybe with a tailwind, speeds between 40 and 50 are quite attainable and might even sneak up on you.
FortNine video on these said same thing - e-bike is dangerous because people are indeed going 30mph on these, not wearing any safety gear, and the bike isn't providing you any safety either. Note he almost got blown off that bike trail into the drainage ditch.
I have a motorcycle, my girlfriend recently bought a Buddy Bike (norwegian e-bike).... i gotta say it's amazing. Super practical, easy to use, no license, no need to put on a bunch of gear, lightweight, perfect for short trips.
Or buy used and get almost anything. My tiger 800 was $4k, plenty of 250/300/500cc bikes around for under $3500 used if gas milage is a concern. Edit* I will say if you lived somewhere like seattle, nyc, or any major high density area where parking is a problem and you never have far to go then an ebike would have advantages. Like being able to take it into your place at night, park on sidewalks without cops giving you grief, legally filtering forward at lights.
The whole point of ebikes is to be able to go where a bicycle can and a motorcycle can't (legally anyway) but with a little juice to get your juices flowin'
I have a radrunner a compact cargo e bike ($1200 for the whiners) and it is fantastic. I live in Boston so perfect city for an ebike, but I haul my gear to surrounding towns, can load up with 2 weeks of groceries, and it has a rear seat so my GF and I explore together. There is something strange about having a vehicle that do 30-40 miles effortlessly, take it up to your apartment, charge it, and do it again. No gas, no smells, barely any maintenance - they're wonderful machines. And also a lot of fun to ride.
Great review as usual. Thanks for recommending safety the gear . People don’t realize how bad you can get hurt, I learned the hard way. I crash my Honda ct90 with a mattress that flew of a pickup truck, yes the mattress won. I broke my collarbone, cracked 9 ribs , shoulder plate and both pinkies and bruised my right lung, not fun. I was going about 40mph.
The great thing about ebikes is you can ride them where it would not be legal to ride a motorcycle. I have a Eunora Fat-AWD e-bike. It has both front and rear wheels with motors. Range if I'm not pedaling much is 20 mi or 30 mi with some pedaling. Cost was $1,600.
loving my S2 i'm grateful i got it at 2K during pre order prices. perfect bike for riding in new york city where traffic is always heavy but the bike lanes are always empty lol
As someone who's into both ebikes and motorcycles it'd be interesting to see you test out one of the more mountain bike style e-bikes with a similar power rating to see if you enjoy that more since you'll actually be able to pedal more regularly.
Suggestion ?? #1 Get together with your buddy from OnTwoWheels series. #2 Both of you try out the Sur-RonX/Segway260 ebike. On road adventures. Offroad adventures. #3 Both of you guys try out ... A Huck Ebike & a Onyx Ebike. Cafe Racer frames. Both are 45mph ebikes. #4 Try the Biktrix Juggernaut HD Duo ebike. Its a Long Range ebike. Said to be 100 to 200 miles.
As somebody who got into building and riding e bikes this year I gotta say I enjoyed this review. One thing to note, you had some issue pulling out of stops when running in Class 3 mode (pedaling required), this can be due to a setting (or two) that sets how much the pedal must be turned before the motor engages, and at what power level the motor will start engagement. On my builds I like 2-4 complete turns before the motor engages as these were origninally built as bicycles. On that machine I'd suggest turning that value down to 1. Anyway thanks for the review.
I have the base Z1. It's basically a 50lb bmx bike with a 500w electric motor. I use it for the 5-10 mile jaunts around town. The Z1 is too small for me at 5'10" and 190lbs. I'm limited to 10-15 mile range and 20 mph. I wish I sprung for the S2 or R series.
@@zugmeister314 Can confirm this as well. Having the electric to get you back up to speed makes the complete stop much less painful. E-bike in this video kinda sucked btw. They should have gearing so you can help the motor since you are sitting there anyways. Extends the range. A simple gearset would have seen Zack make it to the office with charge to spare. Human/electric hybrid. I miss my homebuilt road bike based e-bike. Most fun I've had commuting in my life.
@@kleinbottled79 I got the feeling they were going for an electric scooter / motorcycle but wanted to call it a bicycle so they slapped on some pedals. Anyone who rides any distance knows the seat height needs to be high enough you get a full leg extension 'cause that's where your strength is. The way his knees were coming up looked like BMX bike or something, and with one gear (?!?!) you'll never get any real human power out of that. Did you notice that at "level 3" he had to pedal to make it go, while the lower output worked on the throttle? Looks like they're making a scooter look like it's a bicycle. BTW I love my Rad wagon!
@@Vic6 A distinction important when discussed among SoCal locals, but for all intents and purposes on RUclips, one could be safe to include LB as part of LA. Let's go Dodgers.
I own Michael Blast ebike that is basically a moped and super soco moped that is bridge between 50cc and 125cc I love both of them Soco is receiving scrambler treatment now. Coz 120Nm need to be used properly
Have followed Zack for a while, never owned a motorcycle. So yeah, have lived vicariously through his reviews. Have actually logged over 16K mile commuting by bicycle. Appreciate the honest review. And just from the camera view... could tell I would agree.. needs more adjustability. But moving at the speeds he achieved would be fun but 80 lbs would have me concerned. But comfort still would be my concern. Range... not bad depending on recharge. My route, made longer for safety, was 9 miles one way. And have looked at the Zero motorcycle. Thanks Zack.
I really wish there was a more straightforward way to register a Sur Ron for moped use in the US. Some states, it's fairly easy, but it's not consistent, and once you delimit it, you can't legally register it anywhere. Feels like our laws need to catch up.
On downhills I get my bicycle up to 30mph. It's an intimidating speed without gear IMO, so I'd agree with Zach. If you can regularly get it to 30 mph, you want gear.
Yeah these are much more stable than a typical bicycle though. Its got motorcycle suspension and brakes. Honestly when your doing 30 on these it just feels like a comfortable cruising speed.
30mph is not an uncommon speed for a road cyclist at all. That speed is not necessarily appropriate for e-assistance though, because it’s kinda too fast for like bike paths.
@@cjeam9199 But I think it's the difference between getting up to that speed because you cycle a lot so you know how the bike will react etc, and not being very proficient on a bicycle but having the electric motor instantly get you up to a speed you're probably not ready for, without any protective gear... Coming off at 30 I can't imagine is much fun! :)
Hey Zack, as an unashamed spandex road racer, I gotta add a couple of things: 1. That's not a derailleur, that's a chain tensioner. Common on badly-made (and not so badly made) single speed bikes. A derailleur derails the chain when changing gears on a normal hub, that thing is there to keep the chain on and prevent you going over the bars in case it decides to pop off at some point. 2. Seat height! That thing is way too low for you. You should not be able to flat foot a bicycle. You should have an *almost* straight leg, with a small bend in it, at furthest extension. Not adjusting the seat height, especially as a tall 6'2" guy like you, is a bit like test driving a car and not adjusting the seat and then complaining that the ergonomics are all cramped! Great review, love your stuff man, huge fan as always!
Whoever decided that Revzilla should be a serious content creator needs a medal. This is all such fun content! What would we expect from the best gear store online?
I still remember the odd feeling of trying electric assisted bicycle for first time. It felt surreal to get going and after second or two when motor turned on it kinda felt like someone was pushing me hard from the back.
I started with bicycles when I was 14, riding road bikes and racing in my teens. I moved up to ebikes in 2017 and went car free. I freaking love bikes and ebikes, but I got a 50cc 2-stroke and there isn't even a comparison. The scooter is so much more practical, fun, inexespesive. I use the ebike for getting groceries because it is great at towing a little bike trailer, but for the 2k an ebike costs a used scooter wins hands down. Batteries need to hold twice the energy per unit of weight and cost half as much before full sized electric scooters even make sense, for bigger bikes the battery requirements for them to directly compete is going to be even harder to reach. For the price of a super73 RX you could get a used PCX, and that scooter could be used to cross the conrey if you are adventurous enough, the ebike if flogged at 28mph can't even make it across town.
Holy shit. You literally drove right by my house. I have to go up that massive hill every day on my Monday motorbike gateway ebike. Wish I knew lol I totally would have joined you for a little 2 person ebike group ride!
I’ll agree 100% with you getting deceivingly comfortable on the bike. I’ve had a couple humbling moments in only a month of owning an S2. Knock on wood nothing bad has happened. Gotta keep your ego in check and respect the road.
Ah, the "Do they see me?" visibility of a bicycle and the speed of a kinda slow moped, and cultural incentives to not wear protective gear or, ya' know, learn how to properly ride. What could go wrong?
I almost bought this and then was like ill be mad that I can't ride my 40mph bicycle anywhere . So I spent a cheaper dollar amount on an r3 and it was the best decision ever. Not to mention super 73 only has ONE manufacturer and it can take weeks to months to get the bike to come in and even parts and getting work done on them are hard unless you're located in Cali or near that one shop in NYC.
Having one of these is about fun. Not speed. All about living a simple commuter life. Minimalistic travel. You see the world differently on a bike (or ebike). Life is slower and you notice things you never noticed before. Its a good change.
The resale value on any e-bike or e-motorcycle must be horrendous as the technology improves so rapidly every year that it makes previous models rapidly obsolete. Planned obsolescence? You can never catch up & you never get back what you put into them.
To be fair, I really enjoyed that review. I've got an e-bike which here in the UK is restricted to 15.5 mph and no throttle allowed. Use it for my 6 mile inner city commute and it's the perfect tool for the job! It's just as quick to commute on as my Z900,
What is the water integrity like on these e-bikes? If you get caught in the rain will it short circuit? How about battery life 5-10 years down the road? Are there features on this model that can be upgraded as it ages?
had my rx in the rain for about 20-30 minutes once and it didn't seem to be affected. i've also ridden in in the rain multiple times and it still zips around fine
I did see one continous mistake in this video. You followed the rules, stopping for stop signs and red lights. A real cyclist wouldn't be caught dead doing that.
ehh, I follow Idaho stop rules. So if there aren't any cars, I will treat stop signs as yield signs, and stop lights as stop signs. if there are cars, I will treat them normally.
Try an ONYX RCR top speed 50 to60 mph. Weight 150 lbs and handmade in LA or their SF factory. The torque is amazing. Range at 25 to 35 mph approx 40 miles. Range at 35 to 45 approx 30 imo. A friend of mine who owns 2 Harleys rode it and was shocked with the pulling power. Starting MSRP is $4199 before any discount. Typically you can find a link or dicount code for up to $200 off.
$3500 for that POS? How much is the battery when it inevitably gets knackered? How long before proper cyclists realise they are just as dangerous as having a proper motorcycle speed along the cycle lane?
I have few accidents on ebikes in speed about 25-30 miles and I have to say you right, wear gloves and some strong clothes, your skin will thanks you, there is nothing like " I ride safely and no have accidents" bad luck just waiting to meet you in moments you do not want meet anybody. Yesterday wind blows under my wheels bicycle that's was parked to the street lantern on the bike lane side, it was just half second movie and lights goes down. 30 miles sped can kill you easy. Im always lucky and never broken my bones, probably according to them density but... I loose a lot of my skin and my body changed color like rotten apple. First thing this morning I go shopping online for bike clothing. Great review bro.
All that space between the battery and pedals needs some sort of storage compartment. I ride a step thru scooter and I can put my grocery basket on the floorboard without any problems. E bikes should be a step thru with a floorboard if that is going to be your main transportation.
I myself ride a ViVi electric mountain bike to work, and it's basically like somebody converted a mountain bike to an electric bike by slapping on a motor hub in the rear tire and chopped it in half to make it a folding bike. It is lighter than this one but I have quite a few hills that makes it difficult to ride at top speed. It doesn't have a dash either, but it's a lot of fun to ride.
Overpriced. I built my eBike that reaches 37mph, 20mile range at 30mph constant speed, weighs in at 75lbs. Uses a heavier LiFePO4 battery instead of standard Li-Ion. Which is way safer because LiFePO4 doesnt explode and burn when damaged or destroyed. Also more vibration resistant. Cost me around 1500$ total, including all the tools I needed to build it. Build your own, and it'll be faster cheaper, and more fun.
@UCBNkveJBulVQ-SVbG1bLcuA I'd like to build an electric bike. I want to convert my Norco Pinicale trail bike to an electric. Can you suggest what parts I should buy?
@Rick Kenn Theres plenty of kits you can buy from Amazon and Ebay. Get a rear wheel kit that can fit inside of a steel frame bicycle. Get a lithium battery pack from a reputable vendor. LiFePO4 is the longest lasting and safest. they are bigger and heavier. Theres lots of videos showing how to install such kits. You'll learn a long the way too. Make sure you get a GrinTech V4 Torque Arm too. You will destroy a bike frame if you dont use one. On reddit there is an Ebike section you can ask questions about. /r/ebikes. Have fun building one.
If you go to a regular bike style and not the Moped motorcycle looking e bikes .. Most have good pedal ability. 7-9 gears and weigh a bit less.. I can pedal my fat tire 26x4 e bike 10-12 mph about 5 miles no problem without battery. Weighs 74 lbs with rack and fenders.. My e bike is faster than a super 73 but 25 miles throttle only at over 34 mph and 75 miles going about 12 mph pedaling to help in low assisted mode.
My S1 jumps like an electrocuted jackrabbit from a stop. All I have to do is touch the pedal and it's off, and I've gotten it up to 40mph on flat ground.
Had the same issue with my motorized bicycle I built. Everything was fine until my taillight went out at night and a cop decided today was the day to hassle Ella. I think he eventually gave in and said just get the light fixed. I was living in a fairly rural area, and wasn't causing anyone any bother.
So I have a super 73 S2 and will say in Chicago (and when we don’t have 2 feet of snow on the ground like we currently do) it’s defiantly the fastest way through the city, mostly because of bicycle laws vs motorcycle laws in IL, but I defiantly love it and park it in my apartment. I have added mirrors. I will say the seat is still terrible and the fitment can leave something to be desired.... and my biggest pet peeve is that if the headlight is off then you don’t have brake lights, and that if you turn off the bike to run in someplace the pedal assist will reset to zero each time you turn it on. But I bought it and did postmates on it over the summer and it paid for itself pretty quickly!
The brakes being switched varies by country or rather which side of the road you drive on. The assumption that the most dangerous turn you can make is the one across the traffic, i.e. On right hand drive that would be the left turn - So when you move into the middle of the road and indicate with your left hand that leaves your right hand to brake, and so the put the “safest” brake on that side. The idea is that the front brake while more efficient is potentially more dangerous as you could easily lock up the front wheel and go over the handle bars.
Man that thing is crap compared to my e-bike with "bafang"-middle-motor in it! I can easily drive up to 32mph and drive with min 5-8mph pretty much every paved hill. And thanks to my 8 gears at the backwheel I can start easily at every stop and even on hills np. Try and get your hands on one of these to test, way better!
@@relate97 Works.... is not the same as corectly made or even good..... If works is fine you should walk barefoot at all times.... or why move at all...
@@relate97 If new is the requirement instead of worth your money... you are jsut wrong Any old used for next to nothing moped with a tire change and a jug of gas... to name just one Or just steal any kids bike and get thighs of steel ;) puts on shoes... And almost limitless others with better price to usefulness/fun ratio
It's quiet, economical and fun. Exploring new places on e-bikes and having access to bike paths and quiet neiborhoods without upsetting anyone has been priceless. Getting around small downtown areas, restaurants etc where there is no available parking is also a big plus. I own motorcycles and there is no way they replace these e-bikes. These things are pure fun and don't infringe on other peoples enjoyment like stinky loud gas scooters. If you are in a hurry to go nowhere e-bikes aren't for you.
This thing seems primitive compared to some ebikes selling for $2000 less. It’s not a motorcycle, it’s not a bicycle, it appears to be a poorly designed ebike. Great video though, as always.
Yea it seems designed like a motcycle, but is a bike. The frame geometry doesn't seem great for pedal power (no adjustable seat) and the battery on top is bad for weight distribution and is in that location for purely looks. My knees hurt just imagining have to pedal
ever seen '70s mopeds? this fits that niche pretty cleanly (though one might argue those died off for similar reasons, plus the unreliability of vintage two-strokes)
I'd like to see more videos about electric bikes. There are dozens of products on the market with a wide range of capabilities but I haven't seen much in the way of independent reviews. PS I'm a motorcycle rider with 50 years of experience but I can see the possible utility of ebikes and would like to know more.
Thanks for this and I am lucky enough to own a Super73 S and an Indian FTR 🔥🔥... love both ! And as you said if you want to go fast get a motorbike and get your license 😉. Greetings from Paris area / France
We should also note for those outside France that anything 2 wheeled and motorised that can go over 25km/h is required to be registered, plated and we have to have the scooter license... From France, between Cannes and St Tropez.
Hope you got extra danger pay for this one! 8:20 - 8:30 shows how dangerous these are. Like Zack said - playing tag with trucks. Terrible idea to commute with these. $3500 forget it lol.
Those are just non bike friendly roads. Here in Belgium and Netherlands we have bike paths pretty much everywhere so bikers don't have to put them in dangerous situations like that.
Tons of these things here in SF. One of my buddies bought one and he loves it. Personally, I'm looking to buy a Arielrider Grizzly. Same style, fully suspended but with two wheel drive, two batteries, 7-speed derailleur, and 52V. Best of all, its cheaper by several hundred dollars. Plenty of torque for the hills around here.
I like it. I carry it up my 4 story walk up in NYC. The range is like 25 mile on full mode 4 throttle. First ride I had to pedal two miles home 10 blocks away I realized if i use Pedal Assist 4 and no throttle I got 15mph and relaxed enough to be able to carry the bike up the stairs when I got home.
Hey Zack! Great review seems like you had a fun time🤙🏽 if you get the chance to ride the RX again give mode 4 a try when its above the 75% battery mark, you should get a lot more torque out of it and you should be able to top out at 31/32 mph, dont know if you’d wanna ride it again but i feel like it’ll impress you a bit more with it’s speed if you do, i’d really like to hear what you think of its full speed🙏🏽
When people ask if it can hit 60, I'm pretty sure it's just because they want a motorcycle without needing a license or insurance. I'd be lying if I said I didn't see the appeal of just hoping on a device and going where ever at speed without needing to be certified. Personally, I'd feel like 30 to is already pushing it if you can get around wearing gear (I do agree with the view expressed in the video). I wouldn't hit too many jumps with this though, a few reviews I saw said people damaged their motors doing jumps. Like it feels sturdy, but it's not built for extended roughhousing, I guess.
I just got mine, it’s actually stuck on Mode 2 until they fix the software so the App will connect. But I’ll tell you with Mode 2 you can throttle or pedal with the 4 assist levels. And it is fun as hell pedaling, You take off like a superpower in Level 3 and 4, Get up to 20 Mph quick. Can’t wait til its fixed to hit 32 Mph in Mode 3
More and more of this sort of thing showing up in my neighborhood, mostly slow street riding for "exercise." Nobody wears any gear beyond the occasional bike helmet. I imagine most of these will be offered in garage sales in 2-3 years.
100 percent ,where do we get the electricity to charge all these cars e bikes scooters etc ,we are burning more coal in foreign countrys the way the gov do it is fly as a drug dealer using someone else's house .Once you Cotton on to this big climate change scam .u can see through it like the people in the 80,s sending aluminum cans in to recycling centres to cut down on emissions for melting ally
@@Crosshatch1212 Here in Texas where I live (not a very "Green" state" only about 20% of our electricity comes from coal. Even if you used West Virginia electricity (mostly coal) an electric vehicle will emit less CO2 than a similar size gas vehicle because electric motors use more than 90% of the energy sent to them. Gas motors use only about 1/4 of the energy in gasoline to move the car. That's why you don't have a gasoline powered air conditioner at home. It would cost 4 times as much to run.
FWIW on a regular pedal bike, 30 MPH is pretty common. When I was commuting 20 miles a day on a bike, my average speed was about 18 MPH, which put me at 30 MPH daily on downhills. I would NOT ride without gloves and a helmet but other than that it was poly (wicking) T shirts and baggy shorts (not a spandex fan). Yes I did my share of pavement kissing, and yeah there were times when I was riding post-crash dripping blood on the frame. I honestly was more concerned about having gloves than a helmet, I crashed a few times without them and spending a month with raw meat on the heel of your thumb and the fingers cut up is enough to make you wear gloves forever.
I work as a mechanic in a bicycle shop in Queensland, Australia. We sell eBikes that are way more advanced than this. They're extremely popular and a guy bought one the other day for over $12,000.00!!
I have a S2 and I love it. I talk about it alot on my youtube channel, but if I were to call anything a modern moped, it's the Onyx. If you haven't test-ridden one, it's pretty amazing. That said, it was too much for me, at least until I get used to riding at faster speeds.
Won't find me on a bicycle on the road. Seen too many ran over, mutilated, killed, and even beaten up by road rage drivers. Way safer riding a real motorcycle.
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Read Andy Greaser's review of the RX's sibling, the Super73 S1, here: rvz.la/39v3K7L
How much do you weigh?
@Hal K They are called mopeds because you do mo' pedaling than anything else. :-)
This style bicycle ("crate") is really more for style than function, so it's not really for commuting where you have to go any real distance, up hills or over obstacles. This makes it even less good as an even-heavier ebike. Crate ebikes are really to be used as leisure scooters (on flat ground).
There are much better bicycles and ebikes for commuting (or speed).
This is for fun - quick scoots around.
Unlimited mode will only go to 30mph when your battery is over 50%. You switched modes with low battery, should’ve been in unlimited mode from the beginning, especially since its less of a pedal machine and more of a motor moped ishh thing
Do a Ariel rider grizzly. Supers are super weak
As the owner of two e-bikes, I can say that there are lots of great e-bikes available now at more affordable prices.
I have two Rad bikes, and on a ride with my daughter (12) I had my motor at 1 and she had toggled hers to throttle. She pulls ahead and I called for her to slow down. She yells back she can't hear me over the sound of her motor and scoots off up the hill.
I own a Sur Ron X (same as Segway x260) The thing is a weapon on trails. It’s range is truly over 20 miles on hard trails and well over 50 miles for flat riding. 29/30mph mode or 49mph mode all bone stock. It can be easily uncorked as well.
@@zugmeister314 If that isn't the spirit of a motorcyclist I don't know what is
Ahh the backwards pedal diss. Awesome.
As a spandex boy, we aren’t annoyed. We just think you look lazy.
This video was a test to see if people will watch ANYTHING with Zach in it! I passed the test 🙂
Lol Zach + 2 wheels
Zach could literally change to being a Twitch streamer and not lose any fans.
Zack*
My first video was the dumb and dumber trip. I like this guy.
I usually do. :D
I can't believe I just watched a 40 minute bicycle review video and left entertained. Well done.
As a cyclist in Seattle for the last 22yrs, I can firmly say that many roads are terrifying. I feel so much safer on a motorcycle. I still bike, but I like to mostly stick to dedicated trails
Exactly my viewpoint as well. Too many hills, rain, darkness for me to ride this e-bike.
The major advantage of an e-bike here (WA state) is the ability to filter without ANY worry. I still filter on my motor scooter, but.... there's always a risk if you're on anything bigger than a bicycle
Seattle roads in general inspire a certain degree of terror, constantly under construction - full of angry motorists and pedestrians who just randomly walk across any time they feel like it.
3500? get out of here. I'd buy a actual motorcycle first. thats crazy.
If you factor in fuel and cost of maintenance it does start to make some sense.
@@james_chatman then if you factor in the lack of headlight, turn signals, and brake light it starts to make a lot less sense.
Until initial cost and charge times reach gas powered levels, electric won't reach mainstream acceptance.
If you factor in number of DUIs, and a court order I received last October, it starts to make sense.
If you live in the city where it costs $60-$100/month to pay for parking, it makes sense
When ebikes first became popular, a lot of my fellow cyclists swore to hate them. I'll just say that no cyclist that has actually ridden one feels that way. They're just a whole other new and awesome thing.
Agreed, they’re just fun
I’ve avoided trying an electric bike but my future city is all hills so I’m considering electric
The first time I rode my electric bike I immediately realized that safety gear beyond bicycle level was absolutely required exactly as you mention at 23:00. Great review, much appreciated.
Same here. Fortunately my dad's a motorcyclist and had an old summer jacket he could spare, because I shot my wad on on the bike and didn't budget for armor. I'll never get to freeway speed on an ebike but getting to 28mph before starting down a steep hill, maybe with a tailwind, speeds between 40 and 50 are quite attainable and might even sneak up on you.
FortNine video on these said same thing - e-bike is dangerous because people are indeed going 30mph on these, not wearing any safety gear, and the bike isn't providing you any safety either. Note he almost got blown off that bike trail into the drainage ditch.
Good argument for why if it’s an electric bicycle it should be assistance limited to 15 or 20mph.
Lol thought he was a goner with that breeze 4:24
Can we all agree Zack is the only person we would actually watch this from and not care that it's not a real MC.
I'd watch a video of Zach reviewing a Big Wheel 🤣
The left-front right-rear brake is a uS and Euro thing - in Australia/UK it is right-front left-rear, which is easier to adapt to from and to a moto
Definitely not the best vehicle, but this may be the best review ever.
hiland makes one for $1300
I have a motorcycle, my girlfriend recently bought a Buddy Bike (norwegian e-bike).... i gotta say it's amazing. Super practical, easy to use, no license, no need to put on a bunch of gear, lightweight, perfect for short trips.
$3500, meh.. Get your motorcycle license and buy a Honda Grom instead. 😎
I agree. My grom is slow but it goes faster than 30 😂
Or buy used and get almost anything. My tiger 800 was $4k, plenty of 250/300/500cc bikes around for under $3500 used if gas milage is a concern.
Edit* I will say if you lived somewhere like seattle, nyc, or any major high density area where parking is a problem and you never have far to go then an ebike would have advantages. Like being able to take it into your place at night, park on sidewalks without cops giving you grief, legally filtering forward at lights.
Or by a 4 year old Shadow with 1000 miles on it and have an actual motorcycle lmao
@@BloodPlusPwn Yep lots of good, inexpensive options for used bikes. 👌
The whole point of ebikes is to be able to go where a bicycle can and a motorcycle can't (legally anyway) but with a little juice to get your juices flowin'
I have a radrunner a compact cargo e bike ($1200 for the whiners) and it is fantastic. I live in Boston so perfect city for an ebike, but I haul my gear to surrounding towns, can load up with 2 weeks of groceries, and it has a rear seat so my GF and I explore together. There is something strange about having a vehicle that do 30-40 miles effortlessly, take it up to your apartment, charge it, and do it again. No gas, no smells, barely any maintenance - they're wonderful machines. And also a lot of fun to ride.
Great review as usual. Thanks for recommending safety the gear . People don’t realize how bad you can get hurt, I learned the hard way. I crash my Honda ct90 with a mattress that flew of a pickup truck, yes the mattress won. I broke my collarbone, cracked 9 ribs , shoulder plate and both pinkies and bruised my right lung, not fun. I was going about 40mph.
The great thing about ebikes is you can ride them where it would not be legal to ride a motorcycle. I have a Eunora Fat-AWD e-bike. It has both front and rear wheels with motors. Range if I'm not pedaling much is 20 mi or 30 mi with some pedaling. Cost was $1,600.
loving my S2 i'm grateful i got it at 2K during pre order prices. perfect bike for riding in new york city where traffic is always heavy but the bike lanes are always empty lol
Zero interest in the vehicle, but Zack is always entertaining to watch.
As someone who's into both ebikes and motorcycles it'd be interesting to see you test out one of the more mountain bike style e-bikes with a similar power rating to see if you enjoy that more since you'll actually be able to pedal more regularly.
Suggestion ??
#1 Get together with your buddy from OnTwoWheels series.
#2 Both of you try out the Sur-RonX/Segway260 ebike. On road adventures. Offroad adventures.
#3 Both of you guys try out ... A Huck Ebike & a Onyx Ebike. Cafe Racer frames. Both are 45mph ebikes.
#4 Try the Biktrix Juggernaut HD Duo ebike. Its a Long Range ebike. Said to be 100 to 200 miles.
As somebody who got into building and riding e bikes this year I gotta say I enjoyed this review. One thing to note, you had some issue pulling out of stops when running in Class 3 mode (pedaling required), this can be due to a setting (or two) that sets how much the pedal must be turned before the motor engages, and at what power level the motor will start engagement. On my builds I like 2-4 complete turns before the motor engages as these were origninally built as bicycles. On that machine I'd suggest turning that value down to 1. Anyway thanks for the review.
I have the base Z1. It's basically a 50lb bmx bike with a 500w electric motor. I use it for the 5-10 mile jaunts around town. The Z1 is too small for me at 5'10" and 190lbs. I'm limited to 10-15 mile range and 20 mph. I wish I sprung for the S2 or R series.
Lol stop signs? Zach, everyone knows cyclists never stop at stop signs...
Can confirm
With electric I will. I'm also more likely to take a lane if I can keep with traffic.
Neither do drivers so what's the problem here? lol.
@@zugmeister314 Can confirm this as well. Having the electric to get you back up to speed makes the complete stop much less painful. E-bike in this video kinda sucked btw. They should have gearing so you can help the motor since you are sitting there anyways. Extends the range. A simple gearset would have seen Zack make it to the office with charge to spare. Human/electric hybrid. I miss my homebuilt road bike based e-bike. Most fun I've had commuting in my life.
@@kleinbottled79 I got the feeling they were going for an electric scooter / motorcycle but wanted to call it a bicycle so they slapped on some pedals. Anyone who rides any distance knows the seat height needs to be high enough you get a full leg extension 'cause that's where your strength is. The way his knees were coming up looked like BMX bike or something, and with one gear (?!?!) you'll never get any real human power out of that. Did you notice that at "level 3" he had to pedal to make it go, while the lower output worked on the throttle? Looks like they're making a scooter look like it's a bicycle.
BTW I love my Rad wagon!
"In a big city, an electric bicycle makes sense, but not here" Zach commented while biking in the second biggest city in America.
Long Beach is the second biggest city in America?
I realize he said LA in the video, but he’s really more in LB IMO.
@@Vic6 A distinction important when discussed among SoCal locals, but for all intents and purposes on RUclips, one could be safe to include LB as part of LA.
Let's go Dodgers.
He may have meant "dense city".
@@lovelessissimo true
It's almost like the pedals are just there to keep it in the legal clarification of "bicycle". Best motovlog I've seen in a while. Too cool.
I own Michael Blast ebike that is basically a moped and super soco moped that is bridge between 50cc and 125cc I love both of them Soco is receiving scrambler treatment now. Coz 120Nm need to be used properly
Many quotables in this one: “Jeez Louis and Cheese!”; “Son of a Yellow Light!”; “Christ on a Crutch!”; “He’s a tired little turkey.”; Well done Zach!
And getting distracted by fingerless gloves
Zack should do stand up! Lol
Offensive comments about the saviour of the world aren't needed in any moto / bike review. You lost one viewer, Zach.
"burning dinosaurs"
@@Nightboat Imagine being that easily offended.
Have followed Zack for a while, never owned a motorcycle. So yeah, have lived vicariously through his reviews. Have actually logged over 16K mile commuting by bicycle. Appreciate the honest review. And just from the camera view... could tell I would agree.. needs more adjustability. But moving at the speeds he achieved would be fun but 80 lbs would have me concerned. But comfort still would be my concern. Range... not bad depending on recharge. My route, made longer for safety, was 9 miles one way. And have looked at the Zero motorcycle. Thanks Zack.
It might be a tad out of the scope of the show, but could we see a sur-ron review by any chance?
We Surron owners look at this bike for same price and just laugh.
I really wish there was a more straightforward way to register a Sur Ron for moped use in the US. Some states, it's fairly easy, but it's not consistent, and once you delimit it, you can't legally register it anywhere. Feels like our laws need to catch up.
On downhills I get my bicycle up to 30mph. It's an intimidating speed without gear IMO, so I'd agree with Zach. If you can regularly get it to 30 mph, you want gear.
Definitely.
Yeah these are much more stable than a typical bicycle though. Its got motorcycle suspension and brakes. Honestly when your doing 30 on these it just feels like a comfortable cruising speed.
@@pauld.b7129 Until you come off at 30...
30mph is not an uncommon speed for a road cyclist at all. That speed is not necessarily appropriate for e-assistance though, because it’s kinda too fast for like bike paths.
@@cjeam9199 But I think it's the difference between getting up to that speed because you cycle a lot so you know how the bike will react etc, and not being very proficient on a bicycle but having the electric motor instantly get you up to a speed you're probably not ready for, without any protective gear... Coming off at 30 I can't imagine is much fun! :)
Zack I just wanna say thanks, you're videos make a very stressful life a little less stressful. Cheers for your great work and all the videos.
Hey Zack, as an unashamed spandex road racer, I gotta add a couple of things:
1. That's not a derailleur, that's a chain tensioner. Common on badly-made (and not so badly made) single speed bikes. A derailleur derails the chain when changing gears on a normal hub, that thing is there to keep the chain on and prevent you going over the bars in case it decides to pop off at some point.
2. Seat height! That thing is way too low for you. You should not be able to flat foot a bicycle. You should have an *almost* straight leg, with a small bend in it, at furthest extension. Not adjusting the seat height, especially as a tall 6'2" guy like you, is a bit like test driving a car and not adjusting the seat and then complaining that the ergonomics are all cramped!
Great review, love your stuff man, huge fan as always!
I own a bicycle with a yamaha engine, i love it! Only downside is that it takes longer to get somewhere then on my Fz1n
Whoever decided that Revzilla should be a serious content creator needs a medal. This is all such fun content!
What would we expect from the best gear store online?
I still remember the odd feeling of trying electric assisted bicycle for first time. It felt surreal to get going and after second or two when motor turned on it kinda felt like someone was pushing me hard from the back.
I started with bicycles when I was 14, riding road bikes and racing in my teens. I moved up to ebikes in 2017 and went car free. I freaking love bikes and ebikes, but I got a 50cc 2-stroke and there isn't even a comparison. The scooter is so much more practical, fun, inexespesive. I use the ebike for getting groceries because it is great at towing a little bike trailer, but for the 2k an ebike costs a used scooter wins hands down.
Batteries need to hold twice the energy per unit of weight and cost half as much before full sized electric scooters even make sense, for bigger bikes the battery requirements for them to directly compete is going to be even harder to reach.
For the price of a super73 RX you could get a used PCX, and that scooter could be used to cross the conrey if you are adventurous enough, the ebike if flogged at 28mph can't even make it across town.
Holy shit. You literally drove right by my house. I have to go up that massive hill every day on my Monday motorbike gateway ebike. Wish I knew lol I totally would have joined you for a little 2 person ebike group ride!
I’ll agree 100% with you getting deceivingly comfortable on the bike. I’ve had a couple humbling moments in only a month of owning an S2. Knock on wood nothing bad has happened. Gotta keep your ego in check and respect the road.
Ah, the "Do they see me?" visibility of a bicycle and the speed of a kinda slow moped, and cultural incentives to not wear protective gear or, ya' know, learn how to properly ride. What could go wrong?
Sounds exactly like the e bike/scooter people around my town. Lane position? Never heard of it
Super 73 are way faster than mopeds. On a flat they can easily do 40-45 mph.
@@David_Creyke more like km/h not mph
I almost bought this and then was like ill be mad that I can't ride my 40mph bicycle anywhere . So I spent a cheaper dollar amount on an r3 and it was the best decision ever.
Not to mention super 73 only has ONE manufacturer and it can take weeks to months to get the bike to come in and even parts and getting work done on them are hard unless you're located in Cali or near that one shop in NYC.
I was very surprised by how much this video entertained me.
Having one of these is about fun. Not speed. All about living a simple commuter life. Minimalistic travel. You see the world differently on a bike (or ebike). Life is slower and you notice things you never noticed before. Its a good change.
This will go down as a RUclips classic
The resale value on any e-bike or e-motorcycle must be horrendous as the technology improves so rapidly every year that it makes previous models rapidly obsolete. Planned obsolescence? You can never catch up & you never get back what you put into them.
To be fair, I really enjoyed that review. I've got an e-bike which here in the UK is restricted to 15.5 mph and no throttle allowed. Use it for my 6 mile inner city commute and it's the perfect tool for the job! It's just as quick to commute on as my Z900,
oi ‘ave you got a loicense for that?
What is the water integrity like on these e-bikes? If you get caught in the rain will it short circuit? How about battery life 5-10 years down the road? Are there features on this model that can be upgraded as it ages?
had my rx in the rain for about 20-30 minutes once and it didn't seem to be affected. i've also ridden in in the rain multiple times and it still zips around fine
I did see one continous mistake in this video. You followed the rules, stopping for stop signs and red lights. A real cyclist wouldn't be caught dead doing that.
ehh, I follow Idaho stop rules. So if there aren't any cars, I will treat stop signs as yield signs, and stop lights as stop signs. if there are cars, I will treat them normally.
Try an ONYX RCR top speed 50 to60 mph. Weight 150 lbs and handmade in LA or their SF factory. The torque is amazing. Range at 25 to 35 mph approx 40 miles. Range at 35 to 45 approx 30 imo. A friend of mine who owns 2 Harleys rode it and was shocked with the pulling power. Starting MSRP is $4199 before any discount. Typically you can find a link or dicount code for up to $200 off.
$3500 for that POS? How much is the battery when it inevitably gets knackered? How long before proper cyclists realise they are just as dangerous as having a proper motorcycle speed along the cycle lane?
I have few accidents on ebikes in speed about 25-30 miles and I have to say you right, wear gloves and some strong clothes, your skin will thanks you, there is nothing like " I ride safely and no have accidents" bad luck just waiting to meet you in moments you do not want meet anybody. Yesterday wind blows under my wheels bicycle that's was parked to the street lantern on the bike lane side, it was just half second movie and lights goes down. 30 miles sped can kill you easy. Im always lucky and never broken my bones, probably according to them density but... I loose a lot of my skin and my body changed color like rotten apple. First thing this morning I go shopping online for bike clothing. Great review bro.
How long did it take to do this commute? I'm actually impressed you did the hole thing 👏
All that space between the battery and pedals needs some sort of storage compartment. I ride a step thru scooter and I can put my grocery basket on the floorboard without any problems. E bikes should be a step thru with a floorboard if that is going to be your main transportation.
so much hate for the super 73 lmao i love it. nothing like riding something that ruins people days 🥳
I myself ride a ViVi electric mountain bike to work, and it's basically like somebody converted a mountain bike to an electric bike by slapping on a motor hub in the rear tire and chopped it in half to make it a folding bike. It is lighter than this one but I have quite a few hills that makes it difficult to ride at top speed. It doesn't have a dash either, but it's a lot of fun to ride.
Overpriced. I built my eBike that reaches 37mph, 20mile range at 30mph constant speed, weighs in at 75lbs. Uses a heavier LiFePO4 battery instead of standard Li-Ion. Which is way safer because LiFePO4 doesnt explode and burn when damaged or destroyed. Also more vibration resistant.
Cost me around 1500$ total, including all the tools I needed to build it.
Build your own, and it'll be faster cheaper, and more fun.
@UCBNkveJBulVQ-SVbG1bLcuA
I'd like to build an electric bike. I want to convert my Norco Pinicale trail bike to an electric.
Can you suggest what parts I should buy?
@Rick Kenn Theres plenty of kits you can buy from Amazon and Ebay. Get a rear wheel kit that can fit inside of a steel frame bicycle.
Get a lithium battery pack from a reputable vendor. LiFePO4 is the longest lasting and safest. they are bigger and heavier.
Theres lots of videos showing how to install such kits. You'll learn a long the way too.
Make sure you get a GrinTech V4 Torque Arm too. You will destroy a bike frame if you dont use one. On reddit there is an Ebike section you can ask questions about. /r/ebikes.
Have fun building one.
If you go to a regular bike style and not the Moped motorcycle looking e bikes .. Most have good pedal ability. 7-9 gears and weigh a bit less.. I can pedal my fat tire 26x4 e bike 10-12 mph about 5 miles no problem without battery. Weighs 74 lbs with rack and fenders.. My e bike is faster than a super 73 but 25 miles throttle only at over 34 mph and 75 miles going about 12 mph pedaling to help in low assisted mode.
When a 'daily Rider' video is 40 minuets long...
My S1 jumps like an electrocuted jackrabbit from a stop. All I have to do is touch the pedal and it's off, and I've gotten it up to 40mph on flat ground.
Neither fish nor fowl. I'd rather an awesome bicycle and change or a teeny tiny 2nd hand honda
The most honest e-bike review I’ve ever seen. Thank you.
RevZilla: "It's a Moped"
Ebike riders: ***cringe***
Jesus Murphy no, don't give the DMV an excuse to get into our anus yet again
Had the same issue with my motorized bicycle I built. Everything was fine until my taillight went out at night and a cop decided today was the day to hassle Ella. I think he eventually gave in and said just get the light fixed. I was living in a fairly rural area, and wasn't causing anyone any bother.
they're going to have to crack down at some point lol there's e-bikes on the market that do over 60 now
I dare you to throw some benelli's in on the daily ride. How about starting off with the TNT 135?.
Zach: "This makes me feel like I'm actually using a motorized vehicle."
Also Zach: *(Using a motorized vehicle in the video.)* 🔥💯
So I have a super 73 S2 and will say in Chicago (and when we don’t have 2 feet of snow on the ground like we currently do) it’s defiantly the fastest way through the city, mostly because of bicycle laws vs motorcycle laws in IL, but I defiantly love it and park it in my apartment. I have added mirrors. I will say the seat is still terrible and the fitment can leave something to be desired.... and my biggest pet peeve is that if the headlight is off then you don’t have brake lights, and that if you turn off the bike to run in someplace the pedal assist will reset to zero each time you turn it on. But I bought it and did postmates on it over the summer and it paid for itself pretty quickly!
Nothing like riding in dense traffic without gear, equipment (mirrors?), or power.
The brakes being switched varies by country or rather which side of the road you drive on.
The assumption that the most dangerous turn you can make is the one across the traffic, i.e. On right hand drive that would be the left turn - So when you move into the middle of the road and indicate with your left hand that leaves your right hand to brake, and so the put the “safest” brake on that side. The idea is that the front brake while more efficient is potentially more dangerous as you could easily lock up the front wheel and go over the handle bars.
Way to take one for the team, Zack! Loved this review.
I always swap my brake levers on my pedal bikes. I just electrified a Kickbike to use with my dog and it's pretty awesome.
Seems like a perfect Sat morning video to watch from my basement bike trainer
Sooo, from a bicycling perspective, anything that involved having to actually pedal looked downright miserable
Love your upbeat energy n comments Zach.
I’ve got the Giant Quick e plus.
No suspension but nice ergos n Yamaha motor. A Really fun ride.
28:02 for our favorite part.
Man that thing is crap compared to my e-bike with "bafang"-middle-motor in it!
I can easily drive up to 32mph and drive with min 5-8mph pretty much every paved hill.
And thanks to my 8 gears at the backwheel I can start easily at every stop and even on hills np.
Try and get your hands on one of these to test, way better!
Too small wheels for off-roading, so full susp just adds weight. My two cents.
Yeah, and the crank arm is too short, and the rake is too steep. This was made by people more interested in money than biking.
@@relate97
Works.... is not the same as corectly made or even good.....
If works is fine you should walk barefoot at all times.... or why move at all...
@@relate97
If new is the requirement instead of worth your money... you are jsut wrong
Any old used for next to nothing moped with a tire change and a jug of gas... to name just one
Or just steal any kids bike and get thighs of steel ;)
puts on shoes...
And almost limitless others with better price to usefulness/fun ratio
@@relate97 Almost any 125?
@@relate97 nah, you wouldn't. Have you ever been somewhere not flat?
It's quiet, economical and fun. Exploring new places on e-bikes and having access to bike paths and quiet neiborhoods without upsetting anyone has been priceless. Getting around small downtown areas, restaurants etc where there is no available parking is also a big plus. I own motorcycles and there is no way they replace these e-bikes. These things are pure fun and don't infringe on other peoples enjoyment like stinky loud gas scooters. If you are in a hurry to go nowhere e-bikes aren't for you.
I found it funny that you sounded like a sailboater. I'm not ragging on ya, simply an observation. ;)
@ 4:28..... a brown trouser moment..
Watched a lot of Zack's videos and I think that's the closest I've seen him get to a crash
Yeah. Putting the bike path that close to the wash seems dangerous.
I don’t care about e-bikes at all but still found this very entertaining! Fav line “ I just got distracted by the sirens in the fingerless gloves“
This thing seems primitive compared to some ebikes selling for $2000 less. It’s not a motorcycle, it’s not a bicycle, it appears to be a poorly designed ebike. Great video though, as always.
Yea it seems designed like a motcycle, but is a bike. The frame geometry doesn't seem great for pedal power (no adjustable seat) and the battery on top is bad for weight distribution and is in that location for purely looks. My knees hurt just imagining have to pedal
What can you recommend for those bikes. I find that the bulk of the Super 73 defeats the purpose of a light bike with an electric motor
ever seen '70s mopeds? this fits that niche pretty cleanly (though one might argue those died off for similar reasons, plus the unreliability of vintage two-strokes)
I'd like to see more videos about electric bikes. There are dozens of products on the market with a wide range of capabilities but I haven't seen much in the way of independent reviews. PS I'm a motorcycle rider with 50 years of experience but I can see the possible utility of ebikes and would like to know more.
Thanks for this and I am lucky enough to own a Super73 S and an Indian FTR 🔥🔥... love both ! And as you said if you want to go fast get a motorbike and get your license 😉. Greetings from Paris area / France
We should also note for those outside France that anything 2 wheeled and motorised that can go over 25km/h is required to be registered, plated and we have to have the scooter license... From France, between Cannes and St Tropez.
I really do miss that cheap/expensive/dorky/cool graph. Bring it back, will you, RevZilla? But thanks for another excellent video!
Hope you got extra danger pay for this one!
8:20 - 8:30 shows how dangerous these are. Like Zack said - playing tag with trucks. Terrible idea to commute with these. $3500 forget it lol.
Those are just non bike friendly roads.
Here in Belgium and Netherlands we have bike paths pretty much everywhere so bikers don't have to put them in dangerous situations like that.
Tons of these things here in SF. One of my buddies bought one and he loves it. Personally, I'm looking to buy a Arielrider Grizzly. Same style, fully suspended but with two wheel drive, two batteries, 7-speed derailleur, and 52V. Best of all, its cheaper by several hundred dollars. Plenty of torque for the hills around here.
Does he have any review of the grizzly ,but tons of hills in san Francisco.
"This is the only good ebike, and maybe one other one I guess."
- This Guy, who obviously knows what he is talking about
Oh yeah. Awesome if yiu do t mind $4100 SHIPPED. ITS OVER $7000 in Australia. I got a juiced hyper scrambler 2 $2600 SHIPPED 52v 19.2ah 70miles
After Seeing the thumbnail:
_Yea Boi_
I like it. I carry it up my 4 story walk up in NYC. The range is like 25 mile on full mode 4 throttle. First ride I had to pedal two miles home 10 blocks away I realized if i use Pedal Assist 4 and no throttle I got 15mph and relaxed enough to be able to carry the bike up the stairs when I got home.
Hey Zack! Great review seems like you had a fun time🤙🏽 if you get the chance to ride the RX again give mode 4 a try when its above the 75% battery mark, you should get a lot more torque out of it and you should be able to top out at 31/32 mph, dont know if you’d wanna ride it again but i feel like it’ll impress you a bit more with it’s speed if you do, i’d really like to hear what you think of its full speed🙏🏽
He's a motorcyclist on a motorcycling channel. He doesn't car about the speed, he is just reviewing alternatives.
When people ask if it can hit 60, I'm pretty sure it's just because they want a motorcycle without needing a license or insurance. I'd be lying if I said I didn't see the appeal of just hoping on a device and going where ever at speed without needing to be certified. Personally, I'd feel like 30 to is already pushing it if you can get around wearing gear (I do agree with the view expressed in the video). I wouldn't hit too many jumps with this though, a few reviews I saw said people damaged their motors doing jumps. Like it feels sturdy, but it's not built for extended roughhousing, I guess.
There’s companies that make really similar products for less than half.
Such as?
Why would you use anything but full power (mode 4)?
I just got mine, it’s actually stuck on Mode 2 until they fix the software so the App will connect. But I’ll tell you with Mode 2 you can throttle or pedal with the 4 assist levels. And it is fun as hell pedaling, You take off like a superpower in Level 3 and 4, Get up to 20 Mph quick. Can’t wait til its fixed to hit 32 Mph in Mode 3
More and more of this sort of thing showing up in my neighborhood, mostly slow street riding for "exercise." Nobody wears any gear beyond the occasional bike helmet. I imagine most of these will be offered in garage sales in 2-3 years.
100 percent ,where do we get the electricity to charge all these cars e bikes scooters etc ,we are burning more coal in foreign countrys the way the gov do it is fly as a drug dealer using someone else's house .Once you Cotton on to this big climate change scam .u can see through it like the people in the 80,s sending aluminum cans in to recycling centres to cut down on emissions for melting ally
@@Crosshatch1212 You are late, wrong, and probably shouldn't post when you've been drinking.
@@Miata822 ill send you the link ,gov website they're hiding the truth under YOURE nose n I dnt drink teapot,
@@Crosshatch1212 Here in Texas where I live (not a very "Green" state" only about 20% of our electricity comes from coal. Even if you used West Virginia electricity (mostly coal) an electric vehicle will emit less CO2 than a similar size gas vehicle because electric motors use more than 90% of the energy sent to them. Gas motors use only about 1/4 of the energy in gasoline to move the car. That's why you don't have a gasoline powered air conditioner at home. It would cost 4 times as much to run.
FWIW on a regular pedal bike, 30 MPH is pretty common. When I was commuting 20 miles a day on a bike, my average speed was about 18 MPH, which put me at 30 MPH daily on downhills. I would NOT ride without gloves and a helmet but other than that it was poly (wicking) T shirts and baggy shorts (not a spandex fan). Yes I did my share of pavement kissing, and yeah there were times when I was riding post-crash dripping blood on the frame. I honestly was more concerned about having gloves than a helmet, I crashed a few times without them and spending a month with raw meat on the heel of your thumb and the fingers cut up is enough to make you wear gloves forever.
Thanks for mentioning the purpose of the derailleur, it was really confusing me why it was there. Makes sense though.
I work as a mechanic in a bicycle shop in Queensland, Australia. We sell eBikes that are way more advanced than this. They're extremely popular and a guy bought one the other day for over $12,000.00!!
I have a S2 and I love it. I talk about it alot on my youtube channel, but if I were to call anything a modern moped, it's the Onyx. If you haven't test-ridden one, it's pretty amazing. That said, it was too much for me, at least until I get used to riding at faster speeds.
Love my S2. It’s a great bike and fun to ride as a bike or just throttle
I have an S2 I got last summer. Best purchase I’ve made in years.. so much fun
Won't find me on a bicycle on the road. Seen too many ran over, mutilated, killed, and even beaten up by road rage drivers. Way safer riding a real motorcycle.
I appreciate that this video shows the challenges bicycle use has.
These have had some really good sales among people who have a DUI lol
Until they get caught riding it while drunk lol.
@@johnjacob688 lol really, it's $10k when you're caught. The $3500 each time after that is no biggie